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GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-01-21 13:41:59
August 06 2003 05:51 GMT
#1
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 05:54 GMT
#2
youre 16, go out with her, have lots of sex.

its better than youll do with anyone else

if she fools around with someone else, well, youre 16, youll recover

but take advantage of it
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 06:03 GMT
#3
Stupid, stupid, and uh... stupid. I know I'm in the extreme minority on this forum, being a conservative, but for god's sake... can't you people keep it in your pants? Think with your head, not with your cock. Not with BigBalls cock, either. By "take advantage of it", he really means, "take advantage of her." If you're going to have cheap, meaningless sex, find a prostitute. That way you're only inflicting idiocy on yourself.
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GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 06:05 GMT
#4
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28642 Posts
August 06 2003 06:06 GMT
#5
yeah obsolete thats a stupid attitude.

go for it, you're gonna regret it if you don't. ^_^
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Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
August 06 2003 06:10 GMT
#6
damn man, your friend's house is named kate? I mean is this thread some kinda tryout to get your self respect or wtf? I mean there are forums for this kinda shit really :D You'll be getting spank from child molesting god dammit, though you're a kid yourself lol ;D

Sorry. i don't wanna start a flame war or anything.

Heya, ObsoleteLogic, you got a point there but prostitute's cost money lol
River me timbers.
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 06:10 GMT
#7
On August 06 2003 15:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Stupid, stupid, and uh... stupid. I know I'm in the extreme minority on this forum, being a conservative, but for god's sake... can't you people keep it in your pants? Think with your head, not with your cock. Not with BigBalls cock, either. By "take advantage of it", he really means, "take advantage of her." If you're going to have cheap, meaningless sex, find a prostitute. That way you're only inflicting idiocy on yourself.


not take advantage of her, take advantage of the situation

heres a kidwhois16yearsold that probably doesnt have significant amounts of sexual experience. what he needs is a girl to basically make a man out of him. (sorryfor thistypingbullshit thiskeyboard fucking sucksandthespacebar and theL key fucking jam)

he sayshelikesthegirl, so go outwith her, havesex with her andhave agood time. you dontwant to regret thislater, take advantageofopportunities thatarise(nopun intended)

OMFG THISFUCKING SPACEBAR ISDRIVINGMETHROUGH THEROOF

butyeah,if youre looking for adeep platonic meaningful relationship, then youre gay.

sex is an integral part to love, and you seem to like this girl. go out with her, fuck her, have fun with her, youll mature both sexually and in a relationship sense, i see no reason to not go out with her besides a possible STD (which i highly doubt considering your age)
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
August 06 2003 06:12 GMT
#8
cant you decide for yourself if its ok to like someone? i mean you like her or not :S.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 06:12 GMT
#9
Perli, I was much in the same situation a little over a year ago. And yeah, its tempting as hell, but you should do the right thing - as you said, you only live once, and I think you should really clarify your reasons for wanting to be with her. If you have no desire for a long term relationship, then you're basically just looking to bang her - and as you said, she isn't exactly known for her fidelity, so I can't see any other reason to get with her. In other words, you're looking to use her for your own personal gratification. Real relationships aren't based on that.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 06:16 GMT
#10
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 06:17 GMT
#11
On August 06 2003 15:10 BigBalls wrote:
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On August 06 2003 15:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Stupid, stupid, and uh... stupid. I know I'm in the extreme minority on this forum, being a conservative, but for god's sake... can't you people keep it in your pants? Think with your head, not with your cock. Not with BigBalls cock, either. By "take advantage of it", he really means, "take advantage of her." If you're going to have cheap, meaningless sex, find a prostitute. That way you're only inflicting idiocy on yourself.


not take advantage of her, take advantage of the situation



Clever twist of words, same meaning.



heres a kidwhois16yearsold that probably doesnt have significant amounts of sexual experience. what he needs is a girl to basically make a man out of him. (sorryfor thistypingbullshit thiskeyboard fucking sucksandthespacebar and theL key fucking jam)

he sayshelikesthegirl, so go outwith her, havesex with her andhave agood time. you dontwant to regret thislater, take advantageofopportunities thatarise(nopun intended)

OMFG THISFUCKING SPACEBAR ISDRIVINGMETHROUGH THEROOF



Get a flat-head screwdriver, pry it out, clean it, and put it back in.



butyeah,if youre looking for adeep platonic meaningful relationship, then youre gay.



I take offense to that. Sorry I see women as more than giant cock-mittens.



sex is an integral part to love, and you seem to like this girl. go out with her, fuck her, have fun with her, youll mature both sexually and in a relationship sense, i see no reason to not go out with her besides a possible STD (which i highly doubt considering your age)


Grow in a relationship sense? What, a sense of hollow, purely hedonistic relations? Life isn't all fun and games.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 06:18 GMT
#12
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 06:18 GMT
#13
On August 06 2003 15:16 GoSexyPerli wrote:
Big Balls = genious


So the real reason for this post wasn't to ask honest advice from people, but to have your own personal opinion justified. I see.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 06:20 GMT
#14
i had a "real relationship" with a girl that ended about a year ago

we went out for a long time, probably about 18 months. she wasnt a slut, but im about 90% sure she cheated on me (the day after we broke up she had a new boyfriend) i went off to college 6 hours from home, you can kind of put 2 and 2 together.

i really hate her guts to this day but Im glad I went out with her. I got lots more sexual experience than I had, and I got a good sense of relationships.

i really dont see many negative aspects to you going out with her, she could break your heart, but the benefits outweigh the consequences (and if she does break your heart, you learn a lot from a relationship of that type)
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 06:20 GMT
#15
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SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
August 06 2003 06:22 GMT
#16
"being friendly with guys a lot"? WTF is that? I didn't hear you complaining of her "being friendly" with you. Damn, people are fast to judge others instead of judging themselves. I have only two things to say for you:
- be man, geez, why whould you bring it to nerds forum? make your own decision
- use condoms please
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 06:25 GMT
#17
On August 06 2003 15:17 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 15:10 BigBalls wrote:
On August 06 2003 15:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Stupid, stupid, and uh... stupid. I know I'm in the extreme minority on this forum, being a conservative, but for god's sake... can't you people keep it in your pants? Think with your head, not with your cock. Not with BigBalls cock, either. By "take advantage of it", he really means, "take advantage of her." If you're going to have cheap, meaningless sex, find a prostitute. That way you're only inflicting idiocy on yourself.


not take advantage of her, take advantage of the situation



Clever twist of words, same meaning.

Show nested quote +


heres a kidwhois16yearsold that probably doesnt have significant amounts of sexual experience. what he needs is a girl to basically make a man out of him. (sorryfor thistypingbullshit thiskeyboard fucking sucksandthespacebar and theL key fucking jam)

he sayshelikesthegirl, so go outwith her, havesex with her andhave agood time. you dontwant to regret thislater, take advantageofopportunities thatarise(nopun intended)

OMFG THISFUCKING SPACEBAR ISDRIVINGMETHROUGH THEROOF



Get a flat-head screwdriver, pry it out, clean it, and put it back in.

Show nested quote +


butyeah,if youre looking for adeep platonic meaningful relationship, then youre gay.



I take offense to that. Sorry I see women as more than giant cock-mittens.

Show nested quote +


sex is an integral part to love, and you seem to like this girl. go out with her, fuck her, have fun with her, youll mature both sexually and in a relationship sense, i see no reason to not go out with her besides a possible STD (which i highly doubt considering your age)


Grow in a relationship sense? What, a sense of hollow, purely hedonistic relations? Life isn't all fun and games.


as for the cock mittens comment: hes physically attracted to this girl. He should not be looking for a platonic relationship with this girl. I have tons of girl friends who I would never do anything with. Would I if the chance arose? Maybe a couple, but most I wouldnt. (should have clarified that not all platonic relationships are bad)

Im sure he has other girl friends, good girl friends. This is a girl he likes and is attracted to. Why would he want something platonic.


As for the relationship sense, he clearly likes this girl and has feelings for her (he mentioned more than just looks) Hes 16 man, he probably hasnt had too many relationships where he really cared about a girl. It would definitely help him grow in a relationship sense

finally, sex is most definitely integral to relationships. Why dont I just go out with some of my best friends who arent that hot? Who cares right, i mean sex isnt important.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 06:26 GMT
#18
On August 06 2003 15:20 BigBalls wrote:
i had a "real relationship" with a girl that ended about a year ago

we went out for a long time, probably about 18 months. she wasnt a slut, but im about 90% sure she cheated on me (the day after we broke up she had a new boyfriend) i went off to college 6 hours from home, you can kind of put 2 and 2 together.

i really hate her guts to this day but Im glad I went out with her. I got lots more sexual experience than I had, and I got a good sense of relationships.

i really dont see many negative aspects to you going out with her, she could break your heart, but the benefits outweigh the consequences (and if she does break your heart, you learn a lot from a relationship of that type)


That sucks dude, and I know real relationships can bring a lot of heartbreak, but also that good can come out of that pain. But you can either seek the good after the bad in life, or you can start going for the good right away. You're making sexual experience out to inherently be good, because it is pleasurable. But that doesn't make it so; perfectly normal people have admitted to enjoy violence, that release of aggression, but its results are not purely beneficial, regardless of circumstances. Sometimes it is necessary, but only because of unfortunate situations. Anyways, my point is that just because you enjoy something, doesn't mean its good.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 06:27 GMT
#19
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 06:31 GMT
#20
On August 06 2003 15:26 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 15:20 BigBalls wrote:
i had a "real relationship" with a girl that ended about a year ago

we went out for a long time, probably about 18 months. she wasnt a slut, but im about 90% sure she cheated on me (the day after we broke up she had a new boyfriend) i went off to college 6 hours from home, you can kind of put 2 and 2 together.

i really hate her guts to this day but Im glad I went out with her. I got lots more sexual experience than I had, and I got a good sense of relationships.

i really dont see many negative aspects to you going out with her, she could break your heart, but the benefits outweigh the consequences (and if she does break your heart, you learn a lot from a relationship of that type)


That sucks dude, and I know real relationships can bring a lot of heartbreak, but also that good can come out of that pain. But you can either seek the good after the bad in life, or you can start going for the good right away. You're making sexual experience out to inherently be good, because it is pleasurable. But that doesn't make it so; perfectly normal people have admitted to enjoy violence, that release of aggression, but its results are not purely beneficial, regardless of circumstances. Sometimes it is necessary, but only because of unfortunate situations. Anyways, my point is that just because you enjoy something, doesn't mean its good.



who cares about morals man. The purpose of being alive is to have fun. We only live one life, everyones driving purpose behind EVERY ACTION is fun. why work a shitty job that pays well? So one can have fun in retirement.

Every action has an intention of ending with some type of fun activity. Who cares if its morally wrong to have sex. If he enjoys it, go for it (as long as its within legal limits). If something he is doing is bringing harm to others, then its a bad action.

If his definition of sex is rape, then surely it is not good. But if he isnt kobe bryant, and he thinks sex is not ass raping a girl in a hotel room, then hes seeking pleasure out of it, and his partner is getting pleasure out of it. It is a good thing.


and getting sexual experience early is also a good thing. once you get to college you dont want to be a little 2 pump chump hornball that turns off all the girls he meets.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
choader
Profile Joined June 2003
United States487 Posts
August 06 2003 06:32 GMT
#21
dude, I have sort of a similar situation, except in my case I'm afraid I'm helplessly in love with the girl in question. She LOVES sex, but doesn't whore around. She just gives a lot to her boyfriend. _IF_ you feel that you have a connection, that there is more between you than sexual energy, then go with her and never look back. Have lots of sex. Love life. If, however, you want only the sexual relationship, DO NOT take advantage of her. No matter what girl it is, it always hurts to be treated like an object.

It is the most beautiful thing in the world to be in love with someone who is in love with you. Anyone who disagrees has never experienced this.
Failure by design.
choader
Profile Joined June 2003
United States487 Posts
August 06 2003 06:33 GMT
#22
on a less serious note, how did drinking heavily make you LESS horney?
Failure by design.
draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 06:37:13
August 06 2003 06:35 GMT
#23
The way I see it, very few 16 year olds are lucky enough to be in a situation like yours. I'd take full advantage of it. Your future girlfriends will all appreciate the long hours of time and effort you exerted towards learning to perform better when it counts. It's not an issue of using the girl or abusing the situation. I'm pretty sure she will enjoy it as much as you do, meaning it's a win/win situation.

