EPTJust Follow these steps:
http://www.iccup.com/iccmatchlist/105247/1x1/
ROFL to all you D+'s on ICCUP
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
Just Follow these steps: http://www.iccup.com/iccmatchlist/105247/1x1/ | ||
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
I don't really see what you gain in playing D as C. You get any gain skill, and everyone can see that you've been newbbashing  | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On July 04 2008 01:45 Kingsp4de20 wrote: You to can make it to C+ Just Follow these steps: http://www.iccup.com/iccmatchlist/105247/1x1/ I don't get it. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
He only plays REALLY terrible opponents, look at their records lol. God those guys are the worst kind of players what the fuck do you achieve by only playing vs bad players lmao that guy will stay terrible forever. | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
even sadder that there are people out there bad enough to think he actually has a clue  | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On July 04 2008 01:58 Frits wrote: He only plays REALLY terrible opponents, look at their records lol. Ah right Rank is obviously more important that skill to this guy lol. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On July 04 2008 02:02 Tropics wrote: so sad that this kid makes "help" videos bragging about how good he is even sadder that there are people out there bad enough to think he actually has a clue Yeah... I feel bad for them cuz they are like omg B- is helping us! And he is really D+ | ||
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ShmotZ
United States581 Posts
this guys a disgrace! | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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RoC)Ninjah
United States238 Posts
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
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Daveed
United States236 Posts
The solution is clearly for gosu smurfs to ask him for training, then own him. | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
lol @ only two games vs Terran. Probably bans them EDIT: Ahhh, I get it, Op is not the player still lol XD | ||
zatic
Zurich15342 Posts
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
listing to a few of his videos actualy made me worse | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
wtf man didn't you see his fpvods? guy's gosu! A friend linked me to them once. All he did was ask for donations in one. In the other I watched, he bragged about how hard reaver sair is to pull off, and that since he's so gosu and everyone watching his videos was noob, they shouldn't expect to be able to do it for a long time. Then I watched his macro go to shit while he had some pretty lame drops, idle shuttles, etc. | ||
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
He also deletes the comments I leave him on his videos when I ask him why he plays D's. Edit: I joined their channel on East and saw this.. is this his new way of dodging? ![[image loading]](http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/3006/combatexlolvh4.jpg) | ||
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
What a doucebag | ||
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Straylight
Canada706 Posts
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EnergyTraction
Canada233 Posts
And why do you even care? Did he beat you? That's usually the reason this shit comes up It's also funny that nobody ever said anything to Kwark despite being 250-100 B- playing all D's | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
"Hey mate!!R you a korean or canadian?" just some comments from his youtube page | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
On July 04 2008 07:28 EnergyTraction wrote: Every thread about people who do this on ICCUP turns into a clan x17 east forum kinda of topic it's really sad. And why do you even care? Did he beat you? That's usually the reason this shit comes up It's also funny that nobody ever said anything to Kwark despite being 250-100 B- playing all D's you must be combat-ex's boyfriend | ||
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JIJI
Canada291 Posts
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=TZijcwhe_YE Mock his spelling skills >_> | ||
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kickdim
United States39 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
On July 04 2008 07:28 EnergyTraction wrote: It's also funny that nobody ever said anything to Kwark despite being 250-100 B- playing all D's that's so true, its just a huge popularity contest here. | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On July 05 2008 07:06 Koltz wrote: that's so true, its just a huge popularity contest here. I don't know what you're talking about, because last season he had B- and certainly did not play all Ds. | ||
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
http://i26.tinypic.com/2eaou87.png (Just look at the changes collumn, you get 130~ for beating someone on your rank) | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10828 Posts
On July 05 2008 07:49 Koltz wrote: Last season was worse, but this shows the picture as well I think. (I don't mean to belittle kwark at all, I am just pointing out that kwark and combat are similar in this aspect) http://i26.tinypic.com/2eaou87.png (Just look at the changes collumn, you get 130~ for beating someone on your rank) many of those people he was "bashing" are TL members that probably asked for a game | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
On July 05 2008 07:06 Koltz wrote: his skill is decent just this is what i think kills his reputation :\ that's so true, its just a huge popularity contest here. Wow, I watch the first ten seconds and I'm like meh... and I skip ahead a little, to 1:38. Then he just says "I'm a dumbass" and I start laughing. | ||
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VultureRush
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I must be at that skill range "just a little below [his] own" where I can't run 12 goons in from above and kill a cc defended by 1 tank. Or manually unload zealots from a moving shuttle to tank-bomb. Damn, and I thought those 7v1 BGH comp stomps were helping ... | ||
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ReiKo
Croatia1023 Posts
What an idiot... | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
On July 06 2008 22:32 VultureRush wrote: + Show Spoiler +Man, I wish *I* could be this good! I must be at that skill range "just a little below [his] own" where I can't run 12 goons in from above and kill a cc defended by 1 tank. Or manually unload zealots from a moving shuttle to tank-bomb. Damn, and I thought those 7v1 BGH comp stomps were helping ... LOL! What intense micro... [crappy] Zealot bomb, and target CC.. You must need like... at least 20 apm to do that. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On July 08 2008 05:34 PsycHOTemplar wrote: LOL! What intense micro... [crappy] Zealot bomb, and target CC.. You must need like... at least 20 apm to do that. I mean... the guy is OK, but he thinks he's way better than he is. I would say he's around my skill level which... isn't impressive. Lol. Someone like nony or other top TSL players would eat him for breakfast. | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
Thank you for exposing this retard. | ||
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Bloodyhawk
United States3 Posts
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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kpcrew
Korea (South)1071 Posts
On July 05 2008 08:16 Hypnosis wrote: hes ALMOST as cool as flashyfinacier LMFAO FLASHFINANCIER i smashed him 1v1 and kid got so raged, begging me for a re for like 10 minutes beat him again and then went to eat dinner and when i came back he was yelling about how he "beat me" | ||
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kpcrew
Korea (South)1071 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On July 05 2008 07:49 Koltz wrote: Last season was worse, but this shows the picture as well I think. (I don't mean to belittle kwark at all, I am just pointing out that kwark and combat are similar in this aspect) http://i26.tinypic.com/2eaou87.png (Just look at the changes collumn, you get 130~ for beating someone on your rank) uhhh lol. that's pretty interesting. | ||
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Yaqoob
Canada3330 Posts
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Also combat-ex or w/e introduced himself to me on ICCUP and asked for games. After I said "no" he told me he is "kinda famous on youtube" and would love to game sometime. Instant red flag | ||
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FR4CT4L
Australia697 Posts
Down the drain that idea goes combat-ex. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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Shauni
4077 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On July 08 2008 08:46 Bloodyhawk wrote: I love Combat-EX he is my best friend so fuck all of you who are hatin' go Combat-EX forever. Just because he is your friend doesn't change the fact he is ridiculous. | ||
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/5777/canadablolek1.jpg) Me and Saya have been hanging out in their channel lately and I've been playing their team, it's pretty funny. Let's see here.. First of all: We obs'ed a PvT where the P's build was: Pylon Gas Pylon Gate I PvT'ed a guy and owned him with a 2 DT drop, and I also got a sick manner pylon on him, so when he told me not to make Zealots I agreed. They're pretty much all like Combat. The people I've played both had like 200 APM and just spam constantly, but never get anything useful done so it's pretty easy to just a move into their forces. Oh, and whenever someone wants to play Combat, here's what he does: You have to answer a question right (sometimes it's math, like the one in the photo above), then you get entered in a little mini tournament. Whoever wins that tournament gets to play Combat. So like someone else said (can't remember who), Sea[Shield] comes on West and will game anyone, but nope, Combat is better than that. So in conclusion, Combat > Sea[Shield]?! | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
So in conclusion, Combat > Sea[Shield]?! well duh, sea isn't youtube famous like combat is | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 18 2008 00:32 GoShox wrote: LOLOLOLLOL Combat on Canada national team?! + Show Spoiler + Me and Saya have been hanging out in their channel lately and I've been playing their team, it's pretty funny. Let's see here.. First of all: We obs'ed a PvT where the P's build was: Pylon Gas Pylon Gate I PvT'ed a guy and owned him with a 2 DT drop, and I also got a sick manner pylon on him, so when he told me not to make Zealots I agreed. They're pretty much all like Combat. The people I've played both had like 200 APM and just spam constantly, but never get anything useful done so it's pretty easy to just a move into their forces. Oh, and whenever someone wants to play Combat, here's what he does: You have to answer a question right (sometimes it's math, like the one in the photo above), then you get entered in a little mini tournament. Whoever wins that tournament gets to play Combat. So like someone else said (can't remember who), Sea[Shield] comes on West and will game anyone, but nope, Combat is better than that. So in conclusion, Combat > Sea[Shield]?! They're pretty much all like Combat. The people I've played both had like 200 APM and just spam constantly, but never get anything useful done so it's pretty easy to just a move into their forces. Not everyone there is like Combat,Its bad enough you think that. Seriously like even if Combat is a noob not everyone in that clan is absolute garbage dude. Some of them are actually okay. But yeah alot of that shit above i agree with. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On July 08 2008 08:46 Bloodyhawk wrote: I love Combat-EX he is my best friend so fuck all of you who are hatin' go Combat-EX forever. 5509 ca combat-ex 5048 us Bloodyhawk2000 05 : 24 +130 Details 5379 ca combat-ex 5123 us Bloodyhawk2000 04 : 45 +130 Details 5249 ca combat-ex 5198 us Bloodyhawk2000 20 : 07 +130 Details | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
At least he's out there getting new people interested in the game - providing things like Tasteless's GOM casts a lot more of those critical clicks that make GOM want to keep doing it. Who gives a shit if he's not a 36th level grandmaster - if he gets people interested they'll figure things out for themselves unless they're complete retards, in which case, are you really worried about what retards think? | ||
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yenta
Poland1142 Posts
http://sc.iccup.com/iccthread/30895/ So we add a new chapter to the story of Combat-EX | ||
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ZhenMiChan
Netherlands1181 Posts
 he deletes SO MANY COMMENTS WUUUUUUUUUUT | ||
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zatic
Zurich15342 Posts
On July 19 2008 04:57 jgad wrote: Man, TL can sure get its panties in a twist over nothing. It's a fucking game, get over yourselves man. Who cares who he plays? I mean, shit, OMG some insignificant n00b nobody half way around the world watched Combat and now has an inaccurate understanding of Starcraft!! Actually, I care. Friends of mine often come and ask me why they lost a certain game. So I watch the rep and tell them what they did wrong. But they'll get all defensive and say "but that's what combat-ex told us" repeatedly. If I tell them that he is an idiot and they should not listen to him they point out that he is B on Iccup and thus must know what he's talking about. Thus, trough his abusive play and braggish fpvods he makes my BW life miserable. At least I want to laugh excessively about him only newbstomping, dodging games and deleting comments in return. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
that has to be the worst part about it all. | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
On July 06 2008 22:32 VultureRush wrote: + Show Spoiler +Man, I wish *I* could be this good! I must be at that skill range "just a little below [his] own" where I can't run 12 goons in from above and kill a cc defended by 1 tank. Or manually unload zealots from a moving shuttle to tank-bomb. Damn, and I thought those 7v1 BGH comp stomps were helping ... My favourite part of this is around 6:05 when he loses a bunch of goons and damages a bunch more, all just to kill an SCV | ||
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iG.Aura
Poland686 Posts
other than that, this guy is a joke | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
On July 21 2008 20:54 yenta wrote: I found this kinda funny http://sc.iccup.com/iccthread/30895/ So we add a new chapter to the story of Combat-EX LMAO!!!!!!!!! | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
oh my god hahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha Oh god Zatic I feel your pain | ||
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nAi.PrOtOsS
Canada784 Posts
On July 22 2008 00:48 Kingsp4de20 wrote: Haha so I joined team EX the other day and tried out for there A squad....I 4-0'd combat pvp then he told me that thumb hurts so he only had 130 apm isntead of his usual 170 O.o ROFL. I guess some how he made it to canada B as well...sad day for canada b, on the other hand good day for any team they play He joined canada B? Sad day for Canadians .... | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
This guy is D+, C- at best. | ||
Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
Anyways, does anyone else get this mental picture whenever he speaks? http://www.blogadilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/mclovin1.jpg Well, maybe that's giving him too much credit. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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ColdLava
Canada1673 Posts
[Edit: Sorry, nevermind. It was already pointed out in that iccup thread link] | ||
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EnergyTraction
Canada233 Posts
MY RXN SPEED SO FAST I CAN REACT. BAD THING ABOUT LONGINUS T CAN EXPO TOO FAST. OH YA, DONT TRY THIS CUZ ITS ONLY GONNA WORK CUZ IM SO GOOD AND I KNOW IM SO GOOD He's not maxed and he has 707070707070 money and gas, and the T he's playing is really bad I take umbrage with the fact that noobs think this crap is decent, look at this comment "can you post a vid when you like battle a total noob? and you own him rly hard? Rofl n e ' weyz, nice vid, watching em all : )" | ||
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FlameD[TOp]
Canada247 Posts
I remember talk on east about how Combat was the next big Canadian Gamer until people looked at his matchlist! | ||
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leviathan400
United Kingdom393 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 21 2008 20:54 yenta wrote: I found this kinda funny http://sc.iccup.com/iccthread/30895/ So we add a new chapter to the story of Combat-EX hahahahahahaha dude thanks so much for that So why the hell isn't he banned yet. | ||
