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SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
August 06 2003 07:02 GMT
#41
lol logic
objectifying somebody doesn't mean fucking and vice versa!
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 07:04 GMT
#42
Surg, I know that. But objectification of women would be using them as an object, naturally for pleasurable activity.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 07:05 GMT
#43
On August 06 2003 15:41 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 15:31 BigBalls wrote:


who cares about morals man. The purpose of being alive is to have fun. We only live one life, everyones driving purpose behind EVERY ACTION is fun. why work a shitty job that pays well? So one can have fun in retirement.

Every action has an intention of ending with some type of fun activity. Who cares if its morally wrong to have sex. If he enjoys it, go for it (as long as its within legal limits). If something he is doing is bringing harm to others, then its a bad action.

If his definition of sex is rape, then surely it is not good. But if he isnt kobe bryant, and he thinks sex is not ass raping a girl in a hotel room, then hes seeking pleasure out of it, and his partner is getting pleasure out of it. It is a good thing.


and getting sexual experience early is also a good thing. once you get to college you dont want to be a little 2 pump chump hornball that turns off all the girls he meets.


Did you just read the last sentence, or the whole paragraph? Hitler enjoyed masturbating while a prostitute kicked him. He also enjoyed killing Jews. The basis of your argument is legality, but why? You just said who cares about morals. Legislature is a form of instilling and regulating proper moral conduct.

As for caring about morality, cultures which started with moral affluence, rose to great things, but ultimately fell apart when they became morally lax. Just look at ancient Rome; they started with a strong military and strong virtues. Paederasty wasn't a cornerstone of their lifestyles (as it was of the Greeks, who never held on to much for long), they had strong religious virtues. But as their coffers grew, their moral backbone bent. Infanticde, homosexuality, pedophilia in general, all became commonplace and were never fully eradicated from the Empire, particularly in the Eastern (post Constantine, naturally). Just an observation (I did a report on this a few years ago)


EDIT: Forgot to quote
EDIT: P.S., not every action is driven by fun. Man saves child from a burning house! Doesn't sound like a fun-based activity, to me.


just because hitler likes A and likes B doesnt mean all people who like A like B. Its logically incorrect to jump from a single case to a general case and compare his psychotic nature with anyone else. When I said who cares about morals, I was referring to you bringing up violence as an example to sex. Who cares if he has sex with this girl, as long as everything he does is within legal limits.

Hes not dealing with something along those lines. hes dealing with intercourse. is that legal? yes, the age of consent is 16. is it morally correct? its not morally wrong, it may not be the best thing to do, but there isnt anything wrong with it (im not a believer in religion)

as for the morality of a society causing its downfall, you mentioned 3 things, infanticide, homosexuality, pedophilia. 2 of these are illegal. one is a legal but a psychological problem. and none of these can be attributed to directly causing the downfall of an empire. just because a correlation exists, there doesnt have to be a cause-effect.


as for the situation regarding a man saving a childs life, I would write a proof showing how it can lead to fun, but I dont have time. someone wants me to copy shit for them and mail it out, and help them take stuff out of their car, so ill do it later
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 07:10 GMT
#44
Balls, you could connect saving a childs life to eating a french fry if you wanted to, but it wouldn't really be pertinent. If you want more examples from the Roman Empire: leniency, sloth, greed, slavery, adultery and all manner of extramarital affairs, and religious laxity.

Infanticide is the same principle as abortion; aside from the fact that there were about 30 minutes difference between the execution (of the action) of one and the other.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
August 06 2003 07:12 GMT
#45
you got it all wrong, buddy. That pleasurable activity you are talking about is by nature deeply desired by both sexes. You sound like every time i wanna fuck my girlfriend, it's an objectification. cmon, the guy was even talking about "connection"
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 07:13 GMT
#46
SurG, ever stop to think that maybe every time you wnat to fuck your girlfriend, it is objectification?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 07:15 GMT
#47
Anyways, I've got to get to work, and this argument is starting to boil down to semantics (bleh). So, fun argument, and Perli... DO THE RIGHT THING! -_-
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Macrophage
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany730 Posts
August 06 2003 07:18 GMT
#48
it's funny, the usa are well known both for their "liberal" youth culture and their conservative hardcore fanatics
SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
August 06 2003 07:18 GMT
#49
On August 06 2003 16:15 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Anyways, I've got to get to work, and this argument is starting to boil down to semantics (bleh). So, fun argument, and Perli... DO THE RIGHT THING! -_-

