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Pertan
Sweden33 Posts
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On March 01 2011 22:54 Maynarde wrote: But you will see the player emotions won't you? I thought the final 16 in NASL was offline? Perhaps I'm misinformed. oh yea totally for the final 16 but that happens over 1 weekend the bulk of the tournament is going to be offline, like 9 weeks of offline and 1 weekend for the finals or something like that. | ||
jonusb4
6 Posts
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
I won't talk too much about the value of livesteams because it's been said already, and better than I could have. Someone brought up the whole "backseat players" which is impossible to detect in an online tourney. This is spot on. About this restriction on how many Koreans are allowed in. Safe to assume Koreans from Korea, and not Koreans who have NA citizenship and so on. I think they simply want a better chance for a North Americans to win the prize pool, instead of someone from Korea taking all the money and running...which...isn't unfair really...but does imply some favoritism, but again it's impossible to be completely impartial being that this is the NASL and with it carries some nationalism. Being from Europe carries no such ban/restriction, which makes the restriction against Koreans a bit eyebrow-raising. I do wonder what the Korean perspective is on this though. "We make no restrictions against foreigners in our country, but yet they impose restrictions on us?" wouldn't be completely out of tune. GSL vs NASL. It worries me that INControl is trying his damndest to make it very clear that NASL is not the GSL. Fair enough, we all know it won't be. But at the same time, it also feels as if, in order to make sure no one can possibly confuse the two, the NASL won't be taking many of the best things about the GSL. Live studios where you can watch the gamers in booths, the crowd atmosphere, the whole excitement and mood that really makes you realize how truly big this is. To illustrate, I'm not exactly an American football fan. I never watch football on TV. But when I received two tickets to the game for my birthday years ago, I went. The experience watching in the stadium, versus just watching on TV, was incredible and made me understand, at least on some level, why people love football. You might argue "well it was free, you wouldn't have paid for those tickets", and I concede there. But the point I'm trying to make it, you lose something very tangible when there's just simply no live events that are broadcast. So NASL is only going to do the whole magical GSL thing at the very end? I really hope it's something special. But something tells me it won't be. InControl doesn't want comparisons made to the GSL, and as such will do everything he can to make it as different as possible, to the point that it's no longer about differences in presentation style. It starts to become something that's more Korean vs American or European. Please don't let things happen as I described. Honestly after watching some of these MSI tournies with Day9 and DJWheat...then comparing that level of production quality versus the GSL...seriously the difference is so vast that it's unfair to compare. But here's something that really hurt even me. We will never know if that so-called investor is just a faker or impostor(the same guy who claimed he watched IdrA vs Jinro with his investor buddies and was so embarrassed he stopped due to the sound sync issues). On some level, I realize that the first impression really did look amateurish. Interviews of Jinro and IdrA in what appeared to be in a dark, poorly-lit basement, lag/sound sync issues, etc, which we can't blame everything on INControl for. There was one comment that, for some reason, it really stung. It was the frat boy comment. Ouch. InControl want to run this show "by the players" which is noble, and at the same time, at what professional cost? Like ppl have said, many of these fears might be completely unfounded and who knows, the first game of NASL might just blow us all away. I just really hope that someone out there is listening and taking valuable things away. One last thing. "Basement dweller" comment by INControl. I hate to say this, but these "basement dwellers" are also CUSTOMERS. | ||
gilligan156
United States60 Posts
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gilligan156
United States60 Posts
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DeamonMachine
United States28 Posts
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mDuo13
United States307 Posts
On March 09 2011 04:58 gilligan156 wrote: I plan to purchase a season pass as soon as it's available, I never did for GomTV because I haven't been happy with the level of translation they do(there's some english commentary but no translation for on-screen text, for example), and supporting Starcraft in North America seems like the right thing to do as a player, even if they do have some growing pains with this first season. Actually, most of the onscreen text is translated now. I don't know what it was like early on, since I only watched a few live games before I bought a ticket this season, but nowadays the players are even using IDs written in English rather than Hangul to make it easier on foreigners. The interview translations are often not really complete, but overall, GSL is very foreigner-friendly right now. GomTV is setting the bar very high. NASL and GSL are different, but they are still competitors in the same market. I seriously hope that the people in charge of NASL recognize that and don't try not to copy some of GSL's best features just because they're "different". | ||
jazzminkey
United States53 Posts
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KallWest
Germany24 Posts
On February 26 2011 06:53 Gretorp wrote: Definitely, and I've been taking it very serious. I've been analyzing my casts, and I'm looking to get lessons in casting from professional casters. Constructive criticism is always welcomed :-) I don't know if it's been said, but I do have some constructive criticism. I watched the Gosucoaching matches yesterday and I have two points that I think would be worth while for you to improve upon. 1. This one is not as big a deal as number 2 but still. Your style of commentating seems to be very play-by-play, which is fine because I know some people prefer that, but you sometimes take it a little too far. When there is not much noteworthy going on, it might be a good idea to just talk about the history of the players more in-depth or joke around with your co-caster a little. Sheth did a really good job here. I felt that when he saw something really noteworthy, he explained it very well and showed a good understanding of the Strategy involved, without noting miniscule things. And, of course, Tastosis is the ultimate example of good casting as they strike the perfect balance of play by play and analysis. 2. You really seem to want to bring across excitement. And in that attempt you end up stressing every second syllable of what you are saying. When the moment does call for excitement, you do the same thing, just louder, and that becomes very stressful to listen to. There is nothing wrong in speaking in your normal talking voice while there is nothing exciting going on. I think your casting would be much better if you try to be as natural as possible. Again, these are meant to be constructive suggestions; if I am the only one who feels this way or if it's been said before, I apologize! | ||
underdawg
United States399 Posts
On March 09 2011 04:58 gilligan156 wrote: I plan to purchase a season pass as soon as it's available, I never did for GomTV because I haven't been happy with the level of translation they do(there's some english commentary but no translation for on-screen text, for example), and supporting Starcraft in North America seems like the right thing to do as a player, even if they do have some growing pains with this first season. on screen text is english now ?? | ||
photomuse
United States102 Posts
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Caster wise haven't seen enough of Gretorp or incontrol to really say but from watching Tastosis from GSL1 to now it takes ages to really get comfortable and natural so I wouldn't harp on them too much if they aren't bringin orgasms to your ears from day 1. Just as a random point, I really like how GSL shows the Cheerfuls at slow bits while Tastosis makes small talk and hope that NASL can do something similar. | ||
zere
Germany1287 Posts
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Avalain
Canada308 Posts
One thing I noticed is that they seem to use the Korean observer while they announce the players, and then switch to the English observer. So you (and by you, I obviously mean gilligan) should probably give it another try and watch past the intros. | ||
caruso
Germany733 Posts
I'd say it's save to assume that about 99% of German viewers and 90% of European fans don't have a credit card. Too bad... | ||
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