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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 00:47:12
June 10 2012 00:44 GMT
#81
you're so mad it's almost cute

Kids are all worn out from the bbq, they passed out watching Tangled with the wife
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diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
June 10 2012 00:51 GMT
#82
On June 10 2012 09:36 S_SienZ wrote:
Imo ironically this fix which was supposed to deal with botters has either brought gold sellers more business or caused more non-botters to quit the game. Bots don't give a fuck that they're getting less gold, botters still earn more botting than not.


People really quit the game because they're not "forced" to smash pots or click on the same chest over and over to stay competitive with people making money in the most efficient/boring way possible? If you take out boring, efficient methods of getting gold you deflate the economy and make it so actually playing the game gives you more purchasing power.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
June 10 2012 00:54 GMT
#83
I bet more people quit the game due to blizzard waiting so long to fix this widely known exploits, now that they are at a point where it would take them many months to even years to even break even with what botters made in the first 3 weeks.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 10 2012 01:00 GMT
#84
On June 10 2012 09:54 NotSorry wrote:
I bet more people quit the game due to blizzard waiting so long to fix this widely known exploits, now that they are at a point where it would take them many months to even years to even break even with what botters made in the first 3 weeks.

This, IMO.

It's a shame that Blizz put themselves in an awkward position where they're really unable to reverse the damage that botters have done. We're only seeing the tip of the iceberg now--the brunt of it's going to come out with the RMAH.
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JeffBitches
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada26 Posts
June 10 2012 01:00 GMT
#85
Well as for the people having "quit" the game...

As a barb geared just short of Act 2, this hotfix has made me quit until 1.0.3. Warden/butcher runs give me dismal gold and really god awful rares; I can kinda progress in Act 2 by skipping all champion packs (yay?); I don't particularly want to 'play' the AH (don't really have the starting money for it either). Farming pots, although boring (less if I watched SC2 streams simultaneously), was a good way to get money for upgrades.

Maybe there's an other solution I haven't thought of, and if so, I'd would love to hear it.
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nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 01:05:46
June 10 2012 01:02 GMT
#86
no wonder I got like a total of 500 gold from all the pots i smashed leading up to skeleton king .

What i think would be fair to everyone is just to reset everyone to 0 items, 0 gold after making every exploit fix possible. Right now those who managed to exploit all the earlier easy runs are so way ahead of the other players.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 01:03:47
June 10 2012 01:03 GMT
#87
On June 10 2012 10:00 JeffBitches wrote:
Well as for the people having "quit" the game...

As a barb geared just short of Act 2, this hotfix has made me quit until 1.0.3. Warden/butcher runs give me dismal gold and really god awful rares; I can kinda progress in Act 2 by skipping all champion packs (yay?); I don't particularly want to 'play' the AH (don't really have the starting money for it either). Farming pots, although boring (less if I watched SC2 streams simultaneously), was a good way to get money for upgrades.

Maybe there's an other solution I haven't thought of, and if so, I'd would love to hear it.

You're a Barb. Iskatu hasn't been nerfed yet, so you can still average between 500k-1mil an hour from Iskatu runs, depending on your luck.

And yes, Iskatu farming is possible on a Barb with A1/A2-level gear.
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itsben
Profile Joined July 2010
435 Posts
June 10 2012 01:05 GMT
#88
On June 10 2012 09:54 NotSorry wrote:
I bet more people quit the game due to blizzard waiting so long to fix this widely known exploits, now that they are at a point where it would take them many months to even years to even break even with what botters made in the first 3 weeks.


I'll second this. Botters and exploiters pretty much ruined the game and market. At this point, i think blizzard should wipe everything ,before money auction house comes out, as soon as they remove all exploits even though I'm sure many people will be pissed. Either that or include a ladder system like d2 where it gets reset at time intervals.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
June 10 2012 01:05 GMT
#89
Just really makes you think how much of this could have all been avoided with just having a proper beta rather than the arrogant media demo they did
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
sushiko
Profile Joined June 2010
197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 01:07:02
June 10 2012 01:06 GMT
#90
On June 10 2012 09:54 NotSorry wrote:
I bet more people quit the game due to blizzard waiting so long to fix this widely known exploits, now that they are at a point where it would take them many months to even years to even break even with what botters made in the first 3 weeks.