If this girl has a lot of experience in this field (as you implied in your post), use it to your advantage also. The more experience somebody has had, the more comfortable they are with experimenting with different things. In the end, it makes you more well rounded sexually if you can feel comfortable in 3-4 different positions instead of just military position.

I don't recall you mentioning what your current level of experience is, so just be warned that once you have your first time you become a fucking nympho. As long as you're prepared to accept that at 16, man up and hit that shit.
t.t
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 06:35 GMT
#24
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GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 06:37:12
August 06 2003 06:36 GMT
#25
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 06:38 GMT
#26
im hopelessly in love with a girl who has a douchebag boyfriend. she doesnt put out, but oh well.

she broke up with him this summer (they dont ive close to each other)and i got a letter from her (A FUCKING LETTER IN THE MAIL BABY).

im trying to get her to come visit me before she goes back to school (she will have a full week at school with him before i get there FUCK). shes a good friend of mine and you know, if all i can get with her is one sexual encounter, I would take it. I dont want to regret anything I do, basically the same reason Im going to LA for wcg finals.

I dont want to look back and say, ya know, what if i did go, what could have happened
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 06:45:02
August 06 2003 06:41 GMT
#27
On August 06 2003 15:31 BigBalls wrote:


who cares about morals man. The purpose of being alive is to have fun. We only live one life, everyones driving purpose behind EVERY ACTION is fun. why work a shitty job that pays well? So one can have fun in retirement.

Every action has an intention of ending with some type of fun activity. Who cares if its morally wrong to have sex. If he enjoys it, go for it (as long as its within legal limits). If something he is doing is bringing harm to others, then its a bad action.

If his definition of sex is rape, then surely it is not good. But if he isnt kobe bryant, and he thinks sex is not ass raping a girl in a hotel room, then hes seeking pleasure out of it, and his partner is getting pleasure out of it. It is a good thing.


and getting sexual experience early is also a good thing. once you get to college you dont want to be a little 2 pump chump hornball that turns off all the girls he meets.


Did you just read the last sentence, or the whole paragraph? Hitler enjoyed masturbating while a prostitute kicked him. He also enjoyed killing Jews. The basis of your argument is legality, but why? You just said who cares about morals. Legislature is a form of instilling and regulating proper moral conduct.

As for caring about morality, cultures which started with moral affluence, rose to great things, but ultimately fell apart when they became morally lax. Just look at ancient Rome; they started with a strong military and strong virtues. Paederasty wasn't a cornerstone of their lifestyles (as it was of the Greeks, who never held on to much for long), they had strong religious virtues. But as their coffers grew, their moral backbone bent. Infanticde, homosexuality, pedophilia in general, all became commonplace and were never fully eradicated from the Empire, particularly in the Eastern (post Constantine, naturally). Just an observation (I did a report on this a few years ago)


EDIT: Forgot to quote
EDIT: P.S., not every action is driven by fun. Man saves child from a burning house! Doesn't sound like a fun-based activity, to me.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
August 06 2003 06:47 GMT
#28
the thing is that most of the people here lack experience in these matters (mostly because of age). Anyways, in personal relations the most important thing is to make your own decisions without looking back over your shoulder and listening what people have to say about it, because unless they really know you, it's gonna be mostly bullshit anyway. If you really need some advice on this matter, get some real life friends who you respect to have a say. Post here will look more like posing to a lot of people.
Btw, getting wasted when going out with girls is VERY stupid thing to do. Getting girl wasted is another thing though However, it's immoral.
draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
August 06 2003 06:50 GMT
#29
On August 06 2003 15:36 GoSexyPerli wrote:
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On August 06 2003 15:35 Draeger wrote:
The way I see it, very few 16 year olds are lucky enough to be in a situation like yours. I'd take full advantage of it. Your future girlfriends will all appreciate the long hours of time and effort you exerted towards learning to perform better when it counts. It's not an issue of using the girl or abusing the situation. I'm pretty sure she will enjoy it as much as you do, meaning it's a win/win situation.

If this girl has a lot of experience in this field (as you implied in your post), use it to your advantage also. The more experience somebody has had, the more comfortable they are with experimenting with different things. In the end, it makes you more well rounded sexually if you can feel comfortable in 3-4 different positions instead of just military position.

I don't recall you mentioning what your current level of experience is, so just be warned that once you have your first time, you become a fucking nympho. As long as you're prepared to accept that at 16, man up and hit that shit.


basically everything but sex.


Well in that case, if you happen to give a lackluster performance she won't know any better
t.t
Kontra[MDK]
Profile Joined October 2002
Portugal1013 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 06:54:19
August 06 2003 06:53 GMT
#30
Fuck her brains out


and btw.. Dont drink and drive! Smoke n' Flyyyyyyyyyy
Somebody call for an exterminator?
bASesinAtOR
Profile Joined November 2002
Bhutan1295 Posts
August 06 2003 06:54 GMT
#31
dont put it in her butt unless she tells u its ok. u dont wanna end up like kobe
sike
DeMoNiC
Profile Joined May 2003
United States294 Posts
August 06 2003 06:54 GMT
#32
Be smart man... dont do it.. (sorry i just dont want anyone to hit any girls... because i cant T_T)
How many Dragonball Z Characters does it take to screw a light bulb? one, but it takes 5 episodes.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 06:55 GMT
#33
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13004 Posts
August 06 2003 06:56 GMT
#34
It just sex ppl! Its not like the moon landing or anything. Grab ur dicks, peel off the shrink wrapping and fken use them! (guess the quote )

Big Balls is the only one speaking the truth around here! Not every relationship has to be about candlelight dinner and long romantic walks on the beach! Enjoy life - and give her one for me .

On a side note, if she is indeed a slut, dont expect much of a future. I once went out with a chick like this and their "attention" wavers very quickly. These types of chix use and abuse guys to get what they want. Unfortunantly i learned this the hard way, but as BigBalls says, im all the wiser and more experienced for it. Take the relationship for what its worth. U'll know without us having to tell u whether its more than just a booty call.

Sluts LOVE TEH COCK. Always remember this and listen to Mr BigBalls ur General Forum resident Casanova!

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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28642 Posts
August 06 2003 06:57 GMT
#35
"the right thing" obsoletelogic would be fucking the lady who wants to be fucked.

not denying her of the same pleasure you also want.
its not a fucking rape we are talking about here yo.
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 06:59 GMT
#36
I feel very outnumbered. Heh. I expected this, though...

Anyways, I can spout all the logical arguments and historical fact I like, but it comes down to being your decision. You can either objectify her (just because she's getting something out of it doesn't mean you aren't treating her like an object), or you can do the right thing, and look for someone else, who isn't so focused on a sexual relationship.

Always keep in mind that you should be looking to do whats right, not what feels best.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 06:59 GMT
#37
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 07:03:23
August 06 2003 07:00 GMT
#38
On August 06 2003 15:57 Liquid`Drone wrote:
"the right thing" obsoletelogic would be fucking the lady who wants to be fucked.

not denying her of the same pleasure you also want.
its not a fucking rape we are talking about here yo.


You live in Norway. Your opinion doesn't count, because your country is morally bereft ):

Go read Brave New World. Thats what your hedonistic, sexually centralized society would be like.
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GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 07:00 GMT
#39
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 07:02 GMT
#40
You mean am I trying to be some kind of holy roller? No. But I am religious, and that is the basis for my arguments. (FYI: I wasn't always, and yes I did have a conversion, so don't say my views are ignorant and one-sided. I've been on both ends of the spectrum).
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
August 06 2003 07:02 GMT
#41
lol logic
objectifying somebody doesn't mean fucking and vice versa!
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 07:04 GMT
#42
Surg, I know that. But objectification of women would be using them as an object, naturally for pleasurable activity.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 07:05 GMT
#43
On August 06 2003 15:41 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 15:31 BigBalls wrote:


who cares about morals man. The purpose of being alive is to have fun. We only live one life, everyones driving purpose behind EVERY ACTION is fun. why work a shitty job that pays well? So one can have fun in retirement.

Every action has an intention of ending with some type of fun activity. Who cares if its morally wrong to have sex. If he enjoys it, go for it (as long as its within legal limits). If something he is doing is bringing harm to others, then its a bad action.

If his definition of sex is rape, then surely it is not good. But if he isnt kobe bryant, and he thinks sex is not ass raping a girl in a hotel room, then hes seeking pleasure out of it, and his partner is getting pleasure out of it. It is a good thing.


and getting sexual experience early is also a good thing. once you get to college you dont want to be a little 2 pump chump hornball that turns off all the girls he meets.


Did you just read the last sentence, or the whole paragraph? Hitler enjoyed masturbating while a prostitute kicked him. He also enjoyed killing Jews. The basis of your argument is legality, but why? You just said who cares about morals. Legislature is a form of instilling and regulating proper moral conduct.

As for caring about morality, cultures which started with moral affluence, rose to great things, but ultimately fell apart when they became morally lax. Just look at ancient Rome; they started with a strong military and strong virtues. Paederasty wasn't a cornerstone of their lifestyles (as it was of the Greeks, who never held on to much for long), they had strong religious virtues. But as their coffers grew, their moral backbone bent. Infanticde, homosexuality, pedophilia in general, all became commonplace and were never fully eradicated from the Empire, particularly in the Eastern (post Constantine, naturally). Just an observation (I did a report on this a few years ago)


EDIT: Forgot to quote
EDIT: P.S., not every action is driven by fun. Man saves child from a burning house! Doesn't sound like a fun-based activity, to me.


just because hitler likes A and likes B doesnt mean all people who like A like B. Its logically incorrect to jump from a single case to a general case and compare his psychotic nature with anyone else. When I said who cares about morals, I was referring to you bringing up violence as an example to sex. Who cares if he has sex with this girl, as long as everything he does is within legal limits.

Hes not dealing with something along those lines. hes dealing with intercourse. is that legal? yes, the age of consent is 16. is it morally correct? its not morally wrong, it may not be the best thing to do, but there isnt anything wrong with it (im not a believer in religion)

as for the morality of a society causing its downfall, you mentioned 3 things, infanticide, homosexuality, pedophilia. 2 of these are illegal. one is a legal but a psychological problem. and none of these can be attributed to directly causing the downfall of an empire. just because a correlation exists, there doesnt have to be a cause-effect.


as for the situation regarding a man saving a childs life, I would write a proof showing how it can lead to fun, but I dont have time. someone wants me to copy shit for them and mail it out, and help them take stuff out of their car, so ill do it later
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 07:10 GMT
#44
Balls, you could connect saving a childs life to eating a french fry if you wanted to, but it wouldn't really be pertinent. If you want more examples from the Roman Empire: leniency, sloth, greed, slavery, adultery and all manner of extramarital affairs, and religious laxity.

Infanticide is the same principle as abortion; aside from the fact that there were about 30 minutes difference between the execution (of the action) of one and the other.
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SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
August 06 2003 07:12 GMT
#45
you got it all wrong, buddy. That pleasurable activity you are talking about is by nature deeply desired by both sexes. You sound like every time i wanna fuck my girlfriend, it's an objectification. cmon, the guy was even talking about "connection"
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 07:13 GMT
#46
SurG, ever stop to think that maybe every time you wnat to fuck your girlfriend, it is objectification?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 07:15 GMT
#47
Anyways, I've got to get to work, and this argument is starting to boil down to semantics (bleh). So, fun argument, and Perli... DO THE RIGHT THING! -_-
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Macrophage
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany730 Posts
August 06 2003 07:18 GMT
#48
it's funny, the usa are well known both for their "liberal" youth culture and their conservative hardcore fanatics
SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
August 06 2003 07:18 GMT
#49
On August 06 2003 16:15 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Anyways, I've got to get to work, and this argument is starting to boil down to semantics (bleh). So, fun argument, and Perli... DO THE RIGHT THING! -_-

even if it is, she likes it. That's the point. Ever stop to think that sometimes people want to be treated like objects in some ways?
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
August 06 2003 07:26 GMT
#50
NO! :D
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SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
August 06 2003 07:29 GMT
#51
too bad :p
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
August 06 2003 07:32 GMT
#52
Being with someone isn't meant to be thought out or thought logically, not in most cases, especially when you're young. Don't try to use your head about that stuff, just go out and do what feels right.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 07:44 GMT
#53
On August 06 2003 16:10 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Balls, you could connect saving a childs life to eating a french fry if you wanted to, but it wouldn't really be pertinent. If you want more examples from the Roman Empire: leniency, sloth, greed, slavery, adultery and all manner of extramarital affairs, and religious laxity.

