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KING CHARLIE :D
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States447 Posts
May 14 2013 16:29 GMT
#4181
On May 15 2013 01:22 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 23:09 KING CHARLIE :D wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/goofy-1734/hero/33177363

I really want to take this barb to 400k+ dps


What do I need to make that happen? No suggestion is out of my price range, I have absolutely nothing to do in D3 but buy my character new clothes.


Thanks for your help!

ik helm with 6 cc for short term upgrade, crit mempo in the long run.
lacunis with similar stats, but 5.5 or 6 cc
trifecta gloves or at least ones with 9.5+ cc and 45+ cd
witching hour and ice climbers instead of ik belt and boots
better rings: either two rare ones with nice stats or one rare plus a nice cd or ias unity, depending on how much ias you need to reach a good breakpoint
more vit and armor on pants. not a dps suggestion, but would help your ehp a lot. same goes for vit roll on your ik chest.
higher cd on offhand
echoing fury as mainhand. the attack speed increase is applied to both weapons, which speeds you up greatly and thus increases both sheet dps and fury regen. then, you dont need the full ik bonus anymore.
amu has low cc and str, but it will nonetheless be hard to craft a substantially better one.


edit: sorry if Im rude now, but what the heck were you smoking when you put the marquise ruby in your chest and the perfect ruby in your helm? should have been the other way round


salmon. was a little distracted.

thanks for your help! =D
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l3iRdMaN
Profile Joined February 2004
United States72 Posts
May 15 2013 04:29 GMT
#4182
Hey guys.... having trouble upgrading my barb without spending ~800m. Wondering if there's something out there in the AH that i'm missing. i've been looking high and low for items and am coming up short. Budget is 1.2b but really would like to be as cost efficient as possible -- (dont want to spend 600m on 3k dps, etc) recently tried switching out my ik belt for a top end witching hour but lost heaps of survivability and had to sell it back .Rings pretty much have to stay. Any idea how much i'd have to spend to switch to a duel-1h build and maintain the same dps/lifesteal? (or know of any websites that i can use to check) skorn is obv nice but hard to upgrade at this point as its gonna run me close to 2b. thanks!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Duality-1421/hero/9230456
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
May 15 2013 04:53 GMT
#4183
I would ditch the hellfire ring (even though you say it has to stay) and ruby in your hat. At mp10, you already get 510% exp, so boosting that to 576% isn't that exciting. An amethyst will give you a nice boost to survivability and let you replace some of your defensive items. You also have really low attack speed and crit chance, I'm guessing you have a hard time perma wrathing with a skorn. 9% lifesteal is also way overkill, you can get by with 3%. Your best bet is to probably go w/ 2 1h'ers, but I'm just starting to price out 1h weapons myself so I can't help too much with that.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 15 2013 09:29 GMT
#4184
On May 15 2013 13:29 l3iRdMaN wrote:
Hey guys.... having trouble upgrading my barb without spending ~800m. Wondering if there's something out there in the AH that i'm missing. i've been looking high and low for items and am coming up short. Budget is 1.2b but really would like to be as cost efficient as possible -- (dont want to spend 600m on 3k dps, etc) recently tried switching out my ik belt for a top end witching hour but lost heaps of survivability and had to sell it back .Rings pretty much have to stay. Any idea how much i'd have to spend to switch to a duel-1h build and maintain the same dps/lifesteal? (or know of any websites that i can use to check) skorn is obv nice but hard to upgrade at this point as its gonna run me close to 2b. thanks!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Duality-1421/hero/9230456

check at d3up.com. You'll need an Echoing Fury for dual wielding, so take in mind that +0.21/0.25aps applies to both weapons.

Actually your Skorn is the easiest upgrade since you don't need one with life steal while using Rend/Bloodlust.

Anyway I don't know why you're having trouble finding upgrades with a 1b budget.


Helm: 230+str or 60+ res

Shoulders: more str and/or more vit (don't focus on Vile Ward, they're overrated and overpriced for barbs)

Ammy: lot of potential here but the vit + ar makes it hard to replace

Chest, gloves, lacuni ok

Belt: 200+str, vitality

Hellfire isn't worth it at high MP, if you are afraid to lose a lot of protection buy a good Litany of the Undaunted with a good random stat (cd, ias, 200+str, high average damage)

Pants are decent, although Inna's with str/vit should provide more dps (in that case you'll need Ice Climbers with high str/vit and no movement speed)

Boots ok


digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 12:10:53
May 15 2013 12:07 GMT
#4185
Just rolled a new Barb but I think I might invest too much on defense so my DPS really sucks >.<
http://d3up.com/b/624286
http://tw.battle.net/d3/en/profile/digmouse-1608/hero/18995359

