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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
June 14 2012 15:10 GMT
#2541
On June 15 2012 00:01 noD wrote:
is there any reason almost no build goes with desintegrate ?

Channeled spell, standing still isn't usually a good idea.
Snarra
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark94 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 15:41:24
June 14 2012 15:41 GMT
#2542
Disintegrate is a good spell. AoE and instant cast. I've been using it throughout inferno, act 1-4. You can kite with it just as well as with Arcane Orb, in my opinion. And you'd be surprised how often you can stand and channel for a few seconds.

The only downside is its range. It's pretty short (wish they'd change the range to be a full screen length), so I wouldn't use it without a long range signature spell like Piercing Orb or Magic Missile.
Jacen88
Profile Joined October 2010
74 Posts
June 14 2012 16:04 GMT
#2543
Anyone tried to add Tornado to the Blizzard kiting build?
Just tested it and it seemed promising but im not a blizzard user at all and dont like the build so not sure.

With temporal flux its another aoe slow to go with blizzard and hydra and adds decent dps. Also it fits the theme with ice storms and tornados

You will need to use at least one of the ap reduction runes though.
Slythape
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia689 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 19:27:43
June 14 2012 19:12 GMT
#2544
Should I get an Andariel's Visage? Current with my gear setup, I borrowed one from my friend and it was a 6.2k dps upgrade, but with the attack speed nerf coming in 1.0.3, I feel it might be a waste of money, even tho a 100-120 int andariel is only 3mil.

What's everyones opinion on this?

edit: I'm currently using a helm with 700 armour, 212 int, 128 vit and 9% life, also my other stats if needed
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RabidSeagull
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
June 14 2012 19:38 GMT
#2545
On June 15 2012 04:12 Slythape wrote:
Should I get an Andariel's Visage? Current with my gear setup, I borrowed one from my friend and it was a 6.2k dps upgrade, but with the attack speed nerf coming in 1.0.3, I feel it might be a waste of money, even tho a 100-120 int andariel is only 3mil.

What's everyones opinion on this?

edit: I'm currently using a helm with 700 armour, 212 int, 128 vit and 9% life, also my other stats if needed
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I would personally wait until after the patch, even if AS doesn't get nerfed too badly, there is going to be less popularity with Andy's and the price should go down. I might not be the best person to listen to as I haven't been able to play d3 nearly as much as I'd like and wouldn't be able to afford such an item regardless of a small decrease in price that I'm predicting. Still, I feel like it would be better to wait, what if they nerf as so hard that andy's ends up just plain bad ?
I be the body dropper, the heartbeat stopper. Child educator, plus head amputator
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 19:51:32
June 14 2012 19:51 GMT
#2546
I'm shying away from uniques until 1.1 when they buff them all. I wouldn't buy any currently, but if one dropped that was an upgrade, I would still use it though.
Slythape
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia689 Posts
June 14 2012 19:55 GMT
#2547
Thats what I'm thinking too, if I do get a drop or get a nice bargain deal for Andariel's, I might just use it
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
June 14 2012 20:22 GMT
#2548
Found some sweet pants last night :D

(Roughly)

480 armor
148 int
79 vit
68 resist all
18% gold find
2 sockets

Was similar to my current but +68 resist all. I'm at work, can't remember the stats exactly, but pretty happy with them for a found item.
Arise, chicken sandwich.
debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
June 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#2549
Hey guys, just a pro-tip I found out. The familiar with sparkflint rune, actually does fire damage, so it does proc Conflagration. So you can actually get a very good dps boost against single target mobs.

Also, force weapon in bugged, it really just gives a 15% damage boosts, but is shows a 30% increase in the display, so using familiar is a no-brainer, only 3% damage loss, but you also get the familiar attacks and can use conflagration if you want too.
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
June 15 2012 00:22 GMT
#2550
Alrite, so I was thinking abit about the spectral blade build and building it just tank for others in your party as a fun change, what do you think?

