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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
April 13 2013 22:16 GMT
#4101
On April 14 2013 06:22 Henk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 05:36 Big G wrote:
On April 14 2013 04:51 Henk wrote:
Sup guys, it's me again. I just found a legendary helmet (Mempo of twilight apparently) and I sold the unid for 40M. (Guy IDed it - didn't have CC so it's a good deal to me).

I now have 40mil and 105k. Could anyone please provide some kind of list of items to strive for? I'd like some opinions before my lack of knowledge causes me to buy 40M worth of junk. My current items are http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Raisa-1892/hero/32421213, which are probably all garbage and should be replaced.

Any comments would be most helpful, thanks in advance!

You need a lot more vitality so you can take it away from helm, gloves and ring. Part of it will come eventually as you level up, otherwise chest/pants/boots/belt have a lot of potential. As an example, IK boots with 170vit right now are only 2mil on EU, IK belt with 170+str and 80vit is 2.5mil, etc.

Once you've got ~150vit (a bit less if you upgrade your amethyst) you should go for:

- better weapons! Search for an echoing fury with 150str and socket or 70%cd, with 10mil you can get around 1100dps. Choose one with +0.25aps and low fear on hit if possible (sift through the most recent auctions). Then an offhand with 100str, 50%cd, life steal and socket. The market is filled with crafted weapons, with 10mil you can buy a 900dps sword.

- IK helm, 170+str, 6%cc, +250 armor (5mil on EU)

- IK gloves, 170+str, 30%cd or 8%ias (3-10mil). Ias is better for your build.

- ring with strength, 4.5cc, 7%ias, 30 avg damage minimun


All this stuff combined should cost around ~50mil, although these are prices on EU server.


Heya, thanks a lot! A quick question here; I'm on my shopping spree right now. Just wondering: I found an off hand with 900+ dps, but it has like 50 str. I also found an offhand with ~870 dps, but it does have 100str. Will the 100 str one be better in the end? Or is the str already included in the dps of the weapon? I'm confused T_T.. Thanks!


It isn't included, only way to find out which is better is to use a damage calculator like d3up or d3rawr.


Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 00:45:23
April 14 2013 00:45 GMT
#4102
On April 14 2013 06:22 Henk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 05:36 Big G wrote:
On April 14 2013 04:51 Henk wrote:
Sup guys, it's me again. I just found a legendary helmet (Mempo of twilight apparently) and I sold the unid for 40M. (Guy IDed it - didn't have CC so it's a good deal to me).

I now have 40mil and 105k. Could anyone please provide some kind of list of items to strive for? I'd like some opinions before my lack of knowledge causes me to buy 40M worth of junk. My current items are http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Raisa-1892/hero/32421213, which are probably all garbage and should be replaced.

Any comments would be most helpful, thanks in advance!

You need a lot more vitality so you can take it away from helm, gloves and ring. Part of it will come eventually as you level up, otherwise chest/pants/boots/belt have a lot of potential. As an example, IK boots with 170vit right now are only 2mil on EU, IK belt with 170+str and 80vit is 2.5mil, etc.

Once you've got ~150vit (a bit less if you upgrade your amethyst) you should go for:

- better weapons! Search for an echoing fury with 150str and socket or 70%cd, with 10mil you can get around 1100dps. Choose one with +0.25aps and low fear on hit if possible (sift through the most recent auctions). Then an offhand with 100str, 50%cd, life steal and socket. The market is filled with crafted weapons, with 10mil you can buy a 900dps sword.

- IK helm, 170+str, 6%cc, +250 armor (5mil on EU)

- IK gloves, 170+str, 30%cd or 8%ias (3-10mil). Ias is better for your build.

- ring with strength, 4.5cc, 7%ias, 30 avg damage minimun


All this stuff combined should cost around ~50mil, although these are prices on EU server.


Heya, thanks a lot! A quick question here; I'm on my shopping spree right now. Just wondering: I found an off hand with 900+ dps, but it has like 50 str. I also found an offhand with ~870 dps, but it does have 100str. Will the 100 str one be better in the end? Or is the str already included in the dps of the weapon? I'm confused T_T.. Thanks!


it isnt included, but the one with str will be better. since the recent patches, whirlwind and tornadoes both make up about 50% of your total damage output. but the nado damage is independent from the offhand dps. thus, offhand dps only contributes roughly 25% to the actual damage output. the str on the offhand, however, contributes 100%. on a char with about 2000 mainstat, the rule of thumb for weapons around roughly 1k dps is that 2 mainstat equal 1 dps.