Any suggestion on how to improve my DPS while still being able to survive high MP, say 7-8? I currently have 58k HP and 620 AR unbuffed and w/o any defensive passive, so reducing them to 50k and 550 is acceptable, aiming to raise unbuffed DPS to around 180k, budget is 300-500M.
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l3iRdMaN
Profile Joined February 2004
United States72 Posts
May 15 2013 13:29 GMT
#4186
On May 15 2013 18:29 Big G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 13:29 l3iRdMaN wrote:
Hey guys.... having trouble upgrading my barb without spending ~800m. Wondering if there's something out there in the AH that i'm missing. i've been looking high and low for items and am coming up short. Budget is 1.2b but really would like to be as cost efficient as possible -- (dont want to spend 600m on 3k dps, etc) recently tried switching out my ik belt for a top end witching hour but lost heaps of survivability and had to sell it back .Rings pretty much have to stay. Any idea how much i'd have to spend to switch to a duel-1h build and maintain the same dps/lifesteal? (or know of any websites that i can use to check) skorn is obv nice but hard to upgrade at this point as its gonna run me close to 2b. thanks!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Duality-1421/hero/9230456

check at d3up.com. You'll need an Echoing Fury for dual wielding, so take in mind that +0.21/0.25aps applies to both weapons.

Actually your Skorn is the easiest upgrade since you don't need one with life steal while using Rend/Bloodlust.

Anyway I don't know why you're having trouble finding upgrades with a 1b budget.


Helm: 230+str or 60+ res

Shoulders: more str and/or more vit (don't focus on Vile Ward, they're overrated and overpriced for barbs)

Ammy: lot of potential here but the vit + ar makes it hard to replace

Chest, gloves, lacuni ok

Belt: 200+str, vitality

Hellfire isn't worth it at high MP, if you are afraid to lose a lot of protection buy a good Litany of the Undaunted with a good random stat (cd, ias, 200+str, high average damage)

Pants are decent, although Inna's with str/vit should provide more dps (in that case you'll need Ice Climbers with high str/vit and no movement speed)

Boots ok




First off thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it. I usually do between mp8-mp10... Didnt even consider how small of an experience boost i was getting from the helm and hellfire ring. Ill probably start off by replacing the helm and hellfire and going from there. should provide me with a nice boost. will report back later today after work
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
May 15 2013 13:54 GMT
#4187
On May 15 2013 01:29 KING CHARLIE :D wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 01:22 Black Gun wrote:
On May 14 2013 23:09 KING CHARLIE :D wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/goofy-1734/hero/33177363

I really want to take this barb to 400k+ dps


What do I need to make that happen? No suggestion is out of my price range, I have absolutely nothing to do in D3 but buy my character new clothes.


Thanks for your help!

ik helm with 6 cc for short term upgrade, crit mempo in the long run.
lacunis with similar stats, but 5.5 or 6 cc
trifecta gloves or at least ones with 9.5+ cc and 45+ cd
witching hour and ice climbers instead of ik belt and boots
better rings: either two rare ones with nice stats or one rare plus a nice cd or ias unity, depending on how much ias you need to reach a good breakpoint
more vit and armor on pants. not a dps suggestion, but would help your ehp a lot. same goes for vit roll on your ik chest.
higher cd on offhand
echoing fury as mainhand. the attack speed increase is applied to both weapons, which speeds you up greatly and thus increases both sheet dps and fury regen. then, you dont need the full ik bonus anymore.
amu has low cc and str, but it will nonetheless be hard to craft a substantially better one.


edit: sorry if Im rude now, but what the heck were you smoking when you put the marquise ruby in your chest and the perfect ruby in your helm? should have been the other way round


salmon. was a little distracted.

thanks for your help! =D


Smoked salmon, nice.

Basically everything Black Gun said. I did notice your skills are pretty wonky. In the remote chance that you weren't just messing around prior to logging off, make sure to switch out Frenzy for Battle Rage. Also switch out Unforgiving for Brawler or Berserker Rage.
I'm the benevolent dictator you've been looking for.
Shrubbles
Profile Joined September 2011
Brazil29 Posts
May 16 2013 01:30 GMT
#4188
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Shrubbles-1335/hero/904308

Can't seem to find reasonably priced upgrades right now, at least not obvious ones..
I think maybe I should rethink my whole equipment. I have 400m right now.

Any tips?
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
May 16 2013 01:56 GMT
#4189
On May 16 2013 10:30 Shrubbles wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Shrubbles-1335/hero/904308

Can't seem to find reasonably priced upgrades right now, at least not obvious ones..
I think maybe I should rethink my whole equipment. I have 400m right now.

Any tips?


upgrade your gems, thats what sticks out the most from a quick glance
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
May 16 2013 02:17 GMT
#4190
@ Shrubbles and digmouse

5 piece IK just doesn't seem worth it, inna's pants, mempos, witching hours, ice climbers all give nice dps boosts if you can fit some of them in your gear. I do like that people are using brawler or berserker rage passives in their builds, I'm gonna have to try that myself.

@ Shrubbles

As mentioned above, ruby in the hat just isn't that great at high mp. Also, try to get attack speed on your gloves.



digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
May 16 2013 06:25 GMT
#4191
On May 16 2013 11:17 el_dawg wrote:
@ Shrubbles and digmouse

5 piece IK just doesn't seem worth it, inna's pants, mempos, witching hours, ice climbers all give nice dps boosts if you can fit some of them in your gear. I do like that people are using brawler or berserker rage passives in their builds, I'm gonna have to try that myself.

