Wizard - Builds/Discussion - Page 152

On June 26 2012 17:18 Inflexion wrote:
I have gone down both paths and I still think in terms of doing magic find runs in inferno (act3 specifically), even with the ias nerf, 2 hander + stacking crit chance/dmg is better.

By better I mean, in terms of

speed of mf run / difficulty / damage output while kiting IN RELATION to gold spent.

Only recently have I switched to 1hander/offhand and I did A LOT of calcualtions (using the dps spreadsheets for wizards). I was able to get a 1120 dps 1.40 speed wand with socket (put a 100% crit damage emerald in it) and that alone cost me close to 120 million gold. The offhand is 80-360 dmg, 8.5 crit chance, 15 arcane power, 10 arcane power on hit, 100 int, 10% life which I STOLE for only 25 million (it is easily worth over 50million IMO).

That's 150 million gold already into weapons. I'm sitting at 40k health and just over 100k dps with 400 resist. I am now aiming for 50k health, 120k dps with 700 resist and the amount of gold I have to spend to do that is scaring me already.

With 1hand/offhand, you will need A LOT OF GOLD because in order to utilize it, you will have to build around improved archon. I'm already able to melt elites in archon form in about 5-10 seconds, if it's not damage reflect or some other retarded affix combination. I don't even need to kite.

The problem is that getting to the true end game 100k dps+ point with 1hand/offhand it is going to cost you WAY MORE while you are gearing towards making act 3 inferno runs effecient. In the long run, it will serve you better, if you want to reach the elite wizards with 1hand/offhand builds, to just follow Phael's advice on 2handers - get the point in his video (which will be much much cheaper) and then slowly farm towards truly end game stuff.

If you're going 1 hand/offhand and you're not able to kill any elite in inferno act 3 within the time frame of archon, than it is completely useless as with archon, AP is not a factor - therefore you want to have the highest dps rating possible and highest armor/resistence armor so you can just sit there and melt the elite before it can kill you. Otherwise, if you're just in the middle of the pack dps with 1hand/offhand, you won't do shit with 100k arcane orb crits or regular orbs hitting for 50k.

My advice: unless you have enough gold/real money to get 1hand/offhand, ~100k buffed, 40k hp, +400resis all, 40%+ crit, 200%+ crit dmg then forget it as anything less and you'll actually be hurting yourself in the long run. Gear towards crit chance/crit damage as always, but your weapon should be a 2hander with socket (if it has crit dmg than that is a bonus). Use that to farm 100mill+ gold then switch over to 1hand/offhand once you're able to get the above stats.

Your build should be similar to in Phael's video. AO with tap the source, venom hydra, force weapon, force armor, diamond skin, utility - if you find that you're dying too often, get teleport (fracture or wormhole, you're preference). But if you're finding that you're not dying that often (as it is gear dependent, maybe you have better resist all/armor then others) and seldomly using teleport then switch to sparkflit familiar to increase damage.

Once you've farmed enough to reach the above stats, then switch over to this build (the one I'm using at the moment) for 1hand/offhand. AO with tap the source, venom hydra, improved archon, spark flint, prismatic armor, diamond skin (or teleport if you're at above 700 resists and 50k hp). You should now be able to cast archon, stand there and melt most elites in a matter of seconds.

On June 27 2012 06:26 CruelZeratul wrote:
Does Cold Bloodes increase the Blizzard damage (without using any other frost spell)?

On June 27 2012 06:15 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:


current stats, what whould you focus on now? stats with prismatic,force weap and glasscannon

On June 27 2012 06:20 iLLusive wrote:
Good stats really only room you have to improve is overall DPS which as last few pages of this thread has mentioned are investment from 10-100M you have decent resist could be touch better but good enough for Act 1-3. HP is pretty much on track for your gear, guess most what you need is just obviously small improves to items with more Crit/Crit Dmg / Int / Resist.

On June 27 2012 06:55 Skyro wrote:


We have eerily similar stats except I have slightly more armor/hp and you have slightly more resists. I have like 500 less int but the same DPS (probably because I use a 2h'er instead of 1h/oh combo). What's your stats on your 1h/oh?

And I too am finding I need to spend >10m to upgrade any of my slots now.

On June 27 2012 08:39 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:


since you say act 1-3 what do i need to properly do act4? i mean i can do it (killed diablo a week ago or so) but the annoying enemies make life harder then it should. act1/2 are faceroll(outside of shit effect spiders in narrow caves) and act3 is mostly easy.



weapon:
886 dps
128 int
105 vit
socket with 80% gem
oh:
54-231 dmg
114 int
5% life
7% crit

my gold will most likely go into upgrading them both but the 20m i have atm arent nearly enough to really get something great in those slots. and in general im in the same situation, i was pissed when it took 1-3m to upgrade stuff back a few weeks. now i couldnt afford half a upgrade with that <.<

On June 27 2012 08:41 Entertaining wrote:
(@monx) buy a weapon with a sock and CD. ur crit damage is crazy low. u could also buy an andariels visage, something with like 140 int, 5 ias, 3 cc. will give u alot of damage. are those ur stats with prismatic armor? ur amor is reallllyyy low. ur res are high but ur literally missing like half ur armor. could also buy a 100-250 damage off hand with critchance and int on it would give u good damage. iono why ur so focued on all res. damage is much more important.

On June 27 2012 10:05 monx wrote:


do i need to buy a wand or other weapon type is fine too? those stats are without prismatic

On June 27 2012 11:26 Chylith wrote:
+ Show Spoiler + I wish that were the case, but there currently isn't even a single page of 200int 5% crit unsocketed helms on the NA GAH, let alone one below 12 mill. I think andy's is probably about the best you can get if you can find one for 3 mill or less(prefferably socketed) without blowing a vast chunk of cash.