EPT[Spoiler] Next Bonjwa? - Page 4
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BBS
Germany204 Posts
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On February 09 2009 03:10 Fontong wrote: dude the title of this thread is a spoiler I'm sorry please mod change the title, but to what? = =# | ||
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SerpentFlame
418 Posts
On February 09 2009 03:11 SuperJongMan wrote: What? Nada, Chojja, Anyime, or Midas didn't exist in Savior's time? Bisu in his day has many more games to play and vs better people. I mean, Savior smashed Kingdom Reach and Ra all day and night to lol his way thru MSL. Silver... do you even remember Silver?????? The difference is that any sane man would autopick sAviOr over Midas, Anytime, and Nada during the reign of terror, with ChoJJa being only slightly iffy due to the randomness of ZvZ coupled with that being sAviOr's worst matchup. People were saying things along the lines of "Zomg! Midas took one game off of sAviOr in a BoX while getting completely outclassed in the rest of the sets! sAviOr dropped one game? What an upset!" Silver of course, is like Rock - one hit wonder, and is totally irrelevant to the general scene at the time. Right now, you can barely pick Bisu over Flash and a faltering Stork, while you have to hedge the odds for Jaedong against Bisu at the moment.. Just because Bisu right now may be better than Savior during his reign (debatable) doesn't mean Bisu is a Bonjwa, since, as many others established he doesn't have dominion over the Starleagues. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
 You should have made the title anything BUT including either player's name. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 09 2009 03:30 SerpentFlame wrote: Right now, you can barely pick Bisu over Flash and a faltering Stork, while you have to hedge the odds for Jaedong against Bisu at the moment.. Just because Bisu right now may be better than Savior during his reign (debatable) doesn't mean Bisu is a Bonjwa, since, as many others established he doesn't have dominion over the Starleagues. This. Bonjwa is a relative term. It reflects how dominant a player is relative to other players. Bisu is far better than past Bonjwas were in their heyday, but the fact is, player skill these days is much too high for him to be called Bonjwa. | ||
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
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koreasilver
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On February 09 2009 02:45 emucxg wrote: I've said before, it's not random date, it depend on kespa ranking. (while the player is 1st on Kespa) kespa can lag quite a bit and is a bit subjective see my blog http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=87459 for a list of all year-long spans. On February 09 2009 03:29 emucxg wrote: I'm sorry please mod change the title, but to what? = =# [spoiler]bisu & savior or something like that | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On February 09 2009 01:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: ThisIf you have to ask if he's bonjwa, he's not bonjwa. | ||
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epicdoom
United States489 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
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KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
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minus_human
4784 Posts
On February 09 2009 03:11 SuperJongMan wrote: What? Nada, Chojja, Anyime, or Midas didn't exist in Savior's time? Bisu in his day has many more games to play and vs better people. I mean, Savior smashed Kingdom Reach and Ra all day and night to lol his way thru MSL. Silver... do you even remember Silver?????? It was always crystal clear that savior is better than Nada or anyone else you mentioned there. So even though there were other spectacular players coexisting with savior, there was only ONE undisputed dominant player. Anyways I think the title of 'bonjwa' is given when the audience and other players/commentators perceive the said bonjwa in a certain way. Savior, oov, nada, boxer : they all had their unmistakable aura of invincibility surrounding them throughout their respective reigns. While no one can deny Bisu's skill and achievements, there is still something lacking. Bisu never had that aura, save for PvZ. And even here, Jaedong is a true contestant and no one can really say who's the clear favorite. In Savior's top match-up ZvP, there was no one really coming close to a challenge, not even rA, who was his so-called rival. If Bisu doesn't cement his status as a true Bonjwa in the following months, I'm pretty sure there won't be another bonjwa, ever. Also I think there's a big possibility that Bisu will become the most achieved SC player in another couple of years or so. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
first, he has to sustain the performance over a few more months. second, there are other players with good winrates and titles during the period, so bisu is not the only star. contrary to the solitary dominance of other players, you cannot say for sure that bisu is the guy. wait and see, i don't like his chances. | ||
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Baddieko
Singapore855 Posts
Nevertheless in protoss race he is still the best with most titles. | ||
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kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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LonelyMargarita
1845 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + thx for ruining the GOM Finals for me Can a mod change it? | ||
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