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SaveYourSavior
United States1071 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
And he is very well mannered too. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
http://www.sc2gg.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3068 posted there. | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
http://fighterreplays.com/starcraft/replays/f5da12 That is a replay that I've played with him before, and I have a lot others that were not uploaded, but to be honest he was not that great. I'd say he would peak at D+. Maybe Combat-Ex neglected him and now he wants to climb the corporate ladder the same way naughty business men do to get his deserved attention. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
But sadly, I bet this prick brags about his "amazing B- rank" that he has achieved by owning bad players. VERY VERY BAD! YOU SUCK COMBAT-EX | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
I wish they would get rid of him, his ignorance is only making D- dumber. By the way you guys are gonna love this! (NSFW) It isn't on his channel anymore, but someone had it cached on Firefox and uploaded it again. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
Someone should get a large Bell. Put it over his head. Take a metal bat. Ring it x100. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 22 2008 12:22 SaveYourSavior wrote: the earlier screenshot, the only good person in that channel is ace[emg] who actually earns his iccup rank unlike combat. Ace is gosu..though and he doesnt abuse plus he's really cool. (Played like 10 games with me and i won one!) WTF AT THAT VIDEO WTF | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9601/combatexscomputerblewupaj7.png) | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On July 24 2008 00:15 LuckyFool wrote: Hey he's B- now, he's so freaking GOSU! Yeah lets slob his knob! | ||
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
On July 24 2008 00:15 LuckyFool wrote: Hey he's B- now, he's so freaking GOSU! I'm learning sc from him! blackknight1506 you are really good at starcraft why dont you try going pro LOL | ||
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
On July 23 2008 23:00 SCC-Faust wrote: Hey guys look what happened to Combat-Ex Hey, yo uhave an Ex name? I want in the clan! I hang out in there sometimes, I'm GoShox, I think I know some other people too that are in the 'clan' just for kicks | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On July 23 2008 23:00 SCC-Faust wrote: Hey guys look what happened to Combat-Ex if you spent this time practicing your tvx and zvx you could be b+ by now | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
On July 23 2008 23:00 SCC-Faust wrote: Hey guys look what happened to Combat-Ex Hmm we must thank the computer gods | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On July 24 2008 00:42 Caller wrote: if you spent this time practicing your tvx and zvx you could be b+ by now Caller, this is well deserving of my time! | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
Just do !scq if it gets annoying. ;p | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
It has been like 15 minutes and I still can't log onto USEast. This is obviously Combat-Ex's fault. If he didn't abuse to get B- I wouldn't be spamming his channel thus resulting in flooding out and getting banned. | ||
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
On July 24 2008 00:52 SCC-Faust wrote: Lol! I don't think you'll be seeing me in a week or two. It has been like 15 minutes and I still can't log onto USEast. This is obviously Combat-Ex's fault. If he didn't abuse to get B- I wouldn't be spamming his channel thus resulting in flooding out and getting banned. It's okay, I think I'll hit the 1000 mail mark for Combat in 30 minutes or so. | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
To be honest I wonder what is going to happen with all of this. SC2GG.com has just been informed about Combat-Ex and the members are being open-minded about it, so now I wonder if they will take any action. Combat-Ex kind of helped SC2GG.com; he gets like what? At the very least 2000 views on his FPVODs and mentions SC2GG.com at like the beginning of almost every single one. This is going to be a sticky situation (and I don't mean the good kind). | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
Are any of TL members smurfing as Ninja-EX ? | ||
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Greth
Belgium318 Posts
What combat-ex does on Iccup is not our concern. Combat-EX has indeed supplied us with traffic and we think it would be very sad to see him get involved into a thing like this. One think I find strange is that people seem to immediately attack Combat-EX for the videos he has supplied on Youtube. Combat-EX has done a great service for the foreign Starcraft Community - he has helped a lot of old and new players get back to the game - regardless what he has done on Iccup. Whether or not his advice and skill is good or bad is irrelevant. What he did was completely voluntary. He spent a great deal of time making all those video's. And to all who criticise him I always say the same thing: Please, provide us with - what you think - is a better alternative, on the same scale and frequency that Combat-EX provides; and even THEN there is no way to undermine the effort he has put forth for our community. The Internet is always quick to judge, and some even derive pleasure from driving this witch-hunt to extremes. Please do put all of this into perspective - as a community. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 24 2008 04:36 Greth wrote: At SC2GG we are keeping an open mind. We will wait until we hear about Combat-EX himself before we announce anything, if there is anything to announce to begin with. What combat-ex does on Iccup is not our concern. Combat-EX has indeed supplied us with traffic and we think it would be very sad to see him get involved into a thing like this. One think I find strange is that people seem to immediately attack Combat-EX for the videos he has supplied on Youtube. Combat-EX has done a great service for the foreign Starcraft Community - he has helped a lot of old and new players get back to the game - regardless what he has done on Iccup. Whether or not his advice and skill is good or bad is irrelevant. What he did was completely voluntary. He spent a great deal of time making all those video's. And to all who criticise him I always say the same thing: Please, provide us with - what you think - is a better alternative, on the same scale and frequency that Combat-EX provides; and even THEN there is no way to undermine the effort he has put forth for our community. The Internet is always quick to judge, and some even derive pleasure from driving this witch-hunt to extremes. Please do put all of this into perspective - as a community. Oh man how can you possibly defend him, if SC2GG wants to keep any credibility I'd break connections with him so fast it's not even funny. Who cares if it's voluntarily? His advice is fucking worthless, he doesn't know shit about the game. It IS relevant because all he does is hype himself and then steer people the wrong way. You could say he's doing the opposite of a service, and he's not getting new people to play the game, he's just getting noobs to follow him around and suck his dick. Second of all he isn't doing it to do us a service, he just likes to attention whore, he's done fuck all for the community. He isn't doing anything for the community because he's too fucking shitty to do anything for the community, he's just some d+ guy who abused to B- and is now giving terrible advice. Christ even I could own shit out of his pathetic protoss. This guy is a bigger failure than lastshadow. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 24 2008 04:36 Greth wrote: some stuff . did you even read this thread? Because most of the points you brought up have already been refuted here. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
On July 24 2008 04:36 Greth wrote: At SC2GG we are keeping an open mind. We will wait until we hear about Combat-EX himself before we announce anything, if there is anything to announce to begin with. What combat-ex does on Iccup is not our concern. Combat-EX has indeed supplied us with traffic and we think it would be very sad to see him get involved into a thing like this. One think I find strange is that people seem to immediately attack Combat-EX for the videos he has supplied on Youtube. Combat-EX has done a great service for the foreign Starcraft Community - he has helped a lot of old and new players get back to the game - regardless what he has done on Iccup. Whether or not his advice and skill is good or bad is irrelevant. What he did was completely voluntary. He spent a great deal of time making all those video's. And to all who criticise him I always say the same thing: Please, provide us with - what you think - is a better alternative, on the same scale and frequency that Combat-EX provides; and even THEN there is no way to undermine the effort he has put forth for our community. The Internet is always quick to judge, and some even derive pleasure from driving this witch-hunt to extremes. Please do put all of this into perspective - as a community. You either stand for ends justifying the means or you don't. If you want to get people back into StarCraft by giving them shitty analysis, that's your prerogative. And I say this representing myself, not TL.net. | ||
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Eti307
Canada3442 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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KwarK
United States42823 Posts
On July 04 2008 07:28 EnergyTraction wrote: Every thread about people who do this on ICCUP turns into a clan x17 east forum kinda of topic it's really sad. And why do you even care? Did he beat you? That's usually the reason this shit comes up It's also funny that nobody ever said anything to Kwark despite being 250-100 B- playing all D's Simply not true. Fuck you. | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
2.) Our prerogative has never been to bring people back to SC by giving poor advice. It has always been to produce the best English coverage we can, and to make it as accessible as possible. 3.) We have never made any statement claiming Combat's skill or SC achievements. 4.) And most importantly, most SC2GG members are also TL members. We don't troll here in hopes of finding some juicy, inflammatory thread. We browse the TL forums just like we do our own. Any time you work at something, you notice when people are critical of it. The allegations against Combat are unfortunate, but I fail to see how they should bring so much hate to SC2GG. I apologize outright for anything we've done to upset the bulk of the TL membership, and really hope that one day this ridiculous seperation in the community can go away. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 24 2008 05:59 intrigue wrote: sc2gg guys are you all fucking trolls or something I guess admitting they just want free views from combat and they don't have any integrity is harder than making up some bullshit excuse for it. | ||
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Kurotoss
Canada11 Posts
2. I'm going to investigate this and make sure it's either true or not true. 3. If we do find out he has been abusing there will definitely be a consequence for Combat on both iCCup and SC2GG (I am the head over at SC2GG and a SA over at iCCup) and a formal apology on behalf of SC2GG to the community. 4. If he hasn't been abusing then I expect the same in return. EDIT: Hey Plexa, it's Edwin, would you mind closing this thread until I get the investigation finished? Thanks. | ||
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KwarK
United States42823 Posts
On July 05 2008 07:49 Koltz wrote: Last season was worse, but this shows the picture as well I think. (I don't mean to belittle kwark at all, I am just pointing out that kwark and combat are similar in this aspect) http://i26.tinypic.com/2eaou87.png (Just look at the changes collumn, you get 130~ for beating someone on your rank) And then look at the date. When that was taken it was 2 weeks into the season and I was the highest ranked foreigner (and also the player with most games, the two facts being somewhat related). You try and find a game at B- at European times when there is no non Korean B- and only 4 non Korean C+s. Now look at my account more recently and you will find I only play my own rank, I don't dodge good stats and I still fucking hold my own. I got a high B rank last season and I will exceed it this. I am in no way comparable to Combat-Ex who does what he does because he can't beat his own rank. When there are no people of your own rank, or even of one rank below you, online then you have little choice. So don't just post your screenshots out of context when you know exactly what was going on. Oh, and two weeks into the season half those C rank guys I was playing there were B rank guys who just hadn't played that many games. Playing C ranks that early in the season is not noob-bashing. Half of them owned me and took 150 points off me for it. | ||
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Kurotoss
Canada11 Posts
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tiffany
3664 Posts
On July 05 2008 07:49 Koltz wrote: Last season was worse, but this shows the picture as well I think. (I don't mean to belittle kwark at all, I am just pointing out that kwark and combat are similar in this aspect) http://i26.tinypic.com/2eaou87.png (Just look at the changes collumn, you get 130~ for beating someone on your rank) irony? | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 24 2008 06:41 zulu_nation8 wrote: good luck with the investigation He wants proof? Take a fucking look at this. There's nothing you can deny about it. Guilty as fuck, why would you even want to hear his story except for comedy purposes? He's just gonna lie his ass off. ![[image loading]](http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/7664/abuseep0.jpg) | ||
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
On July 24 2008 06:56 Frits wrote: why would you even want to hear his story except for comedy purposes? I don't think there is any other reason :D | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On July 23 2008 18:45 SCC-Faust wrote: He must have used hacks recently though. http://fighterreplays.com/starcraft/replays/f5da12 That is a replay that I've played with him before, and I have a lot others that were not uploaded, but to be honest he was not that great. I'd say he would peak at D+. Maybe Combat-Ex neglected him and now he wants to climb the corporate ladder the same way naughty business men do to get his deserved attention. yes, hes not great at all, and its a shame he hacked and was spotted. what a shame. i hate losing to all-ins.  | ||
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Ryot
Canada316 Posts
Anyways, what this guy does on iccup unfortunately isn't his own business, and reflects very badly on SC2GG. The most important thing in pushing Starcraft popularity as an e-sport is integrity, and this guy just doesn't have it. I remember like 5 months ago seeing a few of his vids, and I used to this he was jesus. But really after I came to TL and started learning SC more I realized...wtf? This guy is mediocre at best. What's worse is that my friends who are trying to learn the game are getting shitty advice from his videos, despite me telling them how the advice is pretty bad and he's mostly noob bashing. "But nobody else makes FPVODs!" Wrong. Not only are there others out there, but they aren't arrogant assholes and they actually show good game knowledge. Here's a few: http://www.youtube.com/user/wazdawg http://www.youtube.com/user/coky18 (I think there's more but I forgot) Not to mention that if you don't need English commentary and still want FPVODs, there's a ton of actual progamer FPVODs: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=73377 tl;dr - combat is a bad reflection of any Starcraft community, and there are much better answers out there for FPVODs. | ||
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
Facts: Combat's ego is ridiculously huge He think's he's better than he is (B-) He's actually C-C+ rank He did make it to CAN B legit Myths: He's not just a random newbie (though most of you think he is) he's not ALL that bad, his attitude totally fucks up his portrayal, his boasting makes it worse EX/Combat aren't hackers (one person doesn't reflect the whole clan?) He's not a dodger, his computer is really having problems. He gladly plays people of greater skill, I've seen him do it. In addition: SC2GG shouldn't be liable for him abusing on ICCUP. His FPVODS are good for beginners (he does say some basic basic knowledge), and more importantly he's the only (constant) supply of FP Vods with commentary. Most of the advice he says isnt going to HINDER your gameplay, but its not anything ADVANCED. I dont understand what the big deal is, so he thinks hes a lot better than he is, there are million of people that are like this. Why cant we collectively ignore it, it's not like he's being BM towards ANY of us? | ||
