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On August 28 2012 17:26 Mithhaike wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 28 2012 17:18 Hairy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 16:34 Mithhaike wrote:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Haike-1482/hero/105268Help for me please , i've upgraded my gear pretty significantly from before. Any tips on how to further improve my damage from the guys here? I'm thinking to grab a Tyreal's Might for the increase movement speed...maybe andariel for the poison nova. Decisions decisions...i have 30m to spend. What do you guys think i should do? Looking pretty good. I would recommend: - Definitely replace your mainhand weapon as a first priority. A 1100 DPS blue weapon, with absolutely no stats, is going to give you 25%(!) more damage overall. The only issue is your LOH would be uncomfortably low without it... I would look to regain some in other item slots.
- Andariel's Visage is lovely. I can only recommend this. Make sure to get one with a high proc chance.
- Your bracers suck. Should be easy to replace with better ones.
I'd sooner replace a bunch of other items than get Tyrael's Might; your chestpiece is already very nice, and other items will give you a much more substantial boost. precise my thoughts. my LOH are all from both my weapons, finding a decently high dps LOH weapon is pretty expensive, and i would need at least 100vit on it so not to go lower than my current 37k HP. Im thinking to replace both rings tho. Andariels visage? k i shall check it out on US SC AH tonight. I have 30m to gear up, so im looking for most cost effective items. All in all, replace bracer & helm?
Nice gear man, if you replace your mainhand for higher dps without LOH, I would probably look to replace some of that with a LOH amulet, if you can get 350 ish LOH amulet I think your survivability would still be fine, of course not cheap (I have 450 LOH and 80vitality on my ammie).
If you really want more life max vitality rolls off chest, pants and amie at 300 for armour pieces. But you do have quite a few pieces which doesnt have vitality. If you are replacing rings then try to get some with vitality if you are having some problems surviving.
I have Andriels also, I farm alot with friends and kind of carry the group, when you get molten and fire based champ packs you will take more damage due to the really gay stat it rolls with being +% more fire damage taken, which is not cool especially when molten is everywhere and you're ww through firechains and taking fire shots. But with enough survivability I went for it to gain a big dps increase. Just try to get one with lower percentage fire damage taken. You will also lose a bit of all resist but you will gain the attack speed and crit on andariels, along with some life regen which are sweet stats.
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I've been going back to using overpower with my WW build since last night. The trick isn't so much to do act 3 with overpower as normal, but rather to take advantage of the massive increase in survivability to drop survivability in your current gear.
So far this has allowed me to wear a few pieces of MF gear while farming act 3, while having only 350 resist all.
Last night, I was also experimenting with using Cain's set, by killing only trash mobs as quickly as possible while skipping elites. Overpower was necessary to keep myself alive, since Cain's set has absolutely garbage stats. I was able to make over 10 million XP in just under 20 minutes.
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So i updated some pieces last night,
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kazeyonoma-1662/hero/14226
got my loh back up to 1400 or so, my health is up to 37k now, still gunning for 41-45k if i can. replaced my old bulkathos with a newer one that had crit chance on it, replaced my bracers with a decent strongarm bracers, replaced my other ring with one that had crit chance and focused mostly on getting my life up (hence no str, but vit AND %life)
Think my helm will be the next thing to replace, i need to farm pretty hard though to get enough to buy a decent andariels, but I'm worried my AR will drop too long doing so. I can kill stuff in act 3, but I occasionally just drop dead from damage and I have to believe it's because my AR/defensive stats aren't sufficient, but I'm okay with being a bit of a glass cannon (it beats mindnumblingly boring act 1 farming) Not sure if I should replace my kymbo's gold for anything, everything seems way overpriced right now, and it is giving me some decent LOH, life%, and str. I know crit would be ideal, but those cost way more than I'd be able to afford right now. Any other ideas for gear upgrades? I saw a weapon upgrade or two, but they come in the 5mill+ range, for marginal upgrades in dps, mostly just to ditch the extraneous stats of dex/int i have, to get vit, and/or crit damage. searching for 1hand axe, str, vit, loh > 500, and sorting by dps maxes out around 970 or so for my price range, and felt it just wasn't worth the investment to see marginal gains.
