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some_pro
Profile Joined October 2010
120 Posts
October 22 2010 18:52 GMT
#81
To sum up, unless they break the law during their suspended sentence time, they'll only get community service / gambling treatment program time ?

I'm relieved, I thought for a moment they were actually going to jail -.-
I think it's safe to assume this kind of match fixing won't happen again
boxxy
Profile Joined September 2010
Greece5 Posts
October 22 2010 18:55 GMT
#82
Really hope Savior blocks his Nydus Canal
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends" Henry V
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
October 22 2010 19:11 GMT
#83
On October 22 2010 17:49 Klive5ive wrote:
1 year in jail seems intuitively wrong to me.
They should have fined him more and less jail.

edit: Ah he's not certain to be jailed, that makes more sense.

You have to take into account that these players will have a very hard time finding jobs, especially savior, because he was so well known, and so well know now, for his taking part in this. So, he really has to save up that money, and i think the judge realized this
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
October 22 2010 19:18 GMT
#84
On October 23 2010 04:11 Tazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 17:49 Klive5ive wrote:
1 year in jail seems intuitively wrong to me.
They should have fined him more and less jail.

edit: Ah he's not certain to be jailed, that makes more sense.

You have to take into account that these players will have a very hard time finding jobs, especially savior, because he was so well known, and so well know now, for his taking part in this. So, he really has to save up that money, and i think the judge realized this

Eh, Savior is the Korean Martha Stewart.

Was rich but still got greedy, broke the law, got in trouble. Maybe one day he'll get back to the spotlight.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Originalien
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia28 Posts
October 22 2010 20:31 GMT
#85
On October 22 2010 18:32 oRacLeGosu wrote:
Please ppl..putting a nerd in jail for this will at best create a criminal, and not serve society. I know a lot of people feel punishment in the traditional sense is the only way to go in almost all cases, but that oppinion is either made by anger, or misplaced idealistic principles/lack of knowledge.
A find, and community service is a good way to go about it. Soceity won't profit from young gamers with sensible minds being manipulated by murderers in jail. And if you feel individual despair is more important than the better of the society, you know one of the reasons for prisons being a billion dollar industry in you know where, and why the world is crazy


Finally some common sense.....

Some of you who stated they should go to jail should maybe do some times urself and see how u like it... Mixing computer nerds who where poor and made bad decisions with rapists, murderers and paedophiles is fucking stupid. They go in normal and come out with the knowledge of how to cook meth, rob people with minimal risk and how to avoid being detected when raping/murdering..... Same issue with marijuana but thats a whole other basket of eggs

Jail is a system of control used by oppresive autocracies to use fear as a tool to keep sheep from making there own minds up in the face of illogical decisions being made by there governments which are controlled by corporations.

I believe societies problems are too vast and from to many contributing factors for jail to work on people... We need to wake up and realize that if people were not poor (ie disband capatalism because it is killing democracy) and there was no drug war waged on civilians (ie in netherlands where if u get addicted to heroin u get it for free from the doctor after u admit u are a junky, there for reducing violent crimes and robberys dramatically) that actually taking the time to find out what is wrong in a persons life and try to help them fix it is the best solution to crimes any society can ever have.

Look what happens in america, fucking 3 strikes law in some states is the most retarded thing i have ever heard off, and u wonder why u see a police chases CONSTANTLY with people killing people just to get away.... when all they are doing is getting pulled over with weed in theyre pocket..... Is it a co-incidence that the same countries who enforce 3 strike u get life policys are the very same places where jails are run by corporations who make MONEY per head off the people in those jails... no.

