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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
March 13 2013 19:53 GMT
#4021
On March 14 2013 03:54 spena wrote:
sold all my good monk gear to gear up my barb but Im still struggling in mp5 speed farming. What should be my next single upgrade?

Profile here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zero-12726/hero/30439268

crafted bracers can be muuch better than your current ones. basically the same stats as yours, but with 200 str more.
other than that, i dont think your gear is too bad.
that you are struggling on mp5 doesnt surprise me though, 130k dps is too low for that. if i were you, id try mp3 for the moment.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
March 13 2013 22:03 GMT
#4022
On March 14 2013 03:54 spena wrote:
sold all my good monk gear to gear up my barb but Im still struggling in mp5 speed farming. What should be my next single upgrade?

Profile here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zero-12726/hero/30439268

Better rings. Search for str, cc, ias, and average damage (for both).

On March 14 2013 04:15 ParanoiaDHerO wrote:
I see lots and lots of WW barbs, does no one play the throw barb in here? I just started playing again, and even with 101k dmg, I really enjoy the build.

It is fun indeed, but WT does too little damage to compete against WW or HOTA. Most of the WT builds use sprint/RLTW to compensate that.

Stefanovich
Profile Joined March 2013
United States26 Posts
March 13 2013 23:22 GMT
#4023
On March 14 2013 03:37 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 00:38 Stefanovich wrote:
Hey guys, I'm looking to upgrade my Barb. I haven't played in a little bit, and I'm looking around to try and see how outdated my build is.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Stefanovich-1900/hero/24032774

I am curious, first and foremost, as to how I should change my build to effectively farm and maximize damage output, and then also, which gear I need to upgrade most.

I don't have a very big bank, so I can't afford any 100 mil amulets or anything, but I am max crafting, so if there are any decent craftables, I could potentially pursue those.


for chars with low gear, the most cost-efficient build is the cookie-cutter sprint/ww build. for that build, you would have to modify some skills/runes:
whirlwind -> hurricane
battle rage -> into the fray
ignora pain should probably be replaced with warcry -> impunity


to the items:
your offhand is quite ok
your mainhand should have more dps. search for a mace or an axe with a socket and 1.1k dps. something like that should be quite cheap.

boots are good.
pants could be better, but are ok for now.
your right ring is quite bad. you should replace it with one that has high str, some average damage and crit chance. ('cc')
maybe a unity with str would be an option. without good additional mods, it wont be worth a lot.

belt is pure trash. get an IK belt with 180+ str. with no particularly good additional stat (like vita or 200+ str), these are quite cheap as well. this is an upgrade with high priority.

gloves: ok for now. by crafting, you could probably get an upgrade rather quickly.
bracers: you need additional 12% movementspeed, and lacuni prowlers are the best option to get that. they also offer attack speed, which is nice. get some lacunis with str, vita and allres or a good single res (physical or fire). without cc, lacunis are quite cheap.
chest armor: quite bad, but ok for now. just look on the auction house for one with 3 sockets, 80+ str, 160+ vita and 50+ allres. some extra armor would also be nice. such a chest armor should be rather cheap as well.

shoulders: ok for now, but crafting could bring an easy upgrade for cheap if you have some luck.
helm: maybe get ik helm with 150+ str instead. with bad stats otherwise, it is a cheap item. together with the ik belt, this yields a juicy 60 to allres.
amu: very bad. crafted amus can be very good and you will find an upgrade within the first 3 or so mil you spend on crafing amus.

an alternative would be to buy a cheap tyraels might with 170+ str and 150+ vita. (pay attention to the bonus to demons and elites - these are nice adds!)
then, you have covered your max movementspeed and can use crafted bracers instead of lacunis. crafted bracers can have 200+ str, vita, allres and cc by only hitting 3 right affixes out of 5 random ones. so the chances of finding an upgrade there are also very high.

keep in mind though that the new craft recipes all require demonic essences with cannot be traded. thus, you need to find all the essences needed for your crafting by yourself.

order of priority: mainhand, then ikbelt, then ik helm, then either tyraels might or lacunis for the movementspeed. then, id start crafting amulets, then shoulders/gloves and maybe bracers.


Ok. Awesome. I will start working on that. Thanks so much. Lots of good feed back.
TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 02:59:22
March 14 2013 02:55 GMT
#4024
Hi...

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TzTz-2611/hero/96926

Sitting on ~80m and lost on what to do. I'm really torn on wether to replace the IK pieces with non-set, or if I should search better set items in their place. I really like the 5 piece bonus for fury generation etc.

I'd mainly try to get my DPS up without sacrificing (much) survivability.

I didn't wanna craft amulet, because it doesn't bring you any benefit? You can already have > 300 str amulets that are not account bound.

I wanted to look for a better helmet maybe with armor, or allres. Nearly got one for 5 m, but got outbid.

Gonna craft more Vit shoulders, because I'd want the combo Vit+Str anyway, so chances for a good shoulder are better crafting Vit i think.

