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Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 23:46:31
May 08 2012 23:45 GMT
#461
im not sure if this has been asked (only briefly skimmed through this thread...), but is it possible to join a friend's game who is near the end of say, normal difficulty? even if you are level 1? once the party completes it, does that make you complete it as well? thus, allowing you to start nightmare? haha.
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45856 Posts
May 08 2012 23:55 GMT
#462
On April 24 2012 14:47 Trozz wrote:
It should be easy.
Just have an optimal build.
Good luck finding it!


You didn't watch the video

I'll definitely get absorbed back into the Diablo universe and go through Inferno a few times. I spent sooo much time in D2. I doubt this'll be any different. Unless HotS steals me back lol.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
May 09 2012 00:22 GMT
#463
On May 09 2012 08:45 Polar_Nada wrote:
im not sure if this has been asked (only briefly skimmed through this thread...), but is it possible to join a friend's game who is near the end of say, normal difficulty? even if you are level 1? once the party completes it, does that make you complete it as well? thus, allowing you to start nightmare? haha.


Nah, there's minimum level per acts/bosses. Plus I reckon there's no town portal to speak of? Only waypoints and that "hearthstone" to get back to town.

Besides, Diablo has always been best when played alone
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 09 2012 00:22 GMT
#464
On May 09 2012 08:45 Polar_Nada wrote:
im not sure if this has been asked (only briefly skimmed through this thread...), but is it possible to join a friend's game who is near the end of say, normal difficulty? even if you are level 1? once the party completes it, does that make you complete it as well? thus, allowing you to start nightmare? haha.

Not possible, you can only join games in quests you are engaged on, or have previously completed, and I think if a higher level character joins a game created by a level 1 player, on the first quest, waypoints are locked so level 1 player can't follow a high level character into a high level zone or boss.
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 00:51:01
May 09 2012 00:50 GMT
#465
At first it will be hard.


After the optimal builds are discovered it will be easy.


When people get godly gear it will be mediocre.
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
May 09 2012 01:09 GMT
#466
On May 09 2012 09:50 DDie wrote:
At first it will be hard.


After the optimal builds are discovered it will be easy.


When people get godly gear it will be mediocre.


Honestly that is with anything.
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 01:36:35
May 09 2012 01:18 GMT
#467
On May 09 2012 09:22 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 08:45 Polar_Nada wrote:
im not sure if this has been asked (only briefly skimmed through this thread...), but is it possible to join a friend's game who is near the end of say, normal difficulty? even if you are level 1? once the party completes it, does that make you complete it as well? thus, allowing you to start nightmare? haha.

Not possible, you can only join games in quests you are engaged on, or have previously completed, and I think if a higher level character joins a game created by a level 1 player, on the first quest, waypoints are locked so level 1 player can't follow a high level character into a high level zone or boss.


That is not true at all. A friend level 1 can join your game no matter where you are, he cannot join a Nightmare game before having unlocked it however.

That is not possible for public games though, only friend games.

For example in beta a level 1 could join you to fight the skeleton king, he gets shitty experience but he can join.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 01:39:50
May 09 2012 01:39 GMT
#468
On May 09 2012 10:18 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 09:22 mordk wrote:
On May 09 2012 08:45 Polar_Nada wrote:
im not sure if this has been asked (only briefly skimmed through this thread...), but is it possible to join a friend's game who is near the end of say, normal difficulty? even if you are level 1? once the party completes it, does that make you complete it as well? thus, allowing you to start nightmare? haha.

Not possible, you can only join games in quests you are engaged on, or have previously completed, and I think if a higher level character joins a game created by a level 1 player, on the first quest, waypoints are locked so level 1 player can't follow a high level character into a high level zone or boss.


That is not true at all. A friend level 1 can join your game no matter where you are, he cannot join a Nightmare game before having unlocked it however.

That is not possible for public games though, only friend games.

For example in beta a level 1 could join you to fight the skeleton king, he gets shitty experience but he can join.

so it is possible to join a friend's game right before they complete normal difficulty? thus allowing you to go into nightmare once completed normal?

