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kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
February 09 2009 20:33 GMT
#881
This is definately the correct choice. Brazilian coachs don't do so well in England imo.
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
February 09 2009 20:40 GMT
#882
Scolari..

WTF :o

he didnt do THAT bad.. wtf..
hatred outlives the hateful
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28636 Posts
February 09 2009 20:56 GMT
#883
well recent results were pretty bad and they did bad in every game vs top teams
the start of the season was absolutely magnificent, i pictured chelsea as completely unstoppable this season at first, pretty much until they lost vs liverpool. :p
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kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
February 09 2009 21:02 GMT
#884
On February 10 2009 05:40 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Scolari..

WTF :o

he didnt do THAT bad.. wtf..


The last team Chelsea has beaten who was top 15 in the premiereship was Bolton back on the 6th of December 2008... I would say that is pretty bad for a team of Chelsea's caliber. This is especially the case when they started out the season raping anything and everything in their path.
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white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
February 09 2009 21:21 GMT
#885
I guess he has to go, because the chelsea team won't really buy the south american way of football which I hope is what Scolari is trying to do. Basically all the players are mourinho players and are suited to his type of football while at chelsea, set piece and power. All the people say that chelsea doesn't have any width and shit, but hey, scolari didn't sell robben/duff/swp. It is true that he bought deco (another cm? wtf, they have lampard, ballack, essien, mikel) and another defender but not a winger, but you have to wonder how much money he was given compare to previous manager.

I think it is the same case for Tony Adams, sold defoe and diarra and where did the 35 million go? He was basically working on a budget because HR had got all the players on crazy wages.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
February 10 2009 00:39 GMT
#886
Apparently in the last 16 months Chelsea has paid around 40 million pounds in compensation to fired managers. Heh.

Sure he was underperforming, but Chelsea isn't in that bad of a position atm. 4th in the league, only 7pts behind 1st and still in the CL. If these are Roman's standards now, then the next manager better have balls. The story here is more about Abramovic's ineptitude as a club owner than Scolari's credentials as a manager, which have been well proven in the past.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
February 10 2009 01:10 GMT
#887
On February 10 2009 09:39 warding wrote:
Apparently in the last 16 months Chelsea has paid around 40 million pounds in compensation to fired managers. Heh.

Sure he was underperforming, but Chelsea isn't in that bad of a position atm. 4th in the league, only 7pts behind 1st and still in the CL. If these are Roman's standards now, then the next manager better have balls. The story here is more about Abramovic's ineptitude as a club owner than Scolari's credentials as a manager, which have been well proven in the past.


Yup you're totally right, this is about Abramovic not really knowing what he's doing.

Jose Mourinho is an exceptional manager but I don't think Abramovic realised what he had. Mourinho turned a bunch of random skilled players into a team that won the premier league by the largest margin ever.
I think Abromovic thought "This managing is easy, anyone can do it. All you need is good players." So he first decided he was going to be in charge of buying all players (like Shevchenko); then sacked Mourinho for playing "boring". He has since realised that actually winning is more important and Chelsea haven't got more exciting anyway; they've just lost more.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 10 2009 02:37 GMT
#888
LOLOLOLOL
Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
February 10 2009 02:53 GMT
#889
On February 10 2009 10:10 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2009 09:39 warding wrote:
Apparently in the last 16 months Chelsea has paid around 40 million pounds in compensation to fired managers. Heh.

Sure he was underperforming, but Chelsea isn't in that bad of a position atm. 4th in the league, only 7pts behind 1st and still in the CL. If these are Roman's standards now, then the next manager better have balls. The story here is more about Abramovic's ineptitude as a club owner than Scolari's credentials as a manager, which have been well proven in the past.


Yup you're totally right, this is about Abramovic not really knowing what he's doing.

Jose Mourinho is an exceptional manager but I don't think Abramovic realised what he had. Mourinho turned a bunch of random skilled players into a team that won the premier league by the largest margin ever.
I think Abromovic thought "This managing is easy, anyone can do it. All you need is good players." So he first decided he was going to be in charge of buying all players (like Shevchenko); then sacked Mourinho for playing "boring". He has since realised that actually winning is more important and Chelsea haven't got more exciting anyway; they've just lost more.


I agree completely with your view, abramovich just doesn't know how to run a football club. Chelsea just doesn't have the right players to play an "entertaining" style. Their cms are uncreative and they have no true wingers to start with. Both Mourinho and Grant shouldn't have been fired. I mean, Avram Grant ALMOST won a treble yet be still gets fired. Now, there's unlikely to be any quality managers willing coach Chelsea.
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
February 10 2009 04:09 GMT
#890
sacking mourinho was unbelievably stupid
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28636 Posts
February 10 2009 09:24 GMT
#891
oh there are still going to be quality managers willing to coach chelsea

but yea sacking mourinho was unbelievably stupid..
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kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
February 10 2009 13:36 GMT
#892
Two names, Guus Hiddink and Avram Grant. If Grant comes, his only till summer.
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 10 2009 16:06 GMT
#893
As far as I know Rijkaard plans to coach a big team for the upcoming season, i can see him joining chelsea or milan
Terran & Potato Salad.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
February 10 2009 16:08 GMT
#894
hiddink is in talks with chelsea to take over for the rest of the season apparently
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28636 Posts
February 10 2009 16:49 GMT
#895
ya hiddink seems likely
prolly the best choice anyway, hes familiar with roman and is one hell of a great coach..
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TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
February 10 2009 16:55 GMT
#896
This is all interesting but the more important issue is who's gonna replace Tony Adams!

I'm not too sure if it's a good thing a super manager comes in right now, how much of an impact can it make, managers need to be given time as shown by Wenger and Ferguson and at this point of the season the manager might not even be here for next season even if he takes them to 2nd, e.g. Grant. So I think leave the high profile manager to start afresh at the end of the season
UbRi
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Italy603 Posts
February 10 2009 19:27 GMT
#897
Aren't you hyped up for today match? I mean the 2 most succesful nations are meeting tonight Brazil vs Italy!! There's to say that France vs Argentina and England vs Spain are just as exciting though....
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-10 20:34:03
February 10 2009 20:33 GMT
#898
great goal by the raper
[edit] no i'm not hyped up because they are friendly matches
For the Swarm!
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
February 10 2009 20:50 GMT
#899
Man, what a good game right now between Brazil and Italy. Brazil is kind of dominating in possession but Italy also had one of their goals taken away and have had some chances on goal as well.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
February 10 2009 22:54 GMT
#900
Brazil wins 2-0. I read Italy had 2 goals but both were disallowed. Was it a mistake? How was the game?
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