using these approximations, 30 offhand dps are worth about 60/4 = 15 strength. so the one with 100 str and 30 less dps clearly wins. the margin is large enough for this to hold even if many of my approximations do not hold exactly or work out on the "unfavorable" side of this comparison.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
sUgArMaNiAc
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 01:28:18
April 14 2013 01:27 GMT
#4103
Hey guys, just got back into D3 after a long break. My barb can easily handle up to MP7-8 solo depending on the elites. My question is what do I do now? Are there any areas right now that are good to farm, or go after the Keywardens? I'm at a loss especially since I play with a friend about half the time and he too is becoming bored too quickly. We did speedruns from the start to the skeleton king a few times but that got a bit boring too. Suggestions?
No luck catching those swans then?
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
April 14 2013 10:30 GMT
#4104
Google for Alkaizer run, it is a good start for farming efficiency. When patch 1.08 will go live things will change a lot, right now on PTR there are at least 3-4 very good zones in each act.

spena
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada116 Posts
April 16 2013 13:39 GMT
#4105
Hi guys, what should be my next steps to get my to 200k dps unbuffed?

I'm thinking IK's Iron with 200STR/VIT/CC/CH and maybe a new neck?
It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
April 16 2013 14:13 GMT
#4106
On April 16 2013 22:39 spena wrote:
Hi guys, what should be my next steps to get my to 200k dps unbuffed?

I'm thinking IK's Iron with 200STR/VIT/CC/CH and maybe a new neck?


post profile so people can see what you already have. otherwise its hard to help you
spena
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada116 Posts
April 16 2013 14:41 GMT
#4107
On April 16 2013 23:13 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 22:39 spena wrote:
Hi guys, what should be my next steps to get my to 200k dps unbuffed?

I'm thinking IK's Iron with 200STR/VIT/CC/CH and maybe a new neck?


post profile so people can see what you already have. otherwise its hard to help you


oops http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zero-12726/hero/30439268
It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire.
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
April 16 2013 15:01 GMT
#4108
@spena perhaps ditch the Unity for something with avgdmg/str/cc/cd? IK belt with 200+ str? Or a witching hour (though the latter would gimp your mitigation i think)? I think upgrading your gloves would be cheaper than upgrading your amulet. Also you can make up a lot of mitigation on your shoulders by crafting shoulders of vitality. All you need is a decent str roll and ar.

@sugar A3 MP10 runs are fun, as it nets a boatload of xp and elites can be tricky depending on affixes. Makes it fun. I like to get 5NV stack before running AC1 and 2. Blitzing through Keeps 2 is also entertaining. If you can do it with a ruby in helm and a hellfire ring, it's a crazy amount of XP.

my profile for ref: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/bruteMax-1914/hero/3288774
I'm the benevolent dictator you've been looking for.
Nightkaira
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore412 Posts
April 17 2013 13:41 GMT
#4109
hi guys, I've just come back from a long time away after the act 4 keywarden repeatedly refused to drop the plans for the inferno machines.

I've got a budget of around 10mil and I was wonder how can i improve my barb. I've also looked at some budget guide here and there but doesn't seem right to me.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NightKaira-6660/hero/14335501

Also, i m having a hard time keeping WoTB up, any tips ? Cheers !
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
April 17 2013 14:34 GMT
#4110
10mil can get you a full IK set, which will solve your WotB uptime issues. Not saying you need to go this route though. I'll assume you plan on sticking with your current Sprint/WW build.

You need 24% movement speed, you only have 12%. Your are also lacking a bit in IAS and hp.

A lot of your gear can be upgraded very cheaply, specifically your boots, offhand, pants, both rings, chest, bracers and shoulders.

Replace your chest with an IK chest. Budget 1m for a chest with around 100str/100vit. You will gain some AR and have 3 sockets. Try to look for one with the most armor given the above.

Replace your boots with either IK boots or Ice Climbers. Again budget say 1m. Both will give 12% ms bonus so find one with the most AR str and vit within your budget.

Replace your bracers with Lacuni's. This is your most important upgrade. You have decent cc% so just look for one that has 100+ str and 9%IAS. Lacunis with cc% are still pretty expensive.

Replace your pants. Just look for a rare item on the AH and pick something for 100k gold. Easy upgrade.

Replace your offhand. Again, look for a rare axe/dagger/sword on the AH. Grab one with ls, not loh. Look for other nice stats too like 100+str, 80%+crit dmg, and a socket. 800+dps. Throw in vit if it doesn't up the price a lot. These go for dirt cheap now.

Your rings are also easy to upgrade. Look for rings with 4%+ cc, avg dmg, str, vit or life%. I'm not sure on prices but I think you can add in 20+ cd or 6%+ ias and still be under 1m per ring.