@ Shrubbles

As mentioned above, ruby in the hat just isn't that great at high mp. Also, try to get attack speed on your gloves.




Yea I've replaced IK belt with The Witching Hour and swapped in a Unity, considering getting a Mempo but crit ones are really really expensive.
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 16 2013 10:49 GMT
#4192
On May 16 2013 10:30 Shrubbles wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Shrubbles-1335/hero/904308

Can't seem to find reasonably priced upgrades right now, at least not obvious ones..
I think maybe I should rethink my whole equipment. I have 400m right now.

Any tips?

Your whole gear is probably worth less than 200mil, how can you not find upgrades with that budget?



Upgrade gems as others have said.

Helm: 230+ str or 60+ress

Amulet is decent, although that +damage is almost worthless using a Skorn, so ~200str should be better

Chest: more str and/or vit

Gloves: attack speed (if you can't keep wotb up) or critical damage

Lacuni: strength

Belt: vit

Rings, pants ok

Boots: more str and/or more vit, yours are worth around 100k gold...

Skorn: more dps and/or more strength (up to ~550)
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
May 16 2013 13:17 GMT
#4193
Lets try this too since I havent asked for advice in so long:
here is my character:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Usagi-2407/hero/7262165

I am broke, never have found a legendary or good items that sell for good (only the OHMYGOD great ring I found taht fits perfect for my barbarian)

Things you guys see that could be easily improved?

I have also tried a rend/overpower build with a 1m skorn that looked quite cool, but I became way squissier and died even at mp6, with this setup I can farm mp7 easily for keys and do mp7 ubers.
spena
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada116 Posts
May 16 2013 14:19 GMT
#4194
On May 16 2013 22:17 Usagi wrote:
Lets try this too since I havent asked for advice in so long:
here is my character:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Usagi-2407/hero/7262165

I am broke, never have found a legendary or good items that sell for good (only the OHMYGOD great ring I found taht fits perfect for my barbarian)

Things you guys see that could be easily improved?

I have also tried a rend/overpower build with a 1m skorn that looked quite cool, but I became way squissier and died even at mp6, with this setup I can farm mp7 easily for keys and do mp7 ubers.


HP is way too low.
-Start crafting VIT BoA Shoulders.
-Get Inna's Temp with 100+ vit.
-Immortal King chest will also be a good upgrade and will unlock Reduce melee by 4% IK set bobus.
-You can switch your ice climbers to Immortal King boots, this will also give you movement speed.
It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire.
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
May 16 2013 16:00 GMT
#4195
On May 16 2013 22:17 Usagi wrote:
Lets try this too since I havent asked for advice in so long:
here is my character:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Usagi-2407/hero/7262165

I am broke, never have found a legendary or good items that sell for good (only the OHMYGOD great ring I found taht fits perfect for my barbarian)

Things you guys see that could be easily improved?

I have also tried a rend/overpower build with a 1m skorn that looked quite cool, but I became way squissier and died even at mp6, with this setup I can farm mp7 easily for keys and do mp7 ubers.


Ya, definitely get some vit on your chest. IK is a good choice, just make sure to get that movespeed somewhere else.

You don't need the life on hit gem, you have enough lifesteal w/ the belt + passive.

You are wearing int ice climbers, look for some rares or IK or another ice climbers, maybe try to get movespeed too (since you wanna replace your chest).
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
May 16 2013 17:00 GMT
#4196
Inna's with 100 vit ~5m

If I get an IK chest it wont be for the shitty -4% damage would be to be able to replace another piece of the set out.
The ice climbers I didnt look for the int, was just what was available cheap, getting a bit under 200 str with similar vit should be at least 6-7m (not even talking about getting the 12% movespeed)

I like the point about swapping out the lifesteal gem, will try that.

Maybe I should have said I was looking to improve teh damage, since as I said, surviving, at mp 7 is not the problem,, but it takes way too long to kill thigs
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
May 16 2013 17:03 GMT
#4197
Also, any ideas on what to look for a cheap weapon upgrade? been looking at maces for a damage output upgrade, even tried a friend's echoing fury with a 100% cc gem and about 1200 and while the damage was better I lost way too many defensive stats
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
May 16 2013 17:32 GMT
#4198
I'm playing HC with my Barb. Just finished Normal, got around 500 dps, 4.5k life, 1500ish armor. Is this ok to start immediately progressing through Nightmare?
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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 17:43:13
May 16 2013 17:41 GMT
#4199
So I just gave it a run.... and this dropped

[image loading]

the god of rng must be in my favor today
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 19:03:58
May 16 2013 19:02 GMT
#4200
On May 17 2013 02:41 Usagi wrote:
So I just gave it a run.... and this dropped

[image loading]

the god of rng must be in my favor today


Edit: didnt see the % life. I think you can sell it for around 100 mill. maybe a bit more or less.
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