Alright so i watched the video and i understood everything. I played the beta and it is really easy, this was expected because i am fully aware that it is only a tiny part of the whole product and meant to be an introduction. But the question that is bothering me how hard is diablo 3 gonna be, will we get wiped at nightmare/hell?
And if you don't remember diablo 2 lod on nightmare was quite challenging at around A3 you didn't have a chance if you hadn't skilled your char properly and were already using decent gear, melee chars were completly useless without really nice stuff but even sorcs/trapsins had a hard time killing travi if they the enemys were immune and you didn't waste 1 hour grinding out Baalruns on normal to get to a higher level.
But even with all that said it was still possible for everyone to finish the game if they just kept playing. But for diablo 3 they keep telling us that it will be super hard and only the best of the best can finish it, they obviously have to say it is gonna be really hard to make the game interesting for hardcore players.
The question i have is: What do you think, how many people will beat the full game, that means to kill the final boss on inferno difficulty? /E to make it more clear, i was not talking about players that drop the game after a week because they think its boring i am rather talking about players that keep playing at least a few months.
Poll: How many % of people will beat the game?
Hard, 6-20% (146)
34%
Insane, 0-5% (95)
22%
Mediocre, 21-49% (89)
21%
Casual, 80-100% (59)
14%
Easy, 50-79% (38)
9%
427 total votes
Your vote: How many % of people will beat the game?
It's going to be less than 5% like every other game. The majority of players will finish the game and than not even touch the higher difficulties or quit somewhere inbetween. I think you're overestimating the skill level or dedication for the general gaming population...
I think they want everyone to be able to get to 60 (max level) if they put time into it. Inferno on the other hand is supposed to be the real challenge I think.
On April 24 2012 09:08 skyR wrote: It's going to be less than 5% like every other game. The majority of players will finish the game and than not even touch the higher difficulties or quit somewhere inbetween. I think you're overestimating the skill level or dedication for the general gaming population...
This. When it comes to D2, all of my friends haven't got past barely beating nightmare. I never beat hell either but am on my way after picking the game up again a couple months ago.
maybe my questions wasn't optimal, i was rather wondering how many % of the active players can beat it and how many will stay forever in inferno act1 because they are just not good enough. I edited this into the OP
@ happyness all the people i used to play with could at least beat hell in multiplayer and most of them were able to make at least decent chars. Not everyone could make or waste enough time to get a really good char that was top tier but most of them could at least beat hell reasonably well getting cheap mans gear for example a good IK Barb(mediocre set item) could kill almost everything on hell.
e: i personally think like 10-15% will beat the game and kill the final boss on inferno. Maybe some will leech a better group or some will have to grind forever or use realy money but i don't think that it is going to be so ridicilous hard that only 0-5% will beat it.
"to make it more clear, i was not talking about players that drop the game after a week because they think its boring i am rather talking about players that keep playing at least a few months."
I would love to say 1% cause I want the game to be as hard as possible, but I feel fitting your description of including only people that stick with it for a few months it will be closer to 80-100%. If you add in everyone that quits the game after a week or two probably much closer to 50%.
I hope they keep it hard. like 15% beat it or something(of active players not those that just leave). Maybe less. I think they can get away with it more in diablo than an MMO like wow or whatever because they want people to see all the content. with the 3 other difficulties they can really treat inferno as just for those who want an insane challenge.
WoW is such an easy game yet the players that actually beat heroic raid content is no where close to 5%, yet alone 10%. Unfortunately I can't think of any other example that's better since I don't play RPGs.
If you're somewhat competent, it isn't hard to figure out what is needed to beat the encounter. The hard part usually is the RNG in gearing up. Blizzard keeps saying it'll take months to beat Inferno so this implies that it's going to be very gear dependent.
I guess if you count the active player base, yes it'll be very high since you only have the hardcore players remaining, the newcomers, and some casuals.
Most people will finish Normal no problem. Expect 50% of that drop off after Nightmare, 20% can finish hell, and 3-4% will run inferno. I am not a hardcore D2 player, so I never touch Hell pass Act 2. I am planning to play D3 slow and thorough, maybe reach Inferno in the course of a year or so.
Heh, most gamers don't even finish their games(Really, look at some Steam stats and it will blow your mind how much of a minority people who beat their games is)
On April 24 2012 10:18 windsupernova wrote: Heh, most gamers don't even finish their games(Really, look at some Steam stats and it will blow your mind how much of a minority people who beat their games is)
I'd go with 1% will try inferno.
Casual will probably be around 30% at most.
true, even really easy games sometimes only 70% of players have the first achievement that is usually kill 100 enemys. And really hard games almost nobody finishes it the first achievment in super meat boy is get(not beat) a single warp zone what is really easy you can get the first warpzone really early and only 68.2% have this. And only 6.7% beat the light world and only 1.9% beat the dark world. But in developer interview edmund mc millen said if a player keeps playing untill a certain point it is very likely that they will beat the whole thing (roughly a third of people that beat the light world also beat the darkworld).
So well iam not sure what to think about d3 anymore i confused myself and it was very effective
Well what i think was the most common case for D2 was, players keep playing until they find an area with all imunes and can't kill everything, wonder what the fuck is thiss and quit the game beceaus they don't want to create another char.
so with this aspect gone, i think maybe about 20%.
but again i depend on what beat you mean, you beat D2 after baal hell, or after uber tristram ?
Not even 10% of WoW players finish the heroic raids... but on the other hand these raids require not only you to be talented but for 9 of your friends to be good at the game as well. From what I understand, inferno difficulty can be beaten by yourself (so says blizzard). Therefore, the amount of people that will beat it, even if it is REALLY REALLY HARD, will be way more than WoW.
90% of people won't even play inferno, imo. Over 50% will probably just finish the game on normal and be done with it, and a significant number of buyers, say around 20%, won't even finish the game at all - on any level (not because it's difficult, just because of attention span and time constraints). I actually think the number we are looking at is around 1-2%.
The devs keep dropping little hints that it might be months til someone beats inferno, I would honestly be surprised if it lasts 2 weeks, to the point of taking it as a challenge to myself of doing it before then, while still maintaining my busy life style. Now sure the vast majority of players will quit the game long before even seeing the end of the 2nd or 3rd difficulty but don't underestimate gamers as a whole just because of a casual majority.
I've seen videos of the developers discussing the difficulty, and it looked like inferno will actually be ridiculously hard, the devs themselves died several times on the first big pack, so I think it will be a very small amount of players who actually make it through inferno, you will probably need to farm items quite a bit to get through it.
Hell, d3 overall is actually harder for casuals than most gamers realize. We all whine about how easy the beta was, yet I know people IRL who actually had problems taking down the Skeleton King because they didn't know how to kite properly etc.
EPT
