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On August 06 2003 15:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Stupid, stupid, and uh... stupid. I know I'm in the extreme minority on this forum, being a conservative, but for god's sake... can't you people keep it in your pants? Think with your head, not with your cock. Not with BigBalls cock, either. By "take advantage of it", he really means, "take advantage of her." If you're going to have cheap, meaningless sex, find a prostitute. That way you're only inflicting idiocy on yourself.
cant agree more, but thats just me,
To the original post: if u dont really like her and its purely physical go for it, enjoy yourself. if its more of emotional invovlement dont, ull regret it later
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[ /QUOTE]Rekrul wrote:
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On August 07 2003 17:21 iGgs wrote:
what is the term applied when someone believes there is a god but has no religion
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The closest to that is Agnostic.
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it's not even close, that was just my point, but finally, who cares, it's freepost-time anyway...
otherwise, what a nice oxymoron that "brillance and ignorance often goes hand in hand" :D you may have wanted to mention 'culture' instead of 'brillance', what i take for 'intelligence' there...
but finally, who cares, it's freepost-time anyway...2 the come-back !
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MURICA15980 Posts
On August 08 2003 07:36 doCrepuS wrote:
what's so ignorant about saying obsolete is wrong? I know what he's saying, and I think its fucking stupid. I presented my reasons already, and I fail to see how my attitude will be detrimental to arguing my point. jesus kjs
sigh
nevermind
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guys ,forget girls
Play BW
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Ignorant ppl like Rekrul and doCrepus should stay out of any discussion t_T
I disagree with obsolete's vision btw..
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On August 08 2003 05:18 Kobayashi wrote:
Obsolete you don't objectify a woman in order to have pleasure, you have pleasure with her, or if you prefer, you objectify her and she objectifies you. As long as it's consensual and you and the girl are both aware of the consequences of your actions I really don't understand why you shouldn't do it. You play bw,why? because it's fun,pure and simple, you are not objectifying the other player in a 1v1,you are not using him,why try to make sex look like such a complicated thing,it isn't! you can of course bring std's into discussion but then again...everything in your life involves risk you can never be completly safe as you can't deny yourself everything in order to maintain this safety.
"What you are suggesting is that we, as humans, should give in to our baser instincts" give in? the question you have to ask yourself is why not, why should you fight it?
You just equated sex, the most intimate physical action any two people can perform, to BW. Somehow, I mark quite a distinction between physical intimacy and a computer game. This is just an example of how desensitized the world has become.
Honestly, your post sickens me. Why not resist baser instincts? Well if I didn't, I'd be bashing your head in with a 9-iron right about now. Go to the Zoo, look at the monkeys and the baboons. The ability to overcome our instincts is what keeps us above them.
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But why restrict yourself for the sake of risking yourself? To prove you are better than monkeys? Surely at times I agree that one must restrict the inner animalistic instincts that we humans have due to moral/social/ethical or other reasons. But if nothings holding either of the parties back then, go for it.
Pretty much if she bending over...give it to her. But dont force her to bend over.
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Mr Ed, do you think Euthanasia is proper?
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On August 08 2003 16:19 MrEd wrote:
But why restrict yourself for the sake of risking yourself? To prove you are better than monkeys? Surely at times I agree that one must restrict the inner animalistic instincts that we humans have due to moral/social/ethical or other reasons. But if nothings holding either of the parties back then, go for it.
Pretty much if she bending over...give it to her. But dont force her to bend over.
since you bring in so much irrelevant outside shit obso i might as well do the same.
freud basically said the more civilized we get, the more unhappy we become. People have basic urges which civilization forces us to repress. The further we get towards being totally civilized (perfect morals) the more unhappy we will be.
By holding back the things we want to do, we build up guilt. People feel guilty for things they think. Example: I have sex with your sister. You are angry, want to kill me. You then realize murder is wrong, and feel guilty for thinking such an awful thing. This guilt creates unhappiness. If there were no laws preventing murder, you would shoot me twice in the head and think nothing of it.
As ive said, the driving force behind things in life is happiness. By restricting ourselves we make ourselves more unhappy, thus detracting from what we are trying to achieve. By upholding strong morals, all one is doing is living in fear of a god who he believes will strike down upon him for living without inhibition.
all this really boils down to is a religion argument, and then into subdivisions of how strict the religion is etc. And since everyone should be agnostic (because there is no proof of the existence or non existence of god), then the argument could go on ad infinitum.
So lets just call it quits.
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First of all, Freud was a bit borderline. Many reports of him having severe sexual perversion, though I don't know too much so, I wont say too much.
Unhappiness from self-reservation only comes so long as you're still focusing on the thing you've restricted yourself from. Good can come from everything, if we let it. To use your example, I could hold on to the thought of, "Oh man, I really want to kill that sonofabitch, but murder is wrong... grr!" Or, the sensible thing, "Well I can't kill him, that'd be wrong, so maybe he'll turn his life around. And maybe it'll wake up my sister."
Furthermore, you really showed your ignorance of a religious point of view, which I won't get into for my aforementioned reasons. As for God's existence, there isn't what you call "proof", though there is an awful lot of logic. If you're interested I have a link to these arguments, but I won't bring them into the forum.
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being agnostic is the admittal that you can neither prove nor disprove the existence of god. this is the only completely true religion. everything else is a belief.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
Agnostic all the way baby.
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Norway28642 Posts
I consider myself atheist simply because if there is a god, I want to die so I can join satan's minions in hell.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Obsolete, I'm going to agree with rekrul here,you're just another idiot I won't argue with you anymore.
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GUYS STFU
this post became absolutely worthless about 14 pages ago, and now it's just an oppurtunity for everyone to show their own stupidity
I changed my mind, this post was worthless from the moment it was started
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you're right, close this thread its getting gay (or already is)
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