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On February 23 2011 04:17 Sapphire.lux wrote:
How would that work? You share your profit from the 100 replays with the 100 players that you played against? Will every player be required to have a credit card account attached to it's battlnet account? This will never happen.
Wow, what a tool you are. The NASL hasn't even released info on IF they will sell replays, there's just the one interview with iNcontroL. They certainly haven't stated how it would work if they did sell replays, so how can you say it will never happen? Quit the BM and just comment on what we know, not some obscure topic like how replay sales would work, if Blizzard will allow them, and whether or not they'll happen.
I'm going to build my own house next year and you're arguing with me about the merits of signing up for the NHL season package once my cable service is installed. Stay in the now folks.
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I just want to say that I am very excited about this league. This is by far the largest amount of money invested in a StarCraft II related venture in North America to date. Like they said, it isn't going to be perfect the first time, but if you as an individual want to see esports flourish in the U.S., it would be a good idea to purchase a subscription, because if this investment doesn't turn out to be profitable, it will probably be a long time before anyone is willing to put so much into the StarCraft community again...
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i dont know what has been said about this, but please please dont limit the number of koreans!
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i hope everyone decides to buy the season pass or whatever its called. 20 dollars is a small price to pay to support the NASL and get better quality and vods as a good bonus.
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On February 23 2011 05:01 blitzmacht wrote:
I just want to say that I am very excited about this league. This is by far the largest amount of money invested in a StarCraft II related venture in North America to date. Like they said, it isn't going to be perfect the first time, but if you as an individual want to see esports flourish in the U.S., it would be a good idea to purchase a subscription, because if this investment doesn't turn out to be profitable, it will probably be a long time before anyone is willing to put so much into the StarCraft community again...
well i couldn't have said it better. i personally feel that if we all join together by simply purchasing it we can seriously promote the sc2 community and even be able to compete. heck if the first seasons do well enough incontrol even said he would be open to televising it. imagine what they could do with not only income from g4tv.com but then commercials. imagine how many more big named sponsors they could get? it would make such a difference for each person to spend the little extra money.....
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On February 23 2011 00:38 CursedFeanor wrote:
On the price tag
20 bucks is about what you'll pay (if you're very reasonable) for any type of night out with friends. It's about 2 beers in a bar... geez it's NOTHING!
 I'm guessing a lot of dudes here have never seen the inside of a bar, but I like your comparison as I find it difficult to balance drinking and laddering, myself. Too bad they don't go well together.
Twenty a season to watch this stuff sounds reasonable to me. The only thing I'm worried about is that with so many matches it's going to be tough to decide which ones to watch. I've got drinking and laddering to do too. And then there's that job...
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I disagree with people that just outright call for support for this due to the large prize pool. If you have 20 bucks to spare without getting the actual production value equivalent for it, you might as well donate it to any of the other well run events that you can watch for free and tell them to add it to their prize pool.
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On February 23 2011 04:59 SC2kenjiro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 04:17 Sapphire.lux wrote:
How would that work? You share your profit from the 100 replays with the 100 players that you played against? Will every player be required to have a credit card account attached to it's battlnet account? This will never happen.
Wow, what a tool you are. The NASL hasn't even released info on IF they will sell replays, there's just the one interview with iNcontroL. They certainly haven't stated how it would work if they did sell replays, so how can you say it will never happen? Quit the BM and just comment on what we know, not some obscure topic like how replay sales would work, if Blizzard will allow them, and whether or not they'll happen. I'm going to build my own house next year and you're arguing with me about the merits of signing up for the NHL season package once my cable service is installed. Stay in the now folks.
Brother Mack should pray for you,you lost soul.
It was about the future market place.
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I'll definitely be willing to spare 20 bucks for something like this.
On the note of production value, I'd love for them to give the broadcast more of a flashy professional studio-type feel instead of the green screen, more like the gsl/espn aura. It was pretty cool when they had the game screen displaying behind them though.
I'm not worried about the 5-man team limit or the 5 Korean limit. I think it could be really entertaining regardless and I like that they're trying to give all the teams representation.
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On February 23 2011 05:21 eloist wrote:
I disagree with people that just outright call for support for this due to the large prize pool. If you have 20 bucks to spare without getting the actual production value equivalent for it, you might as well donate it to any of the other well run events that you can watch for free and tell them to add it to their prize pool.
You are absolutly right, but its also wrong to talk about the production value of something that
has not been done yet. We dont know anything. Could be they arent even far enough to do this
production by themselves and Graetorp and Incontrol had to do this in SirScoots basement.
The stream will be free and you can make up your mind after you have seen the actual production.
If it sucks than dont buy it, because supporting the wrong people for the sake of e-sports is bs.
