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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:11 eRoN_ wrote: I never saw the point of it in d2 cos back on 56k modem you died from lag all the fucking time. You could play it offline, though. | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
- E-peen - It gets your blood pumping - No RMAH (yes, this is a good thing) - Less hackers and dupes. At least this was the way in D2. - The game has much longer longievity - You become a better player simply cause you have to pay more attention Cons: - None if you stay alive. However 99,99% of hardcore chars will eventually, at some point, die (not counting mules ofc, lol) - When you die (not if) you may be tempted to quit the game forever. It all depends if you can handle the defeat like a man. Its nice to have stocked up some items on mules as it will make it easier for you to start up a new hardcore char. If you have absolutely nothing when you die its really hard to start all over. The best advice I can give is to try it out and though its a cliché, it has some truth to it: Once a hardcore, always a hardcore". This was the case for me and many others as well. You simply do not wanna go back to softcore after having tried hardcore. | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
For me, I would be trying to do both (as I have done with Diablo II). Both types have their perks and flaws; although with the personality of many going into hardcore, I sometimes grow quite tiresome of them. But will find the elitist type on all games so can't be helped. It is justone of those things where you try them both and choose which ever you have most fun with. There is no single best way or correct choice. | ||
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Vilonis
United States130 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Ask yourself: Can you have fun when the game doesn´t try to fucking kill you? If yes, then play Softcore. If you can´t, play hardcore. I certainly can´t. If you want the game be different on hardcore, then you probably want a new game, not a harder difficulty. Culling of the weak is a good thing, even if I myself get culled. (And boy, being culled sucks) | ||
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Hikari
1914 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:34 DaCruise wrote: Pros of going hardcore: - E-peen - It gets your blood pumping - No RMAH (yes, this is a good thing) - Less hackers and dupes. At least this was the way in D2. - The game has much longer longievity - You become a better player simply cause you have to pay more attention Cons: - None if you stay alive. However 99,99% of hardcore chars will eventually, at some point, die (not counting mules ofc, lol) - When you die (not if) you may be tempted to quit the game forever. It all depends if you can handle the defeat like a man. Its nice to have stocked up some items on mules as it will make it easier for you to start up a new hardcore char. If you have absolutely nothing when you die its really hard to start all over. The best advice I can give is to try it out and though its a cliché, it has some truth to it: Once a hardcore, always a hardcore". This was the case for me and many others as well. You simply do not wanna go back to softcore after having tried hardcore. The frustration over losing your 100hr+ HC char is too overwhelming. On my 2nd HC char I pretty much become almost frightened to play on a regular basis because I am afraid of dying again -_-. | ||
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Zanzabarr
Canada217 Posts
In addition to the thrill / excitement / adrenaline / achievement of it all, is the aspect of how hardcore mode serves remove items from the game's economy, and prevents bad/careless players from getting great characters and great items. In SC, any drooling retard could get a high level character with godly items if they simply put enough time into the game and got lucky with RNG, but in HC the same type of player wouldn't even be able to get out of Normal difficulty (at least in D2). D3 HC will not have an RMAH, but even if it did, it would be unlikely to suffer from the mindless gold/item farming rackets (chinese or otherwise) that will undoubtedly exist in SC. Also, since the need to start new characters is so high in HC, items that are good for their level req are a lot more valuable and useful to collect. All of these factors (lack of millions of baddies farming items, lack of chinese item/gold farmers, the constant removal of items from the economy via HC character death, and the constant need to start new characters) will greatly serve to negate any sort of economic inflation, and keep all levels of items useful. Lastly, at least in D2, was HC PvP. HC PvP was insanely intense and rewarding. It remains to this day the only aspect of any game that ever had my heart pounding for any length of time. I'm not sure how D3 HC PvP will be handled, but even if it's not perma death, it will still be great fun considering the knowledge that every person there didn't just buy their gear from the AH for real money. It's understandable that HC isn't for everyone, but I'm especially looking forward to it in D3. D2 HC was plagued by the ability to instantly exit a game or tp to town to prevent death, and the use of full rejuvs to instantly go up to full health. The mechanics in place to prevent such exploits in D3 are going to make the HC game so much more intense then ever before. | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
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Playguuu