Infanticide is the same principle as abortion; aside from the fact that there were about 30 minutes difference between the execution (of the action) of one and the other.


and of course all of those made them get taken over by the germanic tribes. their lack of morals made them inept at war
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Funktion
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia156 Posts
August 06 2003 07:44 GMT
#54
If she is fun etc then just go for it. You don't even know for sure she is a slut. Usually its just all hear say bullshit anyway. There is nothing wrong with being a slut anyway. If guys can bang hell chicks then I dont see a reason why it can't work in reverse.
Right or wrong doesn't come into it anyway. Do you both want to get it on? THEN GO FOR IT.

For all you know she could of posted on some other forum "Is it wrong to hook up with some pissed cunt just for sex?".

But I am religious, and that is the basis for my arguments.

Didn't see that coming a mile away.
Wuzzle Woozle?
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 07:48:43
August 06 2003 07:46 GMT
#55
ah, the argument seems done... GJ to both sides, althou comparing a 16 yr old boy to a 3000 old Roman Empire... kinda far-fetched

btw, best post was BigBalls' second
hahah still laughin about that one


{edit} 2nd, thought it was first
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 07:47 GMT
#56
and besides, a lack of morals in society is a complete non sequitur (sp?) to this subject and doesnt really involve sex for a 16 year old. the laws are meant to uphold our society. Just because some morals lead to laws, doesnt mean all morally correct things should be abided by. This is not even saying sex is morally wrong. I feel no guilt when I have sex. If sex WERE morally wrong, there is no law that prohibits adults of the correct age from having consensual sex.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 06 2003 07:50 GMT
#57
All guys are sluts, why can't girls be?
why so 진지해?
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
August 06 2003 07:52 GMT
#58
haha, thats so true Reckrul
althou im not sure about logic here,
he seems to be an impotent
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 07:54 GMT
#59
On August 06 2003 16:50 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
All guys are sluts, why can't girls be?


cause double standards are the best thing since sliced bread
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
August 06 2003 08:03 GMT
#60
if this kate girl truly is a "slut", then it would be in your best interest to stay away. for one, as u get to know her better(and most likely develop strong feelings towards her), then u will begin to learn of her past. although now it may seem like thats not much of an issue emotionally for you, if u care about her, it will become a serious issue, and one that u most likely will not be able to handle(assuming becuase of your age u dont have much experiance with this). i assure you, u will not be able to not ask about her reputation. although things may seem fun and exiting at first, in the long run you will get burned more than what it is worth. your have the rest of your life to have sex....
as a young man being naturally more emotionally stable than a young woman, i think its partially your responsibility to be protective of a girl who most likely has got alot of problems. sex is good, but it is not worth being part of a regrettable past and alot of emotional turmoil. if u really "like" her, u should take care of her, by looking out for her emotionally, not by looking out for you or her physically.
i suspect if u get into a relationship with such a girl, in the end u will both just be hurt. you by knowing that you will never have anything from her that other people havnt had, and her by looking for attention in all the wrong places. if u stay away, u will just have a good friend, and in the back of your head u will always know u did the right thing
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
C)R
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada549 Posts
August 06 2003 08:23 GMT
#61
k for 16 that is pretty good, just use her for a bit, if you don't u'll regret it, trust me. It seems harsh but when you get older u'll realise that people use eachother all the time. That "good" girl you're looking for probly doesn't exist. However, a relationship with a great girl >> ez sex. When you find her she won't care about that you slept with sluts when you were 16. Get them while they're desease free
C)R
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada549 Posts
August 06 2003 08:33 GMT
#62
On August 06 2003 16:13 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
SurG, ever stop to think that maybe every time you wnat to fuck your girlfriend, it is objectification?


I feel sorry for u
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
August 06 2003 08:45 GMT
#63
My two cents:

Serious relationships are indeed a very serious thing and should not be dealt with lightly. It's a very intimate connection with another fellow human being with all the same feelings, emotions, intelligence.

I think that if you meet a girl you really, truly like and really, truly feel attracted to, you won't immediately just have an instinct or urge to have intercourse.

If you really love this girl, you'll want to have a loving(no this does not mean sex every day), lasting relationship with her. (aka being with her, doing things with her.(NO NOT SEX)

Sex is a very intimate form of showing love to one another, both members should feel comfortable with it, and should trust each other very deeply; and should only be done when you both members genuinly feel that they're looking for another way to show their love to one another. Sex is only a 'byproduct' of a seriously intimate, true relationship and when it is, it can be very 'safe' as both members will be completely honest towards feelings on many perspectives on it.

I think that when you really love a girl, you'll admire her for her general beauty (not for her "hotness" or whatever), her personality, feelings, and learn to respect her as a fellow being.

:grammatical errors kaka:
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 08:47 GMT
#64
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 06 2003 08:54 GMT
#65
On August 06 2003 15:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Stupid, stupid, and uh... stupid. I know I'm in the extreme minority on this forum, being a conservative, but for god's sake... can't you people keep it in your pants? Think with your head, not with your cock. Not with BigBalls cock, either. By "take advantage of it", he really means, "take advantage of her." If you're going to have cheap, meaningless sex, find a prostitute. That way you're only inflicting idiocy on yourself.

heh, don't worry i'm one of the few conservatives too. I agree with Obsolete, dont be a whore.
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 06 2003 08:55 GMT
#66
On August 06 2003 15:06 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yeah obsolete thats a stupid attitude.

go for it, you're gonna regret it if you don't. ^_^

How was that a stupid attitude? That was a bad statement.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 09:13:49
August 06 2003 09:13 GMT
#67
On August 06 2003 17:23 C)R wrote:
k for 16 that is pretty good, just use her for a bit, if you don't u'll regret it, trust me. It seems harsh but when you get older u'll realise that people use eachother all the time


I dont like such thoughts
C)R
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada549 Posts
August 06 2003 09:16 GMT
#68
welcome 2 planet earth
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 06 2003 09:16 GMT
#69
On August 06 2003 18:13 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 17:23 C)R wrote:
k for 16 that is pretty good, just use her for a bit, if you don't u'll regret it, trust me. It seems harsh but when you get older u'll realise that people use eachother all the time


I dont like such thoughts

same...
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
August 06 2003 09:18 GMT
#70
Some people here speak of using girls, or taking advantage of them, or "objectification".
Ever heard of women thinking for themselves, who maybe want sex like in this case ?
fuqin-suck
Profile Joined February 2003
United States142 Posts
August 06 2003 09:18 GMT
#71
dont fall head over heels over some slutty ass chic.

but definitely bang the shit out of her.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 09:34 GMT
#72
On August 06 2003 18:18 Maenander wrote:
Some people here speak of using girls, or taking advantage of them, or "objectification".
Ever heard of women thinking for themselves, who maybe want sex like in this case ?


That would be objectification of the man. It works both ways.

<3 to Vharon.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Lockdown-
Profile Joined May 2003
United States297 Posts
August 06 2003 09:47 GMT
#73
Obsolete Logic i admire your morals and values


i completly agree
MusiK[WG]
Profile Joined July 2003
United States54 Posts
August 06 2003 09:53 GMT
#74
Why didnt i see this post earlier. I got some xperince here
1st off perli, it does sound like ur kinda lookin for a relationship, if thats the case then go for a nicer chick not a slut, but also knowing ur 16, ill say at least do her once or twice, don't do her too many times, u might start fallin for her and trust me u DONT WANT TO FALL IN LOVE WITH HER, u said she has a nice personality, fun to be around and to talk to, and im guessin shes gonna be real good with the sex. All have a makin of someone any guy will fall hard in love with. This is where my xperince comes in, as u start to like her, u will find out more things about her past that you wont like and its gonna eat u up so bad inside especially if u fall in love with her. And knowin that shes a slut, shes most likely goin to break ur heart in the future which in turn will fuck u up more .
Trust me on that, i won't call my ex a slut, she was a nice girl when we met, but after we hooked up and fell in love and everything else, i found out some things she had done in the past, things that i'm not gonna say , this led me to not trustin her and always accusin her of cheatin and stuff, she eventually broke up with me...Good for me right? No...Why? cuz i was fuckin in love with her so fuckin much, we broke up 3 months ago, i still havent moved on from her, she does want to get back together but who knows.
back to u
Considerin ur only 16 (btw im 22) its highly likely u wont get heartbroken in the future if u fall in love with her and she leaves or somthin. And Bigballs is right, if anythin, u will learn a lot from her if u 2 do get in a relationship, but from ur 1st post it kinda sounds like ur a nice guy who is lookin for a relationship with our kate lol, like not the type bigball's wrote his post for, so i'm kinda worried for u

In conclusion, ur only 16 do her at least twice, if u want a nice girl, dont have a relationship with her, find someone betta, every girl is crazy when it comes to sex, some u gotta bring it out of them, others like our friend kate dont need that help. so if its the sex and looks, im sure u can find someone who is nicer and not a slut. And also go with ur heart and do what will make u happy. U cant go wrong with either decision, just know the consequencies of each one.
1
Girls suck for real. 1 advice, never get attached or fall in love with a girl. 99.9 of the time it will come back to haunt u. Be smart do it just for the nookie
Capn
Profile Joined December 2002
United States539 Posts
August 06 2003 09:54 GMT
#75
On August 06 2003 17:47 GoSexyPerli wrote:
i have stated that i dont like her only for her hotness.... She has a great personality, easy to talk to, funny, etc. Its icing on the cake.

Then go for it. How is this using the girl? She wants him, he wants her...sounds pretty simple to me what you should do.

Plus, you're in high school...have some fun. You don't need to be searching for the perfect relationship right now.
SUPREMEICEBEAM!!!
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 10:01:24
August 06 2003 10:00 GMT
#76
On August 06 2003 18:54 Capn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 17:47 GoSexyPerli wrote:
i have stated that i dont like her only for her hotness.... She has a great personality, easy to talk to, funny, etc. Its icing on the cake.

Then go for it. How is this using the girl? She wants him, he wants her...sounds pretty simple to me what you should do.


Plus, you're in high school...have some fun. You don't need to be searching for the perfect relationship right now.


nor do you want to mess with whores...
conservatives will be coming around the mountain when they come... coming around the mountain when they come...
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 06 2003 10:01 GMT
#77
On August 06 2003 18:47 Lockdown- wrote:
Obsolete Logic i admire your morals and values


i completly agree

same
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
August 06 2003 10:03 GMT
#78
On August 06 2003 18:34 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
That would be objectification of the man. It works both ways.

So sex is all "objectification" in ur eyes. Hmmm.
Not for me.

ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 10:03 GMT
#79
Don't take relationship advice from a guy who has "From personal experience, i have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as real love, only a strong sense of infatuation and likeness towards another individual," as his signature...
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 06 2003 10:20 GMT
#80
On August 06 2003 19:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Don't take relationship advice from a guy who has "From personal experience, i have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as real love, only a strong sense of infatuation and likeness towards another individual," as his signature...

hahahah
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28642 Posts
August 06 2003 10:23 GMT
#81
* I do not want anyone to use anyone *.

she wants sexual contact with him. he wants sexual contact with her. why should they not have sexual contact with eachother? ^_^

there's nothing keeping the girl from not having sexual contact with him and there's nothing keeping him from not having sexual contact with her, if there's anything they don't want to do then they can just tell eachother ! ! ! !

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Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 06 2003 10:26 GMT
#82
On August 06 2003 19:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:
* I do not want anyone to use anyone *.

she wants sexual contact with him. he wants sexual contact with her. why should they not have sexual contact with eachother? ^_^

there's nothing keeping the girl from not having sexual contact with him and there's nothing keeping him from not having sexual contact with her, if there's anything they don't want to do then they can just tell eachother ! ! ! !


he asked a question.. "Is it ok to like a slut?" i was just saying... NO it's not ok. =]
SlimeVolleyBall
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada23 Posts
August 06 2003 10:32 GMT
#83
hit it!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28642 Posts
August 06 2003 11:15 GMT
#84
well im saying there's nothing wrong with being a slut. for either sex. ^_^
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 11:17 GMT
#85
Eri, have you ever heard of those things called "families" ? ):
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Shockey
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2615 Posts
August 06 2003 11:25 GMT
#86
fuck her, then get a real girlfriend. its that simple. youre only young once.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
August 06 2003 11:28 GMT
#87
On August 06 2003 20:17 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Eri, have you ever heard of those things called "families" ? ):

those things you make after you get tired of the sluts?

