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disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 21:36:02
September 29 2012 21:24 GMT
#3721
On September 30 2012 02:15 iamtrickster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 23:58 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On September 29 2012 22:37 iamtrickster wrote:
On September 29 2012 21:28 ximae wrote:
wtf are u talkin about trikster his build is optimal, standard archon build.

The only thing he might consider changing is improved archon for teleport if he prefer some mobility over extra dps. He might also want to test out how he does with storm armour scramble instead of prismatic to speed up things even further.


I never said it wasn't...I said I would throw in my opinion for what i believe would be more effective. Please keep your bad manner to yourself and read first. He asked for advice I gave him MY advice..I even mentioned other Wiz would chime in. He also asked how to play it..I stated how I would play it...sigh...


I don't think any experienced wiz out there would agree that arcane orb + hydra is more effective than archon (assuming good or decent gear). Arcane orb + hydra is probably a better choice if your gear is relatively low, since it allows you to play more carefully and defensively (running away, kiting, avoiding hits, etc.). With the right gear, archon is *much* better than this arcane orb/kiting style due to the way it allows you to just push forward without any need for kiting. Packs of trash die immediately, and elites only take a few seconds -- with orb/hydra it's not as fast


Yet again fail to pay attention...I never mentioned anything about getting rid of the archon build itself nor did I ever say it was better(infact i mentioned that it was better in the original post....)....I offered to remove magic missle and change his armor, THAT IS IT.

You really should just not post here. Evertything you told him is basically wrong if he wants to improve.

@LingsAreBunnies: Your life is high enough, anything above 30k is fine. Your damage should also be high enough for archon and you have the life steal. If you're still dying I would say it's your resistances. I basically dont die more than once or twice a run when I'm in solo and mostly to banelings. My armor and resistances, buffed, are like 5000 and 700.
this game is a fucking jokie
Hoot[rdw]
Profile Joined September 2012
8 Posts
September 29 2012 21:34 GMT
#3722
On September 30 2012 06:24 disco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 02:15 iamtrickster wrote:
On September 29 2012 23:58 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On September 29 2012 22:37 iamtrickster wrote:
On September 29 2012 21:28 ximae wrote:
wtf are u talkin about trikster his build is optimal, standard archon build.

The only thing he might consider changing is improved archon for teleport if he prefer some mobility over extra dps. He might also want to test out how he does with storm armour scramble instead of prismatic to speed up things even further.


I never said it wasn't...I said I would throw in my opinion for what i believe would be more effective. Please keep your bad manner to yourself and read first. He asked for advice I gave him MY advice..I even mentioned other Wiz would chime in. He also asked how to play it..I stated how I would play it...sigh...


I don't think any experienced wiz out there would agree that arcane orb + hydra is more effective than archon (assuming good or decent gear). Arcane orb + hydra is probably a better choice if your gear is relatively low, since it allows you to play more carefully and defensively (running away, kiting, avoiding hits, etc.). With the right gear, archon is *much* better than this arcane orb/kiting style due to the way it allows you to just push forward without any need for kiting. Packs of trash die immediately, and elites only take a few seconds -- with orb/hydra it's not as fast


Yet again fail to pay attention...I never mentioned anything about getting rid of the archon build itself nor did I ever say it was better(infact i mentioned that it was better in the original post....)....I offered to remove magic missle and change his armor, THAT IS IT.

You really should just not post here. Evertything you told him is basically wrong if he wants to improve.


I wouldn't go that far. Just a different perspective. Everyone is going to have their own variations..that's what makes the game. What works for him might not work for someone else. Doesn't make it wrong or bad..No build is set in stone.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
September 29 2012 22:03 GMT
#3723
On September 30 2012 02:15 iamtrickster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 23:58 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On September 29 2012 22:37 iamtrickster wrote:
On September 29 2012 21:28 ximae wrote:
wtf are u talkin about trikster his build is optimal, standard archon build.

The only thing he might consider changing is improved archon for teleport if he prefer some mobility over extra dps. He might also want to test out how he does with storm armour scramble instead of prismatic to speed up things even further.