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On August 29 2012 04:57 Kazeyonoma wrote:So i updated some pieces last night, http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kazeyonoma-1662/hero/14226got my loh back up to 1400 or so, my health is up to 37k now, still gunning for 41-45k if i can. replaced my old bulkathos with a newer one that had crit chance on it, replaced my bracers with a decent strongarm bracers, replaced my other ring with one that had crit chance and focused mostly on getting my life up (hence no str, but vit AND %life) Think my helm will be the next thing to replace, i need to farm pretty hard though to get enough to buy a decent andariels, but I'm worried my AR will drop too long doing so. I can kill stuff in act 3, but I occasionally just drop dead from damage and I have to believe it's because my AR/defensive stats aren't sufficient, but I'm okay with being a bit of a glass cannon (it beats mindnumblingly boring act 1 farming) Not sure if I should replace my kymbo's gold for anything, everything seems way overpriced right now, and it is giving me some decent LOH, life%, and str. I know crit would be ideal, but those cost way more than I'd be able to afford right now. Any other ideas for gear upgrades? I saw a weapon upgrade or two, but they come in the 5mill+ range, for marginal upgrades in dps, mostly just to ditch the extraneous stats of dex/int i have, to get vit, and/or crit damage. searching for 1hand axe, str, vit, loh > 500, and sorting by dps maxes out around 970 or so for my price range, and felt it just wasn't worth the investment to see marginal gains.
i noticed your boots have no movespeed, for the WW build movespeed is an incredible stat, i moved up from 9% to 12% on my boots and noticed a huge difference. which is why lacunis are probably next on my wishlist
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On August 29 2012 04:57 Kazeyonoma wrote:So i updated some pieces last night, http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kazeyonoma-1662/hero/14226got my loh back up to 1400 or so, my health is up to 37k now, still gunning for 41-45k if i can. replaced my old bulkathos with a newer one that had crit chance on it, replaced my bracers with a decent strongarm bracers, replaced my other ring with one that had crit chance and focused mostly on getting my life up (hence no str, but vit AND %life) Think my helm will be the next thing to replace, i need to farm pretty hard though to get enough to buy a decent andariels, but I'm worried my AR will drop too long doing so. I can kill stuff in act 3, but I occasionally just drop dead from damage and I have to believe it's because my AR/defensive stats aren't sufficient, but I'm okay with being a bit of a glass cannon (it beats mindnumblingly boring act 1 farming) Not sure if I should replace my kymbo's gold for anything, everything seems way overpriced right now, and it is giving me some decent LOH, life%, and str. I know crit would be ideal, but those cost way more than I'd be able to afford right now. Any other ideas for gear upgrades? I saw a weapon upgrade or two, but they come in the 5mill+ range, for marginal upgrades in dps, mostly just to ditch the extraneous stats of dex/int i have, to get vit, and/or crit damage. searching for 1hand axe, str, vit, loh > 500, and sorting by dps maxes out around 970 or so for my price range, and felt it just wasn't worth the investment to see marginal gains.
All that %Life you're running is wasted without a solid VIT foundation. Also, it seems to me that you're getting the wrong stats in the wrong slots. Some slots favor certain stats, which makes them cheaper than having that same stat in another piece.
What jumped out at me was the low STR on your belt, and no VIT. The AR on it is awesome, but is it really worth missing out on 250+ STR and 100+ VIT? Even if you get a belt with 0 AR, you could easily make it back up on your bracers if you drop 50-100 STR from them, and still have a net gain of both VIT and STR.
I also think the body could be better if you drop some STR and make it up in a 3rd socket while also picking up some VIT and higher AR (Body with STR, VIT, AR, 3 Sockets).
Your gloves are the same way. Offensive stats are cheaper on gloves because people craft the hell out of them and the market is saturated. Ideally, you want CC, IAS, CD, and STR on gloves. If you absolutely can't stand to drop the AR or VIT, then I'd say the CD is easiest to give up, as it is a pure damage stat whereas everything else contributes to survivability/sustainability. Also, 4.5% Crit is way too low on Gloves. They can get up to 10%, which means the stat doesn't start to get expensive till around 8%+.
I wanna say your LOH is a bit overkill. I would drop it from the Amulet and get something with 7-8% Crit, STR and VIT and either IAS or CD if you can afford it.
Oh, and your pants have much room for improvement. You could probably get all of those same stats + 2 sockets for fairly cheap.
Regarding everything I've posted above: What's cheap for one person might be a fortune for someone else. Generally, I consider a piece cheap if it's under 1m since I can farm that up in A1 in a few hours even without any sellable drops (in other words, just from gold pickup and vendoring blues and bad yellows, or selling Essences if that's what you do). Some people who farm A3 with ease might consider 5m cheap, or sometimes even 10m if they're constantly finding high-end loot to sell. With 1m per slot MAX (probably much cheaper), and some knowledge of which stats to look for in which slot, I think you could improve at least a few things.