Community service, bann them from playing the game proffessionaly ever again and fine them. Shit society has bigger fish to fry and jails are already full
"Not Enough Minerals" - Aint that the truth
Kurt_Russell
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada147 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 20:51:19
October 22 2010 20:48 GMT
#86
Hmm, why is there no mention of (T)go.go and (T)Hwasin ? Honestly, I found those were the only two I actually cared about (more-so go.go than Hwasin). Just hope that their sentences aren't as big

I mean there are much worse things in the world than throwing a game for money that go unpunished... not to mention they more or less have a future, not to mention Prison seems to be a really terribad place :/

(P)Bisu fans rejoice for go.go is no longer there to embarrass him :O

edit: Reread thread and understood that the sentenced players will not necessarily go to jail
My captcha when signing up was in ovules :S
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 22 2010 21:29 GMT
#87
Looks like none of them are going to Jail but will be probationary depending on their sentence. but does that mean they can play SC 2? I guess yes
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
October 22 2010 21:51 GMT
#88
On October 22 2010 18:14 shell wrote:
If we assume starcraft is like any other sport in S. Korea.. then i guess this is right!

In football, basketball etc.. the result would be the same!

yeah there just was the donaghy thing in the nba.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
rockslave
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Brazil318 Posts
October 22 2010 22:05 GMT
#89
I don't understand all this pro-fixers commotion. Match fixing RUINS any sport! I hope they die 5 times and go to all imaginable hells. One year of jail for a guy who betrays the sport that made him what he is? Not that much.
What qxc said.
Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
October 22 2010 22:24 GMT
#90
savior wil play sc2 during suspension maybe?
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 22 2010 22:27 GMT
#91
can somebody explain to me why they got sentenced?
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
October 22 2010 22:43 GMT
#92
On October 22 2010 17:52 fusionsdf wrote:
they all deserve jail, without question.

I have no sympathy for any of them.



Thank you. I agree completely with this.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7917 Posts
October 22 2010 22:44 GMT
#93
I'm really happy none of them is actually going to jail.

Hope they somehow recover and manage to find something else to do with their life. Especially Savior.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7917 Posts
October 22 2010 22:45 GMT
#94
On October 23 2010 07:43 DyEnasTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 17:52 fusionsdf wrote:
they all deserve jail, without question.

I have no sympathy for any of them.



Thank you. I agree completely with this.

People getting happy because someone goes to jail.

I'll never understand that.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
October 22 2010 22:53 GMT
#95
Obviously it depends on the circumstances.
Completely insane serial murder caught and sentenced? Phew, relief.
Jaywalker sentenced to life in prison? Uh...
Match-fixer given a sentence that may or may not deter future offenders? That's completely debatable.

I don't see why people are so quick to make all-encompassing statements like this.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
October 22 2010 23:04 GMT
#96
On October 23 2010 07:45 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 07:43 DyEnasTy wrote:
On October 22 2010 17:52 fusionsdf wrote:
they all deserve jail, without question.

I have no sympathy for any of them.



Thank you. I agree completely with this.

People getting happy because someone goes to jail.

I'll never understand that.

To me it seems like a waste of money and time to go through due process and jail them etc. Should just be larger fine and community service.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 22 2010 23:42 GMT
#97
uhhh im no lawyer but if they list the sentence and the suspended sentence separately doesn't that mean they serve the sentence and THEN go on probation for the listed time? so all of them are going to jail?

reading this thread it seems like everyone is reading '2 year suspended sentence' and skipping the rest of the information LOL
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
October 23 2010 00:20 GMT
#98
On October 23 2010 06:29 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Looks like none of them are going to Jail but will be probationary depending on their sentence. but does that mean they can play SC 2? I guess yes

They are all banned from the GSL at least.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 23 2010 00:24 GMT
#99
On October 23 2010 08:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
uhhh im no lawyer but if they list the sentence and the suspended sentence separately doesn't that mean they serve the sentence and THEN go on probation for the listed time? so all of them are going to jail?

reading this thread it seems like everyone is reading '2 year suspended sentence' and skipping the rest of the information LOL


That's what it sounds like to me.
ed21x
Profile Joined January 2010
United States103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 00:44:35
October 23 2010 00:43 GMT
#100
since these gamers had their gaming license suspended by Kespa, it appears that Kespa might not have a hold on the progaming scene much longer as Blizzard seems to be promoting a more open 'free-for-all' policy, does this mean they can participate in Blizzard sanctioned tourneys like the GSL? I was always under the impression that Gaming Licenses only apply to Kespa-related activities, and Blizzard never cared for those...
a little dab will do ya
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