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Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 18:03:21
February 22 2011 18:02 GMT
#701
Eligibility: Anyone can apply (including Koreans), as long as they are on a gaming team (not sure if the team has to meet some set level of sponsorship/notoriety) and they commit to go to the July LAN held in California. Incontrol stated that perhaps there will be a cap on Koreans at five max, but this isn't set in stone. There is a cap on the number of players from each team, set at five. EG and Liquid, in other words, can have no more than five players in the event.


So i had a team question. If i group up 5 sc2 buddys and we go down to KFC and get official sponsership, we qualify? (Live close to L.A.)
ponyo.848
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
February 22 2011 18:03 GMT
#702
It's a work in progress folks.

I think $25 a season might be steep if they're still working the kinks out, but GSL wasn't exactly a smooth ride either in the first season.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
February 22 2011 18:04 GMT
#703
On February 23 2011 02:03 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 01:54 Alou wrote:
On February 23 2011 01:52 Sapphire.lux wrote:
""We're talking about creating additional content as well like giving them access to replays but then we thought that was kind of silly because it only takes one person to get a replay and then the whole internet has the replay.""


No available replays is BS, sorry. Sell the "show" (games commented, production value, etc) but make the frekin replays available for their education value. I hope Blizzard puts an end to this practice (Gom)


I would love for replays to be released like a week after. Like week 1 replays are in a pack released on Week 2 or something. But I think they might be putting it as paid content if I remember reading that on the FAQ or something.


I think it's against the ToS to sell replays. So only possibilities is that they just don't release them or they release them. Selling them would cause a shit storm I think.

This is true, you are not allowed to sell replays since you don't own them in the first place.
You can't sell what is not yours.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
February 22 2011 18:04 GMT
#704
Ok, so lets pretend the money is from Blizzard:

Poll: Would you rather have seen MLG get that 400k from Blizzard?

No (73)
 
51%

Yes (70)
 
49%

143 total votes

Your vote: Would you rather have seen MLG get that 400k from Blizzard?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
February 22 2011 18:04 GMT
#705
The money would have been put to better use creating "Gosucoaching TSL 4" replacing PokerStrategy as main partner.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
February 22 2011 18:05 GMT
#706
On February 23 2011 03:04 hugman wrote:
Ok, so lets pretend the money is from Blizzard:

Poll: Would you rather have seen MLG get that 400k from Blizzard?

No (73)
 
51%

Yes (70)
 
49%

143 total votes

Your vote: Would you rather have seen MLG get that 400k from Blizzard?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No





It's not from Blizzard, it's from a private interest.
bmg4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany74 Posts
February 22 2011 18:05 GMT
#707
On February 23 2011 02:58 trancey_ wrote:
How can you compare the showmatch yesterday with a professionall league?
I'm pretty optimistic for the NASL with such a price pool they will hire professionals to do layout work, studio and so on, this should not be compared with the amateur cast of yesterday.



but thats the release statement they made themselves! how stupid would it be if they really said to themselves "ok lets do this huge kick-off announcement event tonight like amateurs, we need to rush for it now even if we are not technically ready yet"
this would just mean that they have no clue at all about marketing and stuff..

and they wont hire additional professionals, like incontrol already said in the interview

But it's definitely a grass roots effort in the sense that we're not hiring out, we're not getting crews to come in here. We're definitely getting trained by professionals but I mean it's gonna be run by Andre (Gretorp) and myself, Russ, Duncan, and the varying people surrounding GosuCoaching and our friends that kind of came together and helped put this together.
SC2kenjiro
Profile Joined February 2011
11 Posts
February 22 2011 18:07 GMT
#708
On February 22 2011 15:18 ChThoniC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 15:12 On_Slaught wrote:
Going to be tough having to pay for the HQ passes for 3 leagues now (MLG, GSL, NASL) but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do for the community to continue to move up.


GSL: $10 for the best league in the world (players, production, commentators) and access to HD VODs for every match? No problem, a bargain even.
MLG: $10 for a weekend of randomly casted games in "HD" (which is still not good quality) and spotty at best production? LOL
NASL: $20-25 for ??? Still wait and see...


I think something you're missing here is amount of content. For $10 a month on GSL you get one month of content and VODs. For $10 with MLG you get a weekend of content.

For $20-25 with NASL, you get THREE MONTHS of 5-days-a-week content PLUS live casts from the Finals LAN tournament. Even if it takes the NASL folks a season or two to iron out the production bugs and improve the overall quality of their casts, this is STILL a tremendous bargain.