EDIT: For the beta, i did in fact join a friends game when i was level 1, and they were almost at the skeleton king haha.
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 01:42:19
May 09 2012 01:42 GMT
#469
No it isn't. From Best Buy developer chat:

Is "rushing" a character possible? Or are there some kind of restrictions that keep a player from getting to Nightmare/hell/Inferno in a significantly shorter time period than usual.
JayWilson: A higher level character can help you jump past content within a difficulty, but you get greatly diminished XP, so you really need to go through legitimately. We have hard level requirements for difficulty levels, though, so no shortcuts there.


Source: Diablo Fans
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 03:10:46
May 09 2012 03:08 GMT
#470
On May 09 2012 10:39 Polar_Nada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 10:18 rezoacken wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:22 mordk wrote:
On May 09 2012 08:45 Polar_Nada wrote:
im not sure if this has been asked (only briefly skimmed through this thread...), but is it possible to join a friend's game who is near the end of say, normal difficulty? even if you are level 1? once the party completes it, does that make you complete it as well? thus, allowing you to start nightmare? haha.

Not possible, you can only join games in quests you are engaged on, or have previously completed, and I think if a higher level character joins a game created by a level 1 player, on the first quest, waypoints are locked so level 1 player can't follow a high level character into a high level zone or boss.


That is not true at all. A friend level 1 can join your game no matter where you are, he cannot join a Nightmare game before having unlocked it however.

That is not possible for public games though, only friend games.

For example in beta a level 1 could join you to fight the skeleton king, he gets shitty experience but he can join.

so it is possible to join a friend's game right before they complete normal difficulty? thus allowing you to go into nightmare once completed normal?

EDIT: For the beta, i did in fact join a friends game when i was level 1, and they were almost at the skeleton king haha.


Like skyr said. You can do it but there is a min level for difficulties so you will finish normal at level 2 but have to wait level 30 (or whatever) before going into nightmare
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 03:58:21
May 09 2012 03:55 GMT
#471
there was (somewhat) also a lvl req in d2, but you can get past it (called grushing) when you can rush a lvl 1 character to hell, but you needed someone who was lv 24 (to do ancients + baal (req 25, ancients gave +1lvl)) in your party in normal mode and a lv 39 (ancients + baal (req 40...same deal ancients give +1)). it was a pain sometimes, since a lot of the time you tried to trick some one out and use their quest (thus putting them in the next difficultly).

i would level up bumpers for fg for rushers too xD

kinda like taking that option away though, rather have it be more legit
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 04:42:22
May 09 2012 04:41 GMT
#472
On May 09 2012 12:08 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 10:39 Polar_Nada wrote:
On May 09 2012 10:18 rezoacken wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:22 mordk wrote:
On May 09 2012 08:45 Polar_Nada wrote:
im not sure if this has been asked (only briefly skimmed through this thread...), but is it possible to join a friend's game who is near the end of say, normal difficulty? even if you are level 1? once the party completes it, does that make you complete it as well? thus, allowing you to start nightmare? haha.

Not possible, you can only join games in quests you are engaged on, or have previously completed, and I think if a higher level character joins a game created by a level 1 player, on the first quest, waypoints are locked so level 1 player can't follow a high level character into a high level zone or boss.


That is not true at all. A friend level 1 can join your game no matter where you are, he cannot join a Nightmare game before having unlocked it however.

That is not possible for public games though, only friend games.

For example in beta a level 1 could join you to fight the skeleton king, he gets shitty experience but he can join.

so it is possible to join a friend's game right before they complete normal difficulty? thus allowing you to go into nightmare once completed normal?

EDIT: For the beta, i did in fact join a friends game when i was level 1, and they were almost at the skeleton king haha.


Like skyr said. You can do it but there is a min level for difficulties so you will finish normal at level 2 but have to wait level 30 (or whatever) before going into nightmare


That is fucking bullshit because if I can beat the encounter I shouldn't be limited by some ridiculous level gap. Blizzard are really fucking retarded some times.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
May 09 2012 04:51 GMT
#473
On May 09 2012 13:41 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 12:08 rezoacken wrote:
On May 09 2012 10:39 Polar_Nada wrote:
On May 09 2012 10:18 rezoacken wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:22 mordk wrote:
On May 09 2012 08:45 Polar_Nada wrote:
im not sure if this has been asked (only briefly skimmed through this thread...), but is it possible to join a friend's game who is near the end of say, normal difficulty? even if you are level 1? once the party completes it, does that make you complete it as well? thus, allowing you to start nightmare? haha.

