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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 17:22:10
April 30 2013 17:20 GMT
#4141
On April 30 2013 16:43 rauk wrote:
http://d3up.com/b/569454

new barb, completely broke so can't buy new equipment yet. i have trouble keeping my fury up for constant WW, much less WOTB. what other build should i be using with my current gear?

Play whatever build you can, farm 500k-1mil gold and then re-gear completely. Since you have a Skorn you should probably play Rend/Bloodlust as main damage dealer.
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
April 30 2013 19:16 GMT
#4142
On April 30 2013 16:43 rauk wrote:
http://d3up.com/b/569454

new barb, completely broke so can't buy new equipment yet. i have trouble keeping my fury up for constant WW, much less WOTB. what other build should i be using with my current gear?


It's a lot easier to get started with two 1h weapons. Look for a cheap mace/axe with crit damage for your mainhand and a dagger/sword with crit damage/socket/str/other stats for your offhand. The dps of the offhand can be like 300 and you will be fine. Also, go for an immortal kings belt (or other belt with lifesteal + stats) and use the bloodthirst passive instead of the armor one. Life on hit won't cut it in inferno, but lifesteal is great. There's obviously more to upgrade, but if you are completely broke, your first 100k should go towards this stuff imo.
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
May 01 2013 00:23 GMT
#4143
On April 30 2013 09:59 Big G wrote:
Raising the fury needed would just kill HOTA builds.

Im my opinion WOTB/Earthquake/CotA cooldown should be reduced (for each rune) to 60 seconds. 2 minutes were fine a year ago when we were facing an elite pack every 3-4 minutes or so with our 10k dps. Right now a 2 minute cooldown is just obsolete, it is half my typical run!
Meanwhile Thrive on Chaos should be reworked to be similar to Critical Mass, so "critical hits have a chance to lower the cooldown of WOTB by 1 second" or the same with the usual "every 25 fury gained...". The amount of crits/fury in 15" should make it possible to pop WOTB a couple times per minute. That way it shouldn't feel mandatory since other (hopefully buffed) skills/runes may compete with it (think of WOTB/Insanity or Earthquake once per minute).



That actually sounds like a good idea. I hope blizz does their homework and doesnt screw everybody over if they decide to nerf the WW barb. Which is quite likely they will since more and more people are bringing it to attention. And that the bluepost said "they werent happy with it".
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 01:46:56
May 01 2013 01:46 GMT
#4144
well, the problem is that perma-wotb implies perma-cc-immunity, which is overpowered. (actually this is by far the most overpowered aspect of perma-wotb, more so than the movementspeed bonus or the stat boni.)
but this is the general problem with barbs: they only have one reasonable cc breaker and that is wotb, a skill with a 2 minute cooldown. only because thrive on chaos allows barbs to have this cc immunity most of the time are barbs a reliable and safe class. imagine what happens, for example, to hc barbs if their only cc breaker has a 2 minute cooldown....

imho all the insanely long cooldown skills of all classes need to be reworked. they are a relic from d3's early days where only the top players were even able to farm act3 inferno at a pace of 30 minutes per 5 zones, while the same is nowadays done in 8 minutes on higher mp....
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 01 2013 03:24 GMT
#4145
On May 01 2013 10:46 Black Gun wrote:
well, the problem is that perma-wotb implies perma-cc-immunity, which is overpowered. (actually this is by far the most overpowered aspect of perma-wotb, more so than the movementspeed bonus or the stat boni.)
but this is the general problem with barbs: they only have one reasonable cc breaker and that is wotb, a skill with a 2 minute cooldown. only because thrive on chaos allows barbs to have this cc immunity most of the time are barbs a reliable and safe class. imagine what happens, for example, to hc barbs if their only cc breaker has a 2 minute cooldown....

imho all the insanely long cooldown skills of all classes need to be reworked. they are a relic from d3's early days where only the top players were even able to farm act3 inferno at a pace of 30 minutes per 5 zones, while the same is nowadays done in 8 minutes on higher mp....

You're forgetting Leap. Sure, it's a junk skill, but so are most of the CC breakers.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
skorched
Profile Joined October 2010
United States81 Posts
May 01 2013 03:56 GMT
#4146
On April 30 2013 16:43 rauk wrote:
http://d3up.com/b/569454

new barb, completely broke so can't buy new equipment yet. i have trouble keeping my fury up for constant WW, much less WOTB. what other build should i be using with my current gear?


Add me sKorcheD#1991 NA server
I can help u with gold, don't play much anymore.
I love the sound of Medivacs getting feedbacked.
TomatoShark
Profile Joined August 2011
United States288 Posts
May 01 2013 05:15 GMT
#4147
anybody help me with gold as well =[
spena
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada116 Posts
May 01 2013 16:01 GMT
#4148
On May 01 2013 14:15 TomatoShark wrote:
anybody help me with gold as well =[

check out the d3 streamers at twitch, they usually do gold, legendary and/or full gear set giveaways
It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire.
skorched
Profile Joined October 2010
United States81 Posts
May 02 2013 04:35 GMT
#4149
On May 01 2013 14:15 TomatoShark wrote:
anybody help me with gold as well =[


Feel free to add me as well, or i can add u!
I love the sound of Medivacs getting feedbacked.
woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
May 02 2013 09:25 GMT
#4150
hello people,

just played again after a long long time (Because I get ladder anxiety in ladder and figuring out how to deal with swarn host) gave d3 a shot for 3 hrs and finally found a legendary item worth selling. I was broke (100-500k total money) for enternity until I found that item (unity) and it sold for 26M (which I did not expect). So pretty much it was the thing that made me go back to playing and got me to have some money.