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
[Who cares if it's voluntarily? His advice is fucking worthless, he doesn't know shit about the game. Second of all he isn't doing it to do us a service, he just likes to attention whore, he's done fuck all for the community. He isn't doing anything for the community because he's too fucking shitty to do anything for the community, he's just some d+ guy who abused to B- and is now giving terrible advice. Christ even I could own shit out of his pathetic protoss. Well, considering that thousands of people who watch his videos, D- n00bs or not, that's still thousands of more people watching starcraft. They're also thousands of people who are probably tuning into the GomTV Intel Classic every weekend and boosting ratings for Gretech - whom, I might add, is currently paying Nick Plott, a TL icon, a fair wage to live a fucking dream and cast Starcraft in English to everyone. Combat could be teaching them the antithesis of good Starcraft tactics and they could be the worst players on the face of the Earth, but they're still interested in Starcraft and the ones who care about getting better will - all by themselves, I guarantee you. In the meanwhile, he's still pumping more customers directly at Tasteless, so to say he's done fuck all is perhaps a bit harsh. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 24 2008 07:41 Koltz wrote: He's not a dodger, his computer is really having problems. He gladly plays people of greater skill, I've seen him do it. Man, I would gladly play a game against Jaedong or sAviOr, where's my ticket to CAN-B? Hell, even playing a few games against a C+ on iCCup would be sweet. Could he please make another account and try playing his way to C legitimately? This means, no MSNing people with "hey lose to me so I get C-", because if he has to do that, there's no way in hell he's really C/C+. Even people like NonY, who can reach the A ranks, don't ask people to lose to them in order to skip the easy ranks. | ||
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
On July 24 2008 06:19 Kurotoss wrote: 1. Everyone stop talking shit without knowing all the details. 2. I'm going to investigate this and make sure it's either true or not true. 3. If we do find out he has been abusing there will definitely be a consequence for Combat on both iCCup and SC2GG (I am the head over at SC2GG and a SA over at iCCup) and a formal apology on behalf of SC2GG to the community. 4. If he hasn't been abusing then I expect the same in return. EDIT: Hey Plexa, it's Edwin, would you mind closing this thread until I get the investigation finished? Thanks. The details about the abuse are right there on iCCup for everyone to see. I'm serious, go to his game list and click 'details'. That's really all you need to know to call abuse. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
Its not like he parades around saying IM B- IM BETTER THAN YOU publically Maybe he was gearing up to play gosus at the B- level before his computer broke Sigh, guess the community cant just move on So hard to ignore a child is it | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 24 2008 07:59 Koltz wrote: Its not like he parades around saying IM B- IM BETTER THAN YOU publically Have you watched his fucking FPVODs? I forced myself to watch half of one and he said repeatedly "Don't do this, it only works because I'm better than you." | ||
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
On July 24 2008 08:00 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Have you watched his fucking FPVODs? I forced myself to watch half of one and he said repeatedly "Don't do this, it only works because I'm better than you." do u have to watch his FPVODS? its voluntary. Does he come here and post them and say WATCH THEM IM GOSU? He's a role model to his peers (3000 subscribers) that LIKE his trademark bullshit. fuck it and move on | ||
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ZhenMiChan
Netherlands1181 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 24 2008 08:03 Koltz wrote: That doesn't change the fact that he pretty much "parades around saying IM B- IM BETTER THAN YOU publically"do u have to watch his FPVODS? its voluntary. Does he come here and post them and say WATCH THEM IM GOSU? fuck it and move on With a rake  | ||
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
On July 24 2008 08:07 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: That doesn't change the fact that he pretty much "parades around saying IM B- IM BETTER THAN YOU publically" With a rake His audience are newby SC players (possibly just beginners). I wouldnt advise them to 2 expo arb in PvT either. He's not saying hes better than "YOU" directly, hes saying that he is to the majority of his audience. And he doesnt say that he's B- when he says that so that negates the iccup motive | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
this guy is so good, we are tied 1 to 1 and hes some gosu terran but i can beat him im very sure i can beat him. okay i dont advice you guys to do this because corsair reaver is so hard and multitasking is so hard but i can do it because im good you know? o.0 | ||
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yoshtodd
United States418 Posts
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
LMAO ROFL | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
Yea, we give kwark shit all the time... Kwark your a n00b! see... | ||
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Nager
Germany32 Posts
I always found his VODs amusing - which was one of the reasons i kept watching them. His wacky commentating style, constantly losing track of his own thoughts and talking like on weed - while at the same time regardless of all the egomania providing quite some insight for a total noob who just got back to gaming after some 7 odd years and at the moment doesn't *dream* of playing on ICCUP at all. Being an adult and all that, it wasn't hard to put his ego problems in perspective. Being an adult one doesn't *need* to take everything literally. One is free *not* to make the effort of feeling offended about something quite irrelevant. One is aware that even though a person is being exposed as a cheater and should face the concequences of these actions, one doesn't know all the details and background, even if they would be of personal concern, and therefore should be careful with judging. Especially because the same person could still contribute something of value in other ways. I was going to say something about respect at this point, but then again, I should propably respect the fun you're having here as well. The fun of forming an elitist mob, joining in on a witch hunt and trying to outdo the others in terms of malice because it's the internet and you don't have to look the other person in the eye and see the reactions to what you're saying. Perhaps, if you'd know anything about the guy's background and his personal issues (which i don't), you'd be more careful with your judgements. I wonder what would happen in case the guy had some *really serious* issues and decided to do something to himself after reading shit (pardon) like this thread. It would propably be just as easy to look the other way because all of a sudden it wouldn't concern you *personally*. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
I do respect what you're trying to say, but I can't think of any extenuating circumstances where he'd be excused for cheating on a competitive server. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On July 24 2008 08:03 Koltz wrote: do u have to watch his FPVODS? its voluntary. Does he come here and post them and say WATCH THEM IM GOSU? He's a role model to his peers (3000 subscribers) that LIKE his trademark bullshit. fuck it and move on "He also told me his other Account names: Infinity-EX and Koltz. He used both of these accs to give Combat-EX freewins as u can see in his match list." | ||
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United States22883 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On July 24 2008 09:28 yoshtodd wrote: Was never a big fan of his videos but wow this looks really bad. I think the worst part is he's taking money through paypal, and posturing like he's a teacher when he cheats and stuff to artificially boost rank. Looking forward to hearing kuro's findings. he's taking money through Paypal? do you have proof? anyways, I really stopped caring about this guy and his "fans" but if he's actually making money off his BS, that's pretty messed up and he needs to be taken down | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On July 24 2008 14:59 blabber wrote: he's taking money through Paypal? do you have proof? anyways, I really stopped caring about this guy and his "fans" but if he's actually making money off his BS, that's pretty messed up and he needs to be taken down He spams his FPVODs with stuff like you should donate to his paypal and stuff. | ||
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kefkalives
Australia1272 Posts
fucking loser. | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
On July 24 2008 13:59 Nager wrote: boy maybe one day when we all grow up and become *adults* like *you*, we'll understandI'm a 70-apm-noob, I'm a TL- and SC2GG-Lurker. Combat was one of the ppl who got me interested in playing SC again. I always found his VODs amusing - which was one of the reasons i kept watching them. His wacky commentating style, constantly losing track of his own thoughts and talking like on weed - while at the same time regardless of all the egomania providing quite some insight for a total noob who just got back to gaming after some 7 odd years and at the moment doesn't *dream* of playing on ICCUP at all. Being an adult and all that, it wasn't hard to put his ego problems in perspective. Being an adult one doesn't *need* to take everything literally. One is free *not* to make the effort of feeling offended about something quite irrelevant. One is aware that even though a person is being exposed as a cheater and should face the concequences of these actions, one doesn't know all the details and background, even if they would be of personal concern, and therefore should be careful with judging. Especially because the same person could still contribute something of value in other ways. I was going to say something about respect at this point, but then again, I should propably respect the fun you're having here as well. The fun of forming an elitist mob, joining in on a witch hunt and trying to outdo the others in terms of malice because it's the internet and you don't have to look the other person in the eye and see the reactions to what you're saying. Perhaps, if you'd know anything about the guy's background and his personal issues (which i don't), you'd be more careful with your judgements. I wonder what would happen in case the guy had some *really serious* issues and decided to do something to himself after reading shit (pardon) like this thread. It would propably be just as easy to look the other way because all of a sudden it wouldn't concern you *personally*. until then, maybe you should *shut up* | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 24 2008 21:34 yubee wrote: boy maybe one day when we all grow up and become *adults* like *you*, we'll understand until then, maybe you should *shut up* agreed | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
No matter, it really just shows the pack of lies *someone* has placed to cover things like this up - and I'm still awaiting the report from the SC2GG admin (although it's quite obvious what's going on here). Secondly, on the KwarK allegations - I find his alibi for the early season iCCup to be acceptable - and on the other hand, the claims that he was 250-100 B- from playing D's are completely unfounded. I recently have played KwarK during my C rank and his B- rank (although I'm most likely C+ and him B+ [as claimed]) and it was early season - proving his ability to get a high rank even early into the season. He beat me, so I find it quite clear he is definitely capable of attaining said rank by himself without abusing, and there would be no reason for him to abuse at all. Lastly, he was very gm in the game and I feel any of the claims against him are unfounded. EDIT: lmao now look at him now - trying to cover it up now... well I guess he's actually beating C+'s... (or maybe they're in league with him too, or converted to his evil ways? ie. 'pls let me win i will give u shoutout') And even if he is playing legitly, he's still taking tons of free points from his other accounts Koltz and Infinity. On his last page alone he's gotten about 680 points from his Koltz and Infinity accounts. | ||
Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
On July 24 2008 13:59 Nager wrote: I'm a 70-apm-noob, I'm a TL- and SC2GG-Lurker. Combat was one of the ppl who got me interested in playing SC again. I always found his VODs amusing - which was one of the reasons i kept watching them. His wacky commentating style, constantly losing track of his own thoughts and talking like on weed - while at the same time regardless of all the egomania providing quite some insight for a total noob who just got back to gaming after some 7 odd years and at the moment doesn't *dream* of playing on ICCUP at all. Being an adult and all that, it wasn't hard to put his ego problems in perspective. Being an adult one doesn't *need* to take everything literally. One is free *not* to make the effort of feeling offended about something quite irrelevant. One is aware that even though a person is being exposed as a cheater and should face the concequences of these actions, one doesn't know all the details and background, even if they would be of personal concern, and therefore should be careful with judging. Especially because the same person could still contribute something of value in other ways. I was going to say something about respect at this point, but then again, I should propably respect the fun you're having here as well. The fun of forming an elitist mob, joining in on a witch hunt and trying to outdo the others in terms of malice because it's the internet and you don't have to look the other person in the eye and see the reactions to what you're saying. Perhaps, if you'd know anything about the guy's background and his personal issues (which i don't), you'd be more careful with your judgements. I wonder what would happen in case the guy had some *really serious* issues and decided to do something to himself after reading shit (pardon) like this thread. It would propably be just as easy to look the other way because all of a sudden it wouldn't concern you *personally*. Fuck (pardon) I fucking (pardon) hate it when idiots (pardon) do shit (pardon) like this. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 24 2008 23:38 Bockit wrote: Fuck (pardon) I fucking (pardon) hate it when idiots (pardon) do shit (pardon) like this. It's the adult thing to do. He's too mature to just swear like he doesn't care, what if combat-ex decides to kill himself? Have you considered that? I bet you haven't because you're not an *adult*. | ||
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
Honestly, i played as zerg vs him he wanted me to 4 pool him and see if he could defend with 1 gate tech, and PvP he wanted me to 2 gate rush him vs his 1 gate tech without zealots before core. Needless to say I got fucked by shield batteries both times. Dont accuse me of shit. I then played another 2 games vs him with my offrace (Zerg) and he won. ![[image loading]](http://i36.tinypic.com/358opjp.jpg) Proof enough? Furthermore, I'm 220+ APM terran, combat is like 150 apm Protoss. ![[image loading]](http://i35.tinypic.com/outiz6.jpg) And conan, I thought you knew me better than that. I was the one who supported ur FPVODs when everyone else (even on TL) flamed u all day. Well, me and ahzz at least  NOTE: I never "DEFENDED" combat in my posts, I'm just saying, why is it so tough to move on, there are millions of egocentric players in the world. He's just another one. PS. I dont know WHY he said he is me, but he is NOT | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
combat-ex messaged me on ICCUP and asked for a game. I said no. He told me he's pretty famous on youtube and I should reconsider. I still said no. He said he will contact me later when I feel like playing a famous dude. oh and energytraction is ganfei so him saying ANYTHING about what happens in a ICCUP thread is fucking HILARIOUS. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 25 2008 01:43 {88}iNcontroL wrote: roflfllflflf combat-ex messaged me on ICCUP and asked for a game. I said no. He told me he's pretty famous on youtube and I should reconsider. I still said no. He said he will contact me later when I feel like playing a famous dude. oh and energytraction is ganfei so him saying ANYTHING about what happens in a ICCUP thread is fucking HILARIOUS. Incontrol is more famous..fuck him up and show us replay please? :D | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
