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DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
February 24 2013 09:43 GMT
#4001
On February 24 2013 09:21 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 16:11 DODswe4 wrote:
On February 23 2013 15:56 Matoo- wrote:
Going back into the game tonight after not playing for a loooong time (stopped after the patch that made Inferno easier, forgot what version number that was). Haven't followed at all what happened to D3 since then, hope I'm still going to understand what's going on and not get blown up too hard with my shitty tank barb with 9k dps... just saw a screenshot in this thread of a guy with 370k holy shit. Probably gonna end up having to read all the patch notes since release. :[


well you dont need to go tank anymore. and 370k is alot, you can easily do mp7 with 100k unbuffed

I will never understand why somebody would torture themselves with higher MP's. I am at 215k unbuffed but dont dare go over mp5 because of how much longer things take to kill.


um I run mp 7 or 8 for key runs with skorn hota, takes 10-15min to get 5valor and kill keywarden. for farming you need much much higher dps to go that high in mp for it to be efficent
Adalet
Profile Joined October 2012
Bulgaria1 Post
February 25 2013 18:17 GMT
#4002
Hey guys, I have been playing d3 since 2 weeks(big noob) doing alkaizer runs have no gold but i want to know what should i spare money for i.e buy first:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Icy-2944/hero/25283689
Thx
Also what MP should i farm?
intHoLda
Profile Joined June 2010
Switzerland36 Posts
February 26 2013 11:09 GMT
#4003
On February 26 2013 03:17 Adalet wrote:
Hey guys, I have been playing d3 since 2 weeks(big noob) doing alkaizer runs have no gold but i want to know what should i spare money for i.e buy first:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Icy-2944/hero/25283689
Thx
Also what MP should i farm?


get an amulet with crit chance. ditch your chest piece and get a yellow one with similar stats and 3 sockets. those 2 upgrades should be pretty cheap.

now i would recommend you to stay on mp0 and use this build: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#ahcURQ!YWh!YZaZYZ

its pretty hard to maintain wrath of the berserk at low mp's so i choose rend an some fury gen passives. you will lose some dps but you won't really need them with the low monster health. i got this build from a popular streamer named cdxliv. here is a good vod about this build: http://de.twitch.tv/cdxliv/c/1747935
Capt. Jack Aubrey, «To wives and sweethearts. May they never meet.»
nV[MB]
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland58 Posts
February 26 2013 12:47 GMT
#4004
On February 26 2013 20:09 intHoLda wrote:now i would recommend you to stay on mp0 and use this build: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#ahcURQ!YWh!YZaZYZ

its pretty hard to maintain wrath of the berserk at low mp's so i choose rend an some fury gen passives. you will lose some dps but you won't really need them with the low monster health. i got this build from a popular streamer named cdxliv. here is a good vod about this build: http://de.twitch.tv/cdxliv/c/1747935


With proper gear this build works like a charm up to mp3-4 and can be arguably better than using WoTB.

You can also try swapping Killing Spree for Momentum, or War Cry: Charge, either one should be enough to keep perma sprint without the need for one of the fury regen passives.
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
February 28 2013 00:34 GMT
#4005
On February 23 2013 16:11 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 15:56 Matoo- wrote:
Going back into the game tonight after not playing for a loooong time (stopped after the patch that made Inferno easier, forgot what version number that was). Haven't followed at all what happened to D3 since then, hope I'm still going to understand what's going on and not get blown up too hard with my shitty tank barb with 9k dps... just saw a screenshot in this thread of a guy with 370k holy shit. Probably gonna end up having to read all the patch notes since release. :[


well you dont need to go tank anymore. and 370k is alot, you can easily do mp7 with 100k unbuffed

Yeah I've replayed inferno from start to finish on mp1, with much more offensive builds than last year (rend, ww, hota), and it was really fun! Dual wield hota is awesome. Boom boom boom boom boom.

I've got a Tyrael's Might with 15% dmg to demons, could anyone recommend a good run for that? I guess acts 3 & 4 should be the best?
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
February 28 2013 00:57 GMT
#4006
THERE'S AN ACT 4 IN THIS GAME?
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
February 28 2013 02:17 GMT
#4007
heh. I've done a fair bit of act iv since 1.07 was released, mostly 5 stacks to azmodan, then iskatu(sp?) and rakanoth for the plans. Both dropped them fairly regularly. After a few days I bought the plans I didn't already have for I think 50k gold total, lol.