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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28642 Posts
August 06 2003 11:29 GMT
#88
EXACTLY! ^_^
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GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 11:29 GMT
#89
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 11:34:04
August 06 2003 11:33 GMT
#90
Or in the case of your parents nazgul, the mistake t.t
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
doCrepuS
Profile Joined August 2003
Cook Islands28 Posts
August 06 2003 11:36 GMT
#91
Life isn't all fun and games.


BUT IT SURE WOULD BE BETTER IF IT WERE EH?
Which is worse, WCG maps or the Caro-Kann defense? A great conundrum
Capn
Profile Joined December 2002
United States539 Posts
August 06 2003 11:37 GMT
#92
lol
SUPREMEICEBEAM!!!
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 11:38 GMT
#93
I sense sexual frustration from a goodly amount of posters here
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Cheez
Profile Joined July 2003
United States262 Posts
August 06 2003 11:40 GMT
#94
yo fuk that bitch man...shit hahahahhaha...
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 11:42:26
August 06 2003 11:41 GMT
#95
On August 06 2003 20:33 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Or in the case of your parents nazgul, the mistake t.t


roflmao, but his sister definitely WASNT a mistake

if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Capn
Profile Joined December 2002
United States539 Posts
August 06 2003 11:41 GMT
#96
On August 06 2003 19:26 Vharon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 19:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:
* I do not want anyone to use anyone *.

she wants sexual contact with him. he wants sexual contact with her. why should they not have sexual contact with eachother? ^_^

there's nothing keeping the girl from not having sexual contact with him and there's nothing keeping him from not having sexual contact with her, if there's anything they don't want to do then they can just tell eachother ! ! ! !


he asked a question.. "Is it ok to like a slut?" i was just saying... NO it's not ok. =]

What's wrong with that? If you like her, you like her.
SUPREMEICEBEAM!!!
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 11:45 GMT
#97
More seriously, to answer the question, you obviously like her

Now ignore all of these kids posting shit about how you should not have sex cuz it's wrong and the other ones saying you should be a man and go for it. This isn't exactly a topic you should present to a buncha SC nerds.
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
FridayLove
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1478 Posts
August 06 2003 11:47 GMT
#98
Hahahha BigBalls's comments are fun to read just because of that spacebar :-o
I dont care if mondys blue...
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 11:57 GMT
#99
On August 06 2003 20:45 Vicious)Soul wrote:
More seriously, to answer the question, you obviously like her

Now ignore all of these kids posting shit about how you should not have sex cuz it's wrong and the other ones saying you should be a man and go for it. This isn't exactly a topic you should present to a buncha SC nerds.


You are better.... how?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 11:59 GMT
#100
On August 06 2003 20:57 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 20:45 Vicious)Soul wrote:
More seriously, to answer the question, you obviously like her

Now ignore all of these kids posting shit about how you should not have sex cuz it's wrong and the other ones saying you should be a man and go for it. This isn't exactly a topic you should present to a buncha SC nerds.


You are better.... how?


didn't claim to be

but at least everyone else here is just giving advice, you're trying to force an ideal down his throat and that's not exactly the most moral action either.
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 12:00 GMT
#101
On August 06 2003 20:47 YouTopia[SB] wrote:
Hahahha BigBalls's comments are fun to read just because of that spacebar :-o


dude the spacebar is driving me nuts, its fine right now, but it was having its period before. The L key is worse. LLL = hitting L 10 times
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imRadu
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
1798 Posts
August 06 2003 12:02 GMT
#102
out of 6 ages the only notable thing you should remember is to do her TWICE

ROFL
Its really good to see that some people dont let education get in the way of their ignorance
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:07 GMT
#103
On August 06 2003 19:03 Maenander wrote:
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On August 06 2003 18:34 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
That would be objectification of the man. It works both ways.

So sex is all "objectification" in ur eyes. Hmmm.
Not for me.



No; sex between two people who sincerely love each other is not. However, I feel as though there is some discord on what mine and your defintions of love would be.

In my eyes:

The only thing that is truely 100% ours, that can't be taken away from us, is our will (except perhaps by death, but no one knows). You can give someone your mind, your body, all your thoughts, everything in the world, but all of that can be taken away, perverted, twisted, or turned malign. Thus the only thing you can really give someone, that no one else can stop you from, is your will. To go ahead and make the choice to continue acting with love towards that person, even though you don't feel like it. Because, face it - some days, some weeks, months, or even years, you may not feel like it. Ask any couple that has been together long enough, and they'll say that its true. In archaic languages, such as Greek and Aramaic, they had multiple words for "love"; eros - physical, philios - fraternal, and agave (agape) - choice.

Conclusion - Love, true love, has all three qualities. Each requires the other to function as it should, within the whole.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 12:10 GMT
#104
On August 06 2003 21:07 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 19:03 Maenander wrote:
On August 06 2003 18:34 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
That would be objectification of the man. It works both ways.

So sex is all "objectification" in ur eyes. Hmmm.
Not for me.



No; sex between two people who sincerely love each other is not. However, I feel as though there is some discord on what mine and your defintions of love would be.

In my eyes:

The only thing that is truely 100% ours, that can't be taken away from us, is our will (except perhaps by death, but no one knows). You can give someone your mind, your body, all your thoughts, everything in the world, but all of that can be taken away, perverted, twisted, or turned malign. Thus the only thing you can really give someone, that no one else can stop you from, is your will. To go ahead and make the choice to continue acting with love towards that person, even though you don't feel like it. Because, face it - some days, some weeks, months, or even years, you may not feel like it. Ask any couple that has been together long enough, and they'll say that its true. In archaic languages, such as Greek and Aramaic, they had multiple words for "love"; eros - physical, philios - fraternal, and agave (agape) - choice.

Conclusion - Love, true love, has all three qualities. Each requires the other to function as it should, within the whole.


whats the difference between lust love and true love?
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:10 GMT
#105
On August 06 2003 20:59 Vicious)Soul wrote:
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On August 06 2003 20:57 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
On August 06 2003 20:45 Vicious)Soul wrote:
More seriously, to answer the question, you obviously like her

Now ignore all of these kids posting shit about how you should not have sex cuz it's wrong and the other ones saying you should be a man and go for it. This isn't exactly a topic you should present to a buncha SC nerds.


You are better.... how?


didn't claim to be

but at least everyone else here is just giving advice, you're trying to force an ideal down his throat and that's not exactly the most moral action either.


I'm not trying to force it down his throat, and the manner in which I am speaking is no different than BigBalls. You just disagree with me, so you resort to the age old attack of, essentially, calling me a moral fascist.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:11 GMT
#106
Lust is purely physical. True love is physical, fraternal (not actually brotherly, but, you know what I mean. The love you have for a friend), and the love of choice (so that you act within the first two even when you don't feel like it)
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 12:12 GMT
#107
On August 06 2003 21:11 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Lust is purely physical. True love is physical, fraternal (not actually brotherly, but, you know what I mean. The love you have for a friend), and the love of choice (so that you act within the first two even when you don't feel like it)


wrong, spitting, swallowing and gargling

muahahhahaha
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Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:14 GMT
#108
Obsolete,

What you say is true. But remember that the majority of human beings will forget what love means if they ever even knew, and even more don't care. Don't preach to a crowd that's too hopeless to understand and will only flame you again.
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Imperium
Profile Joined December 2002
United States614 Posts
August 06 2003 12:14 GMT
#109
this thread brings back bad memories
such an oob!! go back to diablo
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:15 GMT
#110
Actually there hasn't been much flaming yet, and what there has been, I've ignored (:
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:16 GMT
#111
On August 06 2003 21:10 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 20:59 Vicious)Soul wrote:
On August 06 2003 20:57 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
On August 06 2003 20:45 Vicious)Soul wrote:
More seriously, to answer the question, you obviously like her

Now ignore all of these kids posting shit about how you should not have sex cuz it's wrong and the other ones saying you should be a man and go for it. This isn't exactly a topic you should present to a buncha SC nerds.


You are better.... how?


didn't claim to be

but at least everyone else here is just giving advice, you're trying to force an ideal down his throat and that's not exactly the most moral action either.


I'm not trying to force it down his throat, and the manner in which I am speaking is no different than BigBalls. You just disagree with me, so you resort to the age old attack of, essentially, calling me a moral fascist.


You're making too many assumptions, i don't disagree with you. I think the best thing for him would not to have sex with this girl and find someone "nicer." Bigballs also isn't exactly presenting his opinion lightly either. I never said what he was doing was right either.
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 12:17:43
August 06 2003 12:17 GMT
#112
Well you certainly insinuated it. Theres a fine line between advice and opinions, but I think its already pretty clearly established that we're hardly even talking about the original post anymore (:

800th post :O
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:17 GMT
#113
On August 06 2003 21:12 BigBalls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 21:11 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Lust is purely physical. True love is physical, fraternal (not actually brotherly, but, you know what I mean. The love you have for a friend), and the love of choice (so that you act within the first two even when you don't feel like it)


wrong, spitting, swallowing and gargling

muahahhahaha


Your talents I'd assume?
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:19 GMT
#114
On August 06 2003 21:17 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Well you certainly insinuated it. Theres a fine line between advice and opinions, but I think its already pretty clearly established that we're hardly even talking about the original post anymore (:

800th post :O


Sorry about insinuation, I just honestly think it's more important for him to make his own choice than to give him our moral opinions, because he hasn't exactly led our lives. People never learn from the lives of others. And Bigballs is right about one thing, if he does go out and do this, he'll at least learn something
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:20 GMT
#115
On August 06 2003 21:19 Vicious)Soul wrote:
People never learn from the lives of others.


Thats a pretty naive statement, don't you think? What else is history for, then?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:21 GMT
#116
I meant with creating individual moral structure. History doesn't deal with individuals as much as society. People, when dealing with only themselves, can really only learn from themselves
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:22 GMT
#117
Congrats on 800th post :p
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:24 GMT
#118
The founding fathers of our country weren't individuals? Gandhi, Joan of Arc, Henry VIII, Luther, Calvin, Muhammed, Constantine, Jesus, Moses?!?!? Please (: Any basis in character education is based around the strong examples of individuals who accomplished great things; society is reflective only of those individuals which it is comprised of.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:24 GMT
#119
When people give advice to others, when people learn history, do they truly understand every motive behind every action? Of course not, we can't live in other people's lives. The best we can do is make the assumption that they had good reasons. Same goes with history, we took what others did and assumed they had good reason for what they did, and then work off that. People, however, can't work like that. Individuals are too unique to truly let anyone else's life truly effect them
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:26 GMT
#120
Society is comprised of individuals, but it doesn't work backwards. The society created by the individuals isn't the individual, but that's the best we have to work off of. And on the indivudal level, it's not good enough
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 12:27 GMT
#121
On August 06 2003 21:24 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
The founding fathers of our country weren't individuals? Gandhi, Joan of Arc, Henry VIII, Luther, Calvin, Muhammed, Constantine, Jesus, Moses?!?!? Please (: Any basis in character education is based around the strong examples of individuals who accomplished great things; society is reflective only of those individuals which it is comprised of.


im going to learn a lot more if i try something and fail than if someone tells me it doesnt work or i read something from 3000 years ago that failed.
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Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:28 GMT
#122
On August 06 2003 21:27 BigBalls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 21:24 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
The founding fathers of our country weren't individuals? Gandhi, Joan of Arc, Henry VIII, Luther, Calvin, Muhammed, Constantine, Jesus, Moses?!?!? Please (: Any basis in character education is based around the strong examples of individuals who accomplished great things; society is reflective only of those individuals which it is comprised of.


im going to learn a lot more if i try something and fail than if someone tells me it doesnt work or i read something from 3000 years ago that failed.


Exactly. People just can't work from the lives of others, assuming they were right, even if they were! Our moral basis is comprised off of our own experiences, and at best, guided by others, but not chosen by it
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 12:29 GMT
#123
how about all those eastern religions that have men at a certain age going out into a forest for weeks on end to find them true selves? people going to the edge of life, starving themselves, almost dying, just to find out what someone else who did it could tell them?
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Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:29 GMT
#124
Bigballs, I find it surprising that we're arguing the same point. Maybe I shouldn't
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:30 GMT
#125
On August 06 2003 21:29 BigBalls wrote:
how about all those eastern religions that have men at a certain age going out into a forest for weeks on end to find them true selves? people going to the edge of life, starving themselves, almost dying, just to find out what someone else who did it could tell them?


