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alQahira
United States511 Posts
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skatbone
United States1005 Posts
If you have enough APOC and Max Arcane, when you pull an entire area...skeletons in the keep, or fallen in the Black Canyon Mines, IAS is good because you are critting SO many times that your AP will remain maxed out. So I'd say that IAS is good for farming dense areas. However it is not great for Uberbosses or for killing small packs or kiting elites. Anyone else want to way in on Meteor: Liquify and how the ground-damage-effect interacts with Crit Mass and IAS? | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
I hate you blizzard. -_- Nerfing meteor incase it was too viable. | ||
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ximae
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well it looks like they only did a 25% nerf to the proc rate to liquify, with enough ap management it might be still viable. ill be testing it once the patch hits the ptr, or has it already? | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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ximae
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Goshawk.
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ximae
181 Posts
I think blizzard is totally loosing it, they have just made all the loh and ap on crit gear worthless with the shitty proc rates we have on all spells now, instead of doing something to critical mass which is what is causing the trouble. | ||
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ximae
181 Posts
take in mind im just on 20 ap on crit, which was enough but not totally fluid before, now 30 apoc seems mandatory. I tried removing eb, which seemed a little bit too much ap consumption and changed it for the blades since i was wanding a little bit too much for my likes so i rather use something usefull. the spec i was using was 155 ap pool, 20 apoc, prism, crit nova, liquify, tap the source and healing blades(could be siphoning) + wormhole. for passives astral, cm and prodigy. and i still was dying too much for mp6. say my unbuffed defense is like 4600 armour 630 ar and 31k hp. prob is i wont be able to test with 30 apoc till next week till the ptr lets me copy my char again, and hope this time it does copy my apoc source and other stuff it didnt copy first time. I think it maybe not tottally dead, buts def not as good as before and needs steepeer gear check. | ||
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LingsAreBunnies
United States103 Posts
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INeedLings-1648/hero/24240876 | ||
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iamtrickster
United States39 Posts
On September 29 2012 19:24 LingsAreBunnies wrote: I finally got around to gearing my wizard, spent around 60m on it, but I seem to die very often when I try to farm act 3 right now. any suggestions for gear/skill would be great, I have no idea how a wizard is supposed to be played. https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INeedLings-1648/hero/24240876 I like that u spent a good amount...I love the tyraels choice. I was actually debating on going the tyraels route + firewalkers. Not so much Zunimassa. Anyways...I will get to the point of ur build that I am not so comfortable with. You have really really low life. Which is somewhat hard to play with unless you have good/decent micro. (Comes with practice) Your helm doesn't have a socket...that takes away from +% life / +%bonus exp. Which is kind of a necessity these days. You didn't really focus on life regen which ISNT needed but for sure helps a bunch! Now onto my idea of your build. I like the archon build, it's extremely strong and super effective. However for you I would advise maybe changing it a bit? I am sure other Wiz pro's will offer in their advice as well. 1. Instead of force weapon, I would use Arcane orb(Tap the source, rune)*You have a good amount of IAS you should use it!(with the critical hits on arcane you should be able to use this indefinetly without running out of Arcane) 2. Get rid of energy twister and use arcane hydra. You need something to help you kill even faster when ur kiting. 3. Change passives to Galvanizing Ward, Glass cannon, Astral Presence. 4. If possible swap Energy Armor to Force Armor or you can use Prismatic(You only take 15% dmg no matter what..extremely helpful) whatever suits you best. -Main focus is to kite,kite,kite. Wiz is not meant to just sit there and tank. -So when u come across mob, Lay hydra..Kite shoot. Kite shoot. Kite shoot. Lay hydra, Kite shoot kite shoot.(This will only come with practice it's not easy...) It's similar to playing like a DH. -I personally tend to use, Teleport fracture rune, so my clones can tank a little bit for me. I play similar style. I just hate archon it's boring to me. But effective... http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 | ||
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ximae
181 Posts
The only thing he might consider changing is improved archon for teleport if he prefer some mobility over extra dps. He might also want to test out how he does with storm armour scramble instead of prismatic to speed up things even further. | ||
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iamtrickster
United States39 Posts