What do you suggest I use it for? buy and sell? item upgrade? im can currently run MP8 but i takes long and some packs are really giving me a hard time in repairs (sucubus/phasebeast). Before some item upgrade and skill build upgrade (rend/bloodlust WW barb, WOTB without impunity Armor passive) I can only do MP 2-max 4 and was still struggling. I got the item MP5. Another questions: Do you suggest I run MP5s as MP8s takes long to kill elites? It seems item drops is just luck and MP8 have not yeild anything good for now for me.
I am so sexy.. I sometimes romance myself..
woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
May 02 2013 09:28 GMT
#4151
Also I have a couple of Uber portals I have not used, I was saying it to go with people who can handle MP10s but my friends all quit and now it stays there. Do u know a forum or group of people running organized Ubers runs in MP10s?
I am so sexy.. I sometimes romance myself..
spena
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada116 Posts
May 02 2013 14:38 GMT
#4152
On May 02 2013 18:28 woreyour wrote:
Also I have a couple of Uber portals I have not used, I was saying it to go with people who can handle MP10s but my friends all quit and now it stays there. Do u know a forum or group of people running organized Ubers runs in MP10s?

link profile for further help
It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire.
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
May 02 2013 15:12 GMT
#4153
A couple things.

As a ww barb, you can do almost any mp, but if you aren't smashing elites (or choosing to skip them) you should lower the difficulty if you want to improve your farming efficiency. Especially true if you are dying.

Also, if you are encountering sucubai and phase beasts, you are probably in the wrong zone, lol. One of the reasons keep depths 2 is so popular is because there are less annoying enemy types.

Obviously, D3 is a game, so if you enjoy the challenge go for it.
ExplicitGamerz
Profile Joined May 2013
9 Posts
May 02 2013 23:05 GMT
#4154
Decent build you have
bonedOUT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States140 Posts
May 04 2013 01:09 GMT
#4155
Can anyone offer advice on upgrades for my barbarian? I run a WW/Rend build.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Stark-1458/hero/11146792

budget is 30m
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
May 04 2013 01:18 GMT
#4156
On May 04 2013 10:09 bonedOUT wrote:
Can anyone offer advice on upgrades for my barbarian? I run a WW/Rend build.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Stark-1458/hero/11146792

budget is 30m


A mempo with vit and Inna's pants with str+str gems seems like pretty cheap and easy upgrades.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 01:50:37
May 04 2013 01:48 GMT
#4157
On May 04 2013 10:09 bonedOUT wrote:
Can anyone offer advice on upgrades for my barbarian? I run a WW/Rend build.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Stark-1458/hero/11146792

budget is 30m


You have too much vitality on offensive slots, like jewelry and gloves. This hinders your progress.

Shoulders, bracers, gloves and belt are decent

Helm: Mempo with vit and/or 240+ strength
Ammy and rings: ok until you recover some vit on other pieces, then you'll need more offensive stats
Chest: IK or equivalent with 3 sockets
Pants: 9%ias costs twice as much as 8% for top Inna's, so take that in mind. Anyway, you can get a str/vit roll capped at 100/100 or just vitality (200). I suggest Inna's with 150vit so that you can replace gems and at least one ring.
Boots: more str and/or more vit. IK boots below 150/150 are cheap nowadays.
Skorn: you can probably get 50-100dps more for a bunch of millions

bonedOUT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States140 Posts
May 04 2013 04:56 GMT
#4158
On May 04 2013 10:48 Big G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 10:09 bonedOUT wrote:
Can anyone offer advice on upgrades for my barbarian? I run a WW/Rend build.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Stark-1458/hero/11146792

budget is 30m


You have too much vitality on offensive slots, like jewelry and gloves. This hinders your progress.

Shoulders, bracers, gloves and belt are decent

Helm: Mempo with vit and/or 240+ strength
Ammy and rings: ok until you recover some vit on other pieces, then you'll need more offensive stats
Chest: IK or equivalent with 3 sockets
Pants: 9%ias costs twice as much as 8% for top Inna's, so take that in mind. Anyway, you can get a str/vit roll capped at 100/100 or just vitality (200). I suggest Inna's with 150vit so that you can replace gems and at least one ring.
Boots: more str and/or more vit. IK boots below 150/150 are cheap nowadays.
Skorn: you can probably get 50-100dps more for a bunch of millions




Thanks for the responses! With 1.0.8 coming, should I be adding more atk speed so that I can do elites also? Currently have some issues with fury if I dont fight groups of trash mobs
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 04 2013 11:01 GMT
#4159
Attack speed is always good. You can try a Stone of Jordan instead, so that white mobs last longer and elites die faster, but since you're using a Skorn you need attack speed badly.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
May 12 2013 16:35 GMT
#4160
Anyone able to help me out a bit?

http://d3up.com/b/378543

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Laggy-1503/hero/27918360

150-200m budget. I'd like some more survivability/dps so that I could move up a few MPs and do public games. Besides "keep crafting for better gloves/amulet", any tips? Thanks <3
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