You ever read Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse?
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:30 GMT
#126
I really don't know where you're pulling this from. My life has been most inspired by others examples. And while its true that we can't understand the motives behind every action, we can understand their actions themselves. I mean, maybe Constantine was really just looking to A: get rich and B: get his mother off his back, but what he did put an end to thousands of brutal deaths, and terrible suffering in the Roman Empire. And when you give advice, it can be based off what other people have told you/written as well. I'm not just going off my limited personal experience, but that of my large family and the writings of philosophers and such.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 12:30 GMT
#127
On August 06 2003 21:29 Vicious)Soul wrote:
Bigballs, I find it surprising that we're arguing the same point. Maybe I shouldn't


i think its safe to say this is the fastest growing thread in the history of TL (minus the play by play starleague stuff)

i type something and by the time i post it you have already posted the same thing :/
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esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
August 06 2003 12:31 GMT
#128
go have a church wedding or whatever...
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:32 GMT
#129
Then we're just different people. It's just difficult for some to accept the ideals of others and everything learned must come from themselves
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:32 GMT
#130
On August 06 2003 21:30 BigBalls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 21:29 Vicious)Soul wrote:
Bigballs, I find it surprising that we're arguing the same point. Maybe I shouldn't


i think its safe to say this is the fastest growing thread in the history of TL (minus the play by play starleague stuff)

i type something and by the time i post it you have already posted the same thing :/


hehe, sorry
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:33 GMT
#131
On August 06 2003 21:26 Vicious)Soul wrote:
Society is comprised of individuals, but it doesn't work backwards. The society created by the individuals isn't the individual, but that's the best we have to work off of. And on the indivudal level, it's not good enough


One piece of a puzzle with the wrong image can make the whole puzzle look bad; similarly, one bad person in a group makes the group, as a whole, depreciate in value. Not that the others are bad as individuals, but by association with the one corrupted individual... you get the picture.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:33 GMT
#132
On August 06 2003 21:31 esk0 wrote:
go have a church wedding or whatever...



ooooh, i'm sorry to work off a sarcastic comment, but I'm engaged!!! Congrats to me! or just don't care...I don't really midn either way
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 06 2003 12:33 GMT
#133
On August 06 2003 21:30 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
I really don't know where you're pulling this from. My life has been most inspired by others examples. And while its true that we can't understand the motives behind every action, we can understand their actions themselves. I mean, maybe Constantine was really just looking to A: get rich and B: get his mother off his back, but what he did put an end to thousands of brutal deaths, and terrible suffering in the Roman Empire. And when you give advice, it can be based off what other people have told you/written as well. I'm not just going off my limited personal experience, but that of my large family and the writings of philosophers and such.


then try and use augustine as an example. He had SO MUCH TROUBLE converting to christianity. He knew what he wanted, he knew what everyone told him, but he just had to find it out for himself. It was a self discovery, something everyone should go through.

Not advocating a religious passage for everyone, but people should discover things for themselves instead of having it passed onto them from others.

However, the side obsolete is arguing isnt bad either. "The only reason I have accomplished anything is because I stood on the shoulders of giants" - Newton...gotta run, id love to talk about this more but one of my coworkers is PISSED.

cya
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:34 GMT
#134
Ahhhh... trying to talk to poeple on aim at the same time as I'm arguing! I come back and there are 6 new posts ):
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:35 GMT
#135
On August 06 2003 21:33 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 21:26 Vicious)Soul wrote:
Society is comprised of individuals, but it doesn't work backwards. The society created by the individuals isn't the individual, but that's the best we have to work off of. And on the indivudal level, it's not good enough


One piece of a puzzle with the wrong image can make the whole puzzle look bad; similarly, one bad person in a group makes the group, as a whole, depreciate in value. Not that the others are bad as individuals, but by association with the one corrupted individual... you get the picture.


And that's what makes it hard forindividuals to look off of even other individuals. That which we see of other individuals is the entire collection of who they are, and their morals on a thousand different things mingle indefinitely to become a whole.
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
DReaMe
Profile Joined October 2002
United States337 Posts
August 06 2003 12:36 GMT
#136
that was fucking hilariuos, you little pussy...hahaha
alcohol as a reason to _NOT_ get sex?

hahahahaha
wo chej ma go ren
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 12:38:32
August 06 2003 12:36 GMT
#137
On August 06 2003 21:33 BigBalls wrote:
However, the side obsolete is arguing isnt bad either. "The only reason I have accomplished anything is because I stood on the shoulders of giants" - Newton


So true, we can't live with just one or the other. Like I said, the examples of others can serve as a guide, which we really need pretty often, but without experiencing things for ourselves, our understanding of the reasons behind our own morals is diminished
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
August 06 2003 12:37 GMT
#138
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:37 GMT
#139
Congrats Vicious.

For BB, when you get back, Augustine made the choice himself; of course. No one can choose anything for you (refer to my earlier point regarding your Will/Love). But he was influenced by others around him. Particularly Ambrose, whose sermons did a great deal to help Augustine question his lifestyle and beliefs.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
C)R
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada549 Posts
August 06 2003 12:39 GMT
#140
can u guys get any more nerdy beating the shit outta this thing?
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
August 06 2003 12:39 GMT
#141
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Ion)Positive
Profile Joined March 2003
Morocco1389 Posts
August 06 2003 12:41 GMT
#142
I only read about the first 10 posts, but from what I read I say "nice" to ObsoleteLogic.
Seems most men think of girls as cock mittens but i'm glad there are still some real men alive.
Because everything is nothing and emptiness isnt everything. This reality is really just a fucked up dream with the flesh and the blood that you carve your soul flip it inside out its a big black hole.
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:41 GMT
#143
On August 06 2003 21:37 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
ObseleteLogic wrote
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Anyways, my point is that just because you enjoy something, doesn't mean its good.


This guy is 16. He went to a mates house and touched up a girl. She wanted him to.

If they officially date, then there might be a bit more to it. They might have to, you know, talk more and spend money. They might just have a bit of fun in the park or after class, like most teen couples.

They might go chill on the wall watching the sk8rs.

But, I can assure you, sex for fun is not an inherently bad thing.
Ten billion people will tell you this. Ten billion people have gone through fun and hardship, and I'm pretty sure most would prefer that little extra risk[1] if it meant they can have their cock sucked one more time.

And dude, this guy isn't even talking about dating seriously. He wants some pussy. It's not taking advantage. The bird was on HIM, remember.
Don't be daft.

Okay, I'm gonna go read the rest of this garbage :p

[1] OMG THEY MITE HAEV A FIGHT AND BRAKE UP AFTER TOO WEKEKS WTF


You aren't reading enough into the words. He's not just in there for pure sex, he seems to actually want a real relationship, otherwise, he woulda just fucked her and not even bothered to post this. Not everyone's emothionally numb from bad relationship experiences
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 12:43:13
August 06 2003 12:41 GMT
#144
On August 06 2003 21:39 C)R wrote:
can u guys get any more nerdy beating the shit outta this thing?


we're on a different topic, it's just too incovenient to go to a new thread
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:42 GMT
#145
On August 06 2003 21:36 DReaMe wrote:
that was fucking hilariuos, you little pussy...hahaha
alcohol as a reason to _NOT_ get sex?

hahahahaha


Another buy-in to the stereotypes of teen life. Wake up buddy
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
August 06 2003 12:43 GMT
#146
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:43 GMT
#147
On August 06 2003 21:41 Ion)Positive wrote:
I only read about the first 10 posts, but from what I read I say "nice" to ObsoleteLogic.
Seems most men think of girls as cock mittens but i'm glad there are still some real men alive.


Heheheh. Take that, sexually driven punks!
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 12:44:07
August 06 2003 12:43 GMT
#148
Chibi, take the flaming elsewhere please. ):

810? Didn't I just hit 800 a few minutes ago? ):
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:45 GMT
#149
it's actually been like 20 minutes, i'm surprised i've managed to waste so much time in this discussion and not get caught by coworkers yet
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Liquid`Ninja
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada27 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 12:48:26
August 06 2003 12:46 GMT
#150
You should definitely have sex with her. But don't fall in love with her... You are young, You should have fun. Don't wait till you're in your thirties, to realize how your life sucks because of how you missed out on all the fun when you were younger, thinking you were doing the "right" thing, while everyone else was having fun. It will be too late then. You only live ONE life. Make the most of it!

If a girl desires you, and you desire her too, and youre both okay with getting more intimate, then why not have sex? I do NOT agree with obsolete logic with almost everything he says, in that... his approach with relationships sounds so politically correct, so right, it's like so respectful I can smell boredom from a mile away!

Anyways I do realize no matter what people will tell you, you can't reason with attraction and love. If I am in love with a girl, and my friends tell me not to... It's not like it's a choice or anything, if I feel attracted to her it's not like I've chosen to, attraction is not a choice. It just happens for reasons unknown, you can try to reason with love all you want... but in the end, if you havent learned this yet... then you havent learned anything at all. But, yes in a long term relationship love can become a choice... in that you have to consciously choose to love your partner, because you cannot always feel this love... 24/7 365 days a year...

if you dont have fun while you are young... you wont acquire and gain as much experience and maturity as if you did.

and i should know
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 12:46 GMT
#151
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:46 GMT
#152
Haha. I work at home. Its wonderful (:

"Another buy-in to the stereotypes of teen life. Wake up buddy"

Sad, isn't it?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 12:49:24
August 06 2003 12:48 GMT
#153
On August 06 2003 21:46 Liquid`Ninja wrote:

I do NOT agree with obsolete logic with almost everything he says, in that... his approach with relationships sounds so politically correct, so right, it's like so respectful I can smell boredom from a mile away!


You need sex to make your life not boring? Sucks to be you
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:48 GMT
#154
On August 06 2003 21:46 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Haha. I work at home. Its wonderful (:

"Another buy-in to the stereotypes of teen life. Wake up buddy"

Sad, isn't it?


eh, too common to be sad anymore
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Ion)Positive
Profile Joined March 2003
Morocco1389 Posts
August 06 2003 12:50 GMT
#155
Yes, you only live once so how about you do everything possible thats morally wrong. The only bad part is spending an infinite amount of time in hell. But thats just forever, right? No biggie go enjoy your aprox. 68 year life go do drugs steal murder rape whatever makes you happy.
Because everything is nothing and emptiness isnt everything. This reality is really just a fucked up dream with the flesh and the blood that you carve your soul flip it inside out its a big black hole.
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:50 GMT
#156
I think I'm giving up

I just fell into what I warned you of in the start of this, preaching to a crowd that doesn't care

Eh, thanks for the comvo Obsolete, it's nice to think every once in a while
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:52 GMT
#157
On August 06 2003 21:46 Liquid`Ninja wrote:
I do NOT agree with obsolete logic with almost everything he says, in that... his approach with relationships sounds so politically correct, so right, it's like so respectful I can smell boredom from a mile away!


Ahh! I have good, virtuous qualities! Whats wrong with me! I must be American or something ):
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 12:52 GMT
#158
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:53 GMT
#159
Bye Vicious, indeed.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 12:54:44
August 06 2003 12:54 GMT
#160
On August 06 2003 21:52 GoSexyPerli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 21:50 Ion)Positive wrote:
Yes, you only live once so how about you do everything possible thats morally wrong. The only bad part is spending an infinite amount of time in hell. But thats just forever, right? No biggie go enjoy your aprox. 68 year life go do drugs steal murder rape whatever makes you happy.



NTC_LUKE Mr.Korean(lol)

you have to realize that most people on this forum probably aernt religous =[

You forget that to a christian, hell exists whether or not you're religious
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Liquid`Ninja
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada27 Posts
August 06 2003 12:55 GMT
#161
sure does!
at least im enjoying my life

now where did i mention that i needed sex to not make my life boring?
i was stating how his approach to relationships sound so boring... objectify... using examples from 3000 years old roman empires... wth dude? its good to have morals and all, but. you should know... that it is all for the kid's own good for him to acquire as much experience as he can, it will serve him later in life
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 12:55 GMT
#162
ok, now i'm really shutting up cuz i need to work later!
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:56 GMT
#163
On August 06 2003 21:54 Vicious)Soul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 21:52 GoSexyPerli wrote:
On August 06 2003 21:50 Ion)Positive wrote:
Yes, you only live once so how about you do everything possible thats morally wrong. The only bad part is spending an infinite amount of time in hell. But thats just forever, right? No biggie go enjoy your aprox. 68 year life go do drugs steal murder rape whatever makes you happy.



