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imbs
United Kingdom320 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On February 23 2011 09:20 yakitate304 wrote: I actually like the cap on players per team. In fact, with only 16 players, I wish it capped it even more. I know it means that a few well known players will be left out, but hopefully it should allow for even more players who can bring new ideas and play styles. I will definitely be buying this subscription. The quality of play probably won't be as good as the GSL, but I'm down for the cause of investing in western SC2 events. That 5-per team cap is for the initial 50 invitees, not for the final top 16 players. | ||
Serpico
4285 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On February 23 2011 08:33 iCCup.Diamond wrote: I cannot and almost never have been able to. Yet I can watch streams on Livestream, Ustream, GOM, and own3d with no issues. But Justin just freezes after about 2 seconds on anything higher then 480p. I had to watch one of the GCPL's in 240p ffs. Quite annoying. I have 768kbps DSL, so 360 is the best w/o lag I can get. Vods would be nice. If I get better internet (highly likely) I'll probably get the ticket thoough. | ||
alex9158
4 Posts
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:38 CursedFeanor wrote: On the price tag I just want to step in to give a huge WTF at all those who are complaining about the 20-25$ price tag. 25$ / (3h/night * 5nights/week * 13 weeks) = 13 cents per hour Do you realize you're whining like spoiled brats about being given a great entertainment product for about 13 cents per hour?! This is beyond ridiculous, I can't believe some are actually complaining... Oh and yeah... They also provide a free stream!!! And really guys, please put this into perspective. 20 bucks is about what you'll pay (if you're very reasonable) for any type of night out with friends. It's about 2 beers in a bar... geez it's NOTHING! On the players I also want to point out that while the caliber of play *might* not be as high as with the koreans in GSL, I personally find the western type of play much more fun! Think Kiwikaki, Catz, TLO, etc... In the GSL, it's basically the same matches over and over again. There is no place for crazy stuff, while this is much more frequent in the tournaments in NA or EU. And I also believe the top 50 "foreign" players can compete with the top 50 koreans no problem in terms of skill. This in my opinion will make the NASL so great to watch, with the added bonus that it won't be in the middle of the night! ![]() I really wish it was the top 50 players that would be awesome, if it was a tournament with qualifiers then you really would be getting the top 50 players, where as them choosing the 10 best teams isnt going to get the top players, it doesnt really make sense to me. When they choose the 10 best teams each of those teams is going to want to put in 5 players even if they arent the best players, they are all going to want maximum representation. It just seems like a popularity contest, wich teams are the tightest with EG and gosucoaching? those teams will be considered the top 10 teams. I hope they have some kind of requirements that need to be met for a team to be considered a top team, like players from that team have to have placed top 4 in a couple of tournaments or something Edit: Fnatic is going to be in this tournament do any of you really consider their players top tier players? i dont >< maybe TT1 but even he hasnt been performing that well recently | ||
Zeiryuu
Philippines231 Posts
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
being the psuedo businessman....try to have a professional layout so you can record and establish a video library. you can always show this on g4 or something. but from what i've learned...g4 is on the way out. however, g4 is perfect for sc just like spike is perfect for ufc. but g4 lost its direct tv contract. we'll see. i am my assessment is that this will fail. i hate to be a downer but i give it 35 40 pct of sucess beyond season 4. | ||
awwnuts07
United States621 Posts
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OEDLING
Sweden2 Posts
![]() I'm sorry if this has been answered already, 42 pages is a lot to look through ![]() | ||
BluePabs
United States317 Posts
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Inky87
United States533 Posts
On February 23 2011 10:13 OEDLING wrote: Anyone know at what times at night it will be aired? I'm so excited for this, I just hope it isn't aired like 7pm at night since that is 4am where I live ![]() I'm sorry if this has been answered already, 42 pages is a lot to look through ![]() They're going to restream for Europeans at some European time ^_^ | ||
cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On February 23 2011 10:07 Phanekim wrote: this thing needs tv exposure. not just streaming. being the psuedo businessman....try to have a professional layout so you can record and establish a video library. you can always show this on g4 or something. but from what i've learned...g4 is on the way out. however, g4 is perfect for sc just like spike is perfect for ufc. but g4 lost its direct tv contract. we'll see. i am my assessment is that this will fail. i hate to be a downer but i give it 35 40 pct of sucess beyond season 4. Yea i could see the premium service covering the prize pool but there are so many other expenses i couldnt really see this going beyond season 4 just on the internet, gom got a tv deal for code s with anibox im sure that has really helped them out. The prize pool also seems quite high they should have started it out at 60k it still would have attracted a huge number of players. I really cant see a nearly all online tournament being able to generate anywhere near the same revenue as the gsl or even get on tv in this format. Change it to an all offline format and have qualifiers and this could really be a top tier tournament, i would support it 100% | ||
SirScoots
United States138 Posts
On February 23 2011 05:27 BlueFlames wrote: You are absolutly right, but its also wrong to talk about the production value of something that has not been done yet. We dont know anything. Could be they arent even far enough to do this production by themselves and Graetorp and Incontrol had to do this in SirScoots basement. The stream will be free and you can make up your mind after you have seen the actual production. If it sucks than dont buy it, because supporting the wrong people for the sake of e-sports is bs. If it is good than spend the money with the knowledge that you will get entertained and did something good for the sc2-scene. Why you dogging the basement that I do not have? | ||
UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
This would attract more sponsorship later on kinda like any of the NBA, MLB or NFL. | ||
ThatETmonkey
Sweden8 Posts
On February 23 2011 08:02 iCCup.Diamond wrote: It's for sure NOT a rip off, but for people on a limited budget (ie: most people) $20 is not somethign they can just throw out, also you have to consider that this is not the only pay SC2 stream. Now if you get every paid stream for 2011 you will pay: 9 Months of GSL with ads: $90 9 Months of NASL: $60 6 MLG Streams: $60 6 or so IEM streams: $60 So you are talking $270 to support all of these streams. That's actually a lot of $ for most people, even if the content/$ ratio is very high. I know I only will end up buying GOM, MLG, and NASL streams, should I also buy the IEM streams to "support espots" even though I have little interest in most of the IEM's or just catch the free stream? What does it cost to go to the movies? Are you checking out year by year in advance which movies you are going to see? In my country 20$ is only gonna get me 1 visit at the cinema. It wont be enough to get into a hockey or football game. In comparison to other stuff the content of that 20$ looks kind of cheap to me. | ||
Neo.NEt
United States785 Posts
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Hrwa
Croatia147 Posts
On February 23 2011 11:47 Neo.NEt wrote: Don't use the arrow keys when you're observing! This, middle mouse moving is much nicer for observing. | ||
xphantomx
United States37 Posts
On February 23 2011 06:18 stephiso wrote: Why doesn't he leave Korea later? NASL only starts on April 11th, that's what I'm asking. He is already qualified in code S anyways, might as well give it a shot (yesterday he was supposed to play)...and go home if he did not make it through he wasnt leaving due to the NASL. he announced he was leaving after he knew about the NASL he just wanted to leave so he dropped out of GSL and left.....either way if he did or didnt know about the NASL somehow by contacting someone involved it will be great to have him competing in and promoting it. | ||
MattyClutch
United States711 Posts
On February 23 2011 10:20 cheesemaster wrote: Yea i could see the premium service covering the prize pool but there are so many other expenses i couldnt really see this going beyond season 4 just on the internet, gom got a tv deal for code s with anibox im sure that has really helped them out. The prize pool also seems quite high they should have started it out at 60k it still would have attracted a huge number of players. I really cant see a nearly all online tournament being able to generate anywhere near the same revenue as the gsl or even get on tv in this format. Change it to an all offline format and have qualifiers and this could really be a top tier tournament, i would support it 100% Well when they are budgeted for 3 years so they have plenty of time to work out a functional format, why start small? ![]() | ||
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