You're gonna have to explain that one to me: In a 5 minute game he produces 16 units and loses 9 while you produced 26 and lost 3 and HE won? That leaves him with 7 fucking units man. Funny how the one guy telling us not to care about this is somehow involved in this wintrading shit, BUSTED. | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On July 25 2008 01:43 {88}iNcontroL wrote: roflfllflflf combat-ex messaged me on ICCUP and asked for a game. I said no. He told me he's pretty famous on youtube and I should reconsider. I still said no. He said he will contact me later when I feel like playing a famous dude. oh and energytraction is ganfei so him saying ANYTHING about what happens in a ICCUP thread is fucking HILARIOUS. that's the right thing to do, dodge now and wait for the TL live recording staff to record your noob-bashing of him | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
koltz has no credibility either just trying to cover his ass by sayin drop it http://www.iccup.com/iccmatchlist/25456/1x1/ | ||
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Yaqoob
Canada3330 Posts
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
On July 25 2008 03:47 Yaqoob wrote: and did they thing they would never get caught abusing? You would think someone as "famous" as combat-ex who's always bragging about his b- would think that people whould check his match list -_- | ||
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iNcontroL
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
On July 25 2008 04:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote: koltz is no more haha good riddance | ||
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
On July 25 2008 01:20 Koltz wrote: im not combat, i assure you. Look at my game's im a TERRAN PLAYER, combat is a PROTOSS player. Honestly, i played as zerg vs him he wanted me to 4 pool him and see if he could defend with 1 gate tech, and PvP he wanted me to 2 gate rush him vs his 1 gate tech without zealots before core. Needless to say I got fucked by shield batteries both times. Dont accuse me of shit. I then played another 2 games vs him with my offrace (Zerg) and he won. Proof enough? Wait, so game 1 - you made 127 units, of which you lost 44, leaving you with a net of 83 units on the ground when you lost. This againt combat, who made 78 units, of which he lost 43, leaving him with 35 units. And he won? Game two he won with FOUR units left on the ground? When you had 48? Even if they were all drones - shit, that's four control groups of drones! What four units did this guy have that you couldn't dispatch with a control group for every unit he had left? I mean, 48 drones vs 4 archons, ok, maybe he'd have a fight, but he DIDN'T EVEN MINE ANY GAS! At best he could have four zealots. You couldn't take down a zero-economy (or near-zero economy) protoss with no more than 4 zealots using 48 units? This story defies credibility. | ||
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thedeadhaji
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G5
United States2899 Posts
On July 04 2008 06:46 GoShox wrote: Haha, Saya was telling me about how someone (SuperiorWolf?) asked him for a game and he dodged repeatedly. He also deletes the comments I leave him on his videos when I ask him why he plays D's. Edit: I joined their channel on East and saw this.. is this his new way of dodging? LOLOLOL I actually asked him to play an iccup game like 5-10 different times this season back when I was at his rank (C- or something) and he kept ignoring me and just kept spamming for games... only playing the players with 100-150 record rofl. | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
Hahaha CD KEY PROBLEMS?! lmao. Btw, does that bot auto post that there every couple minutes? Is Combat revered as a God there or something, and the clan is centered around him? -_-;; | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 25 2008 10:37 Superiorwolf wrote: LOL! Thank you for bringing that back up G5, I missed that XD!!! Hahaha CD KEY PROBLEMS?! lmao. Btw, does that bot auto post that there every couple minutes? Is Combat revered as a God there or something, and the clan is centered around him? -_-;; What the fuck man don't diss Combat leave him alone thousands of millions of people are brought into Starcraft because of him and it doesn't matter that he doesn't deserve to be B- because he doesn't brag about his rank in his games and he is really so so so so so much better than the people who are watching anyways and he's a great guy and I just wish you would leave Combat alone | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On July 25 2008 11:00 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: What the fuck man don't diss Combat leave him alone thousands of millions of people are brought into Starcraft because of him and it doesn't matter that he doesn't deserve to be B- because he doesn't brag about his rank in his games and he is really so so so so so much better than the people who are watching anyways and he's a great guy and I just wish you would leave Combat alone He is having CD-Key problems, did you hear? | ||
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dongfeng
731 Posts
gumrang razes 9 buildings to zero, kills 100 units while losing 50, has a total score 40K more and he LOSES? http://www.iccup.com/iccdetails/276267/ does he pay the other person to lose or sth... | ||
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
Earlier today there were like 6 of us in their channel on ex names. I did /stats Infinity-ex and the name wasn't even made on East, so naturally I took it (because of the whole iCCup thing). I sign on and enter the channel, and they all thought I was Combat. They still do, actually. <_< What to do? | ||
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jgad
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
But personally I think ICCup should have per-race ranking so you can't play your friend on your C account with your D- off race. :p Also, using agreed-upon builds in ladder games seems kinda scummy to me. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
i mean I played kwark when I was D and I was B- on 1v1 but we both played our main races and I promptly got ggowned and he got his 14ptsX2 hahaha. kwark many abuse! beating up on D playas ^_^ | ||
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
Also, using agreed-upon builds in ladder games seems kinda scummy to me. Well, it's entirely not the place for it. You don't go to a tournament to practice. Besides, agreed-upon builds make for a great cover if you are, indeed, throwing games or giving free wins - even if you're not. It's like leaving it up to the guy doing insider trading to be honest about it - even if you are being honest, you can't blame people for not believing you. | ||
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
My last few games i played P because I dont TvT, and when i used P vs T, i decided why not use P more often, and I became decent at it.. i think :oI played zerg from time to time because i love muta harass, esp on Lan ^^ And the games were real close.. And it's not like we didnt play main races, here's two games we both played main races: http://iccup.com/iccdetails/85107/ http://iccup.com/iccdetails/84903/ And i know it seems far fetched, that's why I could understand if he decided to continue the ban. Anyways enough of the justification... I'm done with this | ||
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
I mean, maybe I'm full of shit, but if it's a genuine game I'd love to see that replay - just for a laugh if nothing else. | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/Evilbunnys23/igotbanned.jpg) omg ~_~ | ||
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
On July 25 2008 11:52 jgad wrote: ^ tell me that's a joke + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8083/combat2qb1.jpg) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3321/combat1wa8.jpg) Edit: They seriously don't give up, they must worship the dude. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3195/combat3zd8.jpg) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9120/combat5ct7.jpg) And this one for the lolz (goats-ex is someone from here) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4954/combat4ib6.jpg) | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
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Ryot
Canada316 Posts
edit - cruise control. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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KwarK
United States42823 Posts
On July 25 2008 12:03 thedeadhaji wrote: yea... isnt that kind of stuff meant for melee mode / ums mode etc.. -_- i mean I played kwark when I was D and I was B- on 1v1 but we both played our main races and I promptly got ggowned and he got his 14ptsX2 hahaha. kwark many abuse! beating up on D playas ^_^ I actually got 5000 points 10 at a time vs Ds. Commitment to abuse yo. | ||
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
On July 25 2008 07:43 jgad wrote: Wait, so game 1 - you made 127 units, of which you lost 44, leaving you with a net of 83 units on the ground when you lost. This againt combat, who made 78 units, of which he lost 43, leaving him with 35 units. And he won? Game two he won with FOUR units left on the ground? When you had 48? Even if they were all drones - shit, that's four control groups of drones! What four units did this guy have that you couldn't dispatch with a control group for every unit he had left? I mean, 48 drones vs 4 archons, ok, maybe he'd have a fight, but he DIDN'T EVEN MINE ANY GAS! At best he could have four zealots. You couldn't take down a zero-economy (or near-zero economy) protoss with no more than 4 zealots using 48 units? This story defies credibility. LOL. Combat-Ex is a sc god, WORSHIP HIM! | ||
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kdog3683
United States916 Posts
Bro wanna 1v1> Hook a Bro up> I'm the best bro here. Must be something Combat started (Insert cookie-monster-picture-that-cloud-uses) | ||
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
Combat-Ex is no longer considered a staff member/contributor of SC2GG. We do not and never will condone/defend cheating or abuse no matter who it is that does it or how important they are. We have also removed the link to his youtube page from the site and will not be linking to any of his commentaries for the forseeable future. That being said, I see no reason to ban him entirely from posting on the forums. If he wishes to return to defend himself, then he should be allowed to do so. I think the fact that he is now completely discredited is punishment enough, and also the fact that few people are going to want to associate with him. So I don't see the point of a forum ban as well. That would be going too far. If it wasn't combat, and just some dude caught cheating, the same would hold true. http://www.sc2gg.com/forums/index.php?s=c5150fd2824cb5baf6febf11e2175e32&showtopic=3374&st=40&start=40 | ||
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
On July 26 2008 11:12 kdog3683 wrote: I went into their channel once. They all call each other Bro Bro wanna 1v1> Hook a Bro up> I'm the best bro here. Must be something Combat started (Insert cookie-monster-picture-that-cloud-uses) Toronto - spend a day there and you'll see where it comes from. | ||
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Straylight
Canada706 Posts
I am shamed. | ||
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
On July 26 2008 22:08 Straylight wrote: Oh god he is from Toronto? I am shamed. Well, he's from Canada - I don't *know* that he's from Toronto, but he sure as hell sounds like it. | ||
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Yaqoob
Canada3330 Posts
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Ryot
Canada316 Posts
On July 26 2008 11:12 kdog3683 wrote: I went into their channel once. They all call each other Bro Bro wanna 1v1> Hook a Bro up> I'm the best bro here. Must be something Combat started (Insert cookie-monster-picture-that-cloud-uses) | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
On July 26 2008 22:08 Straylight wrote: Oh god he is from Toronto? I am shamed. In a video I saw he said he was from Mississauga, which is pretty much Toronto, or close enough anyway. EDIT: I just went to one of his videos that there was a link to in the sc2gg.com thread, didn't realize that my volume was cranked way up, and with my 98 year old Grandmother sitting in the same room I had: "WUSSUP BITCHEZ!! THIS IS MOTHERFUCKING GAME blahblahblah" Fuck. | ||
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Play
Australia608 Posts
He said 90% of the stuff on TL (this thread) is bullshit, and said that Superiorwolf is lying in that he (combat) never dodged him and has beaten superiorwolf like 10 times with his offraces. he also said incontrol is lying about his comment in this thread. I didn't really listen to the rest, but he said that he only took 3 free wins in all his games, but its more like 20 or so. He admitted that his games vs Koltz were free wins, so Koltz is lying...? His computer also keeps blowing up. | ||
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Kletus
Canada580 Posts
Edit- Bloody semi-colon! Where do you think you're going?!?! | ||
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
I love how he still deletes my comments on YouTube. He cares WAY too much on what people think about him Sure, I'll give him the chance to defend himself (everyone, well mostly everyone, deserves that right), but there's not much he can do. And WTF at bringing up Testie hacking? Testie came clean and became a very good player and went to WCG. I don't see how that has ANYTHING to do with this situation. Edit: I'm still watching the video. I also noticed that I'm banned from their channel now. | ||
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Straylight
Canada706 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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chennis
Taiwan227 Posts
1) he admits to koltz giving him free wins 2) koltz played more than 3 games against him. (there's four already on the first page if you check his iccup record) 3) he says he only took 3 free wins i am sorry..what? edit : ah okay sorry my bad. | ||
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teh.pwnerer
Canada110 Posts
this combat-ex guy is the giant black dildo of the SC community. | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On July 27 2008 11:43 GoShox wrote: "3 free wins"? LOL I love how he still deletes my comments on YouTube. He cares WAY too much on what people think about him Sure, I'll give him the chance to defend himself (everyone, well mostly everyone, deserves that right), but there's not much he can do. And WTF at bringing up Testie hacking? Testie came clean and became a very good player and went to WCG. I don't see how that has ANYTHING to do with this situation. Edit: I'm still watching the video. I also noticed that I'm banned from their channel now. He's bringing up hacking because he's saying he's not like hacking or anything, Its not like he hacked.... Then he got on a tangent | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
themachine2 | July 26, 2008 Dude, I'm sure you haven't done anything bad. Just when you get famous, people get jealous. Thats why there are entire magazines poking fun at the Movie Stars. creeps74656 | July 26, 2008 hey man i didnt play starcraft for like 4 years then i saw ur videos on youtube and it got me back into it.....dont listen to the haters....people are just jeoulse of you greatness and that you have fans and they dont.....keep making fpvods ur awesome CoreEvilz | July 26, 2008 I guess there is a price to pay for being awesome, I'm sorry that you had to be exposed to it that early in life, but that only means that you're better than the norm , and too good for life to take its natural course with you , anyway, I just wanted to say, please please please, don't let these horrible, mentally deranged people get to you, we love you for good reason, not only because of your gaming skills (that's just a bonus), but because of your intuitive intelligence, great sense of humor and overall strong personality and confidence. C'est la vie... Edit: Actually I just watched the video... at first I felt kind of sorry... he doesn't sound high this time! 'please, please don't bm I put a lot of hard work into this' but then he's like 'i don't care what you haters have to say it's all bullshit i could care less'... so does he care or doesn't he care...? I guess it is true he puts lots of hard work but he failed to address a lot of other things and just dismissed them as 'bullshit' Edit: + Show Spoiler [Beat me 10 times with offrace? Huh?] + Bo3 hah hey, i know you u have a video of mine approx 2-3years back, (huh? Even if we started counting from now, I haven't been commentating that long. I started about 1.5 years ago... -_- This man is quite confused in the mind, which is why he must think 90% of everything is 'bs') u commentated on 1 of my games for youtube. it was the first video i ever had posted on utube atleast i think its u. if not i look like a complete dumbass well yea, im P, idk, maybe u rmbr it, it was a PvP on lost temple. anyways id be glad to do it, although i barely ever post when i lose, maybe we could do it and see how it turns out no offense but i heard ur not that ....up to my level? (lol ya i TOTALLY said I was better than you, amirite?) get wut i mean? (ye, ye) but il be happy to game u go to op emg. (dot at end) @ us.east il be there for this whole weekend, (besides when im afk/out) (and when your computer blows up, right?) msg me if u see me active, peace Original Message: > Hello Combat-EX, I am Superiorwolf. I am wondering if you would like to Bo3 me whilst we both record FPVods. I play Zerg if you don't know and I think it would be really cool if we could do this on the weekend. I don't have a preference which race you play since you seem proficient in all of them, whats your main race btw? Also, I am hoping that no matter who loses we should still upload it to Youtube so we can see both sides of the battle and how it unfolds. Please reply, I would love for this to happen Thanks | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