I'm the benevolent dictator you've been looking for.
D2HLC
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands22 Posts
March 03 2013 17:46 GMT
#4008
Hey guys, got any suggestions on my gear upgrades? budget is 50m
armory profile
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
March 05 2013 21:32 GMT
#4009
I am lost on what my next possible upgrade could be.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TheRabidDeer-1465/hero/31291116
Should it be a crit mempo? Or is there something cheaper that I can get that would be better some place else?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 03:49:15
March 06 2013 03:45 GMT
#4010
On March 06 2013 06:32 TheRabidDeer wrote:
I am lost on what my next possible upgrade could be.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TheRabidDeer-1465/hero/31291116
Should it be a crit mempo? Or is there something cheaper that I can get that would be better some place else?



you wear an andariels with 12% increased fire damage and ask if a crit mempo is the next cheapest upgrade?

upgrades you could get:

- andys with same stats, but 5-7% fire dam. (thats a <1m upgrade...)
- unity with 4% bonus to elites and vita or allres (~ 10-20 mil)
- ik belt with vita on it. with your low base vita and the already rather high amount of life%, it would yield much more hps to have vita instead of life% on it. (~ 10-40 mil, depending on how much vita, if you want a popular skill bonus and also on some bidding luck...)
- a better echoing fury... 1125 dps with no crit is not thaaat great and shouldnt be thaaat costly to replace. (~ 100-150m for one with around 1200dps and a socket and str.)
- on your ik chest, you could get quite some more vita. (one with 150 str and 180 or so vita can be obtained for ~ 90-150m.)

if i were you, i would think about a crit mempo once these upgrades have been bought - not a minute earlier. although i have to admit that im not sure if crit mempo are as excruciatingly expensive on US as they are on EU. good ones on EU go for something like 400m+....
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
March 06 2013 05:21 GMT
#4011
On March 06 2013 12:45 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 06:32 TheRabidDeer wrote:
I am lost on what my next possible upgrade could be.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TheRabidDeer-1465/hero/31291116
Should it be a crit mempo? Or is there something cheaper that I can get that would be better some place else?



you wear an andariels with 12% increased fire damage and ask if a crit mempo is the next cheapest upgrade?

upgrades you could get:

- andys with same stats, but 5-7% fire dam. (thats a <1m upgrade...)
- unity with 4% bonus to elites and vita or allres (~ 10-20 mil)
- ik belt with vita on it. with your low base vita and the already rather high amount of life%, it would yield much more hps to have vita instead of life% on it. (~ 10-40 mil, depending on how much vita, if you want a popular skill bonus and also on some bidding luck...)
- a better echoing fury... 1125 dps with no crit is not thaaat great and shouldnt be thaaat costly to replace. (~ 100-150m for one with around 1200dps and a socket and str.)
- on your ik chest, you could get quite some more vita. (one with 150 str and 180 or so vita can be obtained for ~ 90-150m.)

if i were you, i would think about a crit mempo once these upgrades have been bought - not a minute earlier. although i have to admit that im not sure if crit mempo are as excruciatingly expensive on US as they are on EU. good ones on EU go for something like 400m+....

Thanks, will definitely check that out

I will probably stick with my old IK belt since I will be picking up a lot more vita through those items (and I still have 70 paragon to go for another chunk more) and I like the frenzy bonus for when I am going HotA.