Your shoulders aren't great, but not as bad as some of your other gear. You can replace it with a rare with more vit and AR for a 2-300k gold. Or you can spend 1-2m on a vile ward. I recommend shopping for a cheap rare and once you gather some mats, craft a vitality shoulder.

Once you upgrade your gear, swap out the Boon passive for either Superstition or Brawler and you'll be g2g.
I'm the benevolent dictator you've been looking for.
Nightkaira
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore412 Posts
April 17 2013 14:55 GMT
#4111
On April 17 2013 23:34 bruteMax wrote:
10mil can get you a full IK set, which will solve your WotB uptime issues. Not saying you need to go this route though. I'll assume you plan on sticking with your current Sprint/WW build.

You need 24% movement speed, you only have 12%. Your are also lacking a bit in IAS and hp.

A lot of your gear can be upgraded very cheaply, specifically your boots, offhand, pants, both rings, chest, bracers and shoulders.

Replace your chest with an IK chest. Budget 1m for a chest with around 100str/100vit. You will gain some AR and have 3 sockets. Try to look for one with the most armor given the above.

Replace your boots with either IK boots or Ice Climbers. Again budget say 1m. Both will give 12% ms bonus so find one with the most AR str and vit within your budget.

Replace your bracers with Lacuni's. This is your most important upgrade. You have decent cc% so just look for one that has 100+ str and 9%IAS. Lacunis with cc% are still pretty expensive.

Replace your pants. Just look for a rare item on the AH and pick something for 100k gold. Easy upgrade.

Replace your offhand. Again, look for a rare axe/dagger/sword on the AH. Grab one with ls, not loh. Look for other nice stats too like 100+str, 80%+crit dmg, and a socket. 800+dps. Throw in vit if it doesn't up the price a lot. These go for dirt cheap now.

Your rings are also easy to upgrade. Look for rings with 4%+ cc, avg dmg, str, vit or life%. I'm not sure on prices but I think you can add in 20+ cd or 6%+ ias and still be under 1m per ring.

Your shoulders aren't great, but not as bad as some of your other gear. You can replace it with a rare with more vit and AR for a 2-300k gold. Or you can spend 1-2m on a vile ward. I recommend shopping for a cheap rare and once you gather some mats, craft a vitality shoulder.

Once you upgrade your gear, swap out the Boon passive for either Superstition or Brawler and you'll be g2g.


Thanks man, what stats should i look for my pants ? =D
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
April 17 2013 15:30 GMT
#4112
2 sockets, 200+vit, 70+ AR, and str.
I'm the benevolent dictator you've been looking for.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 17:44:09
April 17 2013 17:43 GMT
#4113
hi guys, today I am asking for some ideas on how to improve my buddies barb:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Metzgerx-2594/hero/24336422

his budget is around 24 million. how would you proceed? imho the offhand and the pants should be changed next, followed by a better IK chest. replacing his shoulders with lacunis is probably also a good idea. Im just afraid this wont be possible with his current budget...
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Turin
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany72 Posts
April 17 2013 19:04 GMT
#4114
Tell him to get a (lifesteal) skorn and go for a rend build. Also craft ~20 bracers. Should result in a massive upgrade. Replacing firewalkers with zuni boots will also be a cheap big dps boost at the cost of only some protection.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
April 17 2013 19:59 GMT
#4115
On April 18 2013 04:04 Turin wrote:
Tell him to get a (lifesteal) skorn and go for a rend build. Also craft ~20 bracers. Should result in a massive upgrade. Replacing firewalkers with zuni boots will also be a cheap big dps boost at the cost of only some protection.

im sorry but a rend build is way too complex for him...
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 22:07:34
April 17 2013 22:06 GMT
#4116
Hey guys, I really wonder what I should be doing next.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Raisa-1892/hero/32421213

This is my guy. I'm confused about a lot of things. Should I swap the main and the off hand? Some people said it would be better for me build. Should I ditch some IK items?

Right now I don't have any cash but once some of my stuff on the AH sells I should be having ~20mil. What kind of items would you recommend for me? (I'd love some stat recommendations!)

I feel like my crit damage is way too low. Should I equip another amulet? I have one with like 56% CD and 5 CC on it in the bank, instead of this one with 9.5 cc and ias. Where the correct place to gain more CD?

Thanks in advance for your time!

Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 22:22:11
April 17 2013 22:21 GMT
#4117
On April 18 2013 07:06 Henk wrote:
Hey guys, I really wonder what I should be doing next.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Raisa-1892/hero/32421213

This is my guy. I'm confused about a lot of things. Should I swap the main and the off hand? Some people said it would be better for me build. Should I ditch some IK items?