Kind of Edit : If an admin from Iccup can confirm the points and all of that shit,and confirm that he told him to "noob bash" to get his points/record back up to par. Then all he really needs to deal with is asking people for free wins,but honestly even then i dont know. Really though if the admin did that and his videos are to "help noobs" then he might not be all bad. God it hurt to say honesty. EDIT 3 ?!? : If an admin didnt do that he is a dirty fucking liar and needs to be banned from iccup and banned from all the sites and shit too. There thats better. Less Important Edit : FUCK YEAH MARINE | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 27 2008 12:59 arb wrote: Need to get an admin to confirm if he did that or not You heard it here first. | ||
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
On July 27 2008 11:58 chennis wrote: wait okay so: 1) he admits to koltz giving him free wins 2) koltz played more than 3 games against him. (there's four already on the first page if you check his iccup record) 3) he says he only took 3 free wins i am sorry..what? also the whole testie deal is totally random, no one said anything about hacking (just abuse) and he just throws that out there to distract us. my games are clear and legit he's talking about him vs infinity-ex and superiorwolf i remember u asking him for a game in channel, and both of u couldnt make, and he cant game with 2+ ppl cuz of his router, this was recent Not no CD Key as an excuse to dodge or whatever. Kind of Edit : If an admin from Iccup can confirm the points and all of that shit,and confirm that he told him to "noob bash" to get his points/record back up to par. Then all he really needs to deal with is asking people for free wins,but honestly even then i dont know. Really though if the admin did that and his videos are to "help noobs" then he might not be all bad. admin was iccup.jubbi | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
(and even if we both couldn't make, where did he come up with the idea that he beat me 10 times with offraces? Lies before more lies digging himself into a deeper hole!) | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
He is followed by a bunch of people who will slob his knob. They all are like "??? we dont care we lov u combat keep making vidyas!" on his youtube. I'm sure Combat-Ex could use hacks and still get away with having lots of supporters. | ||
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stk01001
United States786 Posts
Maybe this experience will humble him and he'll stop being such a smart ass, know-it-all, egomaniac in his videos. | ||
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Nasma
Australia7 Posts
Firstly, I haven't played on ICC cup yet as I'd get thrashed, I'd like to have some idea of what I'm doing before I jump in. As such I don't know about the abusing, but if he has, then he should get whatever penalty is appropriate in the ICC cup. I think that this is a separate issue from his youtube videos. While I don't doubt that there are many people much better than combat-ex, none of them post more than a few FPVods. His videos have proven very useful to me. While I don't doubt that there are errors in them, they are nowhere near as bad as the errors that I currently make. My playing has improved significantly since watching them and I find them much more helpful than replays or forum posts- even high quality ones- as I can see what I should be doing on the screen. To those who say- "But he's giving you the wrong advice", the way to counter this is to create your own, better, FPVods. Just knocking his doesn't help me (and other newbs) learn. On a side note- I find his commentary style enjoyable to listen to, if you don't, then just don't listen. If there are other prolific FPVod producers out there, it'd be great if someone could throw me a link. EDIT: Changed the phrasing of the last sentence | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On July 27 2008 18:58 Nasma wrote: To those who say- "But he's giving you the wrong advice", the way to counter this is to create your own, better, FPVods. Just knocking his doesn't help me (and other newbs) learn. This videos already exist! that's the point. You can see some fpvods here. You can get strategy info in the strategy section. You can even make a thread with replays and people will analyze your particular problem and tell you what to do in those situations. You already have progamers FPVods (the best players in the world showing you how they play). Why would you go to someone who's not that good and even asks for donations? If he enjoys it so much and he loves doing videos for people who are new to do the game why not do it for free? I'm sorry i don't buy what he says in his videos. | ||
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Ajb007
France1 Post
First of all im not a noob i play starcraft for the beginning. Im watching combat-ex for like one year now, and i doubt that the guys who are insulting him watched all his videos. - He is not asking for some money ! He only says that it takes him a lot of time to do this free, and if people want to they can... What is the problem with that ? - He is playing a lot with his off races (T & Z) so what's the point if he shows videos against C or D+ people. - people said he was always posting videos where he wins. What's the point ? He wants to increase noobs level, not to show them how he can loose !!! - He is not saying he is the best... I never heard him saying that . He only says : to use this strat you must be good, like 180-190 apm... And ? ? ? 190 apm without spamming is really not a noob level !!! And in a lot of videos he says that he would be pwned by a lot of players in his team... - I don't agree with everything he says, but who cares ? Noobs who still learn his builds don't need perfect advices because they simply don't understand the game like gosu. They only need practice and vids like combat's Click on spoiler please ! And read that again... You really think insulting a guy who is not even there for like 13 pages is "forum etiquette" ?? + Show Spoiler + 2. THOU SHALL OBSERVE FORUM ETIQUETTE Common sense, people, common sense. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (And if you happen to be into masochism, then you're at the wrong site, anyway.) This doesn't mean you can't get verbally medieval on someone's ass every once in a while. We don't run the place like a septic tank. But, flames are generally discouraged and we expect people to have a damn good reason for resorting to harsh language in the forums. This means gratuitous swearing is a no-no. Trolls will be burned, decapitated and banned. If you must flame, be smart about it. Creative flames will even get you respect - if the flame was warranted to begin with. Generally, you'll almost never go wrong by being nice, polite and mature. All just common sense, people. There are also a number of Rules of Posting in our forums. Take the time to observe and learn them. There are way too many to recite here, but the following are a few important examples: - Racist remarks will be shot down and you will be lynched. - Homophobic comments will get shoved way up your ass. - Sexist remarks of any kind whatsoever will be dealt with especially harshly. Yeah, we have female members - and we sure as hell would like to keep them! - DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN ALL CAPS IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SCREAMING LIKE A RAVING LUNATIC AND WE WILL BE FORCED TO TREAT YOU LIKE ONE AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! - Post your topics in the appropriate forum. We have separate forums for a reason. Use your head and post under the forum that's most relevant. - Don't be an attention whore and give away the results of games, sporting events, movie endings, etc. in the title of the thread/post. Also, if you're going to reveal stuff in the body of your post, then be decent enough to put a "spoiler" warning in advance. - Be very careful about resuscitating old threads. Sometimes it's ok, but sometimes it's not. - Don't know? Use the search function. It's better than Google and it works because whatever questions you may have, chances are we've already discussed it before ad nauseum. Did a search already and you still don't know? Ask politely! So i say only one thing : Let him do what he wants he is free !!! Stop insulting people like this. I respect Combat for the spare time he spent to post videos on youtube. And his matches are really not noob games !! Maybe not B+ or A games, but thats really enough for a noob to practice and to get better. The gosu players in this thread must be great noobs in life... People here are so rude... | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
In other news, it seems a little unfair to brutalise this kid quite as much as you have. I've seen a few of his vids, the recent ones are pretty decent as opposed to the god awful old ones, so you can see him improving. I got B with my protoss quite easily (in like a year ) a while back before I switched to Terran and I dont think its unrealistic that he managed it legit.Also, it is nice for the less skilled players in the community to have somebody constantly producing FPVOD's, even if just to give them a rough idea of whats required. It strikes me that this isn't as much about abuse on the iccup ladder as it is about a personal attack on Combat, who I assume to be a symbol for the hated SC2GG. His video response seemed to be pretty reasonable, seems pretty sorry about the handful of free wins he got, so I don't see why he should continue to be ridiculed by everyone on TL. Oh well, there's my thoughts on the subject broken down into short stilted sentences. | ||
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kefkalives
Australia1272 Posts
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Nasma
Australia7 Posts
On July 27 2008 20:02 kefkalives wrote: Combat fanboy club mobilise! some kids have been dissing our god! Try replying to some of the points in the last few posts | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
Although there is some flaming in it, there are a lot of provided points. I think some people just don't feel like repeating others when you could save everyone time by just browsing and reading the posts before yours that actually address some of the "points" you guys have. | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
Firstly, TL doesn't hate SC2GG, or even mind them. They bring a different side to the community. What we dislike are the thousands of clueless fanboys (be they from youtube or wherever) that demand that their commentator gets recognized. Secondly, we do have a problem with people pretending to be better than they are. Commentators carry authority simply by being commentators. By commentating on a game, you are telling the world how things are (which carries more weight than just your opinion), and if you say the wrong things we will bitch about it. Think about anything you know a lot about (movies for instance), and then think about how annoyed you get when some guy that knows nothing about it tells everyone how this thing works while you are sitting there, and you know that half the things he is saying is bullshit. It's very annoying. So that covers the SC2GG side. We don't have a problem with the site, or with their members, and we even asked one of their members to help commentate on the TSL, as well as had a long discussion about potentially getting another one or two for the TSL. As long as they know what they are talking about, we don't mind. About Combat personally, firstly, he does spam a lot. Secondly, yes he is free to do what he likes, but if what he does is not acceptable to us, we are free to give him shit like we want to. Thirdly, asking for donations based on the premise that he is giving you insightful commentaries, while he is in fact not, is deceitful. Remember when Radiohead released "In Rainbows" for free on the internet, but you could donate, do you think it would have been fine if another crappy band made those songs, and asked for donations. In a similar way, Combat is claiming to be a B player (Radiohead), and is asking for money based on the premise that he is giving you good advice (or solid music from Radiohead). It turns out that his advice isn't sound (the music sucks), and that he is not a B player (and Radiohead didn't make "In Rainbows"), which means its deceitful. About the role of mods, their role is to moderate the site and make sure that it doesn't get out of hand. When one of the communty's "figureheads" turn out to be a cheater, having people say bad things about him is not the "community getting out of hand" but rather the community speaking its mind in a justified sense. If the mods felt that the hate towards Combat was unwarranted, they would have closed the thread. You say that you don't think it's unrealistic that he managed it legitly, while there is a ton of evidence that he did not manage it legitly. There is no debate about whether he abused or not. He abused. Whether he could be B rank or not is up for debate, but it is very unlikely. I do agree with you that it is nice to have someone provide fpvods on a regular basis, especially aimed at the newer players. The problem is, we don't want that someone to be someone of questionable values (cheating on a competitive ladder), or someone that teaches them the wrong things. This just makes it more difficult for those people that do know what's going on to get rid of the bad habits (as Zatic points out). Perhaps TL can start making proper FPVods aimed at the beginner that are quality controlled... I can raise it with some of the other mods. While his video is fairly respectful, he continues to lie on his video about various things, and he is clearly just trying to save face. The fact of the matter is that Combat has shown himself to be an abuser, he constantly hypes himself up, he asks for donations based on deceitful information, and he continues lying to save face. Because of this, this thread has not been closed yet. Also, this is a blog, which is intended for personal opinions. While we do moderate blogs, we moderate them much less harshly than normal forum posts. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 27 2008 11:39 Kletus wrote: Edit- Bloody semi-colon! Where do you think you're going?!?! Just wanted to say I loved this line for some reason ahahhah | ||
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
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liger13
United States1060 Posts
On July 27 2008 21:26 Daigomi wrote: Perhaps TL can start making proper FPVods aimed at the beginner that are quality controlled... I can raise it with some of the other mods. yay I like were this is going... | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
On July 27 2008 20:02 kefkalives wrote: Combat fanboy club mobilise! They're unsieged, gogogog! 1a2a3a4a | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
On July 27 2008 21:26 Daigomi wrote: errrrFirstly, TL doesn't hate SC2GG | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
On July 28 2008 00:13 jgad wrote: What I still don't understand is why he's been sharing the Infinity-Ex account. That he completely admits and seems totally unapologetic about. ICCup accounts aren't exactly expensive - I'm sure everyone can easily afford their own (for the low, low price of absolutely fu**ing nothing). I see nothing but cheating and abusing coming out of people sharing accounts - there's no other reason for it. There's nothing wrong with shared accounts, it's just purely how you use it. Progamers use shared-accounts on iCCup, as well as some bigger teams (Light had a shared account I think), it's just the way you use it. But yeah I pretty much agree with you on everything else. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
HAHAHAHA looooooool. the only commentator i highly enjoy from sc2gg is chlorera. what an amazing guy. | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
the only commentator i highly enjoy from sc2gg is chlorera. what an amazing guy. imo VaulSC is also a really cool guy | ||
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sylonto
United States44 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
