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On February 22 2011 23:36 cuppatea wrote:


NASL and the people behind it have no track record of running major events (which is extremely difficult to do and has put many companies out of business) so the only thing we have to base our opinions off are the showmatch, which from a production point of view was a complete disaster.

It just blows my mind that, with weeks to prepare, they would make such a mess of the long awaited, much hyped, grand unveiling of their tournament.

It seems to me like they held a $1500 showmatch to announce a $400k tournament and ran then the whole production on a $10 budget, which ultimately reflected poorly on the NASL and cast doubt where it was supposed to generate excitement.

On February 22 2011 23:03 MoreFaSho wrote:
I don't understand why so many comments in this thread are about the showmatch when that topic has its own thread. This is a thread about the NASL. As far as the two are related some comments might make sense, but so many comments have absolutely nothing to do with the NASL.

On February 23 2011 01:52 Sapphire.lux wrote:
""We're talking about creating additional content as well like giving them access to replays but then we thought that was kind of silly because it only takes one person to get a replay and then the whole internet has the replay.""


No available replays is BS, sorry. Sell the "show" (games commented, production value, etc) but make the frekin replays available for their education value. I hope Blizzard puts an end to this practice (Gom)

On February 23 2011 01:32 Eeryck wrote:
I think it is reasonable to be concerned about the quality of the product that is being presented as the NASL.

When you watch the GSL you see a very nicely polished and finished product that is comparable to watching a modern sporting event in terms of production quality.

While NASL has just been born, they have a standard that they need to not only meet but exceed in all aspects, the GSL.

Seeing the role out here is what I saw and a bit of constructive critisism:

The Hype - Well done, leaks intentional or not helped build the suspense

nasl.tv - Moderate, it served its purpose but is not presented in a premier fashion. The small details are what makes the best the best. We are talking about professional e-sports, there is no reason for the primary vehicle to be anything but the best

The show match - Moderate, choosing two well known players that both got Code S is the obvious choice. But it could also bee seen as a mistake. Instead of providing epic matches that were nail biters we got to see what is becoming a clear division of class of players. Causing some concern that the player pool in the west may not be of the same caliber of the GSL. Perhaps choosing two players not currently participating in the GSL could have avoided this comparison. This is a case where hindsight is 20/20

The casting - It is too early to make any final judgments, but there is a lot of room for improvement. I think it is important for a "personality" in control of their mannerisms and facial expressions. I was constantly surprised at how much the casters gave away in body language of their preference and expectations. It made me appreciate more the synergy between Tasteless and Artosis. This takes time and self analysis though to become good. Hopefully we will see improvement and less team bias in future casts, with a good synergy developing that is unique to nasl and not stealing from the already established GSL casting comments.

Production quality - Poor, I only watched the VOD but the casting was so out of sync with the play that it was unbearable to watch. By the time the commented on the action we already watched it happen. I realize that this could be a function of the recording and I hope that is the case. The live stream was probably sync'd properly. This comment only comes again because I would like to see NASL show as a premier league and see them hold themselves to the highest standard. Of course the show match was not an official nasl.tv event but as it was the announcement of the league, again spit and polish would have made a better first impression

The potential - Excelent, the stage is set. The build order is in place. Can the people involved at the core refine it to have no bumps. I think so. They really only have a list of rather minor issues to sort out at this point. They had a good dry run and are getting a lot of feedback. The biggest hurdle was probably seen as the prize pool and with that established it is just a matter of time and getting the right people to make this a premier league. I also believe the money and foreign competition will motivate and elevate the level of play to that of the GSL in time. Perhaps 2-3 seasons.

I plan to support the NASL, but my expectations remain extremely high. So does my confidence that those involved will deliver an exceptional product.

On February 23 2011 01:50 Alou wrote:


There will be a lot of delay and it could seriously harm their performance in games. It seems perfectly reasonable for some players to want to come back to the US or perhaps Europe where the delay is less to compete in NASL. They might not all immediately drop GSL and come to NASL, or some might compete in both, but going back to their homes to focus on NASL is perfectly reasonable. Stop exaggerating.

On February 23 2011 01:52 Sapphire.lux wrote:
""We're talking about creating additional content as well like giving them access to replays but then we thought that was kind of silly because it only takes one person to get a replay and then the whole internet has the replay.""


No available replays is BS, sorry. Sell the "show" (games commented, production value, etc) but make the frekin replays available for their education value. I hope Blizzard puts an end to this practice (Gom)

On February 23 2011 01:20 skipgamer wrote:
For those who don't realise, the prize money is on par with CPL in its hay-day, ESWC and the WCG... Which were/are all spread across multiple games.

On February 23 2011 01:54 Alou wrote:


I would love for replays to be released like a week after. Like week 1 replays are in a pack released on Week 2 or something. But I think they might be putting it as paid content if I remember reading that on the FAQ or something.

On February 23 2011 01:55 ptbl wrote:
Please explain the exaggeration part. You seem to believe that Jinro won't participate in NASL from Korea. Do you want to make a bet? .

On February 23 2011 02:06 Alou wrote:


Please point out where I said "jinro won't participate in NASL from Korea." I'm saying its perfectly reasonable for some of the current players in Korea to want to turn their focus away from the GSL and back on to NASL and other tournaments in NA and EU. Let's say HuK loses his next match. He might decide Korea isn't the best for him and he has a better chance succeeding back home. This would be a perfectly reasonable thing for him to do with the NASL now being announced. I'm not saying everyone is going to just pack up from Korea and say "Fuck GSL." I'm saying that the competitions in NA and EU are growing and GSL is starting to look less like that shining tournament on a hill and more of a hindrance in that you can compete in less tournaments globally and arguably miss out on more opportunities than you gain from going to Korea. You said you don't see why IdrA left Korea, I'm saying it's a perfectly reasonable thing for him to do and makes sense. Yea, some of the TL members in Korea will probably compete, some even from Korea. Yea, some Koreans will probably compete as well, I think Incontrol said he's looking at getting around 5 or so in that G4 interview. But you seem to be holding GSL on a mountain when really it's only on a hill now, if even that. That's where I think you are exaggerating.

Congratulations! This is our first foreigner special interview with you, and it's starting off on a good note. How did you feel after the match?

Felt really good, at worst now I can play in Code A again.

Is it a relief to finally get a GSL broadcast win under your belt?

Of course, especially since now at worst I get to play Code A again next season, but yes huge relief. Hopefully the next matches I won't be so nervous.

On February 23 2011 01:54 Alou wrote:


I would love for replays to be released like a week after. Like week 1 replays are in a pack released on Week 2 or something. But I think they might be putting it as paid content if I remember reading that on the FAQ or something.

On February 23 2011 01:57 theBullFrog wrote:

I think you should be glad top players give away some of their replays. Let alone every show match that is release by them. Its their choice to give it away. for what ? educational value? What about profit value? Hd and Husky makes money from their replays (not tryin to take anything away from those two at all) while the players don't right now.

On February 23 2011 02:22 Doso wrote:
400k without a single word on the Sponsor.. seriously.. wtf?

On February 23 2011 02:23 eveo wrote:


This entire thing is horribly organized.