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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
May 16 2013 19:26 GMT
#4201
saw the cheapest similar to this for about 120 so yeah 100 would be it, however Im keeping ti, it's a great upgrade
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 16 2013 21:37 GMT
#4202
Actually it's worth just a few millions, life% isn't that great. Nice upgrade regardless.



WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 16 2013 21:51 GMT
#4203
On May 17 2013 06:37 Big G wrote:
Actually it's worth just a few millions, life% isn't that great. Nice upgrade regardless.




It is when there's literally no other useful mod to get, except more str/vit.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 16 2013 22:12 GMT
#4204
It is probably the second best prop you can get (after vit), but it is really good only when you have already ~1000vit, and sadly the chest is the best spot for vitality.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
May 16 2013 22:49 GMT
#4205
On May 17 2013 02:32 Bleak wrote:
I'm playing HC with my Barb. Just finished Normal, got around 500 dps, 4.5k life, 1500ish armor. Is this ok to start immediately progressing through Nightmare?


Yeah, Nightmare isn't too tough, just remember to be careful :p
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TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
May 17 2013 00:39 GMT
#4206
On May 17 2013 06:37 Big G wrote:
Actually it's worth just a few millions, life% isn't that great. Nice upgrade regardless.




life % is a brilliant stat. you just need alot of vit to make it Work. If you have enough main hp then those 12 will buff your hp a shit ton.
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 01:18:32
May 17 2013 01:18 GMT
#4207
On May 17 2013 09:39 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 06:37 Big G wrote:
Actually it's worth just a few millions, life% isn't that great. Nice upgrade regardless.




life % is a brilliant stat. you just need alot of vit to make it Work. If you have enough main hp then those 12 will buff your hp a shit ton.

I was talking about the item value... IK chest with 150str/150vit, which are generally considered better than that, go for ~20mil on EU. In no way that's worth 100mil.

Life% is an undervalued stat but I wouldn't recommend it on chest since its the main source of vitality (along with pants). It's better (as in, smarter) on IK belt / WH.

TomatoShark
Profile Joined August 2011
United States288 Posts
May 17 2013 10:42 GMT
#4208
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Tomatoshark-1830/hero/4078232

what do I need to upgrade?
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 17 2013 10:56 GMT
#4209
On May 17 2013 19:42 TomatoShark wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Tomatoshark-1830/hero/4078232

what do I need to upgrade?

Everything, starting from the helm.


Budget?
spena
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada116 Posts
May 17 2013 14:10 GMT
#4210
On May 17 2013 19:42 TomatoShark wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Tomatoshark-1830/hero/4078232

what do I need to upgrade?

Immortal King Helm and Belt should be your first upgrades, which will also unluck 4% melee dmg decrease
It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire.
Shrubbles
Profile Joined September 2011
Brazil29 Posts
May 17 2013 19:03 GMT
#4211
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Shrubbles-1335/hero/904308

I think I should get one of three next:

Better IK chest (IA more vit/str)
or
Better Lacuni (IA one with 90+str instead of vit)
or
Mempo with crit chance (THIS SHIT IS OUT OF ANY LEGIT PLAYER BUDGET!!)

Which one?!
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
May 17 2013 20:01 GMT
#4212
On May 18 2013 04:03 Shrubbles wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Shrubbles-1335/hero/904308

I think I should get one of three next:

Better IK chest (IA more vit/str)
or
Better Lacuni (IA one with 90+str instead of vit)
or
Mempo with crit chance (THIS SHIT IS OUT OF ANY LEGIT PLAYER BUDGET!!)

Which one?!


Str lacunis sound good. You could also consider inna's pants and/or a witching hour, you might need to pick up more vit on your chest to make these changes. Maybe pick up a vit IK belt+str/vit ice climbers (won't need move speed any more) and inna's pants?
ChuckTaylos
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada4 Posts
May 18 2013 04:22 GMT
#4213
Would like some help with my barb, budget is limited tho (under 20 mil )

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ChuckyT-1327/hero/14664552

Any help would be welcome!
"I'am what I say I'am" - The truth is unlocked within
TomatoShark
Profile Joined August 2011
United States288 Posts
May 18 2013 04:28 GMT
#4214
I only have like 1.5mil atm kinda broke t.t;
TomatoShark
Profile Joined August 2011
United States288 Posts
May 18 2013 04:44 GMT
#4215
just bought the inna's ice climbers and necklace for cheap with the 20 mil my friend gave me.
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
May 18 2013 05:06 GMT
#4216
On May 18 2013 13:22 ChuckTaylos wrote:
Would like some help with my barb, budget is limited tho (under 20 mil )

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ChuckyT-1327/hero/14664552

Any help would be welcome!