I think I'm gonna buy IK gloves with CD, alternatively craft str gloves, which would be more DPS, but as I said I'd like to keep the set.

The chest was 20m when I bought it, now you get much more vit for 20m. But survival is not too much of a problem atm, so that's not the biggest priority right now.

I'm not happy with the ring at all, but I can't seem to find affordable rare rings as upgrades. Maybe a Unity or a SoJ even (Running much with HotA recently because I think it's much better for group play, but HotA SoJs are expensive).

The hellfire ring sucks but I keep it till 100, maybe I get an upgrade sooner or later doing some ubers.

The pants could have much more str, but good rares again are hard to come by for reasonable price. Not too sure about legendary options?

For the boots I think I could get more str on them. Ice Climbers would cost me the set bonus.

Ofc weapons could always be upgraded. I don't wanna buy specifically WW offhand weapons because for HotA I need a offhand with good dps anyways.

So I'm just thinking about if keeping the set woudn't cost me too much. If I'd stick with 2 piece I could go for Ice Climbers and Crafted Gloves and maybe a tyrael's might or even a crafted Chest with 300 str if I get runspeed elsewhere.

Either way, what do you think should the priority list look like for upgrading? Which slot should I improve first? I think it's better to spend considerable amounts on single slots now, because then I won't have to replace them too soon again.
Lain1911
Profile Joined February 2013
United States17 Posts
March 14 2013 06:15 GMT
#4025
I've been liking a normal WW build with Hota instead of war cry or another extra ability.
nV[MB]
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland58 Posts
March 14 2013 10:39 GMT
#4026
On March 14 2013 11:55 TzTz wrote:I'm not happy with the ring at all, but I can't seem to find affordable rare rings as upgrades. Maybe a Unity or a SoJ even (Running much with HotA recently because I think it's much better for group play, but HotA SoJs are expensive).

The hellfire ring sucks but I keep it till 100, maybe I get an upgrade sooner or later doing some ubers.


If you do group play then I assume you do it on higher MP levels, so its not the most effective way of getting much exp anyway, perhaps it would be better to just drop the HF ring for a decent Unity, and go back to HF only when swapping to more exp-grinding oriented spec ?

As for SoJ, Id buy the cheapest cold one with +fury you can afford, regardless of the skill bonus.
Pibacc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada545 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 10:42:20
March 14 2013 10:40 GMT
#4027
So, I haven't played this game since around April or May 2012 but with all the desync in PoE I want to start playing d3 again whenever I'm bored. I Have no gear and a very very small budget. How much will it cost to get a barb up and farming inferno?

Feel free to add my battle tag if anyone in a similar situation wants to play together. Pibacc#1188
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
March 14 2013 10:54 GMT
#4028
If you know what to search for in AH, 2-300k gold is enough to gear up a decent barb. You can find a lot of (previously considered) good stuff at vendor price in free bid auction, like 180str/80vit/70ar shoulders and belt. Same for legendaries like Andariel, Fire Walkers, Strongarm Bracers.

Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
March 14 2013 12:45 GMT
#4029
On March 14 2013 11:55 TzTz wrote:
Hi...

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TzTz-2611/hero/96926

IK Helm with armor and 6%cc

Better IK chest (180+ str)

IK gloves with CD, you may find them with +armor or ~150 dex or int, to compensate for the loss of AR

Rings with str, ias, cc, average damage

Pants with 100+ str (lv63 if possibile)

IK boots with 150+ str

1100-1150dps EF with str and socket, search for +0.25aps

spena
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 19:41:17
March 14 2013 19:40 GMT
#4030
On March 14 2013 04:53 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 03:54 spena wrote:
sold all my good monk gear to gear up my barb but Im still struggling in mp5 speed farming. What should be my next single upgrade?

Profile here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zero-12726/hero/30439268

crafted bracers can be muuch better than your current ones. basically the same stats as yours, but with 200 str more.
other than that, i dont think your gear is too bad.
that you are struggling on mp5 doesnt surprise me though, 130k dps is too low for that. if i were you, id try mp3 for the moment.

thanks!
gold was been very slow atm and Im thinking i should try my luck for hellfires.

Can my current gear handle a HotA build? and what mp should I be solo farming keys and ubers at?
It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 21:02:35
March 14 2013 20:03 GMT
#4031
Hi everyone! I came back for my Barb after nearly one year of leaving him behind. I was the first batch of people that got to Act 3 Inferno with Barb when the game first came out(pre-nerf).
I have to wonder, how much they nerf inferno? Since with all my previous gears, the current inferno feel like "Nightmare" level.

I understand that inferno is nothing now, they add alot of stuff since the release, what is important right now? And where you go to farm your gear?
Terran
Pibacc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada545 Posts
March 14 2013 23:48 GMT
#4032
Which follower should I use as a ww/sprint barb?
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
March 15 2013 00:43 GMT
#4033
On March 15 2013 08:48 Pibacc wrote:
Which follower should I use as a ww/sprint barb?

