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Dibella
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany79 Posts
April 05 2013 08:29 GMT
#4061
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6471798208

If you want to use a Skorn, you should at least have ~21% IAS.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
April 05 2013 09:01 GMT
#4062
On April 05 2013 15:31 Genji wrote:
Hey guys

I've just started up D3 again after a 6 month hiatus. I was wondering what a decent all around build is for a low budget barb (16m). I've just purchased myself a low quality Skorn

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Genji-1536/hero/4192468

This is what I've got so far even though it's not much =(

Thank you

16 mil is a good budget, By now you can buy a full IK set + Lacuni Prowlers with cc + everything else.

As for the builds, the most common are sprint-WW and HotA based: http://www.diablofans.com/topic/84093-106-barbarian-popular-builds-hints-and-bis-gear-setups/


Genji
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada16 Posts
April 05 2013 09:34 GMT
#4063
On April 05 2013 18:01 Big G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 15:31 Genji wrote:
Hey guys

I've just started up D3 again after a 6 month hiatus. I was wondering what a decent all around build is for a low budget barb (16m). I've just purchased myself a low quality Skorn

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Genji-1536/hero/4192468

This is what I've got so far even though it's not much =(

Thank you

16 mil is a good budget, By now you can buy a full IK set + Lacuni Prowlers with cc + everything else.

As for the builds, the most common are sprint-WW and HotA based: http://www.diablofans.com/topic/84093-106-barbarian-popular-builds-hints-and-bis-gear-setups/




On April 05 2013 17:29 Dibella wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6471798208

If you want to use a Skorn, you should at least have ~21% IAS.



Thanks alot you guys, I'll give these guides a shot.
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-06 14:31:05
April 06 2013 14:25 GMT
#4064
Hey guys, I've only been playing diablo 3 for about 3 weeks now, and I hit level 60. I spend some gold on the AH, buying a few items some friends of mine told me to buy.

Here's my barbarian: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Raisa-1892/hero/32421213

As you might be able to see, my items are pretty much whatever I could scrape together for as little gold as possible.
So, which items should I replace first, after I get some more gold? In which area could I benefit the most?

Also, are my stats/skills alright? I've been told a whirlwind barbarian is a good build to use, and I like it so far.
Should I change anything? I've also been told my vitality is low, should I swap gems for more hp?

Thanks!
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
April 06 2013 15:12 GMT
#4065
Craft Amulets, replace pants with something that has more vitality and allres or/and armor. Your life is really low.
Julianos
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany11 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-06 16:14:19
April 06 2013 16:12 GMT
#4066
On April 06 2013 23:25 Henk wrote:
Hey guys, I've only been playing diablo 3 for about 3 weeks now, and I hit level 60. I spend some gold on the AH, buying a few items some friends of mine told me to buy.

Here's my barbarian: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Raisa-1892/hero/32421213


Farm VotA MP0/1 for Demonic Essenses and Craft Shoulders/Gloves/Amu. Your Pants and Shoulders are pretty bad. You can get way better Rare-Shoulders with ~230+ Str/80 Vit and 80AR and maybe even %Life/Armor for little money.
Your Weapon is pretty terrible. With nearly no IAS you should go + Show Spoiler [Dual Wield] +
Main Hand : DPS 900+, Crit Dmg (50%+), socket (mace,axe or mighty weap)
Off hand : DPS 600+, Crt Dmg (50%+) 2.5%+LS/socket

And your Rings/Neck is really really bad. Try crafting Amus - you should get a better one really fast. With Rings look for 25+ Avg Damage, 4.5 CHC and IAS or CHD ...just link Rings in chat and look ingame what gives you most DPS increase for least money.
For Pants get some with lower AR - that'll save you alot of money. Like ~90Str/185Vit/40+AR/200Armor.
Because people look most of the Time for 100Str/200Vit/50Ar items little bit under these values are way cheaper.
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 11:04:50
April 08 2013 09:30 GMT
#4067
Thanks for the tips guys. I've been trying to craft some amulets/shoulders/bracers. I crafted about 3-8 of them, no luck so far sadly and it's burning through my gold haha. I play inferno on mp3 and it's going pretty well, I did a couple of VotA runs like you suggested. (I'm wearing my newly crafted shoulders/necklace, but it doesn't have CC or anything.. So I figured they're still pretty bad.)