At first glance through the AH it looks like:
unity will run ~30 mil with vit (+4600 hp but minus2600 dmg)
EF at 1200 will be ~100 mil (+6500 dmg)
Chest will probably also be about 4600 hp at 100 mil

This should leave me with a bit of money to save up for a crit mempo, or should I even consider a mempo without crit as a stepping stone? Sometimes it feels like my AR is low
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 05:35:25
March 06 2013 05:33 GMT
#4012
On March 06 2013 14:21 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 12:45 Black Gun wrote:
On March 06 2013 06:32 TheRabidDeer wrote:
I am lost on what my next possible upgrade could be.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TheRabidDeer-1465/hero/31291116
Should it be a crit mempo? Or is there something cheaper that I can get that would be better some place else?



you wear an andariels with 12% increased fire damage and ask if a crit mempo is the next cheapest upgrade?

upgrades you could get:

- andys with same stats, but 5-7% fire dam. (thats a <1m upgrade...)
- unity with 4% bonus to elites and vita or allres (~ 10-20 mil)
- ik belt with vita on it. with your low base vita and the already rather high amount of life%, it would yield much more hps to have vita instead of life% on it. (~ 10-40 mil, depending on how much vita, if you want a popular skill bonus and also on some bidding luck...)
- a better echoing fury... 1125 dps with no crit is not thaaat great and shouldnt be thaaat costly to replace. (~ 100-150m for one with around 1200dps and a socket and str.)
- on your ik chest, you could get quite some more vita. (one with 150 str and 180 or so vita can be obtained for ~ 90-150m.)

if i were you, i would think about a crit mempo once these upgrades have been bought - not a minute earlier. although i have to admit that im not sure if crit mempo are as excruciatingly expensive on US as they are on EU. good ones on EU go for something like 400m+....

Thanks, will definitely check that out

I will probably stick with my old IK belt since I will be picking up a lot more vita through those items (and I still have 70 paragon to go for another chunk more) and I like the frenzy bonus for when I am going HotA.

At first glance through the AH it looks like:
unity will run ~30 mil with vit (+4600 hp but minus2600 dmg)
EF at 1200 will be ~100 mil (+6500 dmg)
Chest will probably also be about 4600 hp at 100 mil

This should leave me with a bit of money to save up for a crit mempo, or should I even consider a mempo without crit as a stepping stone? Sometimes it feels like my AR is low



hmm, maybe you should get a unity with allres instead of vita then. for 30 mil, you can get one with 60 or so allres, which should be a significantly bigger boost to your ehp than 90ish vita. if you can get a noncrit mempo for cheap, it is no bad idea. i personally am, however, no fan of them. the cc you lose will make fury generation a larger issue...

just fyi: 2 days ago, i sniped a unity with 4% bonus to elites, 165 str, 24-49 avg dam and 79 allres (!) for 13m.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 07:46:09
March 06 2013 07:03 GMT
#4013
On March 06 2013 14:33 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 14:21 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On March 06 2013 12:45 Black Gun wrote:
On March 06 2013 06:32 TheRabidDeer wrote:
I am lost on what my next possible upgrade could be.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TheRabidDeer-1465/hero/31291116
Should it be a crit mempo? Or is there something cheaper that I can get that would be better some place else?



you wear an andariels with 12% increased fire damage and ask if a crit mempo is the next cheapest upgrade?

upgrades you could get:

- andys with same stats, but 5-7% fire dam. (thats a <1m upgrade...)
- unity with 4% bonus to elites and vita or allres (~ 10-20 mil)
- ik belt with vita on it. with your low base vita and the already rather high amount of life%, it would yield much more hps to have vita instead of life% on it. (~ 10-40 mil, depending on how much vita, if you want a popular skill bonus and also on some bidding luck...)
- a better echoing fury... 1125 dps with no crit is not thaaat great and shouldnt be thaaat costly to replace. (~ 100-150m for one with around 1200dps and a socket and str.)
- on your ik chest, you could get quite some more vita. (one with 150 str and 180 or so vita can be obtained for ~ 90-150m.)

if i were you, i would think about a crit mempo once these upgrades have been bought - not a minute earlier. although i have to admit that im not sure if crit mempo are as excruciatingly expensive on US as they are on EU. good ones on EU go for something like 400m+....

Thanks, will definitely check that out

I will probably stick with my old IK belt since I will be picking up a lot more vita through those items (and I still have 70 paragon to go for another chunk more) and I like the frenzy bonus for when I am going HotA.