So what about just mitigating damage in general and going for a basically all tank wizard (since the real items required for damage would cost so god damn much expensive if they are even availible). It would play out just like the original bugged crit/frozen build. There are weapons out there with 2 attacks per second or very close, then add 200+ vit to that and whatever else like dex, damage is totally irrelevant or not that important. Then you add to that build items with crit%, vitality, life on hit, attackspeed, armor and all res, those are the only attributes you care about and since they don't have any other special ability they should be very cheap to aquire I think. In the end you'll end up with around maybe 3.5 attacks/second and around 50% crit chance, you should run, diamond armor, explosive blast, frost nova thing, mirror image, spectral blade or similar and either crit chance arcane or all res. You'll be insanely tanky, have lots of fun, and be probably the best help available for your friends. Anyone interested in trying it out, I'm for sure! xD
Meh
-eXalt
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 02:10:27
June 15 2012 02:09 GMT
#2551
i can't decide on a weapon upgrade..

my current has pretty low DPS considering i'm at the end of act 3 inferno (759) but it has good stats (255 int, 90 vit, 48% crit hit damage). The only upgrades I see on the auction house that are not insanely priced, have 130-190 int usually, how do I decide if this is an upgrade?

if I am gaining 120 "weapon DPS", is it worth losing all of that int? Cause every upgrade that is 860+ dps does not usually have near 255 int, but you have to remember I'm gaining Weapon Dmg which all of my spells go off of. Would you say it's ok to drop some int to gain a ton of Weapon DPS?
iLLusive
Profile Joined March 2010
United States274 Posts
June 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#2552
So I must be doing something wrong I have asked for suggestions on gear / build and made some adjustments but still hitting my wall in Inferno. So today I picked up 4 new items which jumped up my resist nearly 150 from boots/amulet/gloves/belt.

So my DPS buffed with currently build is nearly 35k - and yes I realize 30k is low on HP but I am still working on upgrades.

My 2hander has no Int / Vit...any suggestions like get a 1h/oh?
My rings are 70 Int / 15% AS are those good rings for right now as I gear up?
My wrist is 100 Vit / 79+ all resist is this ok for now or am I giving up too much DPS?
My legs are 50 Int / 100 Vit double socket with +34 Vit gems
My helm is 181 Int / 69 Vit only

So thanks for anyone who takes the time to point me to a few affordable upgrades. My DPS seems ok but I just can't kill bosses or hardly clear anything in Inferno but I stomped through the rest of the game. I have really gained a lot from being a fresh lvl 60 and help I gained in responses to my previous post in this thread. So THANK YOU and hope the help continues cause I am just so fustrated that I might have to give up on doing Inferno solo right now :|
The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving.
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 07:08:12
June 15 2012 07:05 GMT
#2553
On June 15 2012 11:09 xOny wrote:
i can't decide on a weapon upgrade..

my current has pretty low DPS considering i'm at the end of act 3 inferno (759) but it has good stats (255 int, 90 vit, 48% crit hit damage). The only upgrades I see on the auction house that are not insanely priced, have 130-190 int usually, how do I decide if this is an upgrade?

if I am gaining 120 "weapon DPS", is it worth losing all of that int? Cause every upgrade that is 860+ dps does not usually have near 255 int, but you have to remember I'm gaining Weapon Dmg which all of my spells go off of. Would you say it's ok to drop some int to gain a ton of Weapon DPS?


Use the spreadsheet linked on the last page and see what it says when you gain 120 weapon dps and lose however much int.

On June 15 2012 11:24 iLLusive wrote:
So I must be doing something wrong I have asked for suggestions on gear / build and made some adjustments but still hitting my wall in Inferno. So today I picked up 4 new items which jumped up my resist nearly 150 from boots/amulet/gloves/belt.

So my DPS buffed with currently build is nearly 35k - and yes I realize 30k is low on HP but I am still working on upgrades.

