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imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
February 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#821
justin.tv streams seem really werid. when the showmatch started yesterday it was so laggy it was unwatchable on 240. as soon as i put it on best however it smoothened out completely and lasted for about 10 mins where it became totally unwatchable again, but putting it on 360 fixed it for the rest of the showmatch. im pretty excited about the nasl and am really hoping the streams will be better - that kind of inconsistency cant be good for viewership.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
February 23 2011 00:35 GMT
#822
On February 23 2011 09:20 yakitate304 wrote:
I actually like the cap on players per team. In fact, with only 16 players, I wish it capped it even more. I know it means that a few well known players will be left out, but hopefully it should allow for even more players who can bring new ideas and play styles.

I will definitely be buying this subscription. The quality of play probably won't be as good as the GSL, but I'm down for the cause of investing in western SC2 events.


That 5-per team cap is for the initial 50 invitees, not for the final top 16 players.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
February 23 2011 00:40 GMT
#823
Personally my only problem was with the desynced sound. If that was fixed I would probably feel like it was a pretty decent show overall.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 23 2011 00:41 GMT
#824
On February 23 2011 08:33 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 08:31 Keitzer wrote:
On February 23 2011 08:22 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On February 23 2011 08:19 Froadac wrote:
Another valid reason for not buying the ticket (probably will, but w/e) is that your internet can't support the higher quality stream, as may or may not be true for me. If SQ is 480p, that's the max my web can handle, so no reason to get premium.


Wow good point I did not think about this, I can't watch Justin in anything over 480p and I'm in the US with a 20 meg download internet. Hmhmhmhmhm. might not be worth my $20 if I can't use the HQ and I won't need the VOD's. Move me from the "buying a ticket for sure" to the "maybe if i can get Justin to work I'll buy it" category with that.


what?

i can view 720p in NA just fine, and i have less than that in DL (i think it's around 15mb)


I cannot and almost never have been able to. Yet I can watch streams on Livestream, Ustream, GOM, and own3d with no issues. But Justin just freezes after about 2 seconds on anything higher then 480p. I had to watch one of the GCPL's in 240p ffs.

Quite annoying. I have 768kbps DSL, so 360 is the best w/o lag I can get. Vods would be nice.

If I get better internet (highly likely) I'll probably get the ticket thoough.
alex9158
Profile Joined February 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 00:43:24
February 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#825
http://img411.imageshack.us/i/nasl.png/


Hrm....
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 01:05:16
February 23 2011 00:58 GMT
#826
On February 23 2011 00:38 CursedFeanor wrote:
On the price tag

I just want to step in to give a huge WTF at all those who are complaining about the 20-25$ price tag.

25$ / (3h/night * 5nights/week * 13 weeks) = 13 cents per hour

Do you realize you're whining like spoiled brats about being given a great entertainment product for about 13 cents per hour?! This is beyond ridiculous, I can't believe some are actually complaining... Oh and yeah... They also provide a free stream!!! And really guys, please put this into perspective. 20 bucks is about what you'll pay (if you're very reasonable) for any type of night out with friends. It's about 2 beers in a bar... geez it's NOTHING!

On the players

I also want to point out that while the caliber of play *might* not be as high as with the koreans in GSL, I personally find the western type of play much more fun! Think Kiwikaki, Catz, TLO, etc... In the GSL, it's basically the same matches over and over again. There is no place for crazy stuff, while this is much more frequent in the tournaments in NA or EU. And I also believe the top 50 "foreign" players can compete with the top 50 koreans no problem in terms of skill.

This in my opinion will make the NASL so great to watch, with the added bonus that it won't be in the middle of the night!

I really wish it was the top 50 players that would be awesome, if it was a tournament with qualifiers then you really would be getting the top 50 players, where as them choosing the 10 best teams isnt going to get the top players, it doesnt really make sense to me. When they choose the 10 best teams each of those teams is going to want to put in 5 players even if they arent the best players, they are all going to want maximum representation. It just seems like a popularity contest, wich teams are the tightest with EG and gosucoaching? those teams will be considered the top 10 teams. I hope they have some kind of requirements that need to be met for a team to be considered a top team, like players from that team have to have placed top 4 in a couple of tournaments or something