If it is good than spend the money with the knowledge that you will get entertained and did something good for the sc2-scene.
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I'm fine with limiting Korean involvement to encourage the growth of Western Esports. The reason Korea is already pulling away is because they have so many full-time gamers dedicating all of their time to SC2 at the moment. Outside of Korea, there are very few who are able to compete full time or in a team environment like that, and that puts the scene well behind. Having this situation where there is enough $$$ on the line to legitimately make a living increases the likelihood that players will be able to dedicate themselves to the game and that means a vast increase in their own skill level.
Nobody should want the SC2 scene to end up the way the BW scene did, with even the top foreigners being so far from the top Koreans that it feels like a Professional athlete vs high schoolers. I'm fine with sacrificing a little competition now in order to reap the benefits later if it brings stability.
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I don't mean to be negative. I said this before but doesn't the fact that there is zero mention of sponsors worry you a little bit????
The prize money is ridiculously high for zero sponsorship?? Or am I missing something.
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Id pay 20$ for this if the production is good. Im not a fan of replay casting or pre-made casting videos. Live is the way to go imo.
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On February 23 2011 05:32 heaven- wrote:
I don't mean to be negative. I said this before but doesn't the fact that there is zero mention of sponsors worry you a little bit????
The prize money is ridiculously high for zero sponsorship?? Or am I missing something.
Don't worry about it !
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On February 23 2011 05:32 heaven- wrote:
I don't mean to be negative. I said this before but doesn't the fact that there is zero mention of sponsors worry you a little bit????
The prize money is ridiculously high for zero sponsorship?? Or am I missing something.
What they don't tell you is that after the 16 person lan, after the finals when everybody goes out drinking, unless you won there is a good chance you'll wake up in a bathtub full of ice missing your liver.
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On February 23 2011 05:32 heaven- wrote:
I don't mean to be negative. I said this before but doesn't the fact that there is zero mention of sponsors worry you a little bit????
The prize money is ridiculously high for zero sponsorship?? Or am I missing something.
read the interview. than read it again. and if you still dont understand the informations that were given than write incontrol a message.
why the hell would i be worried that they did not release all the information over 1 month before the start? you dont want to be negative but you are. do you think that eg, fanatic and gosucouching are all just really big jokes? telling people they have the finances for the whole thing secured when they dont? if they were to lie anyone involved could never again show their face anywhere. sc2 might not make it into tv, but a news like that would. they would get sued into oblivion.
damn just be positive ok?
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Starcraft is going to become so popular because of NASL and then when all my friends are like man this is awesome, don't you play Starcraft? And I'll be like hell yeah I do. And then all the girls will want to be in my pants.
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On February 23 2011 05:42 YouGotNothin wrote:
Starcraft is going to become so popular because of NASL and then when all my friends are like man this is awesome, don't you play Starcraft? And I'll be like hell yeah I do. And then all the girls will want to be in my pants.
you had me until girls
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On February 22 2011 18:21 Panicc wrote:
How can anyone with a clear mind think about a livestudio with offline games? Western esport is quite different. We are not playing in one town in one country and do nothing else. I think quite a few progamers or most of them have an other job @cheesemaster. That was just a stupid comment from you...
I totally see where you are coming from but if you are getting the best of the best from north american and europe and they ARE PRO gamers as in that is their career choice, they would come to an offline tournament with such a prize pool, i mean hell look at all the foreigners that have travelled all the way to korea just to try and qualify for the gsl (not many have actually made it) but if it works that people can move to somewhere half way across the world and live in a place where they dont even speak the same language i think its more than feasible that an offline league of gsl's quality would totally work in the united states. I think actually it would be alot more accesible in LA then half way across the world in korea and people still travel there to try and get in the gsl so i dont see how its a stupid comment, its 50 people are you telling me there isnt 50 pro gamers in the west (and some in korea) who arent serious enough about the game to travel to LA to try out this tournament for a season or more?
Im sure alot of those same people would travel all the way to korea should they be invited to code a and that is way more of a commitment. Also i dont want to see as you say " I think quite a few progamers or most of them have an other job " I dont want to see them i want to see the best of the best the progamers that are on a team practice 10 hours a day and are actually serious about the game. Succesful progamers not scrubs whos teams cant support them or they cant support themselves enough to have starcraft as their career choice.
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On February 23 2011 05:45 vicariouscheese wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 05:42 YouGotNothin wrote:
Starcraft is going to become so popular because of NASL and then when all my friends are like man this is awesome, don't you play Starcraft? And I'll be like hell yeah I do. And then all the girls will want to be in my pants. you had me until girls
but that would be the best marketing strategy for this projekt, dont you think? ^^
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