On July 27 2008 19:54 Piy wrote: I got B with my protoss quite easily (in like a year ) Prove it. Not that you have to, but I find a B player seeing nothing wrong with his analysis unbelievable. Mods are here to stop personal attacks. I see nothing wrong with people commenting on things Combat himself put in the public domain. | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
What kind of 'apology' references the viewer to other players and tries to compare himself to them? Combat / Testie aren't the same at all IMO. Testie was a Canada player that was caught hacking, then came clean and was still a good player. Combat's a Canada player (which is probably the only same thing between them) who abused a ladder to make himself look better than he really is, and asked for money repeatedly on YouTube from people who didn't realize what was going on. | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On July 27 2008 18:58 Nasma wrote: Hi guys, I'm a total newb, but just thought I'd post my thoughts. Firstly, I haven't played on ICC cup yet as I'd get thrashed, I'd like to have some idea of what I'm doing before I jump in. As such I don't know about the abusing, but if he has, then he should get whatever penalty is appropriate in the ICC cup. I think that this is a separate issue from his youtube videos. While I don't doubt that there are many people much better than combat-ex, none of them post more than a few FPVods. His videos have proven very useful to me. While I don't doubt that there are errors in them, they are nowhere near as bad as the errors that I currently make. My playing has improved significantly since watching them and I find them much more helpful than replays or forum posts- even high quality ones- as I can see what I should be doing on the screen. To those who say- "But he's giving you the wrong advice", the way to counter this is to create your own, better, FPVods. Just knocking his doesn't help me (and other newbs) learn. On a side note- I find his commentary style enjoyable to listen to, if you don't, then just don't listen. If there are other prolific FPVod producers out there, it'd be great if someone could throw me a link. EDIT: Changed the phrasing of the last sentence great, more power to you, just don't give him your money combat is like scientology, almost | ||
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humblegar
Norway883 Posts
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flag
United States228 Posts
All this may seem plausible but I have first hand experience with him and know how full of shit he really is, and I'm guessing so do other people which is thus why there are 13 pages here. Bascially I was hosting public b.net game and he joins, I already knew what an ego he had, so I said "are you good?" Just to see what he would say. To my amazement he was modest initially asking if I was good and then when I said yes, he said he was too and plays at his opponent's skill level. But then for some reason he started talking about how he is top 20 canada, and that he is semi-progamer getting paid to play. When I asked how he makes money he said blizzard and other companies pay him 20$ per day (which is a blatant lie, as he does indeed make money but it is from begging for donations on youtube). This wasn't the first time he has joined my games and started talking himself up even without me saying anything to get him started. I wish I had replay with text, but I did take one screen shot because I found it so humorous: ![[image loading]](http://golfscript.com/temp/combat.jpg) Combat says he makes his videos to help noobs, but the real reason is he makes them to feed his ego. This is the reason there are so many people that dislike him, people dislike liars and people dislike those whom are full of themselves. | ||
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sylonto
United States44 Posts
On July 28 2008 08:28 flag wrote: So I watched the "apology" on youtube, but it wasn't really an apology at all. To summarize he stated that he used free wins because someone had hacked his account and iccup admins fixed his account, but it wasn't quite how he wanted it or something so he thought a few free wins were deserved, and besides, "a few free wins out of 80 games don't really matter". He goes on to say he doesn't care if people insult his videos and then on some more to say please don't insult his videos. He also claims that mostly everything in this thread is bullshit, including incontrol's comments and that everyone here is just jealous which is why there are 13 pages of insults. His major theme is that his videos are for noobs and if you don't find them useful then don't watch them and mind your own business. All this may seem plausible but I have first hand experience with him and know how full of shit he really is, and I'm guessing so do other people which is thus why there are 13 pages here. Bascially I was hosting public b.net game and he joins, I already knew what an ego he had, so I said "are you good?" Just to see what he would say. To my amazement he was modest initially asking if I was good and then when I said yes, he said he was too and plays at his opponent's skill level. But then for some reason he started talking about how he is top 20 canada, and that he is semi-progamer getting paid to play. When I asked how he makes money he said blizzard and other companies pay him 20$ per day (which is a blatant lie, as he does indeed make money but it is from begging for donations on youtube). This wasn't the first time he has joined my games and started talking himself up even without me saying anything to get him started. I wish I had replay with text, but I did take one screen shot because I found it so humorous: Combat says he makes his videos to help noobs, but the real reason is he makes them to feed his ego. This is the reason there are so many people that dislike him, people dislike liars and people dislike those whom are full of themselves. As bad as comat is.....you have to be retarded to think he's trying to fool you by saying those things that looked like he was just playing around. Something along the lines of "make bc against protoss because it's good" and telling incontrol he's famous seems slightly funny because he knows inc is way more famous than him so THIS really is just nonsense all the other stuff about him is true though | ||
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kefkalives
Australia1272 Posts
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
On July 28 2008 09:59 kefkalives wrote: LOL | ||
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flag
United States228 Posts
On July 28 2008 09:56 sylonto wrote: As bad as comat is.....you have to be retarded to think he's trying to fool you by saying those things that looked like he was just playing around. Something along the lines of "make bc against protoss because it's good" and telling incontrol he's famous seems slightly funny because he knows inc is way more famous than him so THIS really is just nonsense all the other stuff about him is true though If it were anyone else you'd probably be right. Besides there was some truth to the stuff he said so I doubt he was joking, keep in mind he had no idea who I was, etc. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 28 2008 10:14 FragKrag wrote: I heard somebody saying Combat-EX was Can-B. I'm pretty sure he isn't. Apparently he got onto Can-B, making me want to move to Bahrain and start my own National team so I can cream him in a NationWar. | ||
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sylonto
United States44 Posts
On July 28 2008 10:12 flag wrote: If it were anyone else you'd probably be right. Besides there was some truth to the stuff he said so I doubt he was joking, keep in mind he had no idea who I was, etc. Him having no idea who you are is the reason why hes joking. He sees you and starts making things up that he knows aren't true so hes just playing around | ||
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sylonto
United States44 Posts
On July 28 2008 10:19 BottleAbuser wrote: Bleh, aside from all this bashing on Combat who appears to be a douche and not deserving of my time, I started playing on ICCUP over the weekend and went straight to D+ and on to C- pretty easily. ICCUP rankings seem much weaker than what I remember PGT to be. I'm afraid to interpret it the other way, that I got that much better, because the hope will probably be crushed when someone confirms that ICCUP is much weaker. ICcup only gets hard at C and up | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
On July 28 2008 10:22 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Apparently he got onto Can-B, making me want to move to Bahrain and start my own National team so I can cream him in a NationWar. Well, http://www.wgtour.com/country.php?id=249 thinks differently | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
On July 28 2008 10:29 sylonto wrote: Him having no idea who you are is the reason why hes joking. He sees you and starts making things up that he knows aren't true so hes just playing around I wouldn't call it "just playing around" if he says these things to someone he doesn't even know. I would call it boasting, bragging, or lying just to impress somebody who he just met. This is the thing that I have always disliked about his personality, he just seems like he does what he does to make people think that he is an impressive player. The fact that he has cheated and noob bashed to get a higher ranking just makes it even more pathetic. | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On July 28 2008 10:33 FragKrag wrote: Well, http://www.wgtour.com/country.php?id=249 thinks differently I heard he got into Can-B, and then got kicked off. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 28 2008 11:01 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I heard he got into Can-B, and then got kicked off. I like what I'm hearing! | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On July 28 2008 09:59 kefkalives wrote: the fact that it's Blood Bath makes me question if it's real or not | ||
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sylonto
United States44 Posts
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Conquest101
United States1395 Posts
On July 28 2008 12:25 sylonto wrote: Him getting b- by cheating is an ego boost for sure but him saying he's a semi pro is obviously joking around hes doing it for his own entertainment to see if the guy hes facing is dumb enough to believe it Hahaha, good one...... Oh wait, after reading your previous posts, you really believe that don't you? .... That's actually a lot funnier. Hahaha, good one. | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
People just smell blood and go berserk just for the sake of it. So this is some random person that made a lot of videos on youtube for low level players. It doesn't meat the standards of TL therefore it's bad for everyone.. So he did actually have 3 illegitimate wins on iccup? Who cares? So he had B- rank which wasn't representative. So? I don't get it. Seems to me TL people just attack everyone outside their community that does something semi-successful;. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
On July 28 2008 15:18 BlackStar wrote: This is an example of what is wrong with the TL community.] People just smell blood and go berserk just for the sake of it. So this is some random person that made a lot of videos on youtube for low level players. It doesn't meat the standards of TL therefore it's bad for everyone.. So he did actually have 3 illegitimate wins on iccup? Who cares? So he had B- rank which wasn't representative. So? I don't get it. Seems to me TL people just attack everyone outside their community that does something semi-successful;. Uh? More like 30+? And watch any of his videos and see how he talks to people -_- This is an example of what is wrong with ignorant people who don't spend enough time understanding the whole story before forming their opinion. | ||
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nyro
United States8 Posts
Here is a guy that has donated hundreds of hours to trying to help newbs the best way he knows how. He records videos of himself playing, and then tries to explain what his methodology is behind his movements. Is his methodology right? Are his strategies sound? Sometimes, no, but that doesn't diminish what he is trying to accomplish - helping people better understand Starcraft. That's it. If you understand Starcraft better than him, then don't watch. So what if he has a little fun with who plays him and has a mini tournament? These are newbs - they need to play a game anyway, and maybe that incentive will cause them to play a little harder? Playing Combat isnt important to you, but to them, it might be. Is that the end of the world for you? Even if he did cheat - that doesn't detract from his philanthropic deeds? I don't think so. If you have such amazing insight into the world of Starcraft, and if this guy is such a vermin to the players who play the game, how about you donate your time with fpvods and commentary? How about you donate countless and thankless hours to trying to better people's playing who you will never meet? Oh. You won't. This guy did though. But yea, fuck him. The only person that ends up losing in this entire situation is the newb that was actually trying to learn something and better their playing ability. | ||
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zatic
Zurich15342 Posts
I suggest you read what Daigomi wrote on the subject because it perfectly sums up everything: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=74543¤tpage=12#232 | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
The difference between Combat-Ex's fans and us is about... 3000 points on ICCup. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. | ||
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chennis
Taiwan227 Posts
See, we do UNDERSTAND that combat is TRYING to help newbs(as he said himself) get better and understand starcraft, and really, I personally appreciate all the hours he put into them, as it gets more people into starcraft. HOWEVER, that doesn't change the fact he DID abuse the ladder. Now, some of you might be wondering...okay BUT BUT BUT!!! Combat already clarified this in his videos!!!!! NO, NO HE DID NOT. Combat COMPLETELY failed to discuss the replay where he went around hiding pylons with probes and a shuttle. And knowing the internet, some of you will say "BUT HE'S JUST DOING IT FOR FUN". Yes because I am sure it is fun for his opponent to waste 8-9 minutes of his life going around the map to find pylons. From that, we can probably conclude that he's a really BM player. Now if we were to assume that what the german player said was true regarding combat's action (bribing people for free wins), we can safely assume that his skill level is lower than what it shows of iccup. This tricks people into thinking that they are getting fpvods and strategies from a higher level player. What does this lead to? more people donating(at least to some extend)!! So now you are wondering again, WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE THIS GERMAN GUY INSTEAD? Well, let me tell you, because he just sounds more believable than combat. In combat's "apology" videos, he kept on saying 90% of the accusations are BS. Since he failed to mention this replay and the accusation at all, I will assume that his response for this is that "It's BS" "BUT COMBAT, IT SHOWS YOU HIDING PYLONS" "its BS" "BUT BUT COMBAT, IT SHOWS YOU BMing THE OTHER GUY AND NOT LEAVING" "its BS" "BUT BUT BUT COMBAT, YOU CLEARLY HAD NO CHANCE OF WINNING AS YOU WERE LEFT WITH 1 PROBE" "its BS" So on one hand we have a guy that provides us with a replay to back his claims, and then we have combat who's only response is that "it's BS". Who's more believable? HMMM..... So you see...him abusing iccup probably does somewhat affect the amount of donations he's getting. which means he's doing it for personal gains, and I look down upon him for that. AS for those of you who kept on saying he's amazing because he provides FPVODS and commentaries, read through this topic. You'll find someone had posted/mentioned other alternative sources. Oh and yes I am aware that some people are just here to flame him because they dislike him etc. etc. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
On July 28 2008 13:57 Conquest101 wrote: Hahaha, good one...... Oh wait, after reading your previous posts, you really believe that don't you? .... That's actually a lot funnier. Hahaha, good one. This is an example of someone chiming in when they have no idea what they're talking about. If you aren't familiar with the situation, why are you adding your unfounded opinion? | ||
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foppa
Canada451 Posts
now for the rest of the people making fun of his skill level and his vods, you really shouldn't because if he doesnt help the noobs who will? he's a least good enough to teach people not to go forge first pvt. | ||
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foppa
Canada451 Posts
