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T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
October 22 2010 09:17 GMT
#21
And Upmagic still cant play in GSL ): this is gonna stick for a while.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
October 22 2010 09:20 GMT
#22
seems kinda light, yet at the same time, feels kinda harsh. contradictory, yes, but idk that's how i feel :/
POGGERS
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 09:22:51
October 22 2010 09:22 GMT
#23
edit: all is clear now
keep it deep! @zulison
MozoM
Profile Joined April 2010
France71 Posts
October 22 2010 09:22 GMT
#24
On October 22 2010 17:47 heyoka wrote:
Maybe I'm in the minority here but people going to jail over video games is the funniest thing in the world to me.

I don't think they were accused of playing a video game.

They actually stole other people's money, no?
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 22 2010 09:30 GMT
#25
oh ok so they dont actually go to jail yet unless they do stupid things which i doubt they will.

anyway,

does anyone know if the kespa/gsl ( sc1/sc2) ban is permanent or it has a duration.
oRacLeGosu
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway151 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 10:27:03
October 22 2010 09:32 GMT
#26
Please ppl..putting a nerd in jail for this will at best create a criminal, and not serve society. I know a lot of people feel punishment in the traditional sense is the only way to go in almost all cases, but that oppinion is either made by anger, or misplaced idealistic principles/lack of knowledge.
A find, and community service is a good way to go about it. Soceity won't profit from young gamers with sensible minds being manipulated by murderers in jail. And if you feel individual despair is more important than the better of the society, you know one of the reasons for prisons being a billion dollar industry in you know where, and why the world is crazy
a.k.a. [iNF]cALLe - member of TL since around 2002..account dead.
s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
October 22 2010 09:41 GMT
#27
ppl usually choose to be gamers to stay away from a criminal life so they wont go to jail
this kinda sucks

i understand the ban, fines and community service, but some ppl arent made for jail
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
October 22 2010 09:56 GMT
#28
On October 22 2010 18:20 konadora wrote:
seems kinda light, yet at the same time, feels kinda harsh. contradictory, yes, but idk that's how i feel :/


That's exactly how I feel too. I guess I am more sad/disappointed that young decently well-off people resorted to crime. I kind of feel bad though about the criminal records/social ostracizing etc I hope theyre not like super fucked for life.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
October 22 2010 10:05 GMT
#29
The original post is still confusing, it makes it seem like savior is going to spend a year in jail and THEN he is going to have 2 years of probation.
Maul
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia130 Posts
October 22 2010 10:05 GMT
#30
Good to see none of them are going to gaol. Should hopefully set an example for anyone doing this in the future
Kegs.aus
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia133 Posts
October 22 2010 10:13 GMT
#31
On October 22 2010 17:47 heyoka wrote:
Maybe I'm in the minority here but people going to jail over video games is the funniest thing in the world to me.

Savior has turned into a real life Kenny Powers.


They are not going to jail over a video game....its not like they stole some WoW items and are being jailed for it...

They are being jailed for match fixing a sporting event....Jail sentences seem reasonable in this case, they all get what they deserve.
Xavv
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada168 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 10:32:40
October 22 2010 10:17 GMT
#32
Well in Canada you serve your time first and once you are completed a portion of it you are able to apply for or be released on Probation. If you violate the terms of your Probation you are sent back to Jail to serve the remaining amount of your time.

I have an Aunt who works with the Justice Department here, Generally you will serve 1/6th of your sentence before you get out on Probation based on a review of your behavior.

Whether or not any of this is relavent in a different system of law still remains to be noted, but regardless I think it is safe to say that these people WILL be going to jail. Getting sentenced to jail time then being told you only go there if your bad again is kind of a useless system.

There is really no justification in saying they deserve a degree of lenience because they are either young or accomplished videogame professionals. Im sure they were smart enough to know they were frauding and stealing from people when they set up the details of fixing their matches.
Kachna
Profile Joined October 2010
134 Posts
October 22 2010 10:28 GMT
#33
On October 22 2010 19:17 Xavv wrote:
Well in Canada you serve your time first and once you are completed a portion of it you are able to apply for or be released on Probation. If you violate the terms of your Probation you are sent back to Jail to serve the remaining amount of your time.

I have an Aunt who works with the Justice Department here, Generally you will server 1/6th of your sentence before you get out on Probation based on a review of your behavior.

Whether or not any of this is relavent in a different system of law still remains to be noted, but regardless I think it is safe to say that these people WILL be going to jail. Getting sentenced to jail time then being told you only go there if your bad again is kind of a useless system.

There is really no justification in saying they deserve a degree of lenience because they are either young or accomplished videogame professionals. Im sure they were smart enough to know they were frauding and stealing from people when they set up the details of fixing their matches.

Aggre thats what i think as well.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
October 22 2010 10:47 GMT
#34
People offered them money, and they took it. I would understand it if they received a fine, probation, maybe a year of community service, but going to jail? In a lot of ways they're victims themselves too, I imagine after only accepting one time the criminal gambling types had enough power over any of them to push them to more.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
October 22 2010 10:56 GMT
#35
so this means savior could very well have the time to transfer into sc2. oh boy.
Nich
Profile Joined April 2010
397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 10:57:32
October 22 2010 10:56 GMT
#36
oh savior, hope you become a better person next year. you still have a tiny place within my heart
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33613 Posts
October 22 2010 11:01 GMT
#37
The suspended sentence means they essentially got off with no punishment, fuck that
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Xavv
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada168 Posts
October 22 2010 11:14 GMT
#38
Probation does not equal suspended sentences.

If they were sentenced to a term + Probation they will go to jail for a portion or all of the sentence given and then potentially be let out on Probation after that time.

The OP just defined Probation wrong and now has the entire thread confused.


Thunderfist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland159 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 11:16:08
October 22 2010 11:15 GMT
#39
Well, easy buck - easy pray.
...has arrived.
Xavv
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada168 Posts
October 22 2010 11:18 GMT
#40
On October 22 2010 20:15 Thunderfist wrote:
This is so retarded.

People cant do what they want because someone doesnt like it.

It doesnt damages anyone, and no one is poisoning himself with coke or anything. It's just gambling with money. Wtf is wrong with that ?



Uh...It's really not "just gambling".

The players involved were taking money to throw games so that people who were mass betting could take advantage of it.
Not only that, they were going on the same websites themselves and betting AGAINST themselves to further profits made.

It's fraud, plain and simple. There is absolutely no way to justify it.
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