Edit: Oh, and about your weapons, you should be able to get an offhand with 900+ LOH and drop it from your mainhand altogether, which should make it easy for you to get a ~1k mainhand with socket and at least some stats for a net gain in damage. Also, if you switch your offhand to dagger for lower average attack speed, your LOH will go further (which means it won't hurt as much to lose some).
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Do barbs still run String of Ears? I picked up a really nice one yesterday.
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/trinxified-1614/hero/2139049
This is my VERY final gear setup. I've got no more gold, and I don't think I'm going to be playing too much after. I keep posting here because I really want to show it off lol... Very proud of my setup.
I'm well balanced everywhere. Almost 100k DPS, using a WW/Sprint Barb, not buffed with WotB, only with Warcry and Battle Rage. 8000 armor, 800 AR, 63k HP with Amethyst, 51% CC, 556% CD, 1130 LoH
P.S. - Anybody got a better Sage's Grasp for me??
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On August 29 2012 12:43 trinxified wrote:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/trinxified-1614/hero/2139049This is my VERY final gear setup. I've got no more gold, and I don't think I'm going to be playing too much after. I keep posting here because I really want to show it off lol... Very proud of my setup. I'm well balanced everywhere. Almost 100k DPS, using a WW/Sprint Barb, not buffed with WotB, only with Warcry and Battle Rage. 8000 armor, 800 AR, 63k HP with Amethyst, 51% CC, 556% CD, 1130 LoH P.S. - Anybody got a better Sage's Grasp for me??
How can you stand not having any pickup range? I accidentally got down to 0 once upon replacing a piece, and it was unbearable...
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On August 29 2012 12:52 Sylvr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 12:43 trinxified wrote:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/trinxified-1614/hero/2139049This is my VERY final gear setup. I've got no more gold, and I don't think I'm going to be playing too much after. I keep posting here because I really want to show it off lol... Very proud of my setup. I'm well balanced everywhere. Almost 100k DPS, using a WW/Sprint Barb, not buffed with WotB, only with Warcry and Battle Rage. 8000 armor, 800 AR, 63k HP with Amethyst, 51% CC, 556% CD, 1130 LoH P.S. - Anybody got a better Sage's Grasp for me?? How can you stand not having any pickup range? I accidentally got down to 0 once upon replacing a piece, and it was unbearable...
Yeah me too!!! I had a 7 yard pickup radius on my chest earlier but I forgot about it when I upgraded.  I can't stand it either. Oh well.
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So I just tried the double tornado build, seems kinda fun, but I think my sword and board with rend instead of battle rage actually kills shit faster for me. Kind of confused.
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On August 29 2012 15:19 hunts wrote:
So I just tried the double tornado build, seems kinda fun, but I think my sword and board with rend instead of battle rage actually kills shit faster for me. Kind of confused.
If I were to hazard a guess, the problem is probably due to that you're playing the whirlwind build the "same" as your shield build; i.e. you're going through the map and trying to kill everything off, even mobs that are pretty much alone.
The strength of the sprint build is that you can just run past the crap stuff. Only stop running to kill elite packs or juicy large groups of mobs; everything else you just ignore. Just snatch up the loot (even with enemies left alive hitting you) and keep running! 
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On August 29 2012 12:43 trinxified wrote:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/trinxified-1614/hero/2139049This is my VERY final gear setup. I've got no more gold, and I don't think I'm going to be playing too much after. I keep posting here because I really want to show it off lol... Very proud of my setup. I'm well balanced everywhere. Almost 100k DPS, using a WW/Sprint Barb, not buffed with WotB, only with Warcry and Battle Rage. 8000 armor, 800 AR, 63k HP with Amethyst, 51% CC, 556% CD, 1130 LoH P.S. - Anybody got a better Sage's Grasp for me??
How can you stop at 98k DPS without changing a few bits of gear to get 100k+? :D There's no way I could stop short so close of that completely arbitrary number. Go pick up an Andariel's Visage and you'll be there!
I'm also at 0 pickup range (I have been for weeks)... I never realised how good pickup range was until I lost all of it. Just a few yards extra clearly makes everything a lot nicer. I just assumed I would regain it at some point through gear changes, but that doesn't seem to have happened.
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I'm a WW/sprint barb primarily, and I have a consideration to make that I could use some help with, as a decent strength Skorn dropped for me. It boosts my damage significantly, but I lose out on MF.