Edit: Fnatic is going to be in this tournament do any of you really consider their players top tier players? i dont >< maybe TT1 but even he hasnt been performing that well recently
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Zeiryuu
Profile Joined March 2010
Philippines231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 01:08:57
February 23 2011 01:06 GMT
#827
I only wish they schedule the more important matches, like the semis and finals, on weekends and also at a relatively conveniently time for those in Asia. Much like how GSL March is scheduled now. Semis and Finals (for Code S at least) are all on Saturday afternoons in Korea. This may be like 9-10PM Fridays in most of the areas in the US.
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
February 23 2011 01:07 GMT
#828
this thing needs tv exposure. not just streaming.

being the psuedo businessman....try to have a professional layout so you can record and establish a video library. you can always show this on g4 or something. but from what i've learned...g4 is on the way out. however, g4 is perfect for sc just like spike is perfect for ufc. but g4 lost its direct tv contract. we'll see.

i am my assessment is that this will fail. i hate to be a downer but i give it 35 40 pct of sucess beyond season 4.
i like cheese
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
February 23 2011 01:08 GMT
#829
Friggin' cool. Now our guys don't have to have to travel all the way around the world to make money off of their skills. I really hope NASL takes off. Can I reserve my season pass now?
I'm a noob
OEDLING
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden2 Posts
February 23 2011 01:13 GMT
#830
Anyone know at what times at night it will be aired? I'm so excited for this, I just hope it isn't aired like 7pm at night since that is 4am where I live

I'm sorry if this has been answered already, 42 pages is a lot to look through
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. -Steven Weinberg
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
February 23 2011 01:15 GMT
#831
thank you for putting all of this in one place. I believe he said 4 pst and then again in the morning for European viewers
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
February 23 2011 01:18 GMT
#832
On February 23 2011 10:13 OEDLING wrote:
Anyone know at what times at night it will be aired? I'm so excited for this, I just hope it isn't aired like 7pm at night since that is 4am where I live

I'm sorry if this has been answered already, 42 pages is a lot to look through


They're going to restream for Europeans at some European time ^_^
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
February 23 2011 01:20 GMT
#833
On February 23 2011 10:07 Phanekim wrote:
this thing needs tv exposure. not just streaming.

being the psuedo businessman....try to have a professional layout so you can record and establish a video library. you can always show this on g4 or something. but from what i've learned...g4 is on the way out. however, g4 is perfect for sc just like spike is perfect for ufc. but g4 lost its direct tv contract. we'll see.

i am my assessment is that this will fail. i hate to be a downer but i give it 35 40 pct of sucess beyond season 4.

Yea i could see the premium service covering the prize pool but there are so many other expenses i couldnt really see this going beyond season 4 just on the internet, gom got a tv deal for code s with anibox im sure that has really helped them out. The prize pool also seems quite high they should have started it out at 60k it still would have attracted a huge number of players. I really cant see a nearly all online tournament being able to generate anywhere near the same revenue as the gsl or even get on tv in this format. Change it to an all offline format and have qualifiers and this could really be a top tier tournament, i would support it 100%
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
SirScoots
Profile Joined December 2010
United States138 Posts
February 23 2011 01:49 GMT
#834
On February 23 2011 05:27 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 05:21 eloist wrote:
I disagree with people that just outright call for support for this due to the large prize pool. If you have 20 bucks to spare without getting the actual production value equivalent for it, you might as well donate it to any of the other well run events that you can watch for free and tell them to add it to their prize pool.


You are absolutly right, but its also wrong to talk about the production value of something that
has not been done yet. We dont know anything. Could be they arent even far enough to do this
production by themselves and Graetorp and Incontrol had to do this in SirScoots basement.

The stream will be free and you can make up your mind after you have seen the actual production.
If it sucks than dont buy it, because supporting the wrong people for the sake of e-sports is bs.
If it is good than spend the money with the knowledge that you will get entertained and did something good for the sc2-scene.



Why you dogging the basement that I do not have?
UberThing
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain410 Posts
February 23 2011 01:51 GMT
#835
The 5 members per team thing looks like they want to eventually develop this into a team franchise thing with 9X 5 man teams.

This would attract more sponsorship later on kinda like any of the NBA, MLB or NFL.
Wag1
ThatETmonkey
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden8 Posts
February 23 2011 01:52 GMT
#836
On February 23 2011 08:02 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 07:57 aristarchus wrote:
On February 23 2011 07:49 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On February 23 2011 07:46 PJA wrote:
I feel like anyone who is complaining about the $20 cost who is either a) still in high school or b) in undergrad and has no income. I totally understand what it's like when you don't have a job, but if you're in these categories why are you even talking about money/the lack of value you're getting for $20?