My 2hander has no Int / Vit...any suggestions like get a 1h/oh?
My rings are 70 Int / 15% AS are those good rings for right now as I gear up?
My wrist is 100 Vit / 79+ all resist is this ok for now or am I giving up too much DPS?
My legs are 50 Int / 100 Vit double socket with +34 Vit gems
My helm is 181 Int / 69 Vit only

So thanks for anyone who takes the time to point me to a few affordable upgrades. My DPS seems ok but I just can't kill bosses or hardly clear anything in Inferno but I stomped through the rest of the game. I have really gained a lot from being a fresh lvl 60 and help I gained in responses to my previous post in this thread. So THANK YOU and hope the help continues cause I am just so fustrated that I might have to give up on doing Inferno solo right now :|


You need to list what damage spells your using or it's almost impossible to give gear advice. 2 IAS ring + switching to 1h/offhand is probably way too much attack speed for most builds though. You should also get a socket in your helm it's 10-14% extra life which is way better than 69 vit.
Saeglopur
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada177 Posts
June 15 2012 08:06 GMT
#2554
On June 15 2012 11:24 iLLusive wrote:
So I must be doing something wrong I have asked for suggestions on gear / build and made some adjustments but still hitting my wall in Inferno. So today I picked up 4 new items which jumped up my resist nearly 150 from boots/amulet/gloves/belt.

So my DPS buffed with currently build is nearly 35k - and yes I realize 30k is low on HP but I am still working on upgrades.

My 2hander has no Int / Vit...any suggestions like get a 1h/oh?
My rings are 70 Int / 15% AS are those good rings for right now as I gear up?
My wrist is 100 Vit / 79+ all resist is this ok for now or am I giving up too much DPS?
My legs are 50 Int / 100 Vit double socket with +34 Vit gems
My helm is 181 Int / 69 Vit only

So thanks for anyone who takes the time to point me to a few affordable upgrades. My DPS seems ok but I just can't kill bosses or hardly clear anything in Inferno but I stomped through the rest of the game. I have really gained a lot from being a fresh lvl 60 and help I gained in responses to my previous post in this thread. So THANK YOU and hope the help continues cause I am just so fustrated that I might have to give up on doing Inferno solo right now :|



Are you having trouble with act 1? If your "DPS seem ok but can't kill bosses", it means you either lack survivability options or have not allocated sufficient resources to defense(this is however unlikely since you appear to be quite fond of vitality and res all). IMHO your current statline of 35k DPS, 30k HP, and 200+? Resist should be more than enough to handle act 1.

You haven't posted your build. Refrain from using familiar, glass cannon, and energy weapon just to pimp your DPS.

Try out what I used to beat act 1 and 2. It is a quite common build, albeit a bit on the defensive side. This is particularly good for a slow 2hander weapon. Your DPS won't be sexy but you will be in the fight for much much longer.

Arcane Orb (reduced cost rune) + Arcane Hydra
Teleport(fracture), Diamond skin (crystal), Force armor and weapon
illusionist, astral blessing, temporal flux

Very straightforward gameplay wise. I beat act 1 with 24k DPS(with buff), 35K health, and around 250 resist. My weapon had 0.9 attack speed. In retrospect, I had put too much emphasis on health. You can probably do much better with 30k health and close to 30k DPS.

GEAR SUGGESTIONS IN RELATION TO MY PROPOSED BUILD

I feel 12% movement boots should be a priority since your animation will be painfully slow.

Your rings will hold up until at least act 3. It will be quite pricey to upgrade.

Look for life % shoulders with int. A lot of them are VERY UNDERPRICED.

I would place +int gems into the pants instead of vit.