You aren't using weapon master? 10% crit will do way more for your survivability than 700 armor. Best of all, it's a free upgrade!
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
May 22 2013 22:50 GMT
#4217
I've followed this guide posted a few pages back:
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6471798208

And this is how far I've got right now:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Neco-2991/hero/9067363

Where should I go from here? New equipment is getting kinda pricey for me now, I only have 5 million gold :/ I can farm keys on mp7 right now, would like to get up to mp10.

Also, is the guide outdated? Whenever I watch a stream they would use overpower or HotA or both and skip war cry (which is a blasphemy in my mind). I feel like I need a new build, Magdha is giving me a lot of trouble.
Purpose88
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany137 Posts
May 22 2013 23:55 GMT
#4218
First of all you should farm on a lower MP. I don't think you can farm efficient on MP7. And Key? I would just ignore Keys/Übers and just farm XP/Items. With all the +XP Buffs from NV/MP Hellfire Rings are not really worth it anymore.

You have a pretty defensive build, so you could defintily switch out some skills. Switch nerves of steel with Brawler (really good since the patch) and WarCry with Overpower-Killings Spree. That gives you a pretty huge DPS increased while buffed. Oh and switch in Bash for Frenzy, you will 98% of the time just whirlwind and Bash is better for Fury.
Then you need to look for a MP that allows you to farm efficient. You need to be able to keep up WotB, Kill the Mobs in a reasonable time and don't die. Should be MP4/5 - I don't know how your Buffed DPS is. Just try.

Then you need to farm and improve piece by piece, if you find some cheap upgrade in the AH. Or try crafting, but I think you can get cheaper upgrades out of the AH for a little while.
I have a IK Chest lying around that should be a upgrade for you. Even pretty bad IK chests are way better than yours and you could go for 5-Set IK which is not that bad on a budget.
And then get better rings (at least with 4%CHC and 7%+IAS). As a whirlwind barb IAS and CHC is extremly important to keep fury up. Then I would change your offhand! LoH is pretty bad and with 70k DPS or more LS is better than LoH, but the bigger problem is the low CHD. With 50% Crit 30-40% more CHD is a huge difference. So get a Dagger or a Sword with highest CHD as possible, LS and str if you can affort it with 700dps+.

Overall its hard to say because I don't know the End Result. Overall you want to have somewhere around 45-50k HP (for MP5 you could even go lower) 45% CHC (without Overpower) and definitly over 2.0aps (better 2.23) to get extra WW ticks.

You can use http://d3up.com to see how your EHP/DPS looks like. There you also see your WW-Breakpoints.

Just send me a PM with you're Battletag and I'll add you and can help you out a little bit.

DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
May 23 2013 08:03 GMT
#4219
On May 23 2013 08:55 Purpose88 wrote:
With all the +XP Buffs from NV/MP Hellfire Rings are not really worth it anymore.


I see this misconception quite often. the truth is the ring have become better since the buff to exp, because nephelem valor is multiplicative you get more from the ring then ever before. Besides you can craft a really good one and keep it until you get a trifecta
Purpose88
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany137 Posts
May 23 2013 09:22 GMT
#4220
On May 23 2013 17:03 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 08:55 Purpose88 wrote:
With all the +XP Buffs from NV/MP Hellfire Rings are not really worth it anymore.


I see this misconception quite often. the truth is the ring have become better since the buff to exp, because nephelem valor is multiplicative you get more from the ring then ever before. Besides you can craft a really good one and keep it until you get a trifecta


Yes, but the time you have to waste to get even a mediocre one is way too much. You lose more xp while farming a ring then you would gain more.
If you don't already have a really good hellfire ring don't bother trying to get one.
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