I'll take a look if I can find cheap 1H on the AH too, and I'll check for some better pants too (Edit: I found a pair of 'nice' pants. Thanks! If you have any more tips, I'd be happy to hear them.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:52:07
April 08 2013 09:50 GMT
#4068
On April 08 2013 18:30 Henk wrote:
Thanks for the tips guys. I've been trying to craft some amulets/shoulders/bracers. I crafted about 3-8 of them, no luck so far sadly and it's burning through my gold haha. I play inferno on mp3 and it's going pretty well, I did a couple of VotA runs like you suggested. (I'm wearing my newly crafted shoulders/necklace, but it doesn't have CC or anything.. So I figured they're still pretty bad.)

I'll take a look if I can find cheap 1H on the AH too, and I'll check for some better pants too. Thanks! If you have any more tips, I'd be happy to hear them.

if crafting 8 pieces burns through your gold fast and an amu without cc or cd is your best amu simply because of 200 mainstat, then i assume you just started and have atrocious gear, correct? in this case, you should absolutely NOT play on mp3! probably mp0 is the way to go for you right now. killspeed always trumps the marginal bonuses of the first mp levels.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
April 08 2013 10:37 GMT
#4069
On April 08 2013 18:50 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:30 Henk wrote:
Thanks for the tips guys. I've been trying to craft some amulets/shoulders/bracers. I crafted about 3-8 of them, no luck so far sadly and it's burning through my gold haha. I play inferno on mp3 and it's going pretty well, I did a couple of VotA runs like you suggested. (I'm wearing my newly crafted shoulders/necklace, but it doesn't have CC or anything.. So I figured they're still pretty bad.)

I'll take a look if I can find cheap 1H on the AH too, and I'll check for some better pants too. Thanks! If you have any more tips, I'd be happy to hear them.

if crafting 8 pieces burns through your gold fast and an amu without cc or cd is your best amu simply because of 200 mainstat, then i assume you just started and have atrocious gear, correct? in this case, you should absolutely NOT play on mp3! probably mp0 is the way to go for you right now. killspeed always trumps the marginal bonuses of the first mp levels.


My gear is this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Raisa-1892/hero/32421213.

And yeah.. perhaps you're right. I just picked mp3 because I liked having a bit of challenge, and I was pretty much facerolling through mp0. But yeah, my killspeed will probably be a lot higher at mp0.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 12:35:33
April 08 2013 12:35 GMT
#4070
On April 08 2013 19:37 Henk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:50 Black Gun wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:30 Henk wrote:
Thanks for the tips guys. I've been trying to craft some amulets/shoulders/bracers. I crafted about 3-8 of them, no luck so far sadly and it's burning through my gold haha. I play inferno on mp3 and it's going pretty well, I did a couple of VotA runs like you suggested. (I'm wearing my newly crafted shoulders/necklace, but it doesn't have CC or anything.. So I figured they're still pretty bad.)

I'll take a look if I can find cheap 1H on the AH too, and I'll check for some better pants too. Thanks! If you have any more tips, I'd be happy to hear them.

if crafting 8 pieces burns through your gold fast and an amu without cc or cd is your best amu simply because of 200 mainstat, then i assume you just started and have atrocious gear, correct? in this case, you should absolutely NOT play on mp3! probably mp0 is the way to go for you right now. killspeed always trumps the marginal bonuses of the first mp levels.


My gear is this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Raisa-1892/hero/32421213.

And yeah.. perhaps you're right. I just picked mp3 because I liked having a bit of challenge, and I was pretty much facerolling through mp0. But yeah, my killspeed will probably be a lot higher at mp0.

that gear is actually better than i expected.
but yeah, its not mp3-ready yet. maybe try mp1 for the moment?
anyway, i understand that you want a challenge, but your killspeed shouldnt suffer tooo much.

the higher your killspeed the quicker you can acquire the gold to get better gear, which will reduce the time untill you are able to farm higher mp levels efficiently.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 09:42:06
April 08 2013 15:00 GMT
#4071
On April 05 2013 18:01 Big G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 15:31 Genji wrote:
Hey guys

I've just started up D3 again after a 6 month hiatus. I was wondering what a decent all around build is for a low budget barb (16m). I've just purchased myself a low quality Skorn

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Genji-1536/hero/4192468

This is what I've got so far even though it's not much =(

Thank you

16 mil is a good budget, By now you can buy a full IK set + Lacuni Prowlers with cc + everything else.