NTC_LUKE Mr.Korean(lol)

you have to realize that most people on this forum probably aernt religous =[

You forget that to a christian, hell exists whether or not you're religious


And to a primative baptist, if you touch alcohol you're going to hell.

Fortunately, I'm Irish Catholic. We believe if you don't bring at least a 6 pack, you don't get into heaven.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Ion)Positive
Profile Joined March 2003
Morocco1389 Posts
August 06 2003 12:56 GMT
#164
I don't understand why not being religious means its worth the risk. I mean if your a murderer is it really worth it even if you don't believe it that there is a chance you will suffer forever as a consequence of your actions.. But its still worth it not to live a good and honest life?
Because everything is nothing and emptiness isnt everything. This reality is really just a fucked up dream with the flesh and the blood that you carve your soul flip it inside out its a big black hole.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 12:57 GMT
#165
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:57 GMT
#166
On August 06 2003 21:55 Liquid`Ninja wrote:
sure does!
at least im enjoying my life

now where did i mention that i needed sex to not make my life boring?
i was stating how his approach to relationships sound so boring... objectify... using examples from 3000 years old roman empires... wth dude? its good to have morals and all, but. you should know... that it is all for the kid's own good for him to acquire as much experience as he can, it will serve him later in life


Not all experiences are good, you know. Good can come out of them, but that doesn't make them good in and of themselves.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 12:57 GMT
#167
On August 06 2003 21:56 Ion)Positive wrote:
I don't understand why not being religious means its worth the risk. I mean if your a murderer is it really worth it even if you don't believe it that there is a chance you will suffer forever as a consequence of your actions.. But its still worth it not to live a good and honest life?


Its called Pascal's Wager (acting morally even though you don't believe in religion)
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Imperium
Profile Joined December 2002
United States614 Posts
August 06 2003 13:19 GMT
#168
it's hard to have a serious relationship with a slut
such an oob!! go back to diablo
Ion)Positive
Profile Joined March 2003
Morocco1389 Posts
August 06 2003 13:25 GMT
#169
On August 06 2003 22:19 Imperium wrote:
it's hard to have a serious relationship with a slut

unless your a pimp?
Because everything is nothing and emptiness isnt everything. This reality is really just a fucked up dream with the flesh and the blood that you carve your soul flip it inside out its a big black hole.
bASesinAtOR
Profile Joined November 2002
Bhutan1295 Posts
August 06 2003 13:31 GMT
#170
On August 06 2003 22:25 Ion)Positive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 22:19 Imperium wrote:
it's hard to have a serious relationship with a slut

unless your a pimp?

lol
sike
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 13:35 GMT
#171
Oh wow, convo died pretty quick towards the end, glad i left
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10444 Posts
August 06 2003 13:37 GMT
#172
you only have one life to live.. but you live alot longer without aids
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 13:40 GMT
#173
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
August 06 2003 13:41 GMT
#174
On August 06 2003 15:16 GoSexyPerli wrote:
Big Balls = genious

Muhweli = homo

of course her house's name isnt kate you gay.=[
stop trying to make things hard... just get off battle.net for a week or so and you might see what i mean with this post. And i see more " off the wall" subjects on this forum then the one i made so just stfu

=[


Haha, you're funny. I suppose you should too rethink your life from some points. I mean if you get mad of that house name thingie, you're obviously in a need of relaxing vacation or that sex this whole post is about. If you can't make up your mind whether you want to be with this girl or not, you obviously don't like her enough... If she is known to be what you refer as a "slut", you can still go and try it out. Maybe she'll dump, maybe you will do that to her. You're still young (lol), but can you really claim that you have this what you call "life" if you come to ask Team Liquid Forums whether you should go date with some sexy ass girl who seems to like you at least to some level... I MEAN C'MON!
River me timbers.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
August 06 2003 13:44 GMT
#175
And for the records, I've been off from bnet for like month periods during the last 7 months :D So it's not that ;D
River me timbers.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 13:48 GMT
#176
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
August 06 2003 13:51 GMT
#177
okok, I still don't love u :D Hehe. Although the point of your post is a lil' different, the title might've been chosen better mayb ;D I'm just pointing out the fact that the girl you would like to be with, mayb even more, is referred as a slut by YOU Hehe.

Wish you luck in what ever you decide to do ^^;
River me timbers.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 13:55 GMT
#178
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 13:57 GMT
#179
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
August 06 2003 14:06 GMT
#180
sounds so attractive lol
River me timbers.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 14:11 GMT
#181
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 14:12 GMT
#182
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
IDWIJNI-
Profile Joined February 2003
Mexico332 Posts
August 06 2003 15:41 GMT
#183
Tequila.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 15:56 GMT
#184
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My whole existence is flawed.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 06 2003 16:01 GMT
#185
i didn't read much of this, i stopped when obsoletelogic started making stupid ass posts.

My suggestion: make your pee-pee turn boner, then stick it inside of her.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 16:07:22
August 06 2003 16:06 GMT
#186
First read the name you gave this thread, then read the following:

You're a fucking moron.

Not about whether or not you want to have sex, but the fact that you call this girl a slut. Girls can't want to have sex without you calling them derogatory names? People don't fit that small of a category. Go have sex, but fuck man, why would you call a girl your going to have sex with a slut? It just shows how small minded you are. Besides, your post is more than likely a story anyway. Why did you even need to ask the question, you are 16 and can't decide on your own? Heh. Right.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 16:10 GMT
#187
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 16:14 GMT
#188
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
story
Profile Joined February 2003
148 Posts
August 06 2003 16:30 GMT
#189
you're 16 and only in biology?
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
August 06 2003 16:32 GMT
#190
:D As you described her, sounds like you only want sex of this pretty girl, then go for that :D
River me timbers.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
August 06 2003 16:32 GMT
#191
Mayb you'll save some for us too
River me timbers.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 16:39 GMT
#192
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
August 06 2003 16:46 GMT
#193
On August 07 2003 01:30 story wrote:
you're 16 and only in biology?


you live in the ivory coast and have a computer? come on :[
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 06 2003 16:55 GMT
#194
Smell my hands, they smell like balloons.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
MusiK[WG]
Profile Joined July 2003
United States54 Posts
August 06 2003 17:07 GMT
#195
damn this thread is still runnin...ok fine...do her as many times as u want. If u fall for her and ur heart gets broken, u'll deal with it like many of us have. We all gotta learn about life somehow right? have fun.

And to obsolete Logic i understand everythin ur sayin but this is the wrong crowd or ppl for ur msg. Preach on sir
And about my signature, its not the way i feel about relationships, its how my ex made me see things, i loved her and i was under the impression she loved me too, I was surpriswed when she left me cuz of a little mistake i made, which if u ask anyone that knows me and her, wasn't grounds for breakin up. that is why i came up with that signature. I honestly don't know if there is real love the way shit turned uot with me and her, my signature is sorta lookin at things from her side or a product of what she did to me. i know i'll fall in love with someone else somday and that might be true love...who knows...ok im goin offcourse here so im out...
1
Girls suck for real. 1 advice, never get attached or fall in love with a girl. 99.9 of the time it will come back to haunt u. Be smart do it just for the nookie
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 06 2003 17:10 GMT
#196
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
August 06 2003 17:19 GMT
#197
I want Rekrul to post in this thread, then things will be interesting...
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
August 06 2003 17:25 GMT
#198
My advice to you: wear a condom.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
story
Profile Joined February 2003
148 Posts
August 06 2003 17:54 GMT
#199
gosexyperli , ya u got an awesome argument there
im "owned."

and nuclear, i just picked a random country, i have no idea where ivory coast is.
GuMMiBeAR
Profile Joined March 2003
Sweden564 Posts
August 06 2003 17:56 GMT
#200
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aint that a bitch?
Bl[a]Ze
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada111 Posts
August 06 2003 18:05 GMT
#201
omg u people are sad, why do u come for advice on fucknig tl.net, and if u like her jsut go fuck her, ya shes a slut so who cares man. just do wat u think is right, dont come to people for advice.
I SEE YOU said the blind man to the deaf man -.-V
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 06 2003 19:57 GMT
#202
On August 07 2003 02:19 NeX[CHaP]ReaPeR wrote:
I want Rekrul to post in this thread, then things will be interesting...


I already did.
why so 진지해?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 20:02:14
August 06 2003 20:01 GMT
#203
Obsolete I thought you were gunna stop posting after your little tournament?

Everyone of your ignorance filled posts are annoying :[

I do not judge people by their belief in Christianity + other religions.

But I do judge their intelligence off of those beliefs. You sir, are lacking.


jk;ladsfjdsakl;dfajdsakl;j
why so 진지해?
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 06 2003 20:03 GMT
#204
On August 06 2003 21:48 Vicious)Soul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 21:46 Liquid`Ninja wrote:

I do NOT agree with obsolete logic with almost everything he says, in that... his approach with relationships sounds so politically correct, so right, it's like so respectful I can smell boredom from a mile away!

lol owned..

You need sex to make your life not boring? Sucks to be you
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 06 2003 20:08 GMT
#205
On August 07 2003 01:01 travis wrote:
i didn't read much of this, i stopped when obsoletelogic started making stupid ass posts.

My suggestion: make your pee-pee turn boner, then stick it inside of her.

you're an idiot.
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 20:12:35
August 06 2003 20:11 GMT
#206
I just read the first few post (Obsolete vs BigBalls)the thread is just to big to go on reading

Obsolete: you think you are defending woman yet you fail to see them as human beings ("take advantage of the girl" ) woman are allowed to enjoy meaningless sex, they are allowed to make their own decisions and not everyone needs to "take advantage" of them to have meaningless sex.

GoSexyPerli: You're vision of woman is not that better considering you're are describing that girl as a "slut" because she's "friendly" to other guys, I bet if one of your friends is "friendly" to a lot of girls you'll think of him as a stud and a role model for you...

Bottom line, as long as you don't cheat/mislead the other person to have meaningless sex there's nothing wrong with it, it's fun, it's good for your body and mind
I love mankind, its people I hate
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 06 2003 20:13 GMT
#207
On August 07 2003 05:01 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Obsolete I thought you were gunna stop posting after your little tournament?

Everyone of your ignorance filled posts are annoying :[

I do not judge people by their belief in Christianity + other religions.

But I do judge their intelligence off of those beliefs. You sir, are lacking.


jk;ladsfjdsakl;dfajdsakl;j

If you can't see how he is intelligent then you my good sir are lacking too...
portos
Profile Joined August 2003
Belgium121 Posts
August 06 2003 20:16 GMT
#208
ffs! sex r0x and wearing a condom is stupid!
hello peeps!
Ion)Positive
Profile Joined March 2003
Morocco1389 Posts
August 06 2003 20:21 GMT
#209
Do you _love_ her? If you do then go ahead and do whatever you want with her.
Because everything is nothing and emptiness isnt everything. This reality is really just a fucked up dream with the flesh and the blood that you carve your soul flip it inside out its a big black hole.
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
August 06 2003 20:23 GMT
#210
On August 07 2003 05:21 Ion)Positive wrote:
Do you _love_ her? If you do then go ahead and do whatever you want with her.


he isn't talking about love, he's talking about sex, let's not mix the two
I love mankind, its people I hate
GundamVX
Profile Joined June 2003
United States1025 Posts
August 06 2003 20:23 GMT
#211
I think there's a problem w/ you calling her a 'slut'

Of course you're 16, what would you know? eh? ;P
ProudToBeANoob
Profile Joined July 2003
Thailand54 Posts
August 06 2003 20:24 GMT
#212
there is no girl on this site ? I think a girl's advice could bring more to anybody here than those ceaseless freeposts...
It sounds like...a huge, gargantuan, swollen, bloated mushroom!
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
August 06 2003 20:24 GMT
#213
On August 07 2003 05:24 ProudToBeANoob wrote:
there is no girl on this site ? I think a girl's advice could bring more to anybody here than those ceaseless freeposts...


give me one good reason why
I love mankind, its people I hate
Ion)Positive
Profile Joined March 2003
Morocco1389 Posts
August 06 2003 20:36 GMT
#214
On August 07 2003 05:24 ProudToBeANoob wrote:
there is no girl on this site ? I think a girl's advice could bring more to anybody here than those ceaseless freeposts...

