KeSPA and Gretech re-attempt negotiation - Page 8

On October 20 2010 07:22 maybenexttime wrote:


I don't see how having a bunch of amateur (or semi-professional at best) players delve into prize hunting monthly on an internet stream is legitimizing esports, tbh. ;o

As far as I'm concerned, creating professional teams with steady salaries, secondary line-ups and practice partners, with transparent rules as regards becoming a progamer, leagues broadcasted on the TV, and ties with the government is much closer to "legitimizing esports" than blizzard's backwards thinking. ;;

So you basically do not want sc2 to be run like BW. You have the games be broadcasted on the TV eventually and be monetized for that, while you're going to watch amateurs compete in a blizzard sanctioned league with their crappy maps until they get tired of the lack of stability and perspectives for the future.

Well, I'll gladly stick to BW. You can have your sc2. ;]

On October 20 2010 07:44 Meriones wrote:
It is better to post no sources than to post wrong and irrelevant ones.

Anyway, I don't even need sources. I am either giving my opinion or stating obvious facts.

It must be hard to reconstruct everything when you weren't here when it all happened. I don't blame you. There must be like 20 news posts about Kespa and gomtv/Blizzard negotiations. But at least trust a bit in those who have been part of this scene.

On October 20 2010 07:08 Baldey wrote:


And i thank blizzard for that. I do not want SC2 run the same way BW was. Besides, i trust SC2 in blizzard's hands more then i trust it in KESPA's . And i would rather pay for a stream honestly. Blizzard is trying to legitimize espots. having enough paying customers helps that goal more then anything. soon with the exposure these games are getting, english streams are gona have american companies sponsoring them, and esports will actually be a legitimate sport. Maybe even ESPN will start broadcasting it. thats farr off in the future if it even happens at all, but having people pay for quality content will get esports there faster. keyword there ofcorse is QUALITY, which the gom streams have not been. But they are improving, we should give them a bit more patience...

On October 18 2010 12:39 aupstar wrote:


So they pay for the rights to broadcast but Gretech gets to decide on what's on 50% of the adverts as well?

Wtf? How much money does Gretech really want?

So on top of 50% of control over what's advertised they want 100mil won for EVERY league..Has anyone done the numbers?

Does this include things like heritage league and STX masters cups and such? Does it include allstar matches?

If it does then it really adds up..like 100mil*(3*OSL + 3*MSL + 3*Proleague + STX Masters + Allstar) = over a billion won in a year...

...but then Gretech can jack the price again because it has to be renegotiated every year.

hmm

I think, they should go to court...This 3rd party business "selected by blizzard lol" sounds like a farce.

Settle this once and for all!

P.S. Bring back MSL..

On October 20 2010 06:50 Meriones wrote:
Anyway, only stupid people hate Kespa. Kespa isn't some evil organization. It is a body sanctioned by the government in which all parties have seats.

On October 20 2010 11:32 battarro wrote:
After X amounts of years under Kespa's rule, we had almost zero content for foreign followers. We had to depend on very dedicated individuals that would record the games on their PCs and upload them to youtube, or mailing lists. And then having another set of dedicated followers, comment them in a common language. None of this was supported by Kespa nor any of the big TV stations , aka the money.
6 months after the release of SC2 under gretech, we have high quality video available real time commented on english. Yes we have to pay for it. but the price is not a deal breaker.

As a foreign spectator with 15 dollars to spare every 2 moths, I like how things are under Gretech. I find it hard to justify a system that have kept me on the dark as an e-sport spectator for so long.

Kespa would have a much better standing along the international community, if they had invested in us, setting up streams, VOD, english commentators. Instead they chose not to.

On October 20 2010 13:41 Baldey wrote:
agreed. and infinity, its useless to speculate that far into the future. i realize i did that too saying SC2 will be on ESPN lol, but that was to help a point, not a point in itself. Yes if kespa retained control things would run smooth as they have for BW. but kespa CLEARLY has very low if any interest in spreading esports outside of korea. they are the KOREAN eSports Assosiation afterall. at least blizzard wants to grow esports internationally... oh and lets not forget THEY MADE THE GAME. ya gota thik that they understand their own game better then kespa does, and know whats best for it.

one thing is for certain tho. The way things are now is deffinietly not the way things will be a year from now. wether kespa or blizzard gets control, things will change. blizard wount be stuborn and run things their way just for the hell of it... they are reasonable people. if a pro gaming license is a good idea (i dont believe it is) blizzard will implement it.

and really people stop complaining about 15$ per tournament at gomTV. get a few freinds, split the cost. paying to view this tournament is not a big deal... probably half the reason they even make people pay is kespa is in their way.