Only hope is for server wipes on SC accounts. I've heard that Blizzard did wipe servers before in diablo 2, though I don't remember it and can't seem to find any information about that. In any case, the RMAH date would seem like a logical point to perform such a wipe, effectively removing anyone gaining an unfair advantage via bots/hacks. And to be honest, I wouldn't mind replaying this game because that's what this game is about anyways. Any gold/items I found sucked anyways and used AH gear anyways.

ahah itsben beat me to it
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 10 2012 01:06 GMT
#91
On June 10 2012 10:05 itsben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 09:54 NotSorry wrote:
I bet more people quit the game due to blizzard waiting so long to fix this widely known exploits, now that they are at a point where it would take them many months to even years to even break even with what botters made in the first 3 weeks.


I'll second this. Botters and exploiters pretty much ruined the game and market. At this point, i think blizzard should wipe everything ,before money auction house comes out, as soon as they remove all exploits even though I'm sure many people will be pissed. Either that or include a ladder system like d2 where it gets reset at time intervals.

In fairness, even if they do include a Ladder, it would have to be after they clear up some more of the abusable stuff. There's still stuff that people are farming that they haven't nerfed yet.
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
June 10 2012 01:08 GMT
#92
There are still quite a few highly abusable spots right now that need to be fixed as well before something as big as a ladder season wipe
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 01:10:28
June 10 2012 01:09 GMT
#93
I don't care about gold farming, I just want to be able to get good loots when I work my ass off to kill elites and bosses. Right now I just get garbage or 200K items when I need 5-10millions items. Am I really supposed to play the whole day doing siegebreaker to get 1 or 2 decent rares ? Wtf...

Oh yeah GW2 BWE, whatever.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 10 2012 01:13 GMT
#94
take this, fucking abusers. other ppl dont abuse every glitch they discover and kill elites and bosses the whole time, slowly crawling their way up... however, thats probably about 20% of the ppl?

thank god there is hardcore.
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 01:16:30
June 10 2012 01:16 GMT
#95
On June 10 2012 10:13 KalWarkov wrote:
take this, fucking abusers. other ppl dont abuse every glitch they discover and kill elites and bosses the whole time, slowly crawling their way up... however, thats probably about 20% of the ppl?

thank god there is hardcore.

You realize as a % of a whole, HC has even more abusers than SC
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 01:22:00
June 10 2012 01:21 GMT
#96
Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way but since the majority of players don't use bots, wouldn't that keep prices low anyway despite there being tons of gold floating around? Botters will buy up the top ends items with super inflated prices, and even for that stuff I'd imagine its a pretty limited market of botters that can afford it, and eventually people will see no one can afford it and prices will lower after a while. For the mid to high end stuff prices should be fine.

Obviously someone who knows more about this sort of thing feel free to tell me why I'm wrong. For now I'm not too worried about the economy in this game.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
June 10 2012 01:23 GMT
#97
If you watched that clip I just posted in the diablo 3 general discussion. You'd know the most hardcore botter won't actually get effected by these fix. So a wipe certainly not help either. 60 million gold per hour from 100 accounts, it's just crazy man.
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Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
June 10 2012 01:24 GMT
#98
There's no reason to hate on abusers when Blizzard's at fault for releasing a game full of exploits. The "abusers" didn't do anything against the rules of the game and you can't expect people to turn down an efficient way to play based on some stupidly conceived "right" methods.

As other people have suggested, given the damage botting and exploits have caused, it would be best to reset the whole mess after all the fixes have been ironed out, like they should have been in beta. But of course Blizzard wouldn't do that - owning up to your own incompetence is bad for PR, and they don't want to put up with the massive outcry that comes with deleting everybody's characters.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 10 2012 01:59 GMT
#99
On June 10 2012 10:16 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 10:13 KalWarkov wrote:
take this, fucking abusers. other ppl dont abuse every glitch they discover and kill elites and bosses the whole time, slowly crawling their way up... however, thats probably about 20% of the ppl?

thank god there is hardcore.

You realize as a % of a whole, HC has even more abusers than SC


i highly doubt this. especially because there is no real money AH planned for it.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 10 2012 02:00 GMT
#100
On June 10 2012 10:24 Savant wrote:
There's no reason to hate on abusers when Blizzard's at fault for releasing a game full of exploits. The "abusers" didn't do anything against the rules of the game and you can't expect people to turn down an efficient way to play based on some stupidly conceived "right" methods.

As other people have suggested, given the damage botting and exploits have caused, it would be best to reset the whole mess after all the fixes have been ironed out, like they should have been in beta. But of course Blizzard wouldn't do that - owning up to your own incompetence is bad for PR, and they don't want to put up with the massive outcry that comes with deleting everybody's characters.



there are ppl who are brave enough not to exploit those bugs. in my eyes, those guys are just abusive fuckers who destroy my enjoyment. rly hope blizzard fixes more and more exploits and wiped the ladder after that.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
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