...That was pretty ignorant. There are numerous girls that activly use this forum. Emlary is an example.
Because everything is nothing and emptiness isnt everything. This reality is really just a fucked up dream with the flesh and the blood that you carve your soul flip it inside out its a big black hole.
InSideOut
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada1035 Posts
August 06 2003 22:10 GMT
#215
Do what u think is right sir
RickJSanchez
Profile Joined March 2003
United States1585 Posts
August 06 2003 22:22 GMT
#216
my advice, bone the girl. try and poke her in the butt if possible.
pemos1:have u ever heard of me? RickJSanchez:just from wgtour pemos1:o thats it? lol.RickJSanchez:that about it pemosl:wow :[ pemosl:im pretty known on west
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
August 06 2003 22:27 GMT
#217
On August 07 2003 04:57 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 02:19 NeX[CHaP]ReaPeR wrote:
I want Rekrul to post in this thread, then things will be interesting...


I already did.


My mistake, I found your post, funny.

I personally wouldn't because it would spoil the experience with whoever you end up marrying, because it wouldn't be "special". Also, there is the STD risk.

But I really don't give a shit what you do. Just remember, use the rubber .
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 06 2003 22:30 GMT
#218
Marraige? You loon.
why so 진지해?
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
August 06 2003 22:33 GMT
#219
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
harhar
Profile Joined December 2002
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-06 22:59:55
August 06 2003 22:59 GMT
#220
logic is a pussy. just fuck her. its pussy.
if monkeys can do it then we can too
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 06 2003 23:01 GMT
#221
On August 07 2003 07:59 harhar wrote:

if monkeys can do it then we can too


with you as a sad sad exception
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
August 06 2003 23:06 GMT
#222
On August 07 2003 07:59 harhar wrote:
logic is a pussy. just fuck her. its pussy.
if monkeys can do it then we can too


I'm glad you are trying to reduce us to that level.

If Logic is a pussy you should just fuck him then, maybe you will be kept busy and never make another sorry ass post like that again.
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
harhar
Profile Joined December 2002
United States37 Posts
August 06 2003 23:12 GMT
#223
On August 07 2003 08:06 NeX[CHaP]ReaPeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 07:59 harhar wrote:
logic is a pussy. just fuck her. its pussy.
if monkeys can do it then we can too


I'm glad you are trying to reduce us to that level.

If Logic is a pussy you should just fuck him then, maybe you will be kept busy and never make another sorry ass post like that again.

i would fuck him, but he's too loose
harhar
Profile Joined December 2002
United States37 Posts
August 06 2003 23:13 GMT
#224
btw perli, are u gonna fuck her?
sKyinG
Profile Joined August 2003
4 Posts
August 06 2003 23:42 GMT
#225
where is this all taking place, city/state, sounds like hawaii to me hahah o well, reply is nice just interested
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
August 07 2003 01:28 GMT
#226
On August 07 2003 07:27 NeX[CHaP]ReaPeR wrote:

I personally wouldn't because it would spoil the experience with whoever you end up marrying, because it wouldn't be "special". Also, there is the STD risk.

But I really don't give a shit what you do. Just remember, use the rubber .


Omgh wtf you gotta be kidding! This is 2 0 0 3 and you wanna wait untill you get married?!?!?!? No offence, actually lots of respect for you man but no? If you want to marry virgin you would probably want to marry a virgin as well - well you just eliminated 99.99% of the western women. And STD risk? If you are gonna worry about that all the time - you'll never have any fun

Oh and my advice to thread starter - sex her. use a condom if she is not on the pill. Have fun, and get serious if you want to. You can't play the love game safe, there is always the chance of getting hurt, so are you gonna stay off in fear of getting hurt? Bad idea.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
MaZgOt
Profile Joined April 2003
Australia58 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 02:28:44
August 07 2003 02:27 GMT
#227
If this girl is so friendly then u have to watch out for sexually transmitted diseases... VD, gonnaria etc. (not to mention aids although at that age they havent copped enough roots to get aids).

Make sure u use a condom and make sure she washes her cunt. and also make sure she understands that it's supposed to be a fun relationships. You'll be amazed how bitchy chicks get after they've fucked a guy.. they think they own him or something.. unless of course u do a good job and she likes it so much that she becomes your slave... this is the best. I.E. My best friend's girlfriend told him "I like it when you insult me sometime in front of friends"

WHY ANYONE WOULD SAY THAT IS BEYOND ME.. but then again my friend is a fairly tall long dicked guy... and sex is sex.. so go for it.. seriously... DO U WANK? YES. WOULD SHE FUCK ANOTHER GUY? YES. SO SHE'S FUKCING OTHER GUYS AND YOU'RE WANKING... I'D RATHER REPLACE WANKING WITH FUCKING AND THE "OTHER GUYS" WITH YOU :D
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
August 07 2003 02:36 GMT
#228
On August 07 2003 11:27 MaZgOt wrote:
If this girl is so friendly then u have to watch out for sexually transmitted diseases... VD, gonnaria etc. (not to mention aids although at that age they havent copped enough roots to get aids).

Make sure u use a condom and make sure she washes her cunt. and also make sure she understands that it's supposed to be a fun relationships. You'll be amazed how bitchy chicks get after they've fucked a guy.. they think they own him or something.. unless of course u do a good job and she likes it so much that she becomes your slave... this is the best. I.E. My best friend's girlfriend told him "I like it when you insult me sometime in front of friends"

WHY ANYONE WOULD SAY THAT IS BEYOND ME.. but then again my friend is a fairly tall long dicked guy... and sex is sex.. so go for it.. seriously... DO U WANK? YES. WOULD SHE FUCK ANOTHER GUY? YES. SO SHE'S FUKCING OTHER GUYS AND YOU'RE WANKING... I'D RATHER REPLACE WANKING WITH FUCKING AND THE "OTHER GUYS" WITH YOU :D


you describe this girl as the lowest possible example of a human being just because she sleeps around, yet anyone can see by your post that you would fuck any girl you could find...aren't you the hypocrite
I love mankind, its people I hate
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 07 2003 03:07 GMT
#229
On August 07 2003 11:36 Kobayashi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 11:27 MaZgOt wrote:
If this girl is so friendly then u have to watch out for sexually transmitted diseases... VD, gonnaria etc. (not to mention aids although at that age they havent copped enough roots to get aids).

Make sure u use a condom and make sure she washes her cunt. and also make sure she understands that it's supposed to be a fun relationships. You'll be amazed how bitchy chicks get after they've fucked a guy.. they think they own him or something.. unless of course u do a good job and she likes it so much that she becomes your slave... this is the best. I.E. My best friend's girlfriend told him "I like it when you insult me sometime in front of friends"

WHY ANYONE WOULD SAY THAT IS BEYOND ME.. but then again my friend is a fairly tall long dicked guy... and sex is sex.. so go for it.. seriously... DO U WANK? YES. WOULD SHE FUCK ANOTHER GUY? YES. SO SHE'S FUKCING OTHER GUYS AND YOU'RE WANKING... I'D RATHER REPLACE WANKING WITH FUCKING AND THE "OTHER GUYS" WITH YOU :D


you describe this girl as the lowest possible example of a human being just because she sleeps around, yet anyone can see by your post that you would fuck any girl you could find...aren't you the hypocrite

ooowwwnnneeeedddd =]
Abang_Zealot
Profile Joined June 2003
Indonesia866 Posts
August 07 2003 03:24 GMT
#230
"Omgh wtf you gotta be kidding! This is 2 0 0 3 and you wanna wait untill you get married?!?!?!? No offence, actually lots of respect for you man but no? If you want to marry virgin you would probably want to marry a virgin as well - well you just eliminated 99.99% of the western women. And STD risk? If you are gonna worry about that all the time - you'll never have any fun"

hm.. imo ppl who cant stay virgin till theyre married are weak. not just coz of my religious belief but also anyway there are still plenty of asian women around
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
August 07 2003 03:25 GMT
#231
This will be my last post to this thread because I think it's stupid.
River me timbers.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
August 07 2003 03:42 GMT
#232
On August 07 2003 11:36 Kobayashi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 11:27 MaZgOt wrote:
If this girl is so friendly then u have to watch out for sexually transmitted diseases... VD, gonnaria etc. (not to mention aids although at that age they havent copped enough roots to get aids).

Make sure u use a condom and make sure she washes her cunt. and also make sure she understands that it's supposed to be a fun relationships. You'll be amazed how bitchy chicks get after they've fucked a guy.. they think they own him or something.. unless of course u do a good job and she likes it so much that she becomes your slave... this is the best. I.E. My best friend's girlfriend told him "I like it when you insult me sometime in front of friends"

WHY ANYONE WOULD SAY THAT IS BEYOND ME.. but then again my friend is a fairly tall long dicked guy... and sex is sex.. so go for it.. seriously... DO U WANK? YES. WOULD SHE FUCK ANOTHER GUY? YES. SO SHE'S FUKCING OTHER GUYS AND YOU'RE WANKING... I'D RATHER REPLACE WANKING WITH FUCKING AND THE "OTHER GUYS" WITH YOU :D


you describe this girl as the lowest possible example of a human being just because she sleeps around, yet anyone can see by your post that you would fuck any girl you could find...aren't you the hypocrite


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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
August 07 2003 03:43 GMT
#233
On August 07 2003 12:24 Abang_Zealot wrote:
"Omgh wtf you gotta be kidding! This is 2 0 0 3 and you wanna wait untill you get married?!?!?!? No offence, actually lots of respect for you man but no? If you want to marry virgin you would probably want to marry a virgin as well - well you just eliminated 99.99% of the western women. And STD risk? If you are gonna worry about that all the time - you'll never have any fun"

hm.. imo ppl who cant stay virgin till theyre married are weak. not just coz of my religious belief but also anyway there are still plenty of asian women around


That made less sense than a kender.
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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 05:02:56
August 07 2003 04:56 GMT
#234
Wow, 226 replies in under 24 hours... that's insane O_O.

Anyways, Perli, I can't give any specific advice on what to do with this girl because it would depend mainly on what you'd be looking to "get out of her", so to speak. So depending on what you want, this is what I'd recommend:

- You want a serious and deep relationship of any kind = she isn't for you.
- You want any kind of lasting, long term relationship = nope, not her.
- You want sex but no actual emotional attachment = go for it.
- You want both sex and an emotional attachment as well = depends on how much you want the sex + how little you care about the emotional attachment being mutual.

So basically, she can be summed up like this: the only thing she'll ever give you is sex, and while you might feel an emotional attachment to her, the feeling will never be mutual (since the probability that she might develop actual feelings for you is so low that it's virtually null). Oh, and don't get the pleasure of sexual attraction mixed up with what I refer to as "emotional attraction", even though they're both emotions. When I say "emotional attachment", I'm referring to the kind of attachment that you'd develop with a really close friend, someone that you care about (and hopefully vice-versa). I think that this is also what ObsoleteLogic referred to as "fraternal love". In short, the problem with liking a girl like her is that the feeling will never be mutual. If this isn't a problem for you (which probably means that you're only interested in a relationship for sex), then go right ahead (bearing in mind risks such as STDs or pregnancy, of course). If you're looking for a mutual (in terms of "emotional" or "fraternal" love) relationship, then look somewhere else. Lastly, if you're looking for a mutual relationship but desire for sex is strong enough or too strong, then you'll probably choose to go with it even though you're not going to get a mutual relationship, because the sexual benefit is worth it.

Alright, now that that's taken care of, I'll address another issue raised in this topic: is it right to have sex in this situation? My answer to this question is that it depends almost entirely on the participants' views on sex (with considerations for consequences such as STDs or pregnancy, of course). Since it's already pretty clear that Kate would've wanted to have sex, we'll shift the focus to Perli. In my opinion, whether or not it would have been right for Perli to have sex with Kate depends solely on how he feels about sex. From his replies in this topic, it was pretty clear that he didn't see it as anything special, and so I wrote my reply to his question accordingly. However, if it was Nex[Chap]Reaper asking for advice, then I would have told him to avoid having sex with her, since he would like to save the experience until he can share it with the woman for whom he feels true love and vice-versa. For him, it would bring far more pleasure (on the whole) to wait for the right person than to simply go with whoever comes along.