I never said it wasn't...I said I would throw in my opinion for what i believe would be more effective. Please keep your bad manner to yourself and read first. He asked for advice I gave him MY advice..I even mentioned other Wiz would chime in. He also asked how to play it..I stated how I would play it...sigh...


I don't think any experienced wiz out there would agree that arcane orb + hydra is more effective than archon (assuming good or decent gear). Arcane orb + hydra is probably a better choice if your gear is relatively low, since it allows you to play more carefully and defensively (running away, kiting, avoiding hits, etc.). With the right gear, archon is *much* better than this arcane orb/kiting style due to the way it allows you to just push forward without any need for kiting. Packs of trash die immediately, and elites only take a few seconds -- with orb/hydra it's not as fast


Yet again fail to pay attention...I never mentioned anything about getting rid of the archon build itself nor did I ever say it was better(infact i mentioned that it was better in the original post....)....I offered to remove magic missle and change his armor, THAT IS IT.


Hm there's really no need for getting mad/hostile and such by calling out "fails" and using CAPS etc. In any case, excuse my "fail", but I'm pretty sure I did read this from you: "I said I would throw in my opinion for what i believe would be more effective."

There. You 'threw in' your opinion that your build using orb/hydra + kiting "would be more effective". I'm fine with your opinion being that it suits *your personal* play-style / habits better, or even that orb/hydra+kiting is more *fun* than archon (at sufficient gear level), but it's really not too helpful to tell him that your preferred style would "be more effective". It's a less "effective" setup in terms of how effective it is at farming, simple as that.
LingsAreBunnies
Profile Joined September 2011
United States103 Posts
September 29 2012 22:04 GMT
#3724
guys dont be rude, iamtrickster only stated his opinion and trying to help! ^^ what hes doing probably works great for him, since his char seems pretty solid to me.

I made some changes, trading about 10k dps for 10k hp, but it feels like Im still dying somewhat frequently.

disco: hm thats weird, I have 750ish all resist and around 4500 armor, but pretty much every phasebeast elite and almost anything damaging with jailer usually kills me multiple times per run, especially if they also have shielding.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
September 29 2012 22:12 GMT
#3725
@Lings

if your armor is just 4.5k buffed, try raising it to around 6k (at least 5.5k or so), keeping the same (or more) HP/res. Don't do it if it would make you lose too much DPS, or if it would cost more than you're interested in spending.

If you can manage to pull together around 6k+ armor & ~800 all res buffed, you should definitely be fine. Anything getting close to those numbers should mean you're fine too
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
September 29 2012 22:29 GMT
#3726
Could also try using a decent shield with crit all resist and high intel, woud lose some dps but will gain tons of toughness.

I have always used a shield and always will
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
TheRealDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States213 Posts
September 29 2012 22:46 GMT
#3727
On September 30 2012 07:04 LingsAreBunnies wrote:
guys dont be rude, iamtrickster only stated his opinion and trying to help! ^^ what hes doing probably works great for him, since his char seems pretty solid to me.

I made some changes, trading about 10k dps for 10k hp, but it feels like Im still dying somewhat frequently.

disco: hm thats weird, I have 750ish all resist and around 4500 armor, but pretty much every phasebeast elite and almost anything damaging with jailer usually kills me multiple times per run, especially if they also have shielding.


You want about 900 all resist and 7k armor with around 700 loh or 1k life regen. Reasoning is that when you are tanking damage, you need enough resist for the initial burst damage then you need enough regen or loh to maintain long enough for the mob to die. My mage only tanks. Highest dps I have achieved with him is 24k in act 3 but I don't die. I sit on 11k armor, 1100 resist, 1k regen , 1500 loh and 12% reduction from ranged.

I am saving up so I can get a nice blackthornes surcoat
"They claim that we violent. We named after Tyrants. This revolution won't be televised we keep it silent."
Zyrnak
Profile Joined February 2011
United States179 Posts
September 29 2012 22:52 GMT
#3728
Anyone got any advice on the best way to develop my wizard? My gear is basically junk, what should be the first step in upgrading it? I've got about 650k, so buying a bunch of good items is difficult. I'm wondering what slots/stats I should prioritize. I'm currently doing public Azmodan runs hoping to be grouped with people with good gear that don't mind giving other people a boost. Is this the most efficient way to try to gear up?