Right now I don't have any cash but once some of my stuff on the AH sells I should be having ~20mil. What kind of items would you recommend for me? (I'd love some stat recommendations!)

I feel like my crit damage is way too low. Should I equip another amulet? I have one with like 56% CD and 5 CC on it in the bank, instead of this one with 9.5 cc and ias. Where the correct place to gain more CD?

Thanks in advance for your time!


you should absolutely not swap your weapons. in general, your gear seems quite balanced. what i noticed, however, is that you have 5 items with ias. usually, the bp is reached with just 4 of them, but you should check that in detail. if you can indeed ditch one ias slot, it should be the amu. there, you can get up to 100% crit dam.

another slot that you should change are the boots. get some with more str. since you are not using the ik belt, this wouldnt make you lose any set boni anyway.

some time in the future, you will want to upgrade your mainhand. low 11xx dps with only 70% cd is not that great. better get one with maybe 1180 dps and a socket.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
April 17 2013 23:12 GMT
#4118
On April 18 2013 07:21 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 07:06 Henk wrote:
Hey guys, I really wonder what I should be doing next.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Raisa-1892/hero/32421213

This is my guy. I'm confused about a lot of things. Should I swap the main and the off hand? Some people said it would be better for me build. Should I ditch some IK items?

Right now I don't have any cash but once some of my stuff on the AH sells I should be having ~20mil. What kind of items would you recommend for me? (I'd love some stat recommendations!)

I feel like my crit damage is way too low. Should I equip another amulet? I have one with like 56% CD and 5 CC on it in the bank, instead of this one with 9.5 cc and ias. Where the correct place to gain more CD?

Thanks in advance for your time!


you should absolutely not swap your weapons. in general, your gear seems quite balanced. what i noticed, however, is that you have 5 items with ias. usually, the bp is reached with just 4 of them, but you should check that in detail. if you can indeed ditch one ias slot, it should be the amu. there, you can get up to 100% crit dam.

another slot that you should change are the boots. get some with more str. since you are not using the ik belt, this wouldnt make you lose any set boni anyway.

some time in the future, you will want to upgrade your mainhand. low 11xx dps with only 70% cd is not that great. better get one with maybe 1180 dps and a socket.


Right now I have 2.30 attack speed, I believe BP is 2.2222 or so? Without the belt I had 2.19, so I figured I needed it. Do you recommend something like ice climbers for me then, in the boots slot?

So.. Basically 1. Get better boots 2. Either craft a shitton of amulets/buy a better echoing fury? Thanks for your help!
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
April 17 2013 23:22 GMT
#4119
On April 18 2013 08:12 Henk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 07:21 Black Gun wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:06 Henk wrote:
Hey guys, I really wonder what I should be doing next.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Raisa-1892/hero/32421213

This is my guy. I'm confused about a lot of things. Should I swap the main and the off hand? Some people said it would be better for me build. Should I ditch some IK items?

Right now I don't have any cash but once some of my stuff on the AH sells I should be having ~20mil. What kind of items would you recommend for me? (I'd love some stat recommendations!)

I feel like my crit damage is way too low. Should I equip another amulet? I have one with like 56% CD and 5 CC on it in the bank, instead of this one with 9.5 cc and ias. Where the correct place to gain more CD?

Thanks in advance for your time!


you should absolutely not swap your weapons. in general, your gear seems quite balanced. what i noticed, however, is that you have 5 items with ias. usually, the bp is reached with just 4 of them, but you should check that in detail. if you can indeed ditch one ias slot, it should be the amu. there, you can get up to 100% crit dam.

another slot that you should change are the boots. get some with more str. since you are not using the ik belt, this wouldnt make you lose any set boni anyway.

some time in the future, you will want to upgrade your mainhand. low 11xx dps with only 70% cd is not that great. better get one with maybe 1180 dps and a socket.


Right now I have 2.30 attack speed, I believe BP is 2.2222 or so? Without the belt I had 2.19, so I figured I needed it. Do you recommend something like ice climbers for me then, in the boots slot?

So.. Basically 1. Get better boots 2. Either craft a shitton of amulets/buy a better echoing fury? Thanks for your help!


well, when you go for ice climbers, you would lose the movementspeed, so i wouldnt recommend switching over to them yet.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
GrimZeRo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 20:31:14
April 18 2013 20:30 GMT
#4120
Looking for upgrade advice again. Looking to get as close to 200k unbuffed dps as possible while still rockin' the SOJ.

I'm aware I can upgrade to a 250 str mempo and a 250 str IK belt already, just can't seem to find a good deal atm .

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Promises-1825/hero/16131480

Thanks guys ^_^!
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