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LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1848 Posts
May 12 2009 22:12 GMT
#21
On May 13 2009 07:10 Fontong wrote:
Did you call her a skilless fucking newbie during the games as well?


Hahahahahahahha
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Taurent
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada401 Posts
May 12 2009 22:17 GMT
#22
play without the keyboard
lovelyrose
Profile Joined July 2003
Canada160 Posts
May 12 2009 22:18 GMT
#23
you shoulda played vs comps for sure. you choose to play her 1v1 and then take advantage of her not knowing what she's doing by making lots of hatches and workers.
Aqo[il]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Israel183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 22:23:46
May 12 2009 22:20 GMT
#24
If she actually does want to learn her game, teach her to macro first. Once her APM goes up and she gets a feel of controlling the game she'll be able to advance from there. It's simply impossible to start touching the strategy element of a strategy game if you have no physical ability to control your stuff, and I'm guessing this is the first RTS game she plays.

Do stuff like getting to 200/200 supply in 11 minutes with protoss by starting with a PvT b/o where you get 4 goons before expanding to nat, and force rules like get at least 50% goons so that you don't just spam zea. Once she can do this sort of macro properly, play micro maps with her, teach her to kill infinite zealots with 4 goons, kill infinite speedzea with 6 speedvult, vult+mines against goons, M&M control vs speedlings and lurkers.

If she's motivated, and you actually teach her the basics like this instead of just trashing her in 1v1, she'll get a good hang of those stuff in 2-3 weeks and will be able to start playing on iCCup and improving on her own.

Playing vs comps is pretty much a waste of time and I don't recommend that. Just teach her all the units and abilities in a maps with 1-2 of everything and do what I wrote up after that. Also do limited 1v1s once in a while so that she doesn't get bored of the macro practice, by limited I mean stuff like PvP where you're only allowed to build probes and zealots and no other units, to let her have fun and actually see herself improving slowly.
Reavers. Lurkers. Vultures. Defilers. Corsairs. Vessels. Why did they remove all the cool units from SC2...?
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
May 12 2009 22:23 GMT
#25
BTW if you want to know how she feels I'm available tonight to "teach you" how to play Starcraft.
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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
May 12 2009 22:25 GMT
#26
I once tried to teach my girlfriend hot to play SC.

She knew the game before, having played it when she was little, but knew nothing about competitive gaming.

We played 1v3 on Python and i ended getting owned by the two computers, with some help from her.

She rubbed it in my face for many days = (.
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404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
May 12 2009 22:26 GMT
#27
On May 13 2009 07:23 Chill wrote:
BTW if you want to know how she feels I'm available tonight to "teach you" how to play Starcraft.

ROFL.

"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
May 12 2009 22:26 GMT
#28
On May 13 2009 07:06 YPang wrote:
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 12 2009 22:29 GMT
#29
If you really want to teach her, do the following:
Make a UMS for her with a bunch of computer buildings/units that just sit around in different places, without attacking her, and let her figure out how to build up a base and control her units in her own pace while you guide her gently. Dont pressuring her to keep constant probe production or anything, just give her enough information so that she can move up the tech tree and build up an army. Let this take as much time as she needs, as long as she seem to be into it. Dont place out too many units to start with (maybe even start with a total of 10-20 low tier units or so, with some basic buildings). Better to let her finish the first verion of the map early, and you can do a second version with more resistance. That will only make her proud that she beat the map faster than you expected, which is good and will motivate her.

Then when she gets the basics down, and insists on playing you, then you play really slowly, and stay at about her level both in micro, macro (not that easy to do). You can still have good habbits like scouting, to encourage her to do the same, but dont react with too hard counters to what you see (sometimes even the oposite, so she sees which of her units are good aginst which of yours). Never roll her over completely. Let her win when she plays well, and punish her when she makes a misstake that she "shouldn't" do. Keep her win ratio at about 50%, to keep the excitement up. If you let her win all the games, the wins will not be as fun for her. Point here is that you should try to not show exactly how much you could beat her up. she will ofc realise that you are not playing at 100%, but it would probably discourage her to know exactly how far behind she is. guess you have blown that part already though. :D

Then eventually she can play the computer, and then maybe two, and when she has beaten 2 comp for the first time, let her try a 1on1 LT NOOBS ONLY on bnet, to eventually give her her first real win. Then when she has tasted n00b blood, she will crave for more, and MORE AND MOARRRR!!!1

gl and more importantly hf
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20162 Posts
May 12 2009 22:29 GMT
#30
just play mouse only or touchpad or something if you want the game to be close. oh yea, and you might want to actually tell her how to play
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Kim_Hyun_Han
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
706 Posts
May 12 2009 22:30 GMT
#31
StripCraft

the best way to teach someone starcraft basics
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
May 12 2009 22:33 GMT
#32
On May 13 2009 07:25 CrimsonLotus wrote:
I once tried to teach my girlfriend hot to play SC.

She knew the game before, having played it when she was little, but knew nothing about competitive gaming.

We played 1v3 on Python and i ended getting owned by the two computers, with some help from her.

She rubbed it in my face for many days = (.


i see what you did there
Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
May 12 2009 22:50 GMT
#33
You're a jackass. Your entire post was just showing off the builds you did to stomp your girlfriend who doesn't know how to play. Teach her to play before you play her. It's called common sense.
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Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
May 12 2009 22:51 GMT
#34
On May 13 2009 07:50 Gliche wrote:
You're a jackass. Your entire post was just showing off the builds you did to stomp your girlfriend who doesn't know how to play. Teach her to play before you play her. It's called common sense.


Couldn't say it better, you should have let her play the campaign and giver her pointers, now you made yourself look like a jerk
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 12 2009 22:51 GMT
#35
taking whole map is kinda mean.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 22:57:34
May 12 2009 22:55 GMT
#36
Just play with one hand or something. Give yourself as many handicaps as you need to make it possible for her to win games. Also make sure she knows how much of an advantage you years of experience is giving you so she doesn't feel bad that you have to handicap yourself... Perhaps make an analogy, like if you tried to do her makeup it'd take tonnes of handicaps for her to be as bad as you at it.

That's what I do when I have to play a girl in StarCraft.



And don't just make her play campaign... That's stupid. She wants to do something with you. There probably isn't a genuine desire to get super good at the game, even if she does play it casually.

And don't hardcore teach her build orders hotkeys and everything... She'll just get bored or not retain much of it and you'll feel like an idiot.
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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
May 12 2009 23:09 GMT
#37
Yer you suck, if my 5 year old cousin asks me to play football with him I'm not gonna repeatedly kick the ball in his face now am I.
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
May 12 2009 23:13 GMT
#38
You should feed here plenty of units for her to destroy and feel like she is in the game, and when you go to beat her, don't crush her, just take your time.
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
May 12 2009 23:19 GMT
#39
You have a way with crushing peoples souls t_co. Show a little mercy- at least for your gf
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ReCharge
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Philippines505 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 23:30:56
May 12 2009 23:24 GMT
#40
Be careful bro, after what you did, it's either, she'll break up with you, or she'll get hooked to the game, and eventually beat you... Damn, happened to me when my close girl friend (not it has a space) tried to place sc. damn, I lost lol, she even beat me to C- ~_~

BTW: Like the others say, teach her, the basics, meaning, basic basic. not even probes or expanding, like how to make units, what to do when your out of supply

I like to add aswell, after teaching her, and beating her first computer on her own (no coaching), congratulate her, she'll be like so happy about it. Yah.. good times.
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