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Pertan
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden33 Posts
March 01 2011 14:38 GMT
#941
Getting Diggity to cast this got me 110% more interested in NASL.
One of the most clever and professional commentators out there!
"It's not that he's dumb, he's just neural parasited by a retarded infestor"
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
March 02 2011 05:06 GMT
#942
On March 01 2011 22:54 Maynarde wrote:
But you will see the player emotions won't you? I thought the final 16 in NASL was offline? Perhaps I'm misinformed.

oh yea totally for the final 16 but that happens over 1 weekend the bulk of the tournament is going to be offline, like 9 weeks of offline and 1 weekend for the finals or something like that.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
jonusb4
Profile Joined March 2011
6 Posts
March 02 2011 06:14 GMT
#943
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D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
March 04 2011 00:23 GMT
#944
I want NASL to succeed, but I do have some concerns and I hope someone is listening out there.

I won't talk too much about the value of livesteams because it's been said already, and better than I could have. Someone brought up the whole "backseat players" which is impossible to detect in an online tourney. This is spot on.

About this restriction on how many Koreans are allowed in. Safe to assume Koreans from Korea, and not Koreans who have NA citizenship and so on. I think they simply want a better chance for a North Americans to win the prize pool, instead of someone from Korea taking all the money and running...which...isn't unfair really...but does imply some favoritism, but again it's impossible to be completely impartial being that this is the NASL and with it carries some nationalism. Being from Europe carries no such ban/restriction, which makes the restriction against Koreans a bit eyebrow-raising.

I do wonder what the Korean perspective is on this though. "We make no restrictions against foreigners in our country, but yet they impose restrictions on us?" wouldn't be completely out of tune.

GSL vs NASL. It worries me that INControl is trying his damndest to make it very clear that NASL is not the GSL. Fair enough, we all know it won't be. But at the same time, it also feels as if, in order to make sure no one can possibly confuse the two, the NASL won't be taking many of the best things about the GSL. Live studios where you can watch the gamers in booths, the crowd atmosphere, the whole excitement and mood that really makes you realize how truly big this is.

To illustrate, I'm not exactly an American football fan. I never watch football on TV. But when I received two tickets to the game for my birthday years ago, I went. The experience watching in the stadium, versus just watching on TV, was incredible and made me understand, at least on some level, why people love football. You might argue "well it was free, you wouldn't have paid for those tickets", and I concede there. But the point I'm trying to make it, you lose something very tangible when there's just simply no live events that are broadcast. So NASL is only going to do the whole magical GSL thing at the very end? I really hope it's something special.

But something tells me it won't be. InControl doesn't want comparisons made to the GSL, and as such will do everything he can to make it as different as possible, to the point that it's no longer about differences in presentation style. It starts to become something that's more Korean vs American or European. Please don't let things happen as I described.

Honestly after watching some of these MSI tournies with Day9 and DJWheat...then comparing that level of production quality versus the GSL...seriously the difference is so vast that it's unfair to compare.

But here's something that really hurt even me. We will never know if that so-called investor is just a faker or impostor(the same guy who claimed he watched IdrA vs Jinro with his investor buddies and was so embarrassed he stopped due to the sound sync issues). On some level, I realize that the first impression really did look amateurish. Interviews of Jinro and IdrA in what appeared to be in a dark, poorly-lit basement, lag/sound sync issues, etc, which we can't blame everything on INControl for.

There was one comment that, for some reason, it really stung. It was the frat boy comment.
Ouch. InControl want to run this show "by the players" which is noble, and at the same time, at what professional cost? Like ppl have said, many of these fears might be completely unfounded and who knows, the first game of NASL might just blow us all away. I just really hope that someone out there is listening and taking valuable things away.

One last thing. "Basement dweller" comment by INControl. I hate to say this, but these "basement dwellers" are also CUSTOMERS.
Canada
gilligan156
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60 Posts
March 08 2011 19:54 GMT
#945
......LAN, you say? *raises eyebrow curiously*
gilligan156
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60 Posts
March 08 2011 19:58 GMT
#946
I plan to purchase a season pass as soon as it's available, I never did for GomTV because I haven't been happy with the level of translation they do(there's some english commentary but no translation for on-screen text, for example), and supporting Starcraft in North America seems like the right thing to do as a player, even if they do have some growing pains with this first season.
DeamonMachine
Profile Joined September 2010
United States28 Posts
March 09 2011 03:59 GMT
#947
Wow. this is really going to take e-sports in a new direction in the west. I can't wait for it, got my $ ready to buy a season pass for the high def scene. I can't imagine the spin-off streams this is going to create. I mean, like streams talking about their favorite players and stuff like that.
Bad Tomato No Tip!
mDuo13
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 18:41:26
March 09 2011 18:40 GMT
#948
On March 09 2011 04:58 gilligan156 wrote:
I plan to purchase a season pass as soon as it's available, I never did for GomTV because I haven't been happy with the level of translation they do(there's some english commentary but no translation for on-screen text, for example), and supporting Starcraft in North America seems like the right thing to do as a player, even if they do have some growing pains with this first season.