well technically his statement isn't false. pro short professional can be defined as such: A professional can be either a person in a profession (certain types of skilled work requiring formal training/education) or in sports (a sportsman/sportwoman doing sports for payment) by making any kind of money he could consider himself pro and well he's playing a game, thus he is a gamer | ||
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foppa
Canada451 Posts
this is a blog, so anyone is free to post what ever their opinion might be | ||
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stiga
United States377 Posts
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stiga
United States377 Posts
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
On July 28 2008 23:24 foppa wrote: @ chill this is a blog, so anyone is free to post what ever their opinion might be not you anymore banned ROFL 1-0 | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
"Why are you bashing combat he spends hundred of hours helping noobs" Wrong...First off he is not helping at all, he is giving terrible information, he completely lacks the necessary skill to be teaching, hes not actually doing it for his fans but to bost his pathetic ego. He even has the nerve to ask for donations...lol | ||
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Kletus
Canada580 Posts
On July 28 2008 23:24 foppa wrote: @ chill this is a blog, so anyone is free to post what ever their opinion might be On July 28 2008 23:12 foppa wrote: so hold-up... you are bashing combat for abusing his way through the iccup ladder. fine that's something he does deserve to be bashed about. now for the rest of the people making fun of his skill level and his vods, you really shouldn't because if he doesnt help the noobs who will? he's a least good enough to teach people not to go forge first pvt. + Show Spoiler + See what I did there? | ||
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
Wow, I'm disgusted by the people that still support him. He just spends his time calling BS on everything and refuses to talk about the 15 minute games where there are 9 units made by one side. It's pretty sad, really. | ||
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fathead
United States158 Posts
As far as I can tell there is no better alternative. Watching FPVODS of progamers are nice but are no where near as good as having the person playing walking you through what's going on. I did find a few other VODS on youtube buy ALL of the other accounts were either dead or didn't have commentary. So if Combat-Ex's advice isn't valid then please by all means get on YouTube and offer something better. Until then you will just be considered a jealous hater. The truth is that Combat has gotten a lot of new players into SC and old players back into SC. If the advice is bad then who cares people will learn else where. The point is that they are playing again. So again until someone offers something better. Shut up. In the mean time be happy that YT has revitalized SC. And again I can't stress this enough, get on YT and give it your own go. YT is the wave of the future, it's time to evolve. | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
Welcome to the internet, enjoy your stay. To be honest, I have watched every single one of combat-ex's videos, and I was in clan gG) (Ace[eMg]'s old clan which he was a leader of) which merged with -ex. So I pretty much have heard every word he's said in any given video, andd there are some conflicting things. One of them is that even I, a n00b, can spot bullshit in his strats (anyone seen the "using burrow zvp rapes" video? yeah...) Yet even though he seems like he's a D+/C- to some people here, in his "epic game series" which are the few games around game 100 where he plays really long games, he plays against a guy named "hazy-breeze" who is supposedly an A rank korean zerg on iccup. If someone can find out hazy's iccup aka or combat can tell people in a video I think that they'd doubt his skill level less, because I'm pretty sure that A ranked players don't go around giving out free wins, and even if he didn't try his hardest against combat an A ranked player can still smash lower level players easily only using mouse. | ||
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Kletus
Canada580 Posts
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Ryot
Canada316 Posts
On July 29 2008 01:56 fathead wrote: I have a question. Since you guys seem to think Combat-Ex is just a tool. Where would you recommend a noob to guy to learn how to get better. And don't just say play more often. Assume that they ARE playing a lot but still want some kind of help. A VLOG seems like the best method for this so where else if not Combat? You can watch progamer FPVODs and/or VODs. You can also use the strategy forum to post replays and get help on your game specifically. Both of what I listed are better options than listening to combat. And the two best methods of improving really are playing and then self-analysis. You don't need to listen to some iccup abuser on youtube who doesn't even give that good advice. | ||
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
There are plenty of places to find detailed strategy information if you don't mind reading what to do rather then seeing it. Finally, like Ryot said and Intothewow before him, if you are still having trouble you can post a replay in the strategy forum here and people will tell you what you specifically are doing wrong in the game. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
On July 29 2008 01:56 fathead wrote: I have a question. Since you guys seem to think Combat-Ex is just a tool. Where would you recommend a noob to go to learn how to get better. And don't just say play more often. Assume that they ARE playing a lot but still want some kind of help. A VOD seems like the best method for this so where else if not Combat? As far as I can tell there is no better alternative. Watching FPVODS of progamers are nice but are no where near as good as having the person playing walking you through what's going on. I did find a few other VODS on youtube buy ALL of the other accounts were either dead or didn't have commentary. So if Combat-Ex's advice isn't valid then please by all means get on YouTube and offer something better. Until then you will just be considered a jealous hater. The truth is that Combat has gotten a lot of new players into SC and old players back into SC. If the advice is bad then who cares people will learn else where. The point is that they are playing again. So again until someone offers something better. Shut up. In the mean time be happy that YT has revitalized SC. And again I can't stress this enough, get on YT and give it your own go. YT is the wave of the future, it's time to evolve. It's simply a difference of opinion. You guys think it's good that he's gotten people into StarCraft with lies and strategically weak analysis; We don't. There isn't much more to say and one opinion isn't more valid than the other. In order to criticize something, it isn't necessary to replace it yourself. I don't have to build a car to say the Honda Element looks like piece of shit, and I don't have to make commentaries to say Combat-Ex lies about his skill level, his statistics, and has no place making off-race strategic commentaries. | ||
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sylonto
United States44 Posts
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Centric
United States1989 Posts
On July 29 2008 03:13 Chill wrote: It's simply a difference of opinion. You guys think it's good that he's gotten people into StarCraft with lies and strategically weak analysis; We don't. There isn't much more to say and one opinion isn't more valid than the other. In order to criticize something, it isn't necessary to replace it yourself. I don't have to build a car to say the Honda Element looks like piece of shit, and I don't have to make commentaries to say Combat-Ex lies about his skill level, his statistics, and has no place makingoff-race strategic commentaries. Agreed. Besides, there are alternatives out there. Chill's FPVODs are definitely extremely helpful for any Zergs who want to get better, and NonY is out there making FPVODs for my Protoss brethren. From what I've seen of SuperiorWolf's videos, his FPVODs are way better than anything out there offered by Combat-EX. | ||
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fathead
United States158 Posts
On July 29 2008 03:13 Chill wrote: It's simply a difference of opinion. You guys think it's good that he's gotten people into StarCraft with lies and strategically weak analysis; We don't. There isn't much more to say and one opinion isn't more valid than the other. In order to criticize something, it isn't necessary to replace it yourself. I don't have to build a car to say the Honda Element looks like piece of shit, and I don't have to make commentaries to say Combat-Ex lies about his skill level, his statistics, and has no place makingoff-race strategic commentaries. That's fine. I think most people who watch his videos know he isn't a SC god (at least ones who actually play SC). In fact Combat has repeated said that he isn't great, only good when compared to noobs. He has said many times that his vid's are for noobs only. I personally don't care at all about Combat's skill. It's the idea FPVODS that I am defending more then anything. Right now Combat is the only source for english speaking FPVODs. Hopefully more players who have greater skill will make some also. When I asked for people to make FPVODS of there own I wasn't saying this to defend Combat per-say. I said it because I really would like to see more FPVODS. I would love for more high skilled players to hop on YT and show us how they approach the game. FPVODS are a great way to improve your SC play. Certainly not the only way or even the best way, but I think one day they will be as popular as watching progamer replays. Nothing is better then studying your own game but sometimes watching how someone else approaches SC is just what the doctor ordered. And right now Combat is the only real choice. | ||
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fathead
United States158 Posts
On July 29 2008 03:31 Centric wrote: Agreed. Besides, there are alternatives out there. Chill's FPVODs are definitely extremely helpful for any Zergs who want to get better, and NonY is out there making FPVODs for my Protoss brethren. From what I've seen of SuperiorWolf's videos, his FPVODs are way better than anything out there offered by Combat-EX. Can someone link me Chill FPVODS> I can't find him on YT. Thanks. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=63621 | ||
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Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
On July 29 2008 03:40 fathead wrote: Can someone link me Chill FPVODS> I can't find him on YT. Thanks. I use Google Video so I don't have to break the videos up. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
On July 29 2008 03:38 fathead wrote: That's fine. I think most people who watch his videos know he isn't a SC god (at least ones who actually play SC). In fact Combat has repeated said that he isn't great, only good when compared to noobs. He has said many times that his vid's are for noobs only. I personally don't care at all about Combat's skill. It's the idea FPVODS that I am defending more then anything. Right now Combat is the only source for english speaking FPVODs. Hopefully more players who have greater skill will make some also. When I asked for people to make FPVODS of there own I wasn't saying this to defend Combat per-say. I said it because I really would like to see more FPVODS. I would love for more high skilled players to hop on YT and show us how they approach the game. FPVODS are a great way to improve your SC play. Certainly not the only way or even the best way, but I think one day they will be as popular as watching progamer replays. Nothing is better then studying your own game but sometimes watching how someone else approaches SC is just what the doctor ordered. And right now Combat is the only real choice. Combat is really good at saying things directly, and then contradicting himself indirectly almost immediately after. Obviously I'm not a Combat-Ex quotation database, but I recall him mentioning he's top 20 in Canada (with no results), mentioning his East record and how it's really, really good (melee record in casual play is beyond meaningless), and repeatedly beating it into us how we can't pull off his maneuvers because he's really, really good. I think a lot of people in the Youtube community have fallen for it and really do think he's the second coming of Jesus in terms of StarCraft skill. It is unfortunate he's the only source of strategic FPVods. And believe me I've noticed, as you see I've listened to a lot of his commentaries even though I really dislike him, simply because I love the idea of strategic FPVods. | ||
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fathead
United States158 Posts
On July 29 2008 03:57 Chill wrote: Combat is really good at saying things directly, and then contradicting himself indirectly almost immediately after. Obviously I'm not a Combat-Ex quotation database, but I recall him mentioning he's top 20 in Canada (with no results), mentioning his East record and how it's really, really good (melee record in casual play is beyond meaningless), and repeatedly beating it into us how we can't pull off his maneuvers because he's really, really good. I think a lot of people in the Youtube community have fallen for it and really do think he's the second coming of Jesus in terms of StarCraft skill. It is unfortunate he's the only source of strategic FPVods. And believe me I've noticed, as you see I've listened to a lot of his commentaries even though I really dislike him, simply because I love the idea of strategic FPVods. Point taken. Also I don't want to give Combat too much credit, it was actually Klazart and diggity that got me back into SC after nearly a year and a half of not playing it. I do credit Combat however in getting me up to speed with what still worked and what didn't. I never thought he was great but atleast he could beat guys on B.Net a feat I couldn't seem to accomplish after going 4-22 when I first tried to play SC again. I no longer find use for Combat's videos. His flaws seems clear to me now but I don't think they hurt me. In the mean time I have become really excited about the potential of FPVODS. Even if they are of little help they are at the least entertaining. | ||
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fathead
United States158 Posts
On July 29 2008 03:51 Chill wrote: I use Google Video so I don't have to break the videos up. Thanks. Very useful and I can actually understand what he's saying which is a big plus also =). | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15342 Posts
On July 29 2008 01:56 fathead wrote: As far as I can tell there is no better alternative. Watching FPVODS of progamers are nice but are no where near as good as having the person playing walking you through what's going on. I did find a few other VODS on youtube buy ALL of the other accounts were either dead or didn't have commentary. . Well, don't look for it on youtube. Hang around here for a while and you will find more quality content than random Youtube people can ever offer. But for starters you might want to check this out: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E2C2D043BAFD00A1 | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On July 29 2008 02:08 anderoo wrote: he plays against a guy named "hazy-breeze" who is supposedly an A rank korean zerg on iccup. If someone can find out hazy's iccup aka or combat can tell people in a video I think that they'd doubt his skill level less, because I'm pretty sure that A ranked players don't go around giving out free wins, and even if he didn't try his hardest against combat an A ranked player can still smash lower level players easily only using mouse. you mean the HaZy.BreeZe that goes to his high school for 5 years? Silvera1234 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam lol u know hazy breeze? Its impossible to SKTerran that guy =[. 5 stars as always =] Wasif1112 (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply hazy goes to my skool, known him for like 5 years he's pretty good, but i don't think a or b level. I almost beat him in one of his 1v1 play/obs on east, but i only played once and that was a while ago when i sucked even more than usual. Maybe C/C+, but A? lololololololol | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On July 29 2008 04:36 arb wrote: FPVOD's are always entertaining to watch,but some of combats information is really pretty..useless and its kind of sad. Would love to see someone that is good at a certain raceterrancoughcough make some FPVOD's and upload. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58284 | ||
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
Edit: link http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=72552 | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
Woah i never knew about that thread, thanks! | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
