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poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
March 20 2009 19:17 GMT
#341
dont worry, fantasy will break his back and bisu osl champ
How do you mine minerals?
Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
March 20 2009 19:24 GMT
#342
Ahaha, i saw this thread on the sidebar, and didn't realize it was an old thread. I instantly though, 'damn it, Bisu won, now the fanboys will never shut up.' Hurray for being wrong :D
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
March 20 2009 21:17 GMT
#343
On March 21 2009 04:24 Lucktar wrote:
Ahaha, i saw this thread on the sidebar, and didn't realize it was an old thread. I instantly though, 'damn it, Bisu won, now the fanboys will never shut up.' Hurray for being wrong :D


Same here. I thought "you must be kidding me; one win and the Fantasy bandwagon already set off".

But I am still shocked how easily Bisu went down last night. Shocking...
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
March 20 2009 21:43 GMT
#344
On March 21 2009 04:17 poor newb wrote:
dont worry, fantasy will break his back and bisu osl champ


lol
One ring, to rule them all!
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
March 20 2009 22:37 GMT
#345
On March 21 2009 03:06 fanatacist wrote:
I hate people. Seriously.

OMGOMGOMG ITS DA END OF PEEPL TALKIN BOUT BISU BEING SOME ARBITRARY SLANG WORD LOL PRAISE THA LAWD

being considered "bonjwa" is not some arbitrary slang word, its about the most difficult and honorful to achieve nickname for a pro... only 4 people ever had it and nobody has had it since 2007. Its about the same as these "grandmaster" titles in chess or smth, only that the criteria to be "bonjwa" are not as clearly defined as grandmaster in chess is. But still, the fact that the SC community is widely in agreeance to call boxer/nada/savior/oov bonjwa shows you the term "bonjwa" has its right. People will see when a new bonjwa turns up (if a bonjwa ever turns up again) and call him that and only a very small portion of antifans will disagree.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
March 20 2009 22:55 GMT
#346
On March 21 2009 07:37 damenmofa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 03:06 fanatacist wrote:
I hate people. Seriously.

OMGOMGOMG ITS DA END OF PEEPL TALKIN BOUT BISU BEING SOME ARBITRARY SLANG WORD LOL PRAISE THA LAWD

being considered "bonjwa" is not some arbitrary slang word, its about the most difficult and honorful to achieve nickname for a pro... only 4 people ever had it and nobody has had it since 2007. Its about the same as these "grandmaster" titles in chess or smth, only that the criteria to be "bonjwa" are not as clearly defined as grandmaster in chess is. But still, the fact that the SC community is widely in agreeance to call boxer/nada/savior/oov bonjwa shows you the term "bonjwa" has its right. People will see when a new bonjwa turns up (if a bonjwa ever turns up again) and call him that and only a very small portion of antifans will disagree.


I think what matters is how the opening poster said "I heard that koreans fans gone crazy after Bisu winning the GCL, the fans are arguing now about that is Bisu the 5th Bonjwa or not".

Look, I'll be the first to admit that the talk will have to be put away for a while until Bisu can start winning consecutive championships. But the anti-Bisu/Bonjwa hate is out of proportion. Having a 'Bonjwa' or best of everyone is always a good thing for any sport. With Jordan in the NBA, Tiger in golf, Gretzky/Lemieux in hockey, their success made their respective sports that much more appealing to people.

Were Bisu to become the next Bonjwa, his skill coupled with his good looks would create a wonderful opportunity for Starcraft to grow, especially outside of Korea as the release of SC2 approaches. The fact that many people here wanted Bisu to fail so much demonstrates a lack of foresight.
Moo
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
March 20 2009 22:57 GMT
#347
Last couple of pages is full of butthurt Savior fans, aka anti-Bisu fans.

Ridiculous.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 20 2009 22:58 GMT
#348
Bisu's just maintaining his method of operation. Two titles, then take a little break. He's not done yet.
oatboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States198 Posts
March 20 2009 23:07 GMT
#349
so in a year or so he'll have six? It'd be hard to deny him bonjwa status if he had six titles.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
March 20 2009 23:11 GMT
#350
On March 21 2009 08:07 oatboy wrote:
so in a year or so he'll have six? It'd be hard to deny him bonjwa status if he had six titles.


assuming he does get that far...
We need another zerg bonjwa
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 21 2009 03:41 GMT
#351
God you gotta love these pathetic haters who are even more annoying than the hardcore Bisu fans themselves.
Peace~
IzaG
Profile Joined February 2009
Trinidad/Tobago93 Posts
March 21 2009 03:43 GMT
#352
Of course Bisu is bonjwa !
Real men play Terran
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
March 21 2009 03:48 GMT
#353
On March 21 2009 07:37 damenmofa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 03:06 fanatacist wrote:
I hate people. Seriously.

OMGOMGOMG ITS DA END OF PEEPL TALKIN BOUT BISU BEING SOME ARBITRARY SLANG WORD LOL PRAISE THA LAWD

being considered "bonjwa" is not some arbitrary slang word, its about the most difficult and honorful to achieve nickname for a pro... only 4 people ever had it and nobody has had it since 2007. Its about the same as these "grandmaster" titles in chess or smth, only that the criteria to be "bonjwa" are not as clearly defined as grandmaster in chess is. But still, the fact that the SC community is widely in agreeance to call boxer/nada/savior/oov bonjwa shows you the term "bonjwa" has its right. People will see when a new bonjwa turns up (if a bonjwa ever turns up again) and call him that and only a very small portion of antifans will disagree.


I think nobody will doubt that Boxer/Nada/Savior/Oov were bonjwa.
POGGERS
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
March 21 2009 04:16 GMT
#354
On March 21 2009 04:17 poor newb wrote:
dont worry, fantasy will break his back and bisu osl champ


Hahah
Writerman what
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
March 21 2009 04:38 GMT
#355
Well, (P)Bisu was at the top of FakeSteve`s Power Rank for 7 months (technically 8, but I do not count the 8th since that is when he was defeated by (T)Mind). Does that count?

(Warning! OSL spoiler ahead)

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While I wanted (P)Bisu to become a Bonjwa, I think he might have just wasted his chance by losing to (T)fantasy. While that does not necessarilly mean he cannot still become Bonjwa, I just do not think he will have enough time to establish himself as one before the scene starts to switch to SC2, which leaves me quite dissapointed.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
iSCOUT4u
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States327 Posts
March 21 2009 05:46 GMT
#356
I dont understand how July isnt on this list of 4.
<3 R1CH <3 TL Just ordered a TL shirt and can't wait :)
Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
March 21 2009 06:28 GMT
#357
The problem with July is that even at his strongest, he wasn't ever at a level above his competition. He was the foil to oov much like yellow was to boxer, but his accomplishments, while impressive, weren't elevated above those of his contemporaries to the same extent that the bonjwas' were.
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
March 21 2009 06:53 GMT
#358
On March 21 2009 14:46 brad3104 wrote:
I dont understand how July isnt on this list of 4.


He's successful, but he's never completely dominated the scene.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
March 21 2009 09:10 GMT
#359
People going on about anti-bisu fans and being hypocritical need to shut the fuck up for once..

to me, they are worse and more annoying than diehard fans/over the top haters.
sAviOr...
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
March 21 2009 10:31 GMT
#360
No way. (Maybe if he gets a couple more MSL titles and a strong OSL one.)
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