My personal benchmark for entering act 2 using the aforementioned build is probably 40k DPS, 35k HP, 300 resist all.

glhf
iLLusive
Profile Joined March 2010
United States274 Posts
June 15 2012 08:13 GMT
#2555
Sorry this is my current build and thanks for the comments so far. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#acXRSO!YXU!cYabZY
The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 10:46:39
June 15 2012 10:17 GMT
#2556
On June 15 2012 17:13 iLLusive wrote:
Sorry this is my current build and thanks for the comments so far. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#acXRSO!YXU!cYabZY

30k hp isn't low. i was doing fine in act3 with 22k (and 300 resist), and 50k dps. maximize your dps first and foremost.

build is almost exactly like mine except hydra is my right click and AO my left click (i use shift allot to not move towards the mob when i'm out of AP). and i replaced MM with teleport/fracture which is an awesome survivability spell. don't bother with illusionist, glass cannon FTW. only place i missed illusionist is Azmodan for the pools, but you can live without.

forget MM unless you're doing Diablo.

and get some crit. i'm sitting at 1.2 atk speed (.9 2hander with 2 IAS piece) 25% crit chance 180% crit damage and it's fucking sweet (been farming Azmodan solo, or i carry my friends). helm bracers gloves and jewels should all have crit chance/dmg unless they have atk speed, but i wouldn't put more then 2-3 IAS pieces. Boots NEED 12% speed.

and all sockets should be int. crit damage on the weap.
DnameIN
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland146 Posts
June 15 2012 10:53 GMT
#2557
On June 15 2012 07:06 debasers wrote:
Hey guys, just a pro-tip I found out. The familiar with sparkflint rune, actually does fire damage, so it does proc Conflagration. So you can actually get a very good dps boost against single target mobs.

Also, force weapon in bugged, it really just gives a 15% damage boosts, but is shows a 30% increase in the display, so using familiar is a no-brainer, only 3% damage loss, but you also get the familiar attacks and can use conflagration if you want too.


Anyone else can confirm that Force Weapon is bugged on DPS display, not on tooltip? If it's truely 15%, I would gladly switch it to something else (sparkflint looks interesting)
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 11:51:05
June 15 2012 11:43 GMT
#2558
On June 15 2012 19:53 DnameIN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 07:06 debasers wrote:
Hey guys, just a pro-tip I found out. The familiar with sparkflint rune, actually does fire damage, so it does proc Conflagration. So you can actually get a very good dps boost against single target mobs.

Also, force weapon in bugged, it really just gives a 15% damage boosts, but is shows a 30% increase in the display, so using familiar is a no-brainer, only 3% damage loss, but you also get the familiar attacks and can use conflagration if you want too.


Anyone else can confirm that Force Weapon is bugged on DPS display, not on tooltip? If it's truely 15%, I would gladly switch it to something else (sparkflint looks interesting)

even if it's 15% you'll still be doing more damage with force weapon.
Resolve
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore679 Posts
June 15 2012 12:16 GMT
#2559


Not sure if this has been mentioned before but this is pretty neat trick to heal with hydras (video by Krippi)... seems quite useful?
debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 12:43:57
June 15 2012 12:43 GMT
#2560
On June 15 2012 19:53 DnameIN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 07:06 debasers wrote:
Hey guys, just a pro-tip I found out. The familiar with sparkflint rune, actually does fire damage, so it does proc Conflagration. So you can actually get a very good dps boost against single target mobs.

Also, force weapon in bugged, it really just gives a 15% damage boosts, but is shows a 30% increase in the display, so using familiar is a no-brainer, only 3% damage loss, but you also get the familiar attacks and can use conflagration if you want too.


Anyone else can confirm that Force Weapon is bugged on DPS display, not on tooltip? If it's truely 15%, I would gladly switch it to something else (sparkflint looks interesting)


I tested it, but you can test is for yourself too, go to act 1 normal and buy a shitty weapon, then go to the AH and get a +minimum damage amulet, that way all your hits will hit for the same damage.

Doing that, I got the following data:

278 | 100.0% | Normal attack

307 | 110.4% | Familiar (Sparkflint) attack

331 | 119.1% | Familiar (Sparkflint) + conflagration

302 | 108.6% | Magic Weapon

314 | 112.9% | Force Weapon rune


The first number is the damage I dealt in this specific situation.
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