On September 29 2012 21:28 ximae wrote: wtf are u talkin about trikster his build is optimal, standard archon build. The only thing he might consider changing is improved archon for teleport if he prefer some mobility over extra dps. He might also want to test out how he does with storm armour scramble instead of prismatic to speed up things even further. I never said it wasn't...I said I would throw in my opinion for what i believe would be more effective. Please keep your bad manner to yourself and read first. He asked for advice I gave him MY advice..I even mentioned other Wiz would chime in. He also asked how to play it..I stated how I would play it...sigh... | ||
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alQahira
United States511 Posts
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iamtrickster
United States39 Posts
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On September 29 2012 22:37 iamtrickster wrote: I never said it wasn't...I said I would throw in my opinion for what i believe would be more effective. Please keep your bad manner to yourself and read first. He asked for advice I gave him MY advice..I even mentioned other Wiz would chime in. He also asked how to play it..I stated how I would play it...sigh... I don't think any experienced wiz out there would agree that arcane orb + hydra is more effective than archon (assuming good or decent gear). Arcane orb + hydra is probably a better choice if your gear is relatively low, since it allows you to play more carefully and defensively (running away, kiting, avoiding hits, etc.). With the right gear, archon is *much* better than this arcane orb/kiting style due to the way it allows you to just push forward without any need for kiting. Packs of trash die immediately, and elites only take a few seconds -- with orb/hydra it's not as fast | ||
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iamtrickster
United States39 Posts
On September 29 2012 23:58 FallDownMarigold wrote: I don't think any experienced wiz out there would agree that arcane orb + hydra is more effective than archon (assuming good or decent gear). Arcane orb + hydra is probably a better choice if your gear is relatively low, since it allows you to play more carefully and defensively (running away, kiting, avoiding hits, etc.). With the right gear, archon is *much* better than this arcane orb/kiting style due to the way it allows you to just push forward without any need for kiting. Packs of trash die immediately, and elites only take a few seconds -- with orb/hydra it's not as fast Yet again fail to pay attention...I never mentioned anything about getting rid of the archon build itself nor did I ever say it was better(infact i mentioned that it was better in the original post....)....I offered to remove magic missle and change his armor, THAT IS IT. | ||
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ximae
181 Posts
dude sorry if i sounded harsh, didnt mean to be. But i jumped in at this part of your post. On September 29 2012 20:42 iamtrickster wrote: 1. Instead of force weapon, I would use Arcane orb(Tap the source, rune)*You have a good amount of IAS you should use it!(with the critical hits on arcane you should be able to use this indefinetly without running out of Arcane) 2. Get rid of energy twister and use arcane hydra. You need something to help you kill even faster when ur kiting. 3. Change passives to Galvanizing Ward, Glass cannon, Astral Presence. 4. If possible swap Energy Armor to Force Armor or you can use Prismatic(You only take 15% dmg no matter what..extremely helpful) whatever suits you best. -Main focus is to kite,kite,kite. Wiz is not meant to just sit there and tank. -So when u come across mob, Lay hydra..Kite shoot. Kite shoot. Kite shoot. Lay hydra, Kite shoot kite shoot.(This will only come with practice it's not easy...) It's similar to playing like a DH. -I personally tend to use, Teleport fracture rune, so my clones can tank a little bit for me. which considering the gear he has, 24%ms +100k dps +life steal, is just bad advice if ur looking for efficency. Specially considering he was already on the right track. If he wants to play some games fooling around with kiting and just general dicking around , im pretty sure he pretty much come up with his most fun way of playing. I do so myself some times, and here ill give u credit, i usually play with an ao/at + ah build. | ||
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ximae
181 Posts
On September 29 2012 23:40 alQahira wrote: I think you're just a little too squishy. You can sacrifice some int on the shoulders for example, and get better vitality and resists and armor. As mentioned a socket on the helm is also a priority. +1 hadnt noticed how low his health was, def get more vit somewhere. and i was telling him to try storm amour.... he needs to boost ehp for that to be viable. | ||
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Hoot[rdw]
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On September 29 2012 19:24 LingsAreBunnies wrote: I finally got around to gearing my wizard, spent around 60m on it, but I seem to die very often when I try to farm act 3 right now. any suggestions for gear/skill would be great, I have no idea how a wizard is supposed to be played. https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/INeedLings-1648/hero/24240876 Yeah vit is your biggest concern atm...also some more all resis wouldn't hurt ofcourse + a socketed helm O.O u need that lol. | ||
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