• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:55
CET 10:55
KST 18:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13
StarCraft 2
General
Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win SC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband Information Request Regarding Chinese Ladder
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest RSL Revival: Season 3 Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays Which season is the best in ASL? [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion FlaSh's Valkyrie Copium
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread The Perfect Game Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1103 users

The: What is my item worth? - Page 3

Forum Index > Diablo 3
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 333 334 335 Next
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 25 2012 15:02 GMT
#41
On May 25 2012 23:55 Kenpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
This would only be good for tanks probably, and even as a barb tank you'd probably want that IAS on it, IAS = more life on hits. I don't play barb, but I asume it works that way ?


Are there any tank builds ? Can you give me an estimate ? Dunno what to even search for. What are the 3 most important stats, so I could at least look up other rings in the ah.
If I search for 80str 60vit 20phy dam red, I only find a handful very expensive rings (500k+).


This video has good advice for gearing a barb for inferno, it seems a high + life on hit weapon is also a major plus:

+ Show Spoiler +

Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 25 2012 15:05 GMT
#42
On May 26 2012 00:00 Kolean.Tellan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 23:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On May 25 2012 23:50 Kolean.Tellan wrote:
just found a legandary what do you guys think???

http://imgur.com/6na5y


Get rid of it fast. Only worth something because it's legendary.

instant- ~600k
market- ~750k
squeeze- ~900k

r you sure i saw slightly lesser rings without a socket between 2 and 5 million.
this one has a socket 900k seems really low no?


We're looking at different auction houses. I'm on US.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Gijian
Profile Joined February 2011
United States273 Posts
May 25 2012 15:06 GMT
#43
On May 25 2012 15:15 xrayEU wrote:
I picked up Natalya´s Gaze yesterday and i beleive that the stats aren't that bad so i think i could get a good amount for it.
What's your thoughts on this item?
On EU btw...

[image loading]


Umm..am I seeing this right. "Increase discipline regeneration by 0 per second."?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 25 2012 15:14 GMT
#44
On May 26 2012 00:06 Gijian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 15:15 xrayEU wrote:
I picked up Natalya´s Gaze yesterday and i beleive that the stats aren't that bad so i think i could get a good amount for it.
What's your thoughts on this item?
On EU btw...

http://i.imgur.com/QllvJ.jpg


Umm..am I seeing this right. "Increase discipline regeneration by 0 per second."?


The regeneration is probably <1 and it didn't round up. That appears to be a unique benefit though so there's no way to compare it to anything else.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
AbusiveElbow
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5 Posts
May 25 2012 15:30 GMT
#45
Last night found a 1030 DPS 1 Hander for a barb and a 1200 25% IAS 2H. What are these worth?
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 25 2012 15:33 GMT
#46
On May 26 2012 00:30 AbusiveElbow wrote:
Last night found a 1030 DPS 1 Hander for a barb and a 1200 25% IAS 2H. What are these worth?

need full stats and server to be sure
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
TLChronos
Profile Joined September 2010
10 Posts
May 25 2012 15:57 GMT
#47
[image loading]

For Wizard it's really good, price?

Anyone wants to buy it?
Mammel
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 16:11:04
May 25 2012 16:08 GMT
#48
On May 26 2012 00:57 TLChronos wrote:
[image loading]

For Wizard it's really good, price?

Anyone wants to buy it?

Good stats, shit dps. Something like 2m I'd say.
Sell it fast, 900-1.1k dps weapon prices have dropped like 1000% in few days, and don't think they're done yet.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 25 2012 16:23 GMT
#49
[image loading]

Goddam int / dex. How much would this be? A few hundred thousand? A million?
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
May 25 2012 16:36 GMT
#50
yo. found an exalted phantom bow plan a few days ago and found out today that its usually traded for several 100k. im thinking about keeping and trying my luck with the artisan myself but so far the hole artisan thing has been nothing but a dissapointment to me so im not sure...what would you say?
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 18:09:18
May 25 2012 18:08 GMT
#51
[image loading]

Tell me what you think ? :p
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
shoop
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom228 Posts
May 25 2012 18:23 GMT
#52
Sorry to be off-topic with theorycraft, but I just have to reply.

On May 25 2012 23:44 Ramanujan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 22:10 shoop wrote:
On May 25 2012 21:29 Ramanujan wrote:
No, it wouldn't. I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but THERE IS NO DIMINISHING RETURN in armor or resistance.

Dota players know this.

Actually, if my source is correct, the damage reduction multiplier from armor is

Physical damage reduction = Armor / (50 × Monster Level + Armor).

This is a diminishing returns formula if I've ever seen one. What are you the fuck talking about? (Not to mention the stuff about balancing physical dmg reduction against resists, which is also valid of course).

Then you haven't seen much. The formula is correct, but in no way does it mean that armor has diminishing returns.

But yes, because the way damage reductions are added, 1-(1-x1)(1-x2)(1-x3)...(1-xn), you have to balance your armor and resistances. But I wouldn't say you automatically have higher armor just because the numbers are bigger, because 10 armor is the same as 1 resistance. One Int gives the same protection as one Str.


Diminishing returns means that going from 200 to 201 armor would not be as helpful as going from 100 to 101 armor. Let's see if this the case.

Suppose you're hit for 100 damage and your armor is your only defense. For simplicity let's say monster level is 2. Then according to the formula,

armor ; absorbed damage
100 ; 100*(100/200) = 50
101 ; 100*(101/201) = 50.249
200 ; 100*(200/300) = 66.6 (diabolical!)
201 ; 100*(201/301) = 66.778


So going from 100 armor to 101, adding a point reduces damage by 0.249, whereas going from 200 to 201 reduces damage by only 0.178. (I'm ignoring the fact that damage gets rounded, if you are worried by that, simply assume the attack did 10000 damage.)