Not possible, you can only join games in quests you are engaged on, or have previously completed, and I think if a higher level character joins a game created by a level 1 player, on the first quest, waypoints are locked so level 1 player can't follow a high level character into a high level zone or boss.


That is not true at all. A friend level 1 can join your game no matter where you are, he cannot join a Nightmare game before having unlocked it however.

That is not possible for public games though, only friend games.

For example in beta a level 1 could join you to fight the skeleton king, he gets shitty experience but he can join.

so it is possible to join a friend's game right before they complete normal difficulty? thus allowing you to go into nightmare once completed normal?

EDIT: For the beta, i did in fact join a friends game when i was level 1, and they were almost at the skeleton king haha.


Like skyr said. You can do it but there is a min level for difficulties so you will finish normal at level 2 but have to wait level 30 (or whatever) before going into nightmare


That is fucking bullshit because if I can beat the encounter I shouldn't be limited by some ridiculous level gap. Blizzard are really fucking retarded some times.


yeah you being carried by your friend = you being able to beat encounter. Not sure where you got that from... people are really fucking retarded some times.

When they said there are level caps it doesn't mean they are high it just means you cannot go in nightmare at level 2 after having been rushed by a 60. Who cares ? Just play legit and I'm pretty sure you will not get blocked.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
May 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#474
On May 09 2012 13:51 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 13:41 SolHeiM wrote:
On May 09 2012 12:08 rezoacken wrote:
On May 09 2012 10:39 Polar_Nada wrote:
On May 09 2012 10:18 rezoacken wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:22 mordk wrote:
On May 09 2012 08:45 Polar_Nada wrote:
im not sure if this has been asked (only briefly skimmed through this thread...), but is it possible to join a friend's game who is near the end of say, normal difficulty? even if you are level 1? once the party completes it, does that make you complete it as well? thus, allowing you to start nightmare? haha.

Not possible, you can only join games in quests you are engaged on, or have previously completed, and I think if a higher level character joins a game created by a level 1 player, on the first quest, waypoints are locked so level 1 player can't follow a high level character into a high level zone or boss.


That is not true at all. A friend level 1 can join your game no matter where you are, he cannot join a Nightmare game before having unlocked it however.

That is not possible for public games though, only friend games.

For example in beta a level 1 could join you to fight the skeleton king, he gets shitty experience but he can join.

so it is possible to join a friend's game right before they complete normal difficulty? thus allowing you to go into nightmare once completed normal?

EDIT: For the beta, i did in fact join a friends game when i was level 1, and they were almost at the skeleton king haha.


Like skyr said. You can do it but there is a min level for difficulties so you will finish normal at level 2 but have to wait level 30 (or whatever) before going into nightmare


That is fucking bullshit because if I can beat the encounter I shouldn't be limited by some ridiculous level gap. Blizzard are really fucking retarded some times.


yeah you being carried by your friend = you being able to beat encounter. Not sure where you got that from... people are really fucking retarded some times.

When they said there are level caps it doesn't mean they are high it just means you cannot go in nightmare at level 2 after having been rushed by a 60. Who cares ? Just play legit and I'm pretty sure you will not get blocked.


No, that's not my point. I was talking about the level gap, not about getting boosted. Me and my friends will rush the content, skipping as much as we can. Why should we have to stop progressing because of these retarded level gaps?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#475
What are you talking about lol? Naturally playing the game will get you into the next difficulty even if you decide to skip as much as you can. I highly doubt Blizzard is as stupid as you make them out to be since they do this for WoW as well.
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
May 09 2012 05:07 GMT
#476
On May 09 2012 14:04 skyR wrote:
What are you talking about lol? Naturally playing the game will get you into the next difficulty even if you decide to skip as much as you can. I highly doubt Blizzard is as stupid as you make them out to be since they do this for WoW as well.


"We have hard level requirements for difficulty levels, though, so no shortcuts there."