For damage comparison: with 2h I'm killing azmodan in 13 s with wotb, 21s without. With the dual wield and wotb it's 22s. The fury loss/loss of perma-wotb isn't really a problem as the damage increase is mostly in WW and overpower which makes ranged mobs a lot easier and faster to kill which for me offsets the loss in movespeed (doing my run is slightly faster with 2h)
However the crux is I have to switch a few items as the 2h didn't have any LS or LoH, so my MF (before NV) drops to 166 from 263. Is this too large of a drop to justify the dps increase? i survive just fine either way
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On August 29 2012 17:41 Hairy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 29 2012 12:43 trinxified wrote:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/trinxified-1614/hero/2139049This is my VERY final gear setup. I've got no more gold, and I don't think I'm going to be playing too much after. I keep posting here because I really want to show it off lol... Very proud of my setup. I'm well balanced everywhere. Almost 100k DPS, using a WW/Sprint Barb, not buffed with WotB, only with Warcry and Battle Rage. 8000 armor, 800 AR, 63k HP with Amethyst, 51% CC, 556% CD, 1130 LoH P.S. - Anybody got a better Sage's Grasp for me?? How can you stop at 98k DPS without changing a few bits of gear to get 100k+? :D There's no way I could stop short so close of that completely arbitrary number. Go pick up an Andariel's Visage and you'll be there! I'm also at 0 pickup range (I have been for weeks)... I never realised how good pickup range was until I lost all of it. Just a few yards extra clearly makes everything a lot nicer. I just assumed I would regain it at some point through gear changes, but that doesn't seem to have happened.
I agree, bro how can you stop so close to 3 figures, madness. I want your next post to say 100k DPS WW barb otherwise don''t post again  jokes.
Is pick-up radius really that good? ... i''ve never had it so i guess i don''t know what i''m missing out on.
Whirlwind barb guys, ...commmon guys, .... most mobility ever, is pick-up really really that good?, i suppose i can just go and buy some garbage gear with it to see for myself, but then i don''t want that feeling of not having something i want.
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On August 29 2012 17:58 Nudelfisk wrote:
I'm a WW/sprint barb primarily, and I have a consideration to make that I could use some help with, as a decent strength Skorn dropped for me. It boosts my damage significantly, but I lose out on MF.
For damage comparison: with 2h I'm killing azmodan in 13 s with wotb, 21s without. With the dual wield and wotb it's 22s. The fury loss/loss of perma-wotb isn't really a problem as the damage increase is mostly in WW and overpower which makes ranged mobs a lot easier and faster to kill which for me offsets the loss in movespeed (doing my run is slightly faster with 2h)
However the crux is I have to switch a few items as the 2h didn't have any LS or LoH, so my MF (before NV) drops to 166 from 263. Is this too large of a drop to justify the dps increase? i survive just fine either way
All i know is I run with hardly any (12% on belt) MF, and i have found 4 legendaries, and at least a dozen really good items which have sold for millions and millions since 1.04. And i work full time and play sparingly. But maybe I''ve just been lucky.
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On August 29 2012 18:00 crisiscore wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 17:41 Hairy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 29 2012 12:43 trinxified wrote:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/trinxified-1614/hero/2139049This is my VERY final gear setup. I've got no more gold, and I don't think I'm going to be playing too much after. I keep posting here because I really want to show it off lol... Very proud of my setup. I'm well balanced everywhere. Almost 100k DPS, using a WW/Sprint Barb, not buffed with WotB, only with Warcry and Battle Rage. 8000 armor, 800 AR, 63k HP with Amethyst, 51% CC, 556% CD, 1130 LoH P.S. - Anybody got a better Sage's Grasp for me?? How can you stop at 98k DPS without changing a few bits of gear to get 100k+? :D There's no way I could stop short so close of that completely arbitrary number. Go pick up an Andariel's Visage and you'll be there! I'm also at 0 pickup range (I have been for weeks)... I never realised how good pickup range was until I lost all of it. Just a few yards extra clearly makes everything a lot nicer. I just assumed I would regain it at some point through gear changes, but that doesn't seem to have happened. I agree, bro how can you stop so close to 3 figures, madness. I want your next post to say 100k DPS WW barb otherwise don''t post again jokes. Is pick-up radius really that good? ... i''ve never had it so i guess i don''t know what i''m missing out on. Whirlwind barb guys, ...commmon guys, .... most mobility ever, is pick-up really really that good?, i suppose i can just go and buy some garbage gear with it to see for myself, but then i don''t want that feeling of not having something i want.
I don't have any either, and for me it's just super annoying seeing all those piles of 1700 gold lying around and having to skip them not wanting to waste time on your WotB!
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I'm currently 40k hp and 650-700 all res unbuffed (WW Barb), could I afford to drop 65 res and 2k life for 9% ias? I figure I get more life due to the higher attack rate, but mobs with multiple AoE effects could get harder.
