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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3482 Posts
February 22 2011 20:48 GMT
#761
On February 23 2011 05:35 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 05:32 heaven- wrote:
I don't mean to be negative. I said this before but doesn't the fact that there is zero mention of sponsors worry you a little bit????
The prize money is ridiculously high for zero sponsorship?? Or am I missing something.



Don't worry about it !

Is there anything you can't do?
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Alizee-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States845 Posts
February 22 2011 20:50 GMT
#762
This sounds totally absurd to me. NORTH AMERICAN Star League....yet people want to see Koreans, Europeans, etc. How in the hell is this going to grow North America if you just insert players from around the world?

If it was something like the now deceased Championship Gaming Series, you would actually have people move to America for it, not just play on a NA server and then have to fly in one time just for the finals. Sorry, but I think allowing any foriegners(in regards to anyone outside North America) is stupid.

Maybe if this league eventually becomes more than 90% internet based allow people to relocate to America and play in it, until then, having a big tournament and getting players from all over to play on the NA server is dumb to me. My comparison would be having the WCG Grand Finals in America...but Koreans still win it. That doesn't really put America any better off, it doesn't develop the talent here any more it just provides a platform and money for everyone else to scoop up.

I just don't get the point of calling it North American when it is only on a technicality.
Strength behind the Pride
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
February 22 2011 20:51 GMT
#763
On February 23 2011 05:47 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 05:45 vicariouscheese wrote:
On February 23 2011 05:42 YouGotNothin wrote:
Starcraft is going to become so popular because of NASL and then when all my friends are like man this is awesome, don't you play Starcraft? And I'll be like hell yeah I do. And then all the girls will want to be in my pants.


you had me until girls


but that would be the best marketing strategy for this projekt, dont you think? ^^


You have to convince them that you were the winner and got 100k, then I think they'll get in your pants. Not because of starcraft... but I guess you have to start somewhere
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
February 22 2011 20:51 GMT
#764
On February 23 2011 05:47 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 05:45 vicariouscheese wrote:
On February 23 2011 05:42 YouGotNothin wrote:
Starcraft is going to become so popular because of NASL and then when all my friends are like man this is awesome, don't you play Starcraft? And I'll be like hell yeah I do. And then all the girls will want to be in my pants.


you had me until girls


but that would be the best marketing strategy for this projekt, dont you think? ^^


Starcraft Girls for the NASL, yes I can see it now, they'll be like cheerleaders at football games, except hotter because they'll be dressed up like Kerrigan (human Kerrigan not that icky other one).
I got nothin'...
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
February 22 2011 20:56 GMT
#765
On February 23 2011 05:51 YouGotNothin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 05:47 BlueFlames wrote:
On February 23 2011 05:45 vicariouscheese wrote:
On February 23 2011 05:42 YouGotNothin wrote:
Starcraft is going to become so popular because of NASL and then when all my friends are like man this is awesome, don't you play Starcraft? And I'll be like hell yeah I do. And then all the girls will want to be in my pants.


you had me until girls


but that would be the best marketing strategy for this projekt, dont you think? ^^


Starcraft Girls for the NASL, yes I can see it now, they'll be like cheerleaders at football games, except hotter because they'll be dressed up like Kerrigan (human Kerrigan not that icky other one).


Kerrigan and Nova lookalikes dancing the Firebathero dance or Yellows dance anyone? I would pay just to see that happening.^^
CASLsoju
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 22 2011 21:05 GMT
#766
On February 23 2011 02:25 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 02:23 eveo wrote:
On February 23 2011 02:22 Doso wrote:
400k without a single word on the Sponsor.. seriously.. wtf?


This entire thing is horribly organized.


you are absolutely right. it has not even started yet, but it is clear that this is the worst thing that ever happened to esport. [/endsarcasm]


It's all the little things that matter and once you put them together, you get an idea. Here are a few things I've noticed:

No ingame timer
No health bars

Bad graphics, the website, even if it is just a splash. For something THIS big and not made to look amazing really sucks. At the very least shell out like 2k for a professional designer to at least make your image look good.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
February 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#767
On February 23 2011 05:50 Alizee- wrote:
This sounds totally absurd to me. NORTH AMERICAN Star League....yet people want to see Koreans, Europeans, etc. How in the hell is this going to grow North America if you just insert players from around the world?