If enchantress gets you to a breakpoint, then go with her. Otherwise scoundrel.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
March 18 2013 17:19 GMT
#4034
Any ideas as to why the price of 3CC mempos has gone up 100m in the last week?
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
March 18 2013 20:42 GMT
#4035
Because gold is losing value day after day in black market, so high end items are skyrocketing in GAH.

Calm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada380 Posts
March 25 2013 18:04 GMT
#4036
Time for me to ask for some help >.<

I see the 200k dps barbs, and I want to do that. Taking any and all suggestions, thanks a TON

Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Calm-1219/hero/21851853
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 18:21:57
March 25 2013 18:17 GMT
#4037
On March 26 2013 03:04 Calm wrote:
Time for me to ask for some help >.<

I see the 200k dps barbs, and I want to do that. Taking any and all suggestions, thanks a TON

Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Calm-1219/hero/21851853

the main reason for your low dps is that you are missing both cc and cd. first of all, by using a mighty weapon, you lose 10% crit chance from weapons master. you basically must use an axe or mace nowadays.

then your helm, while nice, is also completely lacking cc. imho mempo's without cc are not that great, particularly on a char that already has plenty of ias.

then your amulet is really lacking cd. amus in general are one of the best places to get some cd.
i would recommend to just craft some amus until you find one with 7.5+ cc and 50+ cd. that plus the guaranteed 200+ str should give a huge boost to your dps.

on top of that, your str is rather low overall as well. oh, and you are missing 24% movement speed.

edit: since you dont use full ik set anyway, having 4 pieces is basically a waste. my suggestion would be to replace your gloves with crafted ones. shouldnt take long until you craft some that have high cc, the guaranteed 200+ str and ias or cd. alternatively, you could get such gloves from the ah for a cheap price.

so if i were you, my priority would be the following: replace the mainhand with an axe or mace, then replace the amu, then replace the gloves and get 24% movementspeed.

edit2: even though i usually dont advocate slow offhands for sprint/ww barbs, your current mainhand has such good stats that you could consider using it as an offhand once you have replaced your mh.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Calm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada380 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 18:21:14
March 25 2013 18:20 GMT
#4038
On March 26 2013 03:17 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 03:04 Calm wrote:
Time for me to ask for some help >.<

I see the 200k dps barbs, and I want to do that. Taking any and all suggestions, thanks a TON

Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Calm-1219/hero/21851853

the main reason for your low dps is that you are missing both cc and cd. first of all, by using a mighty weapon, you lose 10% crit chance from weapons master. you basically must use an axe or mace nowadays.

then your helm, while nice, is also completely lacking cc. imho mempo's without cc are not that great, particularly on a char that already has plenty of ias.

then your amulet is really lacking cd. amus in general are one of the best places to get some cd.
i would recommend to just craft some amus until you find one with 7.5+ cc and 50+ cd. that plus the guaranteed 200+ str should give a huge boost to your dps.

on top of that, your str is rather low overall as well. oh, and you are missing 24% movement speed.


Totally didn't know about my weapon choice >.< I will fix that asaply.

Is there anything wrong with frenzy? Better choices these days?

Also, TYVM!
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 18:35:49
March 25 2013 18:35 GMT
#4039
On March 26 2013 03:20 Calm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 03:17 Black Gun wrote:
On March 26 2013 03:04 Calm wrote:
Time for me to ask for some help >.<

I see the 200k dps barbs, and I want to do that. Taking any and all suggestions, thanks a TON

Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Calm-1219/hero/21851853

the main reason for your low dps is that you are missing both cc and cd. first of all, by using a mighty weapon, you lose 10% crit chance from weapons master. you basically must use an axe or mace nowadays.

then your helm, while nice, is also completely lacking cc. imho mempo's without cc are not that great, particularly on a char that already has plenty of ias.

then your amulet is really lacking cd. amus in general are one of the best places to get some cd.
i would recommend to just craft some amus until you find one with 7.5+ cc and 50+ cd. that plus the guaranteed 200+ str should give a huge boost to your dps.

on top of that, your str is rather low overall as well. oh, and you are missing 24% movement speed.




Is there anything wrong with frenzy? Better choices these days?



nah, not really. whether to use frenzy or bash is basically personal preference. if you want to maximize your alkaizer runs to the limit, then bash is probably a tiny little bit stronger.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 20:57:32
March 25 2013 20:56 GMT
#4040
On March 26 2013 03:04 Calm wrote:
Time for me to ask for some help >.<

I see the 200k dps barbs, and I want to do that. Taking any and all suggestions, thanks a TON

Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Calm-1219/hero/21851853

First thing to do is gain some vitality on chest, BELT, pants, boots. That way you can buy IK gloves with cd or ias or just craft better ones.

Other than that, you need 24% movement speed, so Lacuni bracers or Inna's pants or Tyrael's Might.
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