OMG how could I have not found this? Thanx a lot. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On July 29 2008 01:56 fathead wrote: I have a question. Since you guys seem to think Combat-Ex is just a tool. Where would you recommend a noob to go to learn how to get better. And don't just say play more often. Assume that they ARE playing a lot but still want some kind of help. A VOD seems like the best method for this so where else if not Combat? As far as I can tell there is no better alternative. Watching FPVODS of progamers are nice but are no where near as good as having the person playing walking you through what's going on. I did find a few other VODS on youtube buy ALL of the other accounts were either dead or didn't have commentary. So if Combat-Ex's advice isn't valid then please by all means get on YouTube and offer something better. Until then you will just be considered a jealous hater. The truth is that Combat has gotten a lot of new players into SC and old players back into SC. If the advice is bad then who cares people will learn else where. The point is that they are playing again. So again until someone offers something better. Shut up. In the mean time be happy that YT has revitalized SC. And again I can't stress this enough, get on YT and give it your own go. YT is the wave of the future, it's time to evolve. You seriously can't improve playing by yourself? Play, watch replays, fix what you do wrong. Not that hard. | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On July 29 2008 07:52 clazziquai wrote: You seriously can't improve playing by yourself? Play, watch replays, fix what you do wrong. Not that hard. calm down though, seriously, he helps the noobs (d-). | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On July 29 2008 04:36 arb wrote: FPVOD's are always entertaining to watch,but some of combats information is really pretty..useless and its kind of sad. Would love to see someone that is good at a certain raceterrancoughcough make some FPVOD's and upload. that would encourage other people to play terran, which would just be cruel | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + If I lose, it's only because you're a cheesing zerg or faggot toss | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 29 2008 15:47 IdrA wrote: that would encourage other people to play terran, which would just be cruel TvT..*Shudder* But surely a few terrans would be better than the hordes of protoss that are playing now eh? Otherwise yeah that would be cruel | ||
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sylonto
United States44 Posts
On July 29 2008 15:49 BottleAbuser wrote: Is that a poke at terran users? Bo3? I SHOW YOU MANLINESS OF MAN. + Show Spoiler + If I lose, it's only because you're a cheesing zerg or faggot toss Its cruel to have someone face DTs and dark swarms | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
On July 29 2008 19:33 arb wrote: TvT..*Shudder* But surely a few terrans would be better than the hordes of protoss that are playing now eh? Otherwise yeah that would be cruel tvt is awesome! (I'm like the only terran who doesn't think that) and i think idra is trying to save low level terrans from the nightmarish hell that is the d levels of iccup. as a lower terran it is so fucking difficult to handle all of the cheese that is thrown at you, proxy 2 gates, 5 pools, etc. most of the people in tvt cheese too :[ | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
Yeah, he probably does help D- players, but he is an abuser and sounds really annoying, and many people have listed alternatives. He's also pretty arrogant. Although one time I think he said "I'm not that good, this is for noobs," the majority of the time he talks about his sick timing and unreal micro. I've never heard LastShadow IRL but I imagine he'd sound like this. | ||
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
I'd understand all the angst if he looked like bragging sucker who always tells how he's B- since obviously his current account isn't really accurate. You may call him cheater, I'd say he looks like a guy playing his friends. Wow, what a crime. Anyway, considering I've watched about 5 of his vods (months ago) I never heard him say his own iccup rank. I remember actually thinking of asking him about it since I thought he should have mentioned it already. Now I don't think this sounds too much of a selfboosting actually. I know I wouldn't play friends in iccup with my real name since the system at low ranks allows everybody to raise to something like C or C+ by just playing 1:1 against friends 5 games a day but I don't see what's the problem since it hasn't looked like he's bragging about his rank. I somewhat agree on the point about the "click these ads as appreciation so I get money" videos, the idea of asking such is rather self-deprecating and inconsiderate. As he has said, his videos aren't meant for C+ people to become "as good as him" but newbies of D- to D+ caliber mainly. I'm sure many of them actually benefit from these videos. Many people enjoy self-commentated FPVODs instead of learning from replays about buildorders and such, and I don't think there's many people to compete for the viewers on this category. | ||
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Nasma
Australia7 Posts
On July 29 2008 04:44 SonuvBob wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58284 I'll repeat the others and say thanks. | ||
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BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
On July 30 2008 16:10 Divinek wrote: Why does no one understand that bad advice is worse than no advice? I have lived for 15 wasted years and in my stupidity, I think that it's not just the bad advice - the huge ego, the ladder abuse, the asking for donations, etc. Please forgive me if you disagree. Also, Master, I think there's already plenty of good (insightful) advice that's out there - lots of FPVods and if anyone just used the search button they would find the thread with all the FPVods. Lots of other resources are available too, your servant believes. Strategy guides are very nice on this site - people are always willing to help out and if you have questions they will always answer. There are Korean FPVods, Nony FPVods, and many more, Chill's commentated FPVods and a lot - secondly lots of replays and so much more 'advice'. I hope you can agree with my ideas, reverend sir. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On July 29 2008 15:41 Raithed wrote: calm down though, seriously, he helps the noobs (d-). i wonder how many % of TL players who are C- and higher have started SC by watching someone else's FPVods? | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 30 2008 11:25 Ouga wrote: I never heard him say his own iccup rank. I remember actually thinking of asking him about it since I thought he should have mentioned it already. Now I don't think this sounds too much of a selfboosting actually. I know I wouldn't play friends in iccup with my real name since the system at low ranks allows everybody to raise to something like C or C+ by just playing 1:1 against friends 5 games a day but I don't see what's the problem since it hasn't looked like he's bragging about his rank. I somewhat agree on the point about the "click these ads as appreciation so I get money" videos, the idea of asking such is rather self-deprecating and inconsiderate. As he has said, his videos aren't meant for C+ people to become "as good as him" but newbies of D- to D+ caliber mainly. I'm sure many of them actually benefit from these videos. Many people enjoy self-commentated FPVODs instead of learning from replays about buildorders and such, and I don't think there's many people to compete for the viewers on this category. Ive heard him say in alot of videos that "im probably B/B- iccup right now. I watched about 5 or 6 and heard him mention it in most of them.. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On July 30 2008 11:25 Ouga wrote: You may call him cheater, I'd say he looks like a guy playing his friends. Wow, what a crime. When it's on a ladder and some of those friends are imaginary then yes, that's abuse. :p | ||
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
[QUOTE]Ive heard him say in alot of videos that "im probably B/B- iccup right now. I watched about 5 or 6 and heard him mention it in most of them.. [/QUOTE] Actually majority of his viewers probably don't even know what iccup is, or if rank B is higher than rank D As said I only viewed 5ish of his vids so don't know if he's suddenly started telling it every game but I doubt it.[QUOTE]On July 31 2008 01:31 SonuvBob wrote: [QUOTE]On July 30 2008 11:25 Ouga wrote: You may call him cheater, I'd say he looks like a guy playing his friends. Wow, what a crime.[/QUOTE] When it's on a ladder and some of those friends are imaginary then yes, that's abuse. :p[/QUOTE] Way to go taking one line of one paragraph and making it totally out of context. The point being is that as long as he's not all the time yelling how good he is compared to specified players/overall scene what does it really matter if someone is B-? If I want to play games in iccup with a friend who's C- which I am too now, only reason why I wouldn't just pick one on one and play x5 motw against him could be that someone in TL might cry a river about it. Seriously who cares as long as you aren't anywhere near the top in worldwide or foreign rankings? It's a fun league without real rewards after all. Does it all come down to people envying the undeserved applauses from newbies at combat and therefor bashing him? No one would have cared enough to make a topic about this if he wasn't fpvod poster or "famous" in some circles. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
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ser23
Netherlands1 Post
[QUOTE]On July 30 2008 20:06 arb wrote: [QUOTE]Ive heard him say in alot of videos that "im probably B/B- iccup right now. I watched about 5 or 6 and heard him mention it in most of them.. [/QUOTE] Actually majority of his viewers probably don't even know what iccup is, or if rank B is higher than rank D As said I only viewed 5ish of his vids so don't know if he's suddenly started telling it every game but I doubt it.i think u are drunk and really dumb to say something like that, i used to watch his videos but just for entertainment, but not anymore for what just happen (thanks TL for comin up with this topic). i think everyone knows what iccup is, so get over urself who do u think u are to say no one knows that B is higher than D. I dont live in europe or the us and i know how they grade and i think everyone with a brain (obviously u dont use yours) knows how this works. U are insultin the people who watch this videos by sayin they dont know B is better than D. U are an ignorant. | ||
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
On July 31 2008 04:04 ser23 wrote: i think u are drunk and really dumb to say something like that, i used to watch his videos but just for entertainment, but not anymore for what just happen (thanks TL for comin up with this topic). i think everyone knows what iccup is, so get over urself who do u think u are to say no one knows that B is higher than D. I dont live in europe or the us and i know how they grade and i think everyone with a brain (obviously u dont use yours) knows how this works. U are insultin the people who watch this videos by sayin they dont know B is better than D. U are an ignorant. You're nothing but a fool. I'd love to save my time responding to such heinous bshit, but that was totally uncalled for. Lesson in netetiquette: stands for a *wink* meaning you shouldn't take every word LITERALLY. But after reading your post I already feel dumb for having tried writing in a form that you lack common understanding of.Keep in mind it's me defending a _stranger_ to me here, while most of the posters seem to just love having a pointless flamewar and get someone to go in flames at burning pile. Too bad you personally are attempting to make me part of it. | ||
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
On July 31 2008 03:13 SonuvBob wrote: People aren't calling him a cheater because he played with his friends. They're calling him a cheater because he took freewins. I don't see sign of that either. Admins probably removed those games, but I understood he said himself he took 3 freewins. Obviously it doesn't matter whether you take freewins or just play -3rank lowers to gain +25 per win: on a long run you're destined to go up in ranks. I never said that account's games looked all that legit in terms of granting him recognition: several games against same guys in a row constantly (=what I referred as friends) or just lowrankbashing. I understand people considering this pathetic for doing that since so do I, but it's not cheating, nor does it automatically mean his "real" rank is something like D+ as many have stated. His ways just look lame, and if he brags about that account's B- on this season it's of course fcked up, but people have gone just offtopic and bashing him for absolutely anything: even for RL voice. Come on? | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On July 31 2008 04:59 Ouga wrote: I don't see sign of that either. Admins probably removed those games, but I understood he said himself he took 3 freewins. Obviously it doesn't matter whether you take freewins or just play -3rank lowers to gain +25 per win: on a long run you're destined to go up in ranks. I never said that account's games looked all that legit in terms of granting him recognition: several games against same guys in a row constantly (=what I referred as friends) or just lowrankbashing. I understand people considering this pathetic for doing that since so do I, but it's not cheating, nor does it automatically mean his "real" rank is something like D+ as many have stated. His ways just look lame, and if he brags about that account's B- on this season it's of course fcked up, but people have gone just offtopic and bashing him for absolutely anything: even for RL voice. Come on? Let me put it this way: Let's have two players, one named Xetabm-OC and the other Combat-EX. Combat-EX takes some free wins and plays mostly players hugely weaker than he is. He has a 250-20 record, and is B- ranked. Xetabm-OC always plays people higher ranks than he is, and loses a lot. However, he tries very hard and practices a lot, and beats some higher ranked players so he has a 60-60 record that is also B-. Combat-EX asks for donations b/c he is a "gosu." Xetabm-OC keeps practicing, ignorant of any capitalist gains. Who would you say is the better player? And surely there is some jealousy here, but I would say a lot of the really strong players who have struggled through Koreans at ICCup are very mad that he "cheated" to make himself look good. If Combat-Ex routinely beats D/d- but loses to c-/c and dodges games when people challenge him that are c/c+, he's probably d+, not the b- he claims. | ||
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
Keep in mind it's me defending a _stranger_ to me here So you randomly decide to take the side of a proven abuser? That just shows how fucking retarded you are. I don't see sign of that either. Admins probably removed those games, but I understood he said himself he took 3 freewins. Obviously it doesn't matter whether you take freewins or just play -3rank lowers to gain +25 per win: on a long run you're destined to go up in ranks. I never said that account's games looked all that legit in terms of granting him recognition: several games against same guys in a row constantly (=what I referred as friends) or just lowrankbashing. I understand people considering this pathetic for doing that since so do I, but it's not cheating, nor does it automatically mean his "real" rank is something like D+ as many have stated. His ways just look lame, and if he brags about that account's B- on this season it's of course fcked up, but people have gone just offtopic and bashing him for absolutely anything: even for RL voice. Come on? First of all he took more then 3 wins from accounts koltz and infinity-ex even if he wont admit it Secondly do you even understand what a ladder is? Its not against the rules to play low ranks but it is abuse and to brag about something that hasnt been achieved legitimentaly is bullshit. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 31 2008 04:50 Ouga wrote: Lesson in netetiquette: stands for a *wink* meaning you shouldn't take every word LITERALLY. But after reading your post I already feel dumb for having tried writing in a form that you lack common understanding of.You're an idiot Take that literally though, I mean it. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10828 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
- Combat comes back with explanations for some of the accusations. - TL chastizes Combat and doesn't buy it. - SC2GG and the Youtube community largely welcome him back with open arms. - SC2GG's official stance for now is to dissociate with Combat; whether that sticks we'll have to see (I highly doubt it). Nothing's going to chance. People's minds are largely made up and this thread is uesless. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
bye combat | ||
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