EPTEDITED: nevermind, just read the Q&A thread. I guess the Top 4 do get something after all.
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Gijian
United States273 Posts
EDITED: nevermind, just read the Q&A thread. I guess the Top 4 do get something after all. | ||
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qzlsecret
Mexico126 Posts
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heaven-
United States361 Posts
On February 23 2011 05:40 BlueFlames wrote: read the interview. than read it again. and if you still dont understand the informations that were given than write incontrol a message. why the hell would i be worried that they did not release all the information over 1 month before the start? you dont want to be negative but you are. do you think that eg, fanatic and gosucouching are all just really big jokes? telling people they have the finances for the whole thing secured when they dont? if they were to lie anyone involved could never again show their face anywhere. sc2 might not make it into tv, but a news like that would. they would get sued into oblivion. damn just be positive ok? Why would I be worried? I can respond to that with one word: ESWC. edit: I would also like to add that when the world economy began to plummet and the death of wc3 took off countless of Professional (professional mind you) teams just stopped paying their players. I am not sure what was it like in the sc scene at the time but in wc3, every other news was "Player A quits team B. Reason 'they owe me money so i quit' " again and again. So yeah I do not mean to be negative but I cannot help but be realistic. The prize pool is insanely high for no sponsors, yes it worries me. As to your getting sued point. It would not happen. If the league owner says sorry we did not make enough revenue post tournament to make up for the expenses, no prize money (which has happened countless of times already) there is nobody to sue. Now I am not saying this is what happens for sure, but sometimes its important to ask the uncomfortable questions, gotta learn from the past. With that being said, I hope for the best and I am extremely excited if this goes through. | ||
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:33 Maynarde wrote: They DO have sponsorship. The sponsor is just remaining a silent partner which is their perogative. Like GSL which has some growing pains at first NASL will come good eventually, something with this level of financial support and community support is always welcome for scene looking to gain new interest and keep old school gamer interest as well. Don't worry about NASL, let NASL worry about NASL and enjoy the results or don't watch it. The sponsors are not remaining silent partners, if you heard russ talk today he said they just havent been announced yet, but like he said they are sponsors they want their names out there but the announcement just happened yesterday i assume we will see who the sponsors are by next week | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On February 23 2011 12:16 MattyClutch wrote: Well when they are budgeted for 3 years so they have plenty of time to work out a functional format, why start small?  they are budgeted for three seasons, wich will most likely occur over the course of a year or maybe a bit more im assuming, after listening to sotg and hearing they do have sponsors who havent been announced yet im not so worried about that. Liquidtyler pretty much expressed all of my concerns on state of the game, ive always liked him and respect his opinions. I think they are way too worried about collusion though. Honestly if they had qualifiers and did it in a similair format to the gsl this wouldnt be a problem tyler suggested this briefly but russ and incontrol seem pretty stuck on this format. Like tyler said though this format will pretty much ruin team growth, if the nasl becomes a top tier tournament that everyone wants to participate in, why would a good player want to join a team who had all their spots filled for the NASL this is going to mean more teams competing for sponsors meaning the sponsorship for esports will be spread alot thinner teams are already having trouble finding sponsors i can only see it getting worse if 5 man teams become the norm for north america, You want bigger more elite teams not small diluted teams. =( Its convenient for the NASL to do it this way but not so convenient for e-sports | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
Everybody that knows european football also knows how much excitement the relegation system adds. It also gives the teams (or players) that are at the bottom of the league an extremely strong incentive to fight on. Often the games about relegation spots is even more exciting than the fight at the top. Thats why I REALLY hope they implement a relegation system. | ||
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pms
Poland611 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On February 23 2011 07:10 diesirae wrote: If you want an e-sport to grow, this is by far the worst way to go about it. The only people who will pay for this are TL fanboys. Enjoy your tournament, losers! I'm sure you're going to love your $20 investment as you're watching people 1a-click armies into each other. ... keep manner plz we dont know the players yet, so lets wait and see and plz just flame after you have all informations | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On February 22 2011 11:06 ReachTheSky wrote: This is a north american starleague.......can't we just keep this to north americans? >< wow ... most rassistic tread read for a long time ... i think alot ALOT of european/s.american etc players are better then most of the us player like 70-30% in the VERY top (also because europe ofc have way miore countrys where the money is much more worth) TSL Qualifiers etc seems to show the same etc only NA would make it a very boring tournament with not including 80% of the non asian scene its way way WAY more epic tournament with players who are the best from all over the world | ||
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superjoppe
Sweden3694 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10969 Posts
Just the 5 Players per team rule is stupid? 2 things can come from this: 1: A high profile player won't be in the tournament. 2: A Team will split itself into 2 while still keeping the same sponsors for both, the same "house/whatever" for both and the rule is nullified. 3: Teams split. | ||
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Escape
Canada306 Posts
I can see why they only want team players on the league for now. Imagine a formula-1 car race where anyone with a car can participate. You really need a team to back you up for a professional endeavors like this. best of luck! | ||
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
Pre-Season Questionnaire: 1. Tell us about yourself and your history with SC2 2. Why should you be a part of the NASL? 3. Who are your biggest rivals? 4. How do you stand out from other players? 5. Name one player you’d like to see in the NASL? 6. Anything else you’d like to add? | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On February 23 2011 23:57 Marcus420 wrote: Questions are up now for people who want to apply. Pre-Season Questionnaire: 1. Tell us about yourself and your history with SC2 2. Why should you be a part of the NASL? 3. Who are your biggest rivals? 4. How do you stand out from other players? 5. Name one player you’d like to see in the NASL? 6. Anything else you’d like to add? For players that barely speak english it must suck to answer these questions per video. :D | ||
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.Enigma.