Also if anyone would give me an advice what to buy next I'd appritiate that, I can only afford 1-2 real upgrades to my gear atm >.<. Would love movement speed but I'd have to sac so many stats to be able to afford that ( http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Metatron-2965/hero/7991630 ).
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On August 29 2012 20:42 CruelZeratul wrote:I'm currently 40k hp and 650-700 all res unbuffed (WW Barb), could I afford to drop 65 res and 2k life for 9% ias? I figure I get more life due to the higher attack rate, but mobs with multiple AoE effects could get harder. Also if anyone would give me an advice what to buy next I'd appritiate that, I can only afford 1-2 real upgrades to my gear atm >.<. Would love movement speed but I'd have to sac so many stats to be able to afford that ( http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Metatron-2965/hero/7991630 ).
I dropped my helm for an andariels with no res the other day which put me back at 600 AR. I survive just fine. My LoH is around 1100 and my armor is smth like 6k. My damage went way up (the proc + 9% IAS + more str), in my experience it was worth it.
EDIT - around 35k hp
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On August 29 2012 12:53 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 12:52 Sylvr wrote:On August 29 2012 12:43 trinxified wrote:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/trinxified-1614/hero/2139049This is my VERY final gear setup. I've got no more gold, and I don't think I'm going to be playing too much after. I keep posting here because I really want to show it off lol... Very proud of my setup. I'm well balanced everywhere. Almost 100k DPS, using a WW/Sprint Barb, not buffed with WotB, only with Warcry and Battle Rage. 8000 armor, 800 AR, 63k HP with Amethyst, 51% CC, 556% CD, 1130 LoH P.S. - Anybody got a better Sage's Grasp for me?? How can you stand not having any pickup range? I accidentally got down to 0 once upon replacing a piece, and it was unbearable... Yeah me too!!! I had a 7 yard pickup radius on my chest earlier but I forgot about it when I upgraded. I can't stand it either. Oh well.
When I still played my DH, I had pickup radius on every possible item (quite by accident) and it was really awesome.
You can kill mobs a screen away an still pick up their gold.
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On August 28 2012 23:47 Hairy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 23:21 Razith wrote:Okay so I've tried on my own for a while but I've never played ARPG's before, or any Diablo's, so maybe I just don't get how to gear properly in these games. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mercury-1389/hero/3272982Trying for a WW build; if I can get things up and running I can do okay, but I still die a hell of a lot and getting the WW going is really difficult. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. No budget (< 1 million); been farming for days and haven't found anything worth selling. Your crit chance is really low... ~35%? It's hard to tell from these bnet profiles. You need more crit; it will make everything a lot easier. You have no crit on your helm, bracers, or rings. As a quick fix, as you're on a budget, I'd recommend just getting a blue necklace with big stamina and ~8% crit. These should be fairly cheap. It's also completely viable to do the build using a shield! Shields can have huge crit% on them (up to 10%), and they also provide a large amount of mitigation, so you'll be a lot more robust. If you grabbed an ~8% crit shield, and an ~8% crit amulet, that would bring you up to a very comfortable 50% crit, which I'm confident you'll find much better. I note that you've also got crit damage on your rings. I think this is a mistake, for your current level of gear. Crit damage is for when you are "fully functional", and just want to increase your damage (it does nothing else for you). I'd recommend avoiding crit damage for the time being, and getting crit% or attack speed instead. You may also want to try out Leap + Iron Impact, instead of overpower. The most risky part of most battles is the start, before you have tornadoes giving you massive healing. Leap makes this easy, as you just leap straight into the middle of enemies and are invincible for 4 seconds. It also generates you fury, which makes initiating easier from the fury POV too. Once you have better gear, and more experience, you may wish to revisit Overpower. With a few small changes you should be able to do just fine
So Hairy I got home and made the changes you suggested and wow, I cleared almost all of Act III (fell short as it was getting late and I needed to get up early for work!).
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mercury-1389/hero/3272982
Check out my profile now. Grabbed an 8.5% crit neck with vit, and the shield I'm equipping I actually had stashed away. I still use overpower though; with the crit changes I didn't need to go leap.
I still die a few times but my gear isn't all that impressive. I guess now for upgrades, I need items with same stats but just more of them, get some crit on my rings and helm, and start finding pieces with crit and crit damage on them. Does this sound about right?
Thanks again for the help!
Edit: Also I decided that with the gained HP from the vitality on my neck, I ditched the % health gem in my helm and replaced it with 25% experience. A little riskier but definitely worth it in the long run.
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