As for the builds, the most common are sprint-WW and HotA based: http://www.diablofans.com/topic/84093-106-barbarian-popular-builds-hints-and-bis-gear-setups/




I started up again and fully geared my barb for under 1.5 mil (full ik set, + few others (all set/legendary quality or better, except for rings.). Was able to lollercoast through inferno. able to do mp4/5 without much difficulty
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
April 08 2013 18:48 GMT
#4072
On April 08 2013 21:35 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 19:37 Henk wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:50 Black Gun wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:30 Henk wrote:
Thanks for the tips guys. I've been trying to craft some amulets/shoulders/bracers. I crafted about 3-8 of them, no luck so far sadly and it's burning through my gold haha. I play inferno on mp3 and it's going pretty well, I did a couple of VotA runs like you suggested. (I'm wearing my newly crafted shoulders/necklace, but it doesn't have CC or anything.. So I figured they're still pretty bad.)

I'll take a look if I can find cheap 1H on the AH too, and I'll check for some better pants too. Thanks! If you have any more tips, I'd be happy to hear them.

if crafting 8 pieces burns through your gold fast and an amu without cc or cd is your best amu simply because of 200 mainstat, then i assume you just started and have atrocious gear, correct? in this case, you should absolutely NOT play on mp3! probably mp0 is the way to go for you right now. killspeed always trumps the marginal bonuses of the first mp levels.


My gear is this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Raisa-1892/hero/32421213.

And yeah.. perhaps you're right. I just picked mp3 because I liked having a bit of challenge, and I was pretty much facerolling through mp0. But yeah, my killspeed will probably be a lot higher at mp0.

that gear is actually better than i expected.
but yeah, its not mp3-ready yet. maybe try mp1 for the moment?
anyway, i understand that you want a challenge, but your killspeed shouldnt suffer tooo much.

the higher your killspeed the quicker you can acquire the gold to get better gear, which will reduce the time untill you are able to farm higher mp levels efficiently.


Thanks! I've lowered my mp to mp1. What would you suggest is the best thing for me to do? Should I keep spending cash on trying to craft better shoulders/wrists or should I save up and just buy something on the AH? And if so, what slot should I upgrade first/what should I aim for?

Thanks!
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
April 08 2013 20:39 GMT
#4073
I wouldn't craft yet, you can still get pretty nice upgrades for cheap. I would look for a ring and amulet (8+cc) w/ crit chance and crit damage, you can afford to give up some vitality. You will also want to hit 24% move speed, so 1 other item is needed, either Inna's pants or lacuni's (most likely) if you want to keep the IK set bonus. A larger emerald in your weapon is also nice. Finally, a 1h + off hand might actually be better for your build. Get a mace w/ an open socket, crit chance and no attack speed modifier. Your off hand can either be an echoing fury w/ str + a socket or str + crit damage (cheaper), try to get as close to +.25aps as you can, dps of your offhand doesn't matter. You can also get a low dps dagger or sword w/ crit damage, open socket, str, life steal. Your character sheet dps may go down w/ 2 1handers, but your actual dps and ability to maintain WOTB will be way better.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 16:38:33
April 09 2013 16:16 GMT
#4074
I'm curious about some of your thoughts regarding my barbarian.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Archy-2955/hero/463401

I've more or less just been having some fun not really looking at guides just playing with what i feel is fun (its one of the few games i havent aimed for the optimal). I'm comfortable in MP7 inferno, in MP8 i'm "okay" but there's a few more deaths then i'd like . My farm route is also probabaly sub-optimal i start at the seigebreaker quest teleport to the bridge rather then the crossing and go all the way through to the 1st guy in heaven that spawns all the little mobs.

Incase you're wondering how i play with the weird skill setup. I keep the frenzy buff maxed at all possible times, i keep rend ticking on as many mobs as possible then i burn the rest of the rage on seizmic slam refreshing rend whenever i no longer see the debuff above the mobs heads. (But rule number 1 is to never get surrounded, in the event of getting surrounded, slam in a particular direction and gtfo! lol). It's probabaly a bit of a daft playstyle but i have fun with it.

