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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-08 22:49:58
February 08 2009 16:23 GMT
#1
I heard that koreans fans gone crazy after Bisu winning the GCL, the fans are arguing now about that is Bisu the 5th Bonjwa or not. Cobet, the admin of replays.net gave me some database of Bonjwas and Bisu, I put it to excel file and it looks like this:
[image loading]

I think the only thing what Bisu miss is one OSL champion, but the recent GCL was also very unique, it's very hard to say =/

So I wanna hear you guys that what you think about this? Bisu for Next Bonjwa?

[image loading]

Poll: Is Bisu Bonjwa?
(Vote): Yes, the first protoss bonjwa!
(Vote): No way
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-08 16:26:47
February 08 2009 16:26 GMT
#2
Best protoss ever for sure, but I would wait with bonjwa status till he wins the OSL.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
February 08 2009 16:28 GMT
#3
Definite maybe.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
February 08 2009 16:28 GMT
#4
even I'm voting "NO WAY"
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
February 08 2009 16:30 GMT
#5
Just 5 more months at KeSPA No1 and an OSL title and he's got it.
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 08 2009 16:32 GMT
#6
If you have to ask if he's bonjwa, he's not bonjwa.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7851 Posts
February 08 2009 16:33 GMT
#7
Bisu would need to win the OSL and place high in the next MSL while preforming in dominant fashion for me to even consider him. Bonjwa implies THE dominant player. No way Bisu is the dominant force in SC
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
February 08 2009 16:34 GMT
#8
As a Bisu fan, I must vote No. If he wins Batoo OSL (which I dearly hope he does, and I actually expect him to), then I will reconsider.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
February 08 2009 16:34 GMT
#9
how can he be a bonjwa w/o winning an OSL?
You can't fight the feeling.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 08 2009 16:35 GMT
#10
On February 08 2009 02:12 Hot_Bid wrote:
if theres a legitimate debate about a player being a bonjwa or not (re: the bisu debate) that player is probably not a bonjwa. you don't see many people arguing whether nada, iloveoov, or savior were bonjwas in their time. i doubt people will look back at this time period and say "bisu was bonjwa" even if he wins this OSL, because you just don't drop out at the Ro32 in your "best" mu if you're the dominant player.


Terran & Potato Salad.
cosiant
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada616 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-08 16:36:16
February 08 2009 16:35 GMT
#11
Even Bisu himself is saying no way

This is from the interview:
- You still aren't hearing the name "Bonjwa", how do you feel?
▲ I was asked this before. Honestly, I don't really want to hear it. When I saw bonjwas in my eyes, they all rised to the top, and toppled down to the abyss. I don't want to be a bonjwa, rather I want to be that guy who was good and didn't fall into the abyss.

If the guy himself doesn't want the title, than you should not give it to him.
Member of the "Fuck yeah, Canata!" committee!
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 08 2009 16:35 GMT
#12
On February 09 2009 01:34 lokiM wrote:
how can he be a bonjwa w/o winning an OSL?


remember savior ?
Terran & Potato Salad.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
February 08 2009 16:38 GMT
#13
On February 09 2009 01:35 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2009 02:12 Hot_Bid wrote:
if theres a legitimate debate about a player being a bonjwa or not (re: the bisu debate) that player is probably not a bonjwa. you don't see many people arguing whether nada, iloveoov, or savior were bonjwas in their time. i doubt people will look back at this time period and say "bisu was bonjwa" even if he wins this OSL, because you just don't drop out at the Ro32 in your "best" mu if you're the dominant player.



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Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
February 08 2009 16:38 GMT
#14
First, this debate shouldnt even happen until he gets an OSL win. You cant be a bonjwa by ignoring the most prestigious tournament in Korea.

Then its a serious discussion.

Also:
+ Show Spoiler [GOM Classic Season 2] +

Winning the upcoming "Best of GOM" Bo5 vs Jaedong for 10,000,000 won would help a lot, because his losing record vs both Flash and Jaedong makes him a tough candidate as the unquestioned best in Korea.
Writerman what
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7012 Posts
February 08 2009 16:39 GMT
#15
On February 09 2009 01:35 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2009 01:34 lokiM wrote:
how can he be a bonjwa w/o winning an OSL?


remember savior ?

He did win an OSL.

Still I don't think bonjwaness shouldn't be measured (so much) in titles but rather just the amount of domination you do, like iloveoovs 70/70/80 winning percentages and 27-0 tvz. Being bonjwa to me means someone who is unbeatable for quite a while, Bisu still has very good contenders like JD/Flash who have big chances of taking games or even series from him.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 08 2009 16:39 GMT
#16
some random poll won't make him bonjwa

sorry
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
February 08 2009 16:40 GMT
#17
Not yet, he's playing like one now though.
日本語が分かりますか
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-08 16:42:08
February 08 2009 16:40 GMT
#18
On February 09 2009 01:38 Atrioc wrote:
Winning the upcoming "Best of GOM" Bo5 vs Jaedong for 10,000,000 won would help a lot, because his losing record vs both Flash and Jaedong makes him a tough candidate as the unquestioned best in Korea.

Too bad JD will catch Bisu in his weakest MU now and buttfuck him for 10 000 000 won thus burying this bonjwa talk. Shit and I wanted a toss bonjwa...
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 08 2009 16:41 GMT
#19
On February 09 2009 01:39 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2009 01:35 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On February 09 2009 01:34 lokiM wrote:
how can he be a bonjwa w/o winning an OSL?


remember savior ?

He did win an OSL.

Still I don't think bonjwaness shouldn't be measured (so much) in titles but rather just the amount of domination you do, like iloveoovs 70/70/80 winning percentages and 27-0 tvz. Being bonjwa to me means someone who is unbeatable for quite a while, Bisu still has very good contenders like JD/Flash who have big chances of taking games or even series from him.


uh ? i know, but he was seen as the sc villain way before winning his first OSL
Terran & Potato Salad.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
February 08 2009 16:41 GMT
#20
On February 09 2009 01:35 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2009 01:34 lokiM wrote:
how can he be a bonjwa w/o winning an OSL?


remember savior ?


One of the most amazing OSL runs of all time against the best Terrans in the world on bad Zerg maps?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/66_ShinHan2006-3_OSL
Writerman what
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