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Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
October 24 2010 00:06 GMT
#121
On October 24 2010 08:07 optical630 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 07:02 Romantic wrote:
Why would you put people in jail for gambling? Dumbest thing I've ever heard of.



its not gambling its match fixing which allows people to make sure they win through gambling

Why should someone be thrown in a cage for it?

I've still yet to figure out why people who are not a danger to others are put in cages as punishment.
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
October 24 2010 06:37 GMT
#122
On October 22 2010 17:47 heyoka wrote:
Maybe I'm in the minority here but people going to jail over video games is the funniest thing in the world to me.

Savior has turned into a real life Kenny Powers.


It's pretty hard not to see how its funny.
Seze
Profile Joined August 2010
42 Posts
October 24 2010 08:20 GMT
#123
The sad thing about all of this is, they are now legit bad boys and have the papers to prove it. The amount of pussy they will harvest is unimaginable, compared to what pro gaming supplied.
Slap on a tatoo and start smoking fags, then you will be set for life, pussy-wise....

Grats
Prime`Rib
Profile Joined September 2010
United States613 Posts
October 24 2010 11:32 GMT
#124
First of all, they will be jailed as an example of match fixing. This will warn other progammers that match fixing is stupid and yes, you will go to jail for that.

1 year of sentence, 2 years of suspended sentence means that the minimum sentence for financial fraud is 3 years. But instead of put your ass into jail for 3 years, the law will let you serve 1 year in the slammer and 2 years of probation. The lawyer probably pulls some sort of deals or whatever to lighten Savior's sentence.
... funerals are insane, the chicks are so horny, its not even fair, its like fishing with dynamite ...
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
October 24 2010 12:04 GMT
#125
Real savior in gsl soon?? Or maybe backstage doing his thing xD
Manatea
Profile Joined March 2007
Korea (South)48 Posts
October 24 2010 12:08 GMT
#126
On October 24 2010 21:04 drlame wrote:
Real savior in gsl soon?? Or maybe backstage doing his thing xD


Gretech said they won't allow match-fix progamers to join gsl
Manatea
Profile Joined March 2007
Korea (South)48 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 12:30:10
October 24 2010 12:28 GMT
#127
to those who are still confused

Read OP
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO JAIL

It's just habits of Korean court to tell sentence first even if criminals actually get suspended sentence
Korean court usually do not order first-time offenders to go jail unless guilt is too serious
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
October 24 2010 15:35 GMT
#128
putting people in jail over these kind of things is just dumb.
why do so many law systems fail .
Rodiel
Profile Joined August 2006
France573 Posts
October 24 2010 17:26 GMT
#129
gambling treatment program ? this is where they teach u how to play AKo ?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 24 2010 20:18 GMT
#130
How come Savior got no financial penalty?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ritchstorm
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom36 Posts
October 24 2010 21:48 GMT
#131
You have to remember this isn't just about a game. It's about fixing illegal gambling. Pretty big stuff.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
October 24 2010 23:34 GMT
#132
On October 24 2010 21:04 drlame wrote:
Real savior in gsl soon?? Or maybe backstage doing his thing xD

Not funny, not funny at all
Dont think hes allowed @ GSL anyways.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
Ganondorf
Profile Joined April 2010
Italy600 Posts
October 25 2010 00:13 GMT
#133
I don't think they will go anywhere videogames or games in general anytime soon. Suspended sentence for first time offenders is pretty common, does it work differently in the US ? I don't get why people are so confused.
MrProphylactic
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
296 Posts
October 25 2010 00:18 GMT
#134
Is the concept of diversion , and suspended sentencing that hard to grasp poeple.
"The Beauty of a move is not in its appearance, but the thought behind it" Nimzovitch
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 25 2010 04:18 GMT
#135
i miss ma jae yoon
Jaedong.
JBanKs
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
October 25 2010 09:12 GMT
#136
Be interesting to see how this all turns out a little bit further down the line. Though hopefully this sends out a strong message for anyone wanting to do match fixing in the future
Ex-StarTale manager // @BanKseSports on twitter
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
October 25 2010 09:37 GMT
#137
On October 24 2010 21:08 Manatea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 21:04 drlame wrote:
Real savior in gsl soon?? Or maybe backstage doing his thing xD


Gretech said they won't allow match-fix progamers to join gsl


Aww, i thought there was hope for Savior :/

I hope Savior will pick up SC2 anyways and just play in all tournaments that isn't GSL, i'd love to see him active again.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Moody
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States750 Posts
October 25 2010 21:10 GMT
#138
On October 22 2010 17:52 fusionsdf wrote:
they all deserve jail, without question.

I have no sympathy for any of them.


You're huffing paint if you think people should go to jail for fixing the outcome of a video game.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Where's the counter?"
domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 23:47:35
October 25 2010 23:45 GMT
#139
On October 24 2010 09:06 Romantic wrote:
Why should someone be thrown in a cage for it?

I've still yet to figure out why people who are not a danger to others are put in cages as punishment.

Here is why match-fixing is bad:

Gamblers makes bets with the assumption that the payout is slightly better than 1:1, because they have some internal knowledge/belief that the betting line is not entirely accurate. Match-fixing turns what should be a 50/50 bet into a 100/0 bet. Those on the 0 side have been defrauded of their money, because the 50/50 expectation was not true.

Imagine if I'm playing roulette, but the casino is using a wheel where it always lands on Red. If I bet Black, the Casino essentially stole money from me. In match-fixing, it's a third-party rather than the "house" who's doing the defrauding, but the victim is no better off.

This is exactly the same as someone investing in a company with the belief the stock price will go up, but the stock price plummets to zero because the company lied about its prospects for success. Aka securities fraud.

It's also the same as me selling you a defective laptop, because you assumed the laptop would only have a .01% chance of failing rather than the actual percentage of 100%. Aka consumer fraud.

Defrauders are dangerous to society because money is just as important, if not more-so, to the wellbeing of an individual than their physical safety.
pioneer8
Profile Joined January 2010
United States143 Posts
October 26 2010 00:49 GMT
#140
I think American team(s) should invite the nationless players to the US and pay them to play SC2


That would be funny, huh lol


I know most of us would rather be rooting for Savior than Idra now wouldn't we... lol
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