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zyrnak-1410/hero/15719976
TheRealDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 23:26:00
September 29 2012 23:24 GMT
#3729
On September 30 2012 07:52 Zyrnak wrote:
Anyone got any advice on the best way to develop my wizard? My gear is basically junk, what should be the first step in upgrading it? I've got about 650k, so buying a bunch of good items is difficult. I'm wondering what slots/stats I should prioritize. I'm currently doing public Azmodan runs hoping to be grouped with people with good gear that don't mind giving other people a boost. Is this the most efficient way to try to gear up?

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zyrnak-1410/hero/15719976


You need to be doing a1 runs with those stats. First of all, take that ruby out of that 2 hander lol. Put an emerald in it, preferably a star. Get a ring and some gloves with crit hit chance. It is all very cheap besides the star emerald. Search ring crit hit chance 3, intelligence. Gloves crit hit chance 9, intelligence. Doing all that might put you at 30k - 40k dps if ur lucky.

Edit - You need new gloves desperately anyway so search for all resist on those too. 50 all resist is cheap as well.
"They claim that we violent. We named after Tyrants. This revolution won't be televised we keep it silent."
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
September 30 2012 12:32 GMT
#3730
Just search all resist/vit/intel on all your armour with max buyout 50k and you will get massive upgrades on everything and int+crit chance/crit damage on rings/gloves/bracers. Get a helm with a socket in it and put the best ruby you can afford in it.
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
October 01 2012 05:57 GMT
#3731
Sup doods, I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to let me try on for 10 seconds an offhand that has around 100-400 damage to see how much dps I would gain from it
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
melkor3
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria50 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 08:35:45
October 01 2012 08:13 GMT
#3732
Just search for "Diablo 3 Damage calculator" with google, Import your Character and change the source

Edit: http://www.bios-gaming.de/d3dps
The One and Only
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
October 01 2012 13:08 GMT
#3733
On October 01 2012 14:57 KiWiKaKi wrote:
Sup doods, I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to let me try on for 10 seconds an offhand that has around 100-400 damage to see how much dps I would gain from it


http://d3up.com/

Is an easy way to test the effect of new gear.
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
October 01 2012 15:48 GMT
#3734
thx
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
ximae
Profile Joined January 2011
181 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 16:42:41
October 01 2012 16:37 GMT
#3735
aw crap!

shoulda looked here at lunch time instead of spending 3.5 mill on testing if a 1120 black one hander with socket, thats 200 dps mor than my current weapon, makes up for 80% cd... which it doesnt.
mancomputerman
Profile Joined May 2010
United States36 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 20:07:17
October 03 2012 19:35 GMT
#3736
Nevermind
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
October 03 2012 21:52 GMT
#3737
Could anyone give me advice on gearing my wizard?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Retep-1826/hero/3122291

I haven't even gotten through Act IV yet, but I have twenty million to (wisely) spend after a really lucky drop. Not sure what to prioritize, though. Thanks!
Hoot[rdw]
Profile Joined September 2012
8 Posts
October 03 2012 21:55 GMT
#3738
Are there any good boss archon wiz here? I would like to see some gear. I am only currently messing around with archon build and I seem to enjoy it quite a lot. I have around 45% crit chance, with 700 all resistance, 2400 life regen, 34k life, 5800 armor with 3% life steal on my weapon. I currently around 91k dps. I would like to level + MP farm with some other archon wiz if possible for extremely fast runs.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 21:58:42
October 03 2012 21:56 GMT
#3739
does the "20% more fire damage taken" mean that you take more fire damage from enemies, or it increases the fire damage you do to enemies? it reads like the former.

edit: get rid of all those vitality gems and put in some intelligence gems. you should also buff up your crit hit dmg.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
October 03 2012 22:13 GMT
#3740
On October 04 2012 06:52 imareaver3 wrote:
Could anyone give me advice on gearing my wizard?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Retep-1826/hero/3122291

I haven't even gotten through Act IV yet, but I have twenty million to (wisely) spend after a really lucky drop. Not sure what to prioritize, though. Thanks!


What are you having difficulty with? I finished Act 4 with way worse stats than these.
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