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Ambasa
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 13:22:33
October 22 2010 08:45 GMT
#1
So, the sentencing occurred today in Korea (the 22nd). Basically, they have a week to appeal the sentences. Out of the people who got sentenced, those of interest are

Progamer (T)Justin - 18 month sentence, 3 years suspended sentence, 3 million won fine, 120 hours of community service, 40 hours of gambling treatment program.
Progamer (Z)sAviOr - 1 year sentence, 2 year suspended sentence, 120 hours of community service.
Ex Progamer (T)By.1st - 6 month sentence, 1 year suspended sentence, 40 hours of gambling treatment program
Ex Progamer (Z)ShinHwA - 6 months sentence, 1 year suspended sentence, 40 hours of gambling treatment program

Note on "suspended sentence": If they don't screw up within that time period, they actually don't end up going to jail, and they count that you have served your sentence after that period is over.

The other progamers who were involved were let off with a fine, iirc. I don't know if there was anything past that, but since I haven't seen anything regarding them, I assume that is true.

Source: http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=111462&db=issue
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 22 2010 08:47 GMT
#2
Maybe I'm in the minority here but people going to jail over video games is the funniest thing in the world to me.

Savior has turned into a real life Kenny Powers.
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DiamondTear
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland165 Posts
October 22 2010 08:49 GMT
#3
So this is actual jail time and not a suspended sentence?
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 09:15:34
October 22 2010 08:49 GMT
#4
1 year in jail seems intuitively wrong to me.
They should have fined him more and less jail.

edit: Ah he's not certain to be jailed, that makes more sense.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 22 2010 08:52 GMT
#5
they all deserve jail, without question.

I have no sympathy for any of them.
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magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
October 22 2010 08:53 GMT
#6
Oh my god, I cant believe this is actually happening. Savior in the brick for a year?!
Ambasa
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 08:54:31
October 22 2010 08:53 GMT
#7
On October 22 2010 17:49 DiamondTear wrote:
So this is actual jail time and not a suspended sentence?


Well, the "Probation" actually means suspended sentence, so they don't actually go to jail unless they screw up during to probation, it looks like.

I updated the OP post to take into account this information.
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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
October 22 2010 08:58 GMT
#8
On October 22 2010 17:53 Ambasa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 17:49 DiamondTear wrote:
So this is actual jail time and not a suspended sentence?


Well, the "Probation" actually means suspended sentence, so they don't actually go to jail unless they screw up during to probation, it looks like.

I updated the OP post to take into account this information.


I'm still not sure it is clear enough - I think people are going to read it and go OMFG SAVIOR GOING TO JAIL.

I know that was the first thing that went through my mind upon reading it.
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 09:00:15
October 22 2010 09:00 GMT
#9
im clueless on laws, but if probation means that they dont go to jail unless they screw up, why is probation period longer than jail time ?
undyinglight
Profile Joined December 2008
United States611 Posts
October 22 2010 09:00 GMT
#10
Betting is illegal in South Korea. I wonder if any of them will attempt a Martha Stewart style comeback after they serve their time. I wonder if they will be able to compete ever again or if their reputations are tarnished for good. That would be cool if there was some kind of prison league that started up as a result of this.
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msc
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia18 Posts
October 22 2010 09:01 GMT
#11
i dont get it why are they sentenced. can anyone enlighten me?
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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
October 22 2010 09:02 GMT
#12
On October 22 2010 18:01 msc wrote:
i dont get it why are they sentenced. can anyone enlighten me?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal

Liquidpedia for the win.
cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
October 22 2010 09:02 GMT
#13
wow.. this seems so wrong...
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 09:05:10
October 22 2010 09:03 GMT
#14
So do I get this right? They don't go to jail at all unless they commit a crime during the probation time? And if they do screw up, they are imprisoned for the duration specified in the OP?
Or is the probation time after / in addition to a compulsory jail time?
msc
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia18 Posts
October 22 2010 09:03 GMT
#15
On October 22 2010 18:02 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 18:01 msc wrote:
i dont get it why are they sentenced. can anyone enlighten me?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal

Liquidpedia for the win.


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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 22 2010 09:09 GMT
#16
Progamer sAviOr - 1 year sentence, 2 year probation, 120 hours of community service.

k.. any law students here?

does this mean he goes to jail for 1 year. if his rehabilitation / community service is done well, he is out ( total jail time = 1 year) otherwise he goes for 1+2 years

or..

he doesnt go to jail but if he commits crime within 2 years, he will go to jail for 1 year.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
October 22 2010 09:11 GMT
#17
On October 22 2010 18:03 Scorch wrote:
So do I get this right? They don't go to jail at all unless they commit a crime during the probation time? And if they do screw up, they are imprisoned for the duration specified in the OP?
Or is the probation time after / in addition to a compulsory jail time?


If they don't screw up for the duration of their probation they are not going to jail at all, if they do screw up, they are going to jail for the time specified in the sentence, so Savior for 1 year.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
October 22 2010 09:12 GMT
#18
at least that is how it works here in Europe, but it makes sense it works like that in other countries also.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
October 22 2010 09:14 GMT
#19
If we assume starcraft is like any other sport in S. Korea.. then i guess this is right!

In football, basketball etc.. the result would be the same!
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Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 09:19:27
October 22 2010 09:17 GMT
#20
On October 22 2010 18:09 dtz wrote:
Progamer sAviOr - 1 year sentence, 2 year probation, 120 hours of community service.

k.. any law students here?

does this mean he goes to jail for 1 year. if his rehabilitation / community service is done well, he is out ( total jail time = 1 year) otherwise he goes for 1+2 years

or..

he doesnt go to jail but if he commits crime within 2 years, he will go to jail for 1 year.


The way it works in the states is you serve your sentence, in Savior's case 1 year in jail and after he's done he has 2 years probation(normally checking in with your parole officer, no drug use, upstanding citizen type crap) where if he violates probation he goes back to jail to serve the rest of his probation there. If he wasn't going to spend anytime in jail they wouldn't have a sentence unless it's a suspended sentence type thing. Korean justice system might work completely different though.

They deserve going to jail for what they did. Screwing up the integrity of a sport by gambling is probably the worst thing a competitor can do other than killing/harming another. Sad that it happened but, at least justice is served.
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