Now, I'm not saying that there is a point where adding more armor is not useful. More armor is always going to help. But it is just not true that going from 10000 armor to 10100 is as helpful as going from 0 to 100.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6182 Posts
May 25 2012 18:26 GMT
#53
Why I only got 10k in my stash T__T woudl so buy some fo those item for my tank sorc
n_n
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6182 Posts
May 25 2012 18:26 GMT
#54
On May 26 2012 00:57 TLChronos wrote:
[image loading]

For Wizard it's really good, price?

Anyone wants to buy it?

I would if I coudl T_T
n_n
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 18:32:41
May 25 2012 18:32 GMT
#55
On May 26 2012 03:23 shoop wrote:
So going from 100 armor to 101, adding a point reduces damage by 0.249, whereas going from 200 to 201 reduces damage by only 0.178. (I'm ignoring the fact that damage gets rounded, if you are worried by that, simply assume the attack did 10000 damage.)

Now, I'm not saying that there is a point where adding more armor is not useful. More armor is always going to help. But it is just not true that going from 10000 armor to 10100 is as helpful as going from 0 to 100.

The thing is, % damage reduction is a misleading way to look at the gain of increased armor--this is because higher % damage reductions are equivalent to MUCH higher EHP increases. Going from 55%->56% damage reduction is much more significant than going from 0%->1%. To illustrate this, suppose that going from 0-100 armor gave you 1% damage reduction, and that was the same at all armor values. Then that would mean going from 9900 armor to 10000 would be going from 99% damage reduction to 100% damage reduction--which is an INFINITE EHP increase because going from 99% damage reduction to 100% damage reduction means you now take 0 damage.

The proper way to analyze defensive stats is in terms of their EHP increase--which, in the case of armor IS indeed linear. This corresponds similarly to the EHP increase from Vitality, which is also likewise linear.
Moderator
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 25 2012 19:06 GMT
#56
On May 26 2012 03:32 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2012 03:23 shoop wrote:
So going from 100 armor to 101, adding a point reduces damage by 0.249, whereas going from 200 to 201 reduces damage by only 0.178. (I'm ignoring the fact that damage gets rounded, if you are worried by that, simply assume the attack did 10000 damage.)

Now, I'm not saying that there is a point where adding more armor is not useful. More armor is always going to help. But it is just not true that going from 10000 armor to 10100 is as helpful as going from 0 to 100.

The thing is, % damage reduction is a misleading way to look at the gain of increased armor--this is because higher % damage reductions are equivalent to MUCH higher EHP increases. Going from 55%->56% damage reduction is much more significant than going from 0%->1%. To illustrate this, suppose that going from 0-100 armor gave you 1% damage reduction, and that was the same at all armor values. Then that would mean going from 9900 armor to 10000 would be going from 99% damage reduction to 100% damage reduction--which is an INFINITE EHP increase because going from 99% damage reduction to 100% damage reduction means you now take 0 damage.

The proper way to analyze defensive stats is in terms of their EHP increase--which, in the case of armor IS indeed linear. This corresponds similarly to the EHP increase from Vitality, which is also likewise linear.


Is the multiplier known for Diablo 3? (1% in LoL and 6% in WC3). Not sure I have to proper term here. I know it is much smaller, but I couldn't figure out a way to reverse engineer it myself.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Dmn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway101 Posts
May 25 2012 19:26 GMT
#57
Shoulders
292 armor
+206 strength
+65 intelligence
+76 vitality
+41 poison resistance
+56 resistance to all elements
Bitters
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada303 Posts
May 25 2012 20:05 GMT
#58
DH/Monk Amulet:
65 Dex
201 Vitality
53% Increased Crit Damage
29% Magic Find

Didn't go on the AH for 3.75mm buyout, so not sure what I should be looking for
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
May 25 2012 20:33 GMT
#59
Nice shield or what ?
On Europe.

[image loading]
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 22:03:32
May 25 2012 21:23 GMT
#60
got these 3 AS rings and need some opinions on them. :>

[image loading]

/edit added the vodoo mask. totally confused about this since i cant find ANYTHING comparable in the ah and dont know anything about witchdocs.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 333 334 335 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 218
ProTech118
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1169
Horang2 882
actioN 666
Larva 395
Mini 290
Hyun 185
Sharp 128
Killer 121
Zeus 113
Pusan 105
[ Show more ]
ZerO 91
Light 90
PianO 87
Rush 83
Dewaltoss 81
sorry 51
soO 26
NotJumperer 23
ToSsGirL 20
Hm[arnc] 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 437
XcaliburYe161
League of Legends
JimRising 420
C9.Mang0239
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1188
shoxiejesuss564
Super Smash Bros
Westballz18
Other Games
summit1g11825
Fuzer 54
ZerO(Twitch)4
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick678
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 67
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH251
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota253
League of Legends
• Jankos1443
• Stunt557
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
2h 5m
StarCraft2.fi
7h 5m
Replay Cast
14h 5m
The PondCast
1d
OSC
1d 6h
Demi vs Mixu
Nicoract vs TBD
Babymarine vs MindelVK
ForJumy vs TBD
Shameless vs Percival
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
BSL 21
3 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
Solar vs Creator
ByuN vs Gerald
Percival vs Babymarine
Moja vs Krystianer
EnDerr vs ForJumy
sebesdes vs Nicoract
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
OSC
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
Bonyth vs StRyKeR
Tarson vs Dandy
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
StarCraft2.fi
6 days
PiGosaur Monday
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-30
RSL Revival: Season 3
Light HT

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
Acropolis #4 - TS3
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.