Most of my gear i got from "bids" rather then buyouts, the most expensive piece was the chest and bracers at 400k each (the legs were 15,000) so a good portion of the pieces arnt properly optimized.

I'm curious about what you're opinions would be? i'm not sure where to go from here, whether i should start playing something standard (i do kinda enjoy my shouts/slam/rend thing), or how i should change stuff etc.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 16:44:16
April 09 2013 16:41 GMT
#4075
so i just finished my spending spree, this is the result:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BlackXistenZ-2929/hero/3406592

where could i improve him? boots and shoulders could have more vita, amu and gloves could have trifecta and i could need some more res.

imho i should get an allres ik helm and and then craft amus, shoulders and gloves. at the same time, i can look out for better ice climbers. i dont think marginal str gains, for example on the belt, are worth spending a lot atm. getting cd on the gloves and ias on the amu probably is worth a lot more.


im not sure about the offhand. if provides sick dps boosts, but it is just quite slow. its hard for me to gauge how much that hurts my tornado dam compared to a sword offhand. on the other hand, 6% to elites is quite nice as well. this amounts to roughly 20k extra dps vs elites.


well, at least Im very satisfied with my lacunis, ik chest, innas pants, the unity and my mainhand. dont think i need to change any of those anytime soon.


@archybaldie: its sounds like you are really enjoying your barb with your quirky playstyle! you should just keep this up until it isnt fun anymore. never change an entertaining spec.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 02:07:29
April 10 2013 02:03 GMT
#4076
hm you should probably gain ehp in some way (IK with allres, better gloves...) so you can replace your Unity with one with ias. And/or just say goodbye to the Hellfire ring. That way you should be fine as far as attack speed is concerned even with that offhand (which is very very good dps-wise).


Meanwhile, after ~300 attempts I got the bracers you can see in my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709
Now I'm wondering if I should replace my pants with str/vit Inna's and what to craft next (as soon as I get a couple hundred essences). We'll see.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
April 10 2013 03:35 GMT
#4077
On April 10 2013 11:03 Big G wrote:
hm you should probably gain ehp in some way (IK with allres, better gloves...) so you can replace your Unity with one with ias. And/or just say goodbye to the Hellfire ring. That way you should be fine as far as attack speed is concerned even with that offhand (which is very very good dps-wise).


Meanwhile, after ~300 attempts I got the bracers you can see in my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709
Now I'm wondering if I should replace my pants with str/vit Inna's and what to craft next (as soon as I get a couple hundred essences). We'll see.

Nice! Those are almost perfect, even have pickup radius!
Iorveth
Profile Joined April 2013
Cayman Islands62 Posts
April 10 2013 09:11 GMT
#4078
On April 10 2013 01:41 Black Gun wrote:
so i just finished my spending spree, this is the result:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BlackXistenZ-2929/hero/3406592


Thats what I see with alot of "Newbies". You seem to think that Legendaries are overall better than Rares? On a Budget Rares outclass Legendaries by a landslide! You have only Legendaries, but they are pretty much all terrible!


On April 10 2013 01:41 Black Gun wrote:
so i just finished my spending spree, this is the result:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BlackXistenZ-2929/hero/3406592


Overall really solid gear. But I would drop WarCry for Overpower(Killing Spree) and maybe change your offhand to a Dagger with LS, Socket and 90%+ CHC. And I don't know if its worth it to keep your Hellfire Ring. 35% are kinda useless if you farm on higher MPs.
TomatoShark
Profile Joined August 2011
United States288 Posts
April 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#4079
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Tomatoshark-1830/hero/4078232

any help with my guy?
Iorveth
Profile Joined April 2013
Cayman Islands62 Posts
April 10 2013 10:28 GMT
#4080
Your specc is kinda wirred. No Sprint, no WotB but HotA and Rend? I would always go Dual Wield WW if you're new/on a budget. You need pretty good gear to make 2Hand Rend work, because you need high IAS.
You gear has the right stats, so you know what to go for - you just need more of it. You need way more crit. You can get 7% Crit more only on Neck and at least ~8% more on both rings. I would try to get more Crit first. Just craft necklace and buy some cheap DPS only Rings.

As posted like 10 times before
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6471798208
still on of the best Newbie Guides.
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