Anyone who has any actual income and has any spare money isn't going to complain about how $20 every 3 months is breaking the bank and not giving them value for their money. It's extremely inexpensive to support the biggest thing ever in western E-sports.


Or C: They are being very frugal with their $ after a worldwide economic recession, call them crazy...

Of course I am buying a NASL ticket, but I understand the concerns, especially after last night's disaster.


I understand the concerns after last night - obviously that cast was not up to pay-for-it quality standards. That, though, is easily dealt with by the free stream. I for one will certainly be watching that once or twice before paying for anything to see what the quality really is.

I don't understand the people complaining that $20 is too high even if it's done well. It's extremely low for the amount of content. I assume some of these people sometimes go to a movie...

I might not pay for it, but only because the free stream is better as an alternative than GOM's because of the more convenient time. The idea that $20 is a ripoff is just insane.


It's for sure NOT a rip off, but for people on a limited budget (ie: most people) $20 is not somethign they can just throw out, also you have to consider that this is not the only pay SC2 stream.

Now if you get every paid stream for 2011 you will pay:

9 Months of GSL with ads: $90
9 Months of NASL: $60
6 MLG Streams: $60
6 or so IEM streams: $60

So you are talking $270 to support all of these streams. That's actually a lot of $ for most people, even if the content/$ ratio is very high. I know I only will end up buying GOM, MLG, and NASL streams, should I also buy the IEM streams to "support espots" even though I have little interest in most of the IEM's or just catch the free stream?


What does it cost to go to the movies? Are you checking out year by year in advance which movies you are going to see? In my country 20$ is only gonna get me 1 visit at the cinema. It wont be enough to get into a hockey or football game. In comparison to other stuff the content of that 20$ looks kind of cheap to me.
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
February 23 2011 02:47 GMT
#837
Don't use the arrow keys when you're observing!
Apologize.
Hrwa
Profile Joined August 2010
Croatia147 Posts
February 23 2011 02:57 GMT
#838
On February 23 2011 11:47 Neo.NEt wrote:
Don't use the arrow keys when you're observing!


This, middle mouse moving is much nicer for observing.
"That trophy is worth a million times more than the money" - NaNiwa after winning MLG Dallas
xphantomx
Profile Joined February 2011
United States37 Posts
February 23 2011 03:13 GMT
#839
On February 23 2011 06:18 stephiso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 03:29 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On February 23 2011 03:27 stephiso wrote:
I'm curious to know why IdrA forfeitted for the GSL March since NASL only starts on April 11th? Any body knows why?

He didn't forfeit in the GSL because of a conflict with the NASL. He forfeited because he's leaving Korea.


Why doesn't he leave Korea later? NASL only starts on April 11th, that's what I'm asking. He is already qualified in code S anyways, might as well give it a shot (yesterday he was supposed to play)...and go home if he did not make it through


he wasnt leaving due to the NASL. he announced he was leaving after he knew about the NASL he just wanted to leave so he dropped out of GSL and left.....either way if he did or didnt know about the NASL somehow by contacting someone involved it will be great to have him competing in and promoting it.
to live doesn't mean your alive
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
February 23 2011 03:16 GMT
#840
On February 23 2011 10:20 cheesemaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 10:07 Phanekim wrote:
this thing needs tv exposure. not just streaming.

being the psuedo businessman....try to have a professional layout so you can record and establish a video library. you can always show this on g4 or something. but from what i've learned...g4 is on the way out. however, g4 is perfect for sc just like spike is perfect for ufc. but g4 lost its direct tv contract. we'll see.

i am my assessment is that this will fail. i hate to be a downer but i give it 35 40 pct of sucess beyond season 4.

Yea i could see the premium service covering the prize pool but there are so many other expenses i couldnt really see this going beyond season 4 just on the internet, gom got a tv deal for code s with anibox im sure that has really helped them out. The prize pool also seems quite high they should have started it out at 60k it still would have attracted a huge number of players. I really cant see a nearly all online tournament being able to generate anywhere near the same revenue as the gsl or even get on tv in this format. Change it to an all offline format and have qualifiers and this could really be a top tier tournament, i would support it 100%



Well when they are budgeted for 3 years so they have plenty of time to work out a functional format, why start small?
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