EPTBW Matchfixing Sentencing - Page 6
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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RogueStatus
266 Posts
On October 22 2010 18:00 b_unnies wrote: im clueless on laws, but if probation means that they dont go to jail unless they screw up, why is probation period longer than jail time ? Seriously? Probation outside of jail, will always be longer than actual jail time. Does that not make sense? | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
however, trash like justin and savior who entice these progamers to match-fix AND THEN forcing them to continue (savior made hwasin feel guilty by saying "oh, my hyung said he lost XXXXXXX won because of you, what are you going to do about it?", and hwasin was only given leta's BO and still lost) deserve to be punished more. you worry about prison changing their minds into criminals, but i think savior thinks he's so baller that he can go bully other progamers that maybe he should feel a little bullying himself | ||
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Vindubs
United States110 Posts
to Americans it seems like a video game. To Koreans (and the sc2 community) its a sport and a league and a business. Businesses need to conduct themselves with a level of integrity. and clearly some teams/players aka businesses conducted themselves very inappropriately. i hope this makes sense and i hope i didnt ramble. take care | ||
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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
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tackklee
United States270 Posts
I think they got sentenced with 'joint suspensions'. Which basically means they go on probation for the suspended sentence that the OP wrote and if they mess up they will serve the initial sentence. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2717 Posts
On October 23 2010 08:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: uhhh im no lawyer but if they list the sentence and the suspended sentence separately doesn't that mean they serve the sentence and THEN go on probation for the listed time? so all of them are going to jail? reading this thread it seems like everyone is reading '2 year suspended sentence' and skipping the rest of the information LOL That's what I thought at first. However, some people pointed out that "suspended sentence" actually means that the sentence serving is delayed and only comes into effect if the defendant commits another crime during the period of the suspended sentence. In Savior's case this would mean that only if he commits another crime during the next two years he'll have to serve one year of jail time. As opposed to serving 1 year in prison and then being on probation for two more years. Suspended Sentence | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On October 23 2010 16:52 nalgene wrote: They're only banned by KeSPA? Can they play in American tournaments if they get out? I believe Blizzard has officially banned them from SC2 tournys as well. In other words, the only thing they can do is play SCBW in the US after they get out... but then again, the only people who still play SCBW in the US are hardcore TL'ers and those who know about Progambler Ma. So basically, he can't do anything even when he gets out. I just find it funny that Mr. Ma is not getting fined at all... I think jail is a little too harsh for having already destroyed his entire career and future. But then again, all he has left is his money and his rolex watches, I guess we could leave him some of that. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
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Recherche87
Korea (South)8 Posts
On October 23 2010 12:57 mrdx wrote: OK so could someone please confirm if Savior is going to jail or not??? they don't go to jail unless they commit a crime during the suspended time period | ||
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LuckyLuke43
Norway169 Posts
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
On October 22 2010 18:32 oRacLeGosu wrote: Please ppl..putting a nerd in jail for this will at best create a criminal, and not serve society. I know a lot of people feel punishment in the traditional sense is the only way to go in almost all cases, but that oppinion is either made by anger, or misplaced idealistic principles/lack of knowledge. A find, and community service is a good way to go about it. Soceity won't profit from young gamers with sensible minds being manipulated by murderers in jail. And if you feel individual despair is more important than the better of the society, you know one of the reasons for prisons being a billion dollar industry in you know where, and why the world is crazy  You make some sense, but are way off in the wrong direction. They didn't get any jailtime (yet) so when are they going to be manipulated by some murderer? Fact remains that there has to be some sort of disincentive to cheat in this way or the decision will only be easier to make in the future for other progamers. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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Archduke
United States119 Posts
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
On October 24 2010 07:02 Romantic wrote: Why would you put people in jail for gambling? Dumbest thing I've ever heard of. its not gambling its match fixing which allows people to make sure they win through gambling | ||
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