It's actually quite simple why I believe that there is no absolute right or wrong in this question. Chances are, Perli and almost all of the guys on this forum will be happier having sex whenever the opportunity arises, so why would I tell them that they should wait until they can share it with their soulmate if this won't bring them as much pleasure? It all depends on the person's ethics, how emotional / affected by emotions they are, and their sex drive. This would also determine where they should draw the line in terms of sexual contact. As far as I can tell, that's all there is to it.

... Well, I shouldn't say that yet, as I have yet to address ObsoleteLogic's viewpoint. However, I'm tired and desiring of sleep at the moment, so I'll wait until tomorrow to read over all his posts and formulate an opinion and a reply.

Now, there is one final point which I'd like to address:

Omgh wtf you gotta be kidding! This is 2 0 0 3 and you wanna wait untill you get married?!?!?!? No offence, actually lots of respect for you man but no? If you want to marry virgin you would probably want to marry a virgin as well - well you just eliminated 99.99% of the western women.


Speaking from my point of view (because that comment would apply to myself as well), it is true that such a condition would eliminate "99.99%" (it's not an actual statistic, but it gets the point across) of the western women. But, fortunately, "99.99%" of those women eliminated would also have been eliminated for personality reasons, anyways. In fact, the kind of person that I'm looking for is probably so much of a restriction that it eliminates more western women than the desire to marry a virgin, including virtually all non-virgin women. Furthermore, I've already met several girls (2 online, 1 IRL) who fit the personality requirements very well, and I'm good friends with them all (although the online ones are significantly older and younger than I am and both have boyfriends already, while the one IRL has overly-cautious parents who won't let her be friends with any boy until she's 20, and she's very obedient to them =/). All those women were met within the course of the last couple of years, so there's a good chance that I'll meet even more women that I get along really well with later on. So basically, whatever the percentage of women is with whom I wouldn't have a chance, there's still a good number of women left . And I'm pretty sure that Nex[Chap]Reaper feels the same way about this, too (as well as anyone else who chooses to save sex for when it will mean the most to them).

Well, finally. Now I can go to sleep...

PS: Wait, just a quick note about STDs. Aids, Hepatitis, and Herpes cannot be cured, so if you get stuck with one those, you're stuck with it for life. Then there's Gonnohrea (or however it's spelled) which, as I learned, would require a tool to be inserted up your penis to take a sample of its inner lining to confirm the infection's prescence. In brief, you want to avoid STDs like your life depends on it (and in some cases, it does).
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
August 07 2003 05:25 GMT
#235
On August 07 2003 13:56 Bill307 wrote:
PS: Wait, just a quick note about STDs. Aids, Hepatitis, and Herpes cannot be cured, so if you get stuck with one those, you're stuck with it for life. Then there's Gonnohrea (or however it's spelled) which, as I learned, would require a tool to be inserted up your penis to take a sample of its inner lining to confirm the infection's prescence. In brief, you want to avoid STDs like your life depends on it (and in some cases, it does).


Gonohrrea can now be tested by urine sample. And my stance on STD's is not so good, I know.
I could not care less. I sleep with random girls maybe twice a month average. Most norwegian girls are on the pill, and condoms suck anyway - so why would I care when I'm drunk and she's drunk and we only want to have a good time. I used a condom once in my life. I know so very well the danger of STD's, and how they can ruin my life, but as stated; I could not care less.

That would explain why am not the person to get advice from on this matter
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
August 07 2003 05:28 GMT
#236
Very good post, btw.
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 05:32:23
August 07 2003 05:29 GMT
#237
On August 07 2003 05:01 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Obsolete I thought you were gunna stop posting after your little tournament?

Everyone of your ignorance filled posts are annoying :[

I do not judge people by their belief in Christianity + other religions.

But I do judge their intelligence off of those beliefs. You sir, are lacking.


jk;ladsfjdsakl;dfajdsakl;j



NICE! I love your horrible grammar whilst belittling my intelligence, ye harlequin!

Now, explain to me how old fashioned values are creating a depravity in my intellect? I, unlike some of you, have a brain in addition to a cock; and I figured out which is supposed to be for thinking.

P.S., as for an earlier comment regarding the downfall of the Roman Empire, military service was avoided by young men who sought to enjoy the pleasures of the high life. The army was downsized, not trained as well (leniency in the officers - they came from the same generation as the whiny soldiers, after all), and with a lack of fighting spirit.
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iGgs
Profile Joined April 2003
Russian Federation772 Posts
August 07 2003 06:05 GMT
#238
On August 07 2003 14:29 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 05:01 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Obsolete I thought you were gunna stop posting after your little tournament?

Everyone of your ignorance filled posts are annoying :[

I do not judge people by their belief in Christianity + other religions.

But I do judge their intelligence off of those beliefs. You sir, are lacking.


jk;ladsfjdsakl;dfajdsakl;j





NICE! I love your horrible grammar whilst belittling my intelligence, ye harlequin!

Now, explain to me how old fashioned values are creating a depravity in my intellect? I, unlike some of you, have a brain in addition to a cock; and I figured out which is supposed to be for thinking.

P.S., as for an earlier comment regarding the downfall of the Roman Empire, military service was avoided by young men who sought to enjoy the pleasures of the high life. The army was downsized, not trained as well (leniency in the officers - they came from the same generation as the whiny soldiers, after all), and with a lack of fighting spirit.


(o)h (m)y (g)od stop talking!

(Ban)
SillyCat
Profile Joined May 2003
United States960 Posts
August 07 2003 06:24 GMT
#239
On August 07 2003 13:56 Bill307 wrote:


Anyways, Perli, I can't give any specific advice on what to do with this girl because it would depend mainly on what you'd be looking to "get out of her", so to speak. So depending on what you want, this is what I'd recommend:



Hey girl....what to know a secaret????????OK I WILL TELL IT TO YOU ANDIt is soooooooo gooood to hear it..... I can tell you...How to count allllll de way, to SCHFifty Five
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 07 2003 06:24 GMT
#240
On August 07 2003 14:29 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 05:01 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Obsolete I thought you were gunna stop posting after your little tournament?

Everyone of your ignorance filled posts are annoying :[

I do not judge people by their belief in Christianity + other religions.

But I do judge their intelligence off of those beliefs. You sir, are lacking.


jk;ladsfjdsakl;dfajdsakl;j



NICE! I love your horrible grammar whilst belittling my intelligence, ye harlequin!

Now, explain to me how old fashioned values are creating a depravity in my intellect? I, unlike some of you, have a brain in addition to a cock; and I figured out which is supposed to be for thinking.

P.S., as for an earlier comment regarding the downfall of the Roman Empire, military service was avoided by young men who sought to enjoy the pleasures of the high life. The army was downsized, not trained as well (leniency in the officers - they came from the same generation as the whiny soldiers, after all), and with a lack of fighting spirit.

rekrul got owned
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 07 2003 06:24 GMT
#241
On August 07 2003 15:05 iGgs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 14:29 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
On August 07 2003 05:01 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Obsolete I thought you were gunna stop posting after your little tournament?

Everyone of your ignorance filled posts are annoying :[

I do not judge people by their belief in Christianity + other religions.

But I do judge their intelligence off of those beliefs. You sir, are lacking.


jk;ladsfjdsakl;dfajdsakl;j





NICE! I love your horrible grammar whilst belittling my intelligence, ye harlequin!

Now, explain to me how old fashioned values are creating a depravity in my intellect? I, unlike some of you, have a brain in addition to a cock; and I figured out which is supposed to be for thinking.

P.S., as for an earlier comment regarding the downfall of the Roman Empire, military service was avoided by young men who sought to enjoy the pleasures of the high life. The army was downsized, not trained as well (leniency in the officers - they came from the same generation as the whiny soldiers, after all), and with a lack of fighting spirit.


(o)h (m)y (g)od stop talking!

(Ban)

idiot...
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
August 07 2003 06:41 GMT
#242
[qutoe]Then there's Gonnohrea (or however it's spelled) which, as I learned, would require a tool to be inserted up your penis to take a sample of its inner lining to confirm the infection's prescence.[/quote]

that's how you did it in the good old days but not anymore
iGgs
Profile Joined April 2003
Russian Federation772 Posts
August 07 2003 06:41 GMT
#243
On August 07 2003 15:24 Vharon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 15:05 iGgs wrote:
On August 07 2003 14:29 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
On August 07 2003 05:01 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Obsolete I thought you were gunna stop posting after your little tournament?

Everyone of your ignorance filled posts are annoying :[

I do not judge people by their belief in Christianity + other religions.

But I do judge their intelligence off of those beliefs. You sir, are lacking.


jk;ladsfjdsakl;dfajdsakl;j





NICE! I love your horrible grammar whilst belittling my intelligence, ye harlequin!

Now, explain to me how old fashioned values are creating a depravity in my intellect? I, unlike some of you, have a brain in addition to a cock; and I figured out which is supposed to be for thinking.

P.S., as for an earlier comment regarding the downfall of the Roman Empire, military service was avoided by young men who sought to enjoy the pleasures of the high life. The army was downsized, not trained as well (leniency in the officers - they came from the same generation as the whiny soldiers, after all), and with a lack of fighting spirit.


(o)h (m)y (g)od stop talking!

(Ban)

idiot...


no
Staind
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada59 Posts
August 07 2003 07:00 GMT
#244
Going out with someone just for sex is pretty low.
I love you all!
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
August 07 2003 07:07 GMT
#245
On August 07 2003 16:00 Staind wrote:
Going out with someone just for sex is pretty low.


fucking good friends. not unusual at all. and as long as both agree on the concept, why not?
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 07 2003 07:12 GMT
#246
With my 666th post, from the bowels of hell, i demand you to fuck this girl. Fuck her fuck her fuck her fuck her until she cant walk. Fuck her all night long, fuck her fuck her over and over and over again

The devil commands you to

That is all
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 07:24:11
August 07 2003 07:22 GMT
#247
On August 07 2003 16:00 Staind wrote:
Going out with someone just for sex is pretty low.


why oh why can't a girl be interested in "going out just for sex"? it's not "low" wanting to have sex, what's low is deceiving someone in order to have sex, to put sex in front of other things that should have priority in your life, now that's "thinking with your cock" like obsolete said, that is not however what is being discussed.
I love mankind, its people I hate
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
August 07 2003 07:35 GMT
#248
if kate was 25 it would be reasonable to just have some sex. im assuming kate is 16. that is not reasonable.
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 07:40:31
August 07 2003 07:39 GMT
#249
On August 07 2003 16:35 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
if kate was 25 it would be reasonable to just have some sex. im assuming kate is 16. that is not reasonable.


actually I think a person at 25 is probably thinking about a more serious relationship, planning your future with someone...I think you get my point. At 16/17/18 it's much more reasonable to just have sex, enjoy your youth, etc etc
just my opinion
I love mankind, its people I hate
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
August 07 2003 07:40 GMT
#250
im thinking along the lines of mauturity levels. a 16 year old girl that is already sleeping around probably has some emotional issues. i dont think it is best to add to that problem.
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
August 07 2003 07:42 GMT
#251
On August 07 2003 16:40 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
im thinking along the lines of mauturity levels. a 16 year old girl that is already sleeping around probably has some emotional issues. i dont think it is best to add to that problem.


...actually, yeah..16 is pretty young, but hey he's 16 too and I don't see anyone saying he has emotional issues because he want's to sleep with her (even though girls mature a lot faster than man, so he is even more imature than she is...)
I love mankind, its people I hate
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
August 07 2003 07:44 GMT
#252
On August 07 2003 16:40 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
im thinking along the lines of mauturity levels. a 16 year old girl that is already sleeping around probably has some emotional issues. i dont think it is best to add to that problem.


Maybe she enjoys it? I could could probably find ten 16 year old girls who enjoys sex just for the sex - by tomorrow.

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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 07 2003 07:44 GMT
#253
On August 07 2003 14:29 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 05:01 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Obsolete I thought you were gunna stop posting after your little tournament?

Everyone of your ignorance filled posts are annoying :[

I do not judge people by their belief in Christianity + other religions.

But I do judge their intelligence off of those beliefs. You sir, are lacking.


jk;ladsfjdsakl;dfajdsakl;j



NICE! I love your horrible grammar whilst belittling my intelligence, ye harlequin!

Now, explain to me how old fashioned values are creating a depravity in my intellect? I, unlike some of you, have a brain in addition to a cock; and I figured out which is supposed to be for thinking.

P.S., as for an earlier comment regarding the downfall of the Roman Empire, military service was avoided by young men who sought to enjoy the pleasures of the high life. The army was downsized, not trained as well (leniency