At first glance through the AH it looks like:
unity will run ~30 mil with vit (+4600 hp but minus2600 dmg)
EF at 1200 will be ~100 mil (+6500 dmg)
Chest will probably also be about 4600 hp at 100 mil

This should leave me with a bit of money to save up for a crit mempo, or should I even consider a mempo without crit as a stepping stone? Sometimes it feels like my AR is low



hmm, maybe you should get a unity with allres instead of vita then. for 30 mil, you can get one with 60 or so allres, which should be a significantly bigger boost to your ehp than 90ish vita. if you can get a noncrit mempo for cheap, it is no bad idea. i personally am, however, no fan of them. the cc you lose will make fury generation a larger issue...

just fyi: 2 days ago, i sniped a unity with 4% bonus to elites, 165 str, 24-49 avg dam and 79 allres (!) for 13m.

The only all res one that wont cause me to lose a ton more dmg only has 18 all res =[
If I drop about 5k more dmg I can pick up more resists though.

EDIT: And I am not too too worried about fury generation since I am at 61.5% with just scoundrel
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 20:48:42
March 07 2013 20:40 GMT
#4014
hi guys, i posted my barb some weeks ago. since then, i was able to get most of the upgrades i had intended back then, here it is:

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BlackXistenZ-2929/hero/3406592

my problem now is that i have a budget of about 50-80m and really dont know which item i should upgrade next. ofc, i could dump the pickup radius on the boots or shoulders and get 40-100 more str in exchange. i could also try to craft vit shoulders, hoping for the 260+ str/300 vita roll, but i think it would be very unlikely for any crafted shoulders to beat my current ones. same goes for gloves: the expected amount of gold i had to dump into crafting gloves that beat my current ones would most likely exceed my funds...

the obvious upgrade would be crit lacunis with str, but they are so insanely expensive.... the hellfire ring isnt too great, but i cant replace it before i hit 100, which given my limited time to play will take some more weeks...
in the superlong run, i will want a crit mempo, but thats out of reach atm.
i think the weapons are hard to improve as well, at least with my budget. same goes for belt and helm i guess....

overall, im really puzzled. better ice climbers are probably the next upgrade, but then? any ideas or suggestions?


edit: another idea i just had is to get innas pants with some 50+ str. then, i could replace my lacunis with crafted bracers with 250 str and so on. with 250 str/ 80-120ish vita/40+ allres/5+ cc bracers, this would mean that i trade some vita, armor and res for about 100-150 additional str plus the 1%cc from innas pants... but im not thaaat convinced by this option either tbh.

"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Turin
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany72 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 22:52:11
March 07 2013 22:51 GMT
#4015
I'd spent the money on gloves. Should not be too hard to roll an upgrade there with the strength recipe. You basically only need a halfway decent crit chance/attackspeed roll and the randoms + higher base strength should do the trick. Alternatively work your way up to Radiant Star emeralds for a safe upgrade.

Oh and biggest free upgrade would be to replace warcry with overpower/killing spree and instigation with the punish rune.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 23:25:06
March 07 2013 23:24 GMT
#4016
In general, you can give up a bit of vitality. Hopefully you'll put an amethyst in your helm soon.

As you know, chest/bracers/pants/boots are all linked together by where you choose to put the movement speed in. So I'll just give some generic suggestions below.
For reference, I always used boots/bracers until a couple days ago when I crafted nice dps bracers as you can see in my profile (http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709), so I sold the Lacuni and bought nearly perfect AR Inna's pants. i gave up 8k hp total, but atm I don't care much (played very rarely after lv100).
Anyway I'd be a bit esitant to choose chest/pants since you lose too much potential vitality.


Helm: short-term options with a tradeoff: IK helm with 200+ str, no vit; or IK helm with armor/AR, no vit. Long term: Ik helm with vit and 200+str, Mempo with cc.

Shoulders: relatively easy to replace, you can gain ~50str with no more than 20mil. There is one in AH right now, 250str/72vit/70ar/9%life for 10mil.

Ammy: ok

Chest: If you want to keep Tyrael's Might, the only options I would consider are 250str/70vit (one in free bid auction @6mil right now) or 3 sockets.

Bracers: yeah lacuni with str and cc are expensive, nothing more to say.

Gloves: hmmm nothing spectacular here, gaining dps is expensive but survivability should be easy. Maybe same stats +AR, or Tasker and Theo with ias/cc. Crafting should be an option as well.