Sweden1461 Posts
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
I, along with the majority of the Starcraft 2 community waited in anticipation to hear Incontrol's announcement. Over the past couple of months, the hype built into a fever pitch that culminated with 35k viewers tuning into Justin.tv to see the Clash of the Titan's showmatch and hear the major announcement. It's coming... an esports revolution a new age begins $400,000 North American Star League We were not disappointed. Starcraft 2 communities like Team Liquid and SCReddit exploded with excitement. This was it. NASL would be the answer to helping esports grow in North America. Finally, a professional league to call our own. We were grinning ear to ear. After the initial excitement subsided, specific details about the league trickled in. NASL would be a 50 member league. The matches would be played online, while the final 16 would be played at a LAN tournament. NASL participants must be on a team. Only a maximum of 5 players from each team can participate in NASL. Hold it. A team can only have a maximum of 5 players participating in NASL. I didn't like it. At first, I attributed my discomfort to the fact that Team Liquid couldn't field all of it's players. However, the more I thought about the rule, I became increasingly distressed. Why? Why would I become distressed? This seemingly innocuous rule of 5 players per team may lead to NA Esport's downfall. NASL hopes to become the premiere Starcraft 2 league in North America. The rise of NASL would help grow and spread esports in North America. Teams would make it a priority for its players to participate in the North American Star League. Due to the current rules of NASL, I feel NASL's rise to prominence may lead to NA esports downfall. Their are four crucial pillars when it comes to the professional Starcraft 2 community: viewers, casters, sponsors, and teams (players). NASL's rule for a max of 5 players from a team would decimate and create irreparable harm to North American teams. North America lags behind Europe and Korea when it comes to the development of the esports community; especially when it comes to the formation of sponsored teams. We've all heard stories about the difficulties of North American Starcraft 2 teams finding sponsorship to support its players. Other established NA teams had to downsize their roster. NA teams cannot afford to send its players oversee to participate in offline European tournaments, nor the GSL. When MLG came along, it was a true blessing for the teams. It gave them a platform to showcase its players. Now we have NASL. If NASL becomes established and the premiere NA Starcraft 2 tournament, companies will most likely sponsor a team that has a max of 5 players. Why should a company sponsor more than 5 players? After all, if NASL continues to grow and goes beyond the three seasons (total 400k prize pool), a team with more than 5 players would be a waste. A team wouldn't be able to showcase all of its players in NASL. Europe and Korea will most likely not face the same problems. Teams in the two areas have a firmer financial stability with more tournament opportunities like ESL, Dreamhack, and the plethora of offline tournaments. Thus, teams wouldn't be incline to limit their roster to five players. Unfortunately, the rise of NASL would hinder the growth of North American teams due to the 5 player limit rule. Teams play a critical role to the development of its players, but also contribute to the existence of a professional esport's community. Teams allow its players to attend tournaments where individuals can make a name for themselves. NASL would only contribute to the fragility of the Starcraft 2 team scene in North America. It's difficult getting sponsors. Moreover, it's harder for players to join a team that has some kind of financial stability. NASL's 5 player limit rule would encourage sponsors to pressure teams into downsizing to 5 players. This would give professional players less opportunity to join a team, which would be detrimental to their growth. Tournaments are more likely to invite players who are on a team. Team allow players to play Starcraft 2 professional. The 5 player per team limit rule will ultimately weaken esport's community. I fear that NASL's rise may lead to NA esport's downfall. I hope I am wrong. | ||
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Elean
689 Posts
The players in the league are supposed to compete against each others, it's always a bit awkward when team mates have to play against each other. So it wouldn't be good to have 10 players in the same team. Let's say the 50 players will correspond to the current top 50 in the current vote. The only teams exceeding 5 are Liquid and Mouz both with 6 players. It doesn't look like a huge limitation, especially if you consider that some of their player may play in GSL instead of NASL. | ||
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