Plus, I don't have to get up at 3 a.m. PST to watch the matches live.

NO BRAINER!!!
SC2kenjiro
Profile Joined February 2011
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 18:09:13
February 22 2011 18:08 GMT
#709
On February 23 2011 03:04 hugman wrote:
Ok, so lets pretend the money is from Blizzard:

Poll: Would you rather have seen MLG get that 400k from Blizzard?

No (73)
 
51%

Yes (70)
 
49%

143 total votes

Your vote: Would you rather have seen MLG get that 400k from Blizzard?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No






Uh who cares where the money comes from? I mean, I agree I hope Blizzard is stepping up to financially support the NASL right here on their home terra firma the way they have always done for GSL, but $400,000 is $400,000 is $400,000. Me not care who wrote the check.
SC2kenjiro
Profile Joined February 2011
11 Posts
February 22 2011 18:10 GMT
#710
On February 23 2011 03:04 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 02:03 Numy wrote:
On February 23 2011 01:54 Alou wrote:
On February 23 2011 01:52 Sapphire.lux wrote:
""We're talking about creating additional content as well like giving them access to replays but then we thought that was kind of silly because it only takes one person to get a replay and then the whole internet has the replay.""


No available replays is BS, sorry. Sell the "show" (games commented, production value, etc) but make the frekin replays available for their education value. I hope Blizzard puts an end to this practice (Gom)


I would love for replays to be released like a week after. Like week 1 replays are in a pack released on Week 2 or something. But I think they might be putting it as paid content if I remember reading that on the FAQ or something.


I think it's against the ToS to sell replays. So only possibilities is that they just don't release them or they release them. Selling them would cause a shit storm I think.

This is true, you are not allowed to sell replays since you don't own them in the first place.
You can't sell what is not yours.


Uhh pretty sure if you establish tournament licensing from Blizzard that such an agreement would include the right to sell replays. I'm willing to bet the folks at NASL have such an agreement with Blizzard. Think people, think.
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
February 22 2011 18:10 GMT
#711
I have faith that the NASL guys realize they need to significantly improve the production quality of the casting and service.
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 18:12:08
February 22 2011 18:11 GMT
#712
On February 23 2011 03:08 SC2kenjiro wrote:
On February 23 2011 03:04 hugman wrote:
Ok, so lets pretend the money is from Blizzard:

Poll: Would you rather have seen MLG get that 400k from Blizzard?

No (73)
 
51%

Yes (70)
 
49%

143 total votes

Your vote: Would you rather have seen MLG get that 400k from Blizzard?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No






Ok now wait then. If it just went to MLG that would just be another event like ok cool. But NASL tv is supposed to be something like GSL's second coming in the states. Or did i misinterpret the whole purpose.
ponyo.848
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
February 22 2011 18:11 GMT
#713
No, I'd rather the bigger prize pool be dedicated to a Star League other than a gaming circuit. I'd rather go towards something that's gonna be on 5 days a week, rather than a weekend every few months.
ShamTao
Profile Joined September 2010
United States419 Posts
February 22 2011 18:12 GMT
#714
I'm glad this will get some of the big names playing for great money,and provide more opportunity for semi pro and amateur players in these lower cash tourneys
In the game of drones, you win or you die!
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
February 22 2011 18:12 GMT
#715
On February 23 2011 03:10 SC2kenjiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 03:04 Assirra wrote:
On February 23 2011 02:03 Numy wrote:
On February 23 2011 01:54 Alou wrote:
On February 23 2011 01:52 Sapphire.lux wrote:
""We're talking about creating additional content as well like giving them access to replays but then we thought that was kind of silly because it only takes one person to get a replay and then the whole internet has the replay.""


No available replays is BS, sorry. Sell the "show" (games commented, production value, etc) but make the frekin replays available for their education value. I hope Blizzard puts an end to this practice (Gom)


I would love for replays to be released like a week after. Like week 1 replays are in a pack released on Week 2 or something. But I think they might be putting it as paid content if I remember reading that on the FAQ or something.


I think it's against the ToS to sell replays. So only possibilities is that they just don't release them or they release them. Selling them would cause a shit storm I think.

This is true, you are not allowed to sell replays since you don't own them in the first place.
You can't sell what is not yours.