United States926 Posts
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
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Sc2Requiem
United States121 Posts
I have never played a game that has gotten me so emotionally invested in my character and the gameplay simultaneously. The challenge of perma-death isn't just a challenge you tackle its a constant creeping fear in the back of your mind, because you realize that your impending demise isn't a question of "if" it's a question of "when" (Extra Strong, Lightning Enchanted, Conviction Aura). The best of the best can make that one fatal misclick and find themselves overwhelmed with a sense of defeat unrivaled anywhere. A sense of defeat that is mirrored by the indescribable elation you feel when you beat the endgame with your first hardcore character. To me, hardcore mode defines what it means to be a gamer. The risk, devotion, ups and downs; it all comes together for an experience you will never forget. It's not for everyone, but if you're up for a challenge and are willing to sacrifice a good bit of time and energy (you'll die, you'll die a lot at first) you might be pleasantly surprised how addictive hardcore gameplay can be.  | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
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gosublade
632 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On January 30 2012 06:55 Nunc wrote: Also, although I agree with the OP I just find it a bit ironic or just funny he'd do a thread like this and have his signature be something like «If it is worth doing, it is worth OVER-doing». Isn't then HC seriously over-doing it, hence worth it?  Oh cmon, that's a Mythbusters quote, kinda irrelevant for this lol On January 30 2012 15:19 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: wow man, over a 1000 hours of call of duty?? owww I bet you wont ever see those again... Call of motherfucking duty? :, ( Heh, yeah, I've sort of got this love/hate relationship with CoD, but I've sworn to never play it again at least. Wrote a bit about it in my blog as well. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On January 29 2012 17:36 HaXXspetten wrote: I had a friend a long time ago who lost his level 94 Barbarian in D2, and he essentially wasn't himself for at least a month. It's just... cruel. Lol? Your friends needs time away from his computer then. Not being yourself over a computer game for longer then 30 minutes? even thats a long period of time. Thats called an addiction and someone who doesnt know the true stresses and enjoyment of life. People play hardcore for the exact reason you said, the thrill, the challenge, the do-or-die situations. Unfortunately assholes with godhacks, chicken hacks etc ruined that in D2, but what can you do. I went HC after the 1.12 patch. I was in the top 20 for a few weeks (or so i cant remember.) pretty much playing every spare moment i had, at about 84 (i think.) i died. Druid down the shitter, i sat stunned for a few seconds because it happened so fast :-( then i just got my gear looted and started again, this time taking it easy without the ladder pressure haha :-D. I was only 12 years old or so when this happened and both my best mates played like it was religion, so i just sorta assumed sitting at my PC for 8 hours + after school every day for 2-3 weeks was ok :| Im not even sure it was that long. :D Basically, its fun as hell, its for people who want a challenge, not for the (sorry) basement nerds who put their entire lives into a game and treat the pixels like their prized possessions. | ||
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Lassepetri
Denmark112 Posts
I guess my point is, that you start valuing the gametime a lot more, when you know the penalty of dying. There are no actual downsides when playing softcore, and no actual pride as compared to a more harsh environment of HC. For me, thats the high risk/high reward. | ||
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ZergOwaR
Norway280 Posts
what if they suddenly got a major lag spike?  or rockclimbers, skaters, snowboarders, and so on.. they do sick stuff that with one wrong move sends them to the hospital hardcore mode would be something like that.. only that you actually get another chance | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On January 30 2012 13:42 AimlessAmoeba wrote: Once I lost a druid in Act 2, Hell, too. Once I lost an Amazon in Hell Act 4, my farthest hardcore play ever. In both cases I died to element damage. (From those skelettons in Act 2, from those element mages in Act 4.)The best I ever did with D2 HC was get a character to Hell difficulty, at which point I died in act 2. That in itself was one of my proudest accomplishments, but I have to admit losing that character was one of the hardest gaming experiences I've put myself through. I also remember the good drops, like Sander's boots, the complete Hsarus Set, some pieces of the Immortal King, some Sigon parts and some unique armors with +1 skill properties. I also fondly remember gambling success where I got amuletts with +2 skills for a class. It all feels much more valuable in hardcore. | ||
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Ornithorynquez
430 Posts
But i really get why some people really love the Hardcore mode, sounds exciting and i'm quite sure i'll try it on Diablo 3. By the way i really wish there was something between Hardcore (you die, it's over) and the pussy Diablo 2 way (gold and xp), i don't know how it is on Diablo 3, but i guess it's not that fightening. | ||
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