That's what I'm talking about. I don't want to have to wait several levels before I can keep progressing if I am good enough to beat the content I'm facing.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 09 2012 05:08 GMT
#477
I don't know why people would even rush characters, you only need one of each class.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
bc4m
Profile Joined December 2011
United States17 Posts
May 09 2012 05:08 GMT
#478
On May 09 2012 13:57 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 13:51 rezoacken wrote:
On May 09 2012 13:41 SolHeiM wrote:
On May 09 2012 12:08 rezoacken wrote:
On May 09 2012 10:39 Polar_Nada wrote:
On May 09 2012 10:18 rezoacken wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:22 mordk wrote:
On May 09 2012 08:45 Polar_Nada wrote:
im not sure if this has been asked (only briefly skimmed through this thread...), but is it possible to join a friend's game who is near the end of say, normal difficulty? even if you are level 1? once the party completes it, does that make you complete it as well? thus, allowing you to start nightmare? haha.

Not possible, you can only join games in quests you are engaged on, or have previously completed, and I think if a higher level character joins a game created by a level 1 player, on the first quest, waypoints are locked so level 1 player can't follow a high level character into a high level zone or boss.


That is not true at all. A friend level 1 can join your game no matter where you are, he cannot join a Nightmare game before having unlocked it however.

That is not possible for public games though, only friend games.

For example in beta a level 1 could join you to fight the skeleton king, he gets shitty experience but he can join.

so it is possible to join a friend's game right before they complete normal difficulty? thus allowing you to go into nightmare once completed normal?

EDIT: For the beta, i did in fact join a friends game when i was level 1, and they were almost at the skeleton king haha.


Like skyr said. You can do it but there is a min level for difficulties so you will finish normal at level 2 but have to wait level 30 (or whatever) before going into nightmare


That is fucking bullshit because if I can beat the encounter I shouldn't be limited by some ridiculous level gap. Blizzard are really fucking retarded some times.


yeah you being carried by your friend = you being able to beat encounter. Not sure where you got that from... people are really fucking retarded some times.

When they said there are level caps it doesn't mean they are high it just means you cannot go in nightmare at level 2 after having been rushed by a 60. Who cares ? Just play legit and I'm pretty sure you will not get blocked.


No, that's not my point. I was talking about the level gap, not about getting boosted. Me and my friends will rush the content, skipping as much as we can. Why should we have to stop progressing because of these retarded level gaps?


It sounds to me like the minimum level will only be a problem if your XP is lowered through being rushed by a higher level character. If you're all the same level going through as fast as possible I'd hope they designed the game well enough for you to be past the minimum.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 05:29:57
May 09 2012 05:28 GMT
#479
On May 09 2012 14:07 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 14:04 skyR wrote:
What are you talking about lol? Naturally playing the game will get you into the next difficulty even if you decide to skip as much as you can. I highly doubt Blizzard is as stupid as you make them out to be since they do this for WoW as well.


"We have hard level requirements for difficulty levels, though, so no shortcuts there."

That's what I'm talking about. I don't want to have to wait several levels before I can keep progressing if I am good enough to beat the content I'm facing.


This blizzard response was in response to someone asking if a level 1 could get rushed into nightmare. The "hard" imo just means its a real cap rather than a "soft" cap (being denied access vs too difficult).

Dont worry you and your friend will probably not get blocked if you do the game normally. Maybe you'll get blocked a bit before inferno since it requires to be at the level cap of 60.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
May 09 2012 05:59 GMT
#480
On May 09 2012 14:28 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 14:07 SolHeiM wrote:
On May 09 2012 14:04 skyR wrote:
What are you talking about lol? Naturally playing the game will get you into the next difficulty even if you decide to skip as much as you can. I highly doubt Blizzard is as stupid as you make them out to be since they do this for WoW as well.


"We have hard level requirements for difficulty levels, though, so no shortcuts there."

That's what I'm talking about. I don't want to have to wait several levels before I can keep progressing if I am good enough to beat the content I'm facing.


This blizzard response was in response to someone asking if a level 1 could get rushed into nightmare. The "hard" imo just means its a real cap rather than a "soft" cap (being denied access vs too difficult).

Dont worry you and your friend will probably not get blocked if you do the game normally. Maybe you'll get blocked a bit before inferno since it requires to be at the level cap of 60.

Chances are, the difficulty will stop them long before the level cap. Sure, you can burn through the beta content and get to skeleton king by level 4 or something, but after normal mode, monsters actually pay attention to you and hurt.
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