even if it is, she likes it. That's the point. Ever stop to think that sometimes people want to be treated like objects in some ways?
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
August 06 2003 07:26 GMT
#50
NO! :D
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
August 06 2003 07:29 GMT
#51
too bad :p
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
August 06 2003 07:32 GMT
#52
Being with someone isn't meant to be thought out or thought logically, not in most cases, especially when you're young. Don't try to use your head about that stuff, just go out and do what feels right.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 07:44 GMT
#53
On August 06 2003 16:10 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Balls, you could connect saving a childs life to eating a french fry if you wanted to, but it wouldn't really be pertinent. If you want more examples from the Roman Empire: leniency, sloth, greed, slavery, adultery and all manner of extramarital affairs, and religious laxity.

Infanticide is the same principle as abortion; aside from the fact that there were about 30 minutes difference between the execution (of the action) of one and the other.


and of course all of those made them get taken over by the germanic tribes. their lack of morals made them inept at war
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Funktion
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia156 Posts
August 06 2003 07:44 GMT
#54
If she is fun etc then just go for it. You don't even know for sure she is a slut. Usually its just all hear say bullshit anyway. There is nothing wrong with being a slut anyway. If guys can bang hell chicks then I dont see a reason why it can't work in reverse.
Right or wrong doesn't come into it anyway. Do you both want to get it on? THEN GO FOR IT.

For all you know she could of posted on some other forum "Is it wrong to hook up with some pissed cunt just for sex?".

But I am religious, and that is the basis for my arguments.

Didn't see that coming a mile away.
Wuzzle Woozle?
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 07:48:43
August 06 2003 07:46 GMT
#55
ah, the argument seems done... GJ to both sides, althou comparing a 16 yr old boy to a 3000 old Roman Empire... kinda far-fetched

btw, best post was BigBalls' second
hahah still laughin about that one


{edit} 2nd, thought it was first
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 07:47 GMT
#56
and besides, a lack of morals in society is a complete non sequitur (sp?) to this subject and doesnt really involve sex for a 16 year old. the laws are meant to uphold our society. Just because some morals lead to laws, doesnt mean all morally correct things should be abided by. This is not even saying sex is morally wrong. I feel no guilt when I have sex. If sex WERE morally wrong, there is no law that prohibits adults of the correct age from having consensual sex.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 06 2003 07:50 GMT
#57
All guys are sluts, why can't girls be?
why so 진지해?
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
August 06 2003 07:52 GMT
#58
haha, thats so true Reckrul
althou im not sure about logic here,
he seems to be an impotent
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 07:54 GMT
#59
On August 06 2003 16:50 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
All guys are sluts, why can't girls be?


cause double standards are the best thing since sliced bread
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
August 06 2003 08:03 GMT
#60
if this kate girl truly is a "slut", then it would be in your best interest to stay away. for one, as u get to know her better(and most likely develop strong feelings towards her), then u will begin to learn of her past. although now it may seem like thats not much of an issue emotionally for you, if u care about her, it will become a serious issue, and one that u most likely will not be able to handle(assuming becuase of your age u dont have much experiance with this). i assure you, u will not be able to not ask about her reputation. although things may seem fun and exiting at first, in the long run you will get burned more than what it is worth. your have the rest of your life to have sex....
as a young man being naturally more emotionally stable than a young woman, i think its partially your responsibility to be protective of a girl who most likely has got alot of problems. sex is good, but it is not worth being part of a regrettable past and alot of emotional turmoil. if u really "like" her, u should take care of her, by looking out for her emotionally, not by looking out for you or her physically.
i suspect if u get into a relationship with such a girl, in the end u will both just be hurt. you by knowing that you will never have anything from her that other people havnt had, and her by looking for attention in all the wrong places. if u stay away, u will just have a good friend, and in the back of your head u will always know u did the right thing
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
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