Actually, most of the onscreen text is translated now. I don't know what it was like early on, since I only watched a few live games before I bought a ticket this season, but nowadays the players are even using IDs written in English rather than Hangul to make it easier on foreigners. The interview translations are often not really complete, but overall, GSL is very foreigner-friendly right now.

GomTV is setting the bar very high. NASL and GSL are different, but they are still competitors in the same market. I seriously hope that the people in charge of NASL recognize that and don't try not to copy some of GSL's best features just because they're "different".
jazzminkey
Profile Joined December 2010
United States53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 14:52:19
March 18 2011 14:12 GMT
#949
KallWest
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany24 Posts
March 18 2011 15:51 GMT
#950
On February 26 2011 06:53 Gretorp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 06:19 cheesemaster wrote:
On February 26 2011 04:35 Gretorp wrote:
Just to get it out there, I will not be playing in the league. Want to take any speculation out of that.

Thank you!

Glad to hear that, not because you are a bad player, just because you even said yourself that you havent been playing much recently (job etc.) I was defenetly a fan of yours at MLG but then you sort of fell off the radar didnt hear to much of you. Gl in the future though. I was critical of both yours and Incontrols casting abilities at the showmatch so i hope you guys will practice up and impress us for the NASL!


Definitely, and I've been taking it very serious. I've been analyzing my casts, and I'm looking to get lessons in casting from professional casters. Constructive criticism is always welcomed :-)


I don't know if it's been said, but I do have some constructive criticism. I watched the Gosucoaching matches yesterday and I have two points that I think would be worth while for you to improve upon.

1. This one is not as big a deal as number 2 but still. Your style of commentating seems to be very play-by-play, which is fine because I know some people prefer that, but you sometimes take it a little too far. When there is not much noteworthy going on, it might be a good idea to just talk about the history of the players more in-depth or joke around with your co-caster a little. Sheth did a really good job here. I felt that when he saw something really noteworthy, he explained it very well and showed a good understanding of the Strategy involved, without noting miniscule things. And, of course, Tastosis is the ultimate example of good casting as they strike the perfect balance of play by play and analysis.

2. You really seem to want to bring across excitement. And in that attempt you end up stressing every second syllable of what you are saying. When the moment does call for excitement, you do the same thing, just louder, and that becomes very stressful to listen to. There is nothing wrong in speaking in your normal talking voice while there is nothing exciting going on. I think your casting would be much better if you try to be as natural as possible.

Again, these are meant to be constructive suggestions; if I am the only one who feels this way or if it's been said before, I apologize!
underdawg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States399 Posts
March 27 2011 17:44 GMT
#951
On March 09 2011 04:58 gilligan156 wrote:
I plan to purchase a season pass as soon as it's available, I never did for GomTV because I haven't been happy with the level of translation they do(there's some english commentary but no translation for on-screen text, for example), and supporting Starcraft in North America seems like the right thing to do as a player, even if they do have some growing pains with this first season.

on screen text is english now

??
photomuse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States102 Posts
March 29 2011 21:49 GMT
#952
Any official word on when NASL is starting? I see no information on their website, the official FAQ on team liquid, or the FAQ on their website. If it is April 6th, then it seems weird that there is no prominent information to that effect anywhere.

MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
April 03 2011 14:24 GMT
#953
Think I'll wait and see. TSL3 kinda showed that cross continent internets makes for a different playing field and possibly different playing styles. Unless the Koreans prepare for it, will probably be disappointing. Wondering how many good games the first few stages will pop out. Although to NASLs credit I think it will get much more tense as the group play ends, and makes for much hyping. 25 bucks for that many games is really a decent deal though and not unreasonable, especially if the money gets funneled back into a season 2.

Caster wise haven't seen enough of Gretorp or incontrol to really say but from watching Tastosis from GSL1 to now it takes ages to really get comfortable and natural so I wouldn't harp on them too much if they aren't bringin orgasms to your ears from day 1.

Just as a random point, I really like how GSL shows the Cheerfuls at slow bits while Tastosis makes small talk and hope that NASL can do something similar.
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
April 04 2011 11:46 GMT
#954
Surprisingly, Thisisgame.com comes out on top in the battle for releasing the full group schedule
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Avalain
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada308 Posts
April 04 2011 20:02 GMT
#955
On March 28 2011 02:44 underdawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 04:58 gilligan156 wrote:
I plan to purchase a season pass as soon as it's available, I never did for GomTV because I haven't been happy with the level of translation they do(there's some english commentary but no translation for on-screen text, for example), and supporting Starcraft in North America seems like the right thing to do as a player, even if they do have some growing pains with this first season.

on screen text is english now

??


One thing I noticed is that they seem to use the Korean observer while they announce the players, and then switch to the English observer. So you (and by you, I obviously mean gilligan) should probably give it another try and watch past the intros.
You know what unit really has balance problems? Colossi. Why, they look like they could be blown over in a stiff wind!
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
April 12 2011 12:35 GMT
#956
Apparently, you can only watch the NASL having a ticket and you can only have a ticket when you have a credit card.

I'd say it's save to assume that about 99% of German viewers and 90% of European fans don't have a credit card.

Too bad...
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