Uhh pretty sure if you establish tournament licensing from Blizzard that such an agreement would include the right to sell replays. I'm willing to bet the folks at NASL have such an agreement with Blizzard. Think people, think.


No you are obviously not allowed to sell replays. I could get into this deep but... let's just say Blizzard does not do something like that.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 18:31:57
February 22 2011 18:13 GMT
#716
On February 23 2011 03:04 hugman wrote:
Ok, so lets pretend the money is from Blizzard:

Poll: Would you rather have seen MLG get that 400k from Blizzard?

No (73)
 
51%

Yes (70)
 
49%

143 total votes

Your vote: Would you rather have seen MLG get that 400k from Blizzard?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No






Okay, now this just being an asshole.

They raised the money. It's their money. They can do what they want with it.

MLG raised another $10 million just recently, didn't they? Nothing's keeping them from raising their prize pool or broadcasting 5 nights a week.

Obviously, NASL's strategy is to invest less in overhead and infrastructure and more in the players and content generation. Not saying that's the best or most optimum strategy, but it's their business.



SC2kenjiro
Profile Joined February 2011
11 Posts
February 22 2011 18:17 GMT
#717
On February 23 2011 03:02 Ponyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
Eligibility: Anyone can apply (including Koreans), as long as they are on a gaming team (not sure if the team has to meet some set level of sponsorship/notoriety) and they commit to go to the July LAN held in California. Incontrol stated that perhaps there will be a cap on Koreans at five max, but this isn't set in stone. There is a cap on the number of players from each team, set at five. EG and Liquid, in other words, can have no more than five players in the event.


So i had a team question. If i group up 5 sc2 buddys and we go down to KFC and get official sponsership, we qualify? (Live close to L.A.)


I bet that'd fly. But having a formally managed and sponsored team isn't the only qualification, you and your buddies have to ACTUALLY BE REALLY REALLY GOOD at SC2.
SC2kenjiro
Profile Joined February 2011
11 Posts
February 22 2011 18:18 GMT
#718
On February 23 2011 03:12 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:

No you are obviously not allowed to sell replays. I could get into this deep but... let's just say Blizzard does not do something like that.


I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this because I have some inside information on this that suggests it's acceptable if you are licenced by Blizzard to sell them.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
February 22 2011 18:22 GMT
#719
On February 23 2011 03:12 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 03:10 SC2kenjiro wrote:
On February 23 2011 03:04 Assirra wrote:
On February 23 2011 02:03 Numy wrote:
On February 23 2011 01:54 Alou wrote:
On February 23 2011 01:52 Sapphire.lux wrote:
""We're talking about creating additional content as well like giving them access to replays but then we thought that was kind of silly because it only takes one person to get a replay and then the whole internet has the replay.""


No available replays is BS, sorry. Sell the "show" (games commented, production value, etc) but make the frekin replays available for their education value. I hope Blizzard puts an end to this practice (Gom)


I would love for replays to be released like a week after. Like week 1 replays are in a pack released on Week 2 or something. But I think they might be putting it as paid content if I remember reading that on the FAQ or something.


I think it's against the ToS to sell replays. So only possibilities is that they just don't release them or they release them. Selling them would cause a shit storm I think.

This is true, you are not allowed to sell replays since you don't own them in the first place.
You can't sell what is not yours.


Uhh pretty sure if you establish tournament licensing from Blizzard that such an agreement would include the right to sell replays. I'm willing to bet the folks at NASL have such an agreement with Blizzard. Think people, think.


No you are obviously not allowed to sell replays. I could get into this deep but... let's just say Blizzard does not do something like that.

I'm pretty sure the Blizzard Marketplace would enable the sale of replays.
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Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
February 22 2011 18:24 GMT
#720
On February 23 2011 03:17 SC2kenjiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 03:02 Ponyo wrote:
Eligibility: Anyone can apply (including Koreans), as long as they are on a gaming team (not sure if the team has to meet some set level of sponsorship/notoriety) and they commit to go to the July LAN held in California. Incontrol stated that perhaps there will be a cap on Koreans at five max, but this isn't set in stone. There is a cap on the number of players from each team, set at five. EG and Liquid, in other words, can have no more than five players in the event.


So i had a team question. If i group up 5 sc2 buddys and we go down to KFC and get official sponsership, we qualify? (Live close to L.A.)


I bet that'd fly. But having a formally managed and sponsored team isn't the only qualification, you and your buddies have to ACTUALLY BE REALLY REALLY GOOD at SC2.


oh yea fail L
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