Belt: some more strength.

Rings: well, cd/ias on Unity instead of AR.

Pants: ok

Boots: yeah you can have better ones for 20mil I guess.

Weapons: ok
Stefanovich
Profile Joined March 2013
United States26 Posts
March 13 2013 15:38 GMT
#4017
Hey guys, I'm looking to upgrade my Barb. I haven't played in a little bit, and I'm looking around to try and see how outdated my build is.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Stefanovich-1900/hero/24032774

I am curious, first and foremost, as to how I should change my build to effectively farm and maximize damage output, and then also, which gear I need to upgrade most.

I don't have a very big bank, so I can't afford any 100 mil amulets or anything, but I am max crafting, so if there are any decent craftables, I could potentially pursue those.

Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
March 13 2013 18:37 GMT
#4018
On March 14 2013 00:38 Stefanovich wrote:
Hey guys, I'm looking to upgrade my Barb. I haven't played in a little bit, and I'm looking around to try and see how outdated my build is.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Stefanovich-1900/hero/24032774

I am curious, first and foremost, as to how I should change my build to effectively farm and maximize damage output, and then also, which gear I need to upgrade most.

I don't have a very big bank, so I can't afford any 100 mil amulets or anything, but I am max crafting, so if there are any decent craftables, I could potentially pursue those.


for chars with low gear, the most cost-efficient build is the cookie-cutter sprint/ww build. for that build, you would have to modify some skills/runes:
whirlwind -> hurricane
battle rage -> into the fray
ignora pain should probably be replaced with warcry -> impunity


to the items:
your offhand is quite ok
your mainhand should have more dps. search for a mace or an axe with a socket and 1.1k dps. something like that should be quite cheap.

boots are good.
pants could be better, but are ok for now.
your right ring is quite bad. you should replace it with one that has high str, some average damage and crit chance. ('cc')
maybe a unity with str would be an option. without good additional mods, it wont be worth a lot.

belt is pure trash. get an IK belt with 180+ str. with no particularly good additional stat (like vita or 200+ str), these are quite cheap as well. this is an upgrade with high priority.

gloves: ok for now. by crafting, you could probably get an upgrade rather quickly.
bracers: you need additional 12% movementspeed, and lacuni prowlers are the best option to get that. they also offer attack speed, which is nice. get some lacunis with str, vita and allres or a good single res (physical or fire). without cc, lacunis are quite cheap.
chest armor: quite bad, but ok for now. just look on the auction house for one with 3 sockets, 80+ str, 160+ vita and 50+ allres. some extra armor would also be nice. such a chest armor should be rather cheap as well.

shoulders: ok for now, but crafting could bring an easy upgrade for cheap if you have some luck.
helm: maybe get ik helm with 150+ str instead. with bad stats otherwise, it is a cheap item. together with the ik belt, this yields a juicy 60 to allres.
amu: very bad. crafted amus can be very good and you will find an upgrade within the first 3 or so mil you spend on crafing amus.

an alternative would be to buy a cheap tyraels might with 170+ str and 150+ vita. (pay attention to the bonus to demons and elites - these are nice adds!)
then, you have covered your max movementspeed and can use crafted bracers instead of lacunis. crafted bracers can have 200+ str, vita, allres and cc by only hitting 3 right affixes out of 5 random ones. so the chances of finding an upgrade there are also very high.

keep in mind though that the new craft recipes all require demonic essences with cannot be traded. thus, you need to find all the essences needed for your crafting by yourself.

order of priority: mainhand, then ikbelt, then ik helm, then either tyraels might or lacunis for the movementspeed. then, id start crafting amulets, then shoulders/gloves and maybe bracers.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
spena
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada116 Posts
March 13 2013 18:54 GMT
#4019
sold all my good monk gear to gear up my barb but Im still struggling in mp5 speed farming. What should be my next single upgrade?

Profile here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zero-12726/hero/30439268
It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire.
ParanoiaDHerO
Profile Joined July 2009
United States183 Posts
March 13 2013 19:15 GMT
#4020
I see lots and lots of WW barbs, does no one play the throw barb in here? I just started playing again, and even with 101k dmg, I really enjoy the build.
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