If it was something like the now deceased Championship Gaming Series, you would actually have people move to America for it, not just play on a NA server and then have to fly in one time just for the finals. Sorry, but I think allowing any foriegners(in regards to anyone outside North America) is stupid.

Maybe if this league eventually becomes more than 90% internet based allow people to relocate to America and play in it, until then, having a big tournament and getting players from all over to play on the NA server is dumb to me. My comparison would be having the WCG Grand Finals in America...but Koreans still win it. That doesn't really put America any better off, it doesn't develop the talent here any more it just provides a platform and money for everyone else to scoop up.

I just don't get the point of calling it North American when it is only on a technicality.


Seriously, you put in all the effort to complain that anyone is allowed in despite being held in the in the US and being called the NASL? If you want to have a great tournament you need to allow the best players from anywhere. Plus, this isn't like BW where some B-team guy would wipe the floor with 99.9% of Americans. And a tournament like this isn't to develop talent, it's to create interest and buzz around an event that normally attracts very little here. If you really think that not allowing Koreans would be better to do that I think that's pretty crazy.

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arterian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1157 Posts
February 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#768
[QUOTE]On February 23 2011 05:50 Alizee- wrote:
This sounds totally absurd to me. NORTH AMERICAN Star League....yet people want to see Koreans, Europeans, etc. How in the hell is this going to grow North America if you just insert players from around the world?

If it was something like the now deceased Championship Gaming Series, you would actually have people move to America for it, not just play on a NA server and then have to fly in one time just for the finals. Sorry, but I think allowing any foriegners(in regards to anyone outside North America) is stupid.

Maybe if this league eventually becomes more than 90% internet based allow people to relocate to America and play in it, until then, having a big tournament and getting players from all over to play on the NA server is dumb to me. My comparison would be having the WCG Grand Finals in America...but Koreans still win it. That doesn't really put America any better off, it doesn't develop the talent here any more it just provides a platform and money for everyone else to scoop up.

The point is that it is now practical for Americans to play in a GSL style tournament with GSL style prizes. GSL is extremely practical for Koreans, and now NASL will be extremely practical for Americans.

As far as I know, Koreans will still face the same challenges that Americans face now, which is flying over, finding a place to stay and having a high chance of winning absolutely nothing. The difference essentially is that the NASL has their qualifiers online lessening the likelihood players from all over, not just Korea, will not have to commit anything until they have a semi-realistic chance of winning money. That is how you grow E-Sports.
http://www.twitch.tv/arterian
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
February 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#769
What is considered a team?

Like... what are the requirements to be a "team"?

for example, can i get a few of my buddies to say "ya, we are a part of blah-blah-blah, and wish to apply for NASL?"

or is it something like getting a team manager, sponsor, etc?
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
February 22 2011 21:16 GMT
#770
On February 23 2011 05:50 Alizee- wrote:
This sounds totally absurd to me. NORTH AMERICAN Star League....yet people want to see Koreans, Europeans, etc. How in the hell is this going to grow North America if you just insert players from around the world?

because it is being played in North america...and on the NA servers.

i personally think it doesn't matter as much who plays as where it is played...sc2 is a spectator sport for most of us, so it will be easier to transition into being able to watch these high level games in person if they are being played in the US.
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 21:19:39
February 22 2011 21:17 GMT
#771
On February 23 2011 06:05 eveo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 02:25 BlueFlames wrote:
On February 23 2011 02:23 eveo wrote:
On February 23 2011 02:22 Doso wrote:
400k without a single word on the Sponsor.. seriously.. wtf?


This entire thing is horribly organized.


you are absolutely right. it has not even started yet, but it is clear that this is the worst thing that ever happened to esport. [/endsarcasm]


It's all the little things that matter and once you put them together, you get an idea. Here are a few things I've noticed:

No ingame timer
No health bars

Bad graphics, the website, even if it is just a splash. For something THIS big and not made to look amazing really sucks. At the very least shell out like 2k for a professional designer to at least make your image look good.


i dont disagree, but its not the end of the (esports) world like some people want to make it out to be. sure it was a rough start, but that does not say anything about the actual product itself. it only means that incontrol and greatorp dont know what kind of expectations they have to satisfy. They arent the ones that are going to be responsible for the entire production. Incontrol said it himself in the interview. The project was decided and than he was "hired". So if he cant deliver ... he will be replaced. Its that simple. There is a lot on the line for the people who are lending their money. So even though the clash of titans did anger a lot of people. It is in no way an indication of the work of the other parties involved.
I personally am sure that Incontrol will bash a lot of people on sotg today and he will vent like always, but i have no doubt in my mind that he will make sure, that something like clash of titans never happens again and i am sure that the other parties involved make sure it wont happen a third time ...

Note: I am making him responsible for it cause it was his hypebuilding and it was his stream.
orotoss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States298 Posts
February 22 2011 21:17 GMT
#772
I think as long as they are willing to cooperate with some outside help, they will be fine. This kind of project can't be run by just a few guys with little experience in things like graphic design, livestreaming, organizing tournaments, programming websites, advertising, etc. There are so many people that are willing to contribute their skills to this league.

What they need is a big studio with audience seating, professional-looking graphics and advertising, a team of camera-men, someone to organize and conduct tournaments, someone to ensure that the livestream and vods go through smoothly, competent commentators with genuine personality, and a well organized website. This will require a big team to make sure no disasters occur.

If they got day9 it would be great but I'd prefer if he waited a year or two, or just started up a rival league with higher quality and a competent team. If day9 joined the NASL team and this first season is an epic failure, his reputation will be greatly affected and his future as a commentator will be somewhat compromised.
BLARRGHGHH
Morning
Profile Joined February 2011
18 Posts
February 22 2011 21:17 GMT
#773
I, personally, think this is going to be great for esports in the west. A tournament happening every day, rather than just a weekend every now and then? It'll be great, appealing to a wider audience of viewers.

I, for one, am really looking forward to this.
stephiso
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada26 Posts
February 22 2011 21:18 GMT
#774
On February 23 2011 03:29 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 03:27 stephiso wrote:
I'm curious to know why IdrA forfeitted for the GSL March since NASL only starts on April 11th? Any body knows why?

He didn't forfeit in the GSL because of a conflict with the NASL. He forfeited because he's leaving Korea.


Why doesn't he leave Korea later? NASL only starts on April 11th, that's what I'm asking. He is already qualified in code S anyways, might as well give it a shot (yesterday he was supposed to play)...and go home if he did not make it through
goldengold
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway61 Posts
February 22 2011 21:18 GMT
#775
On February 23 2011 06:14 Keitzer wrote:
What is considered a team?

Like... what are the requirements to be a "team"?

for example, can i get a few of my buddies to say "ya, we are a part of blah-blah-blah, and wish to apply for NASL?"

or is it something like getting a team manager, sponsor, etc?



I'm pretty sure a 'team' needs to have players that have regularly participated in tournaments, online and offline, and obviously shown some sort of good results.
AltForNorge
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
February 22 2011 21:20 GMT
#776
On February 23 2011 06:18 stephiso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 03:29 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On February 23 2011 03:27 stephiso wrote:
I'm curious to know why IdrA forfeitted for the GSL March since NASL only starts on April 11th? Any body knows why?

He didn't forfeit in the GSL because of a conflict with the NASL. He forfeited because he's leaving Korea.


Why doesn't he leave Korea later? NASL only starts on April 11th, that's what I'm asking. He is already qualified in code S anyways, might as well give it a shot (yesterday he was supposed to play)...and go home if he did not make it through


It's pretty unprofessional not to appear too.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
February 22 2011 21:22 GMT
#777
Big props to Incontrol, Gretorp and the other fellows for venturing down this path. I hope they realise what an immense assignment this is! Best of luck guys, I'm looking forward to this!
Dead girls don't say no.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
February 22 2011 21:23 GMT
#778
As long as this thing doesn't turn into a CGS gong show, than i'd gladly pay and watch it. But... If it turns into a bright blue/red shirt wearing, fake celebration, my support is out the window. CGS sucked hard.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 21:25:07
February 22 2011 21:24 GMT
#779
20-25$ for a season ? a gsl season cost like 9,99 ?

i think it should be like max 19.99$ then all fine (as long as it includes high quality vods because i wont be able to watch it live)
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
February 22 2011 21:27 GMT
#780
Again, the price is for 10 weeks, the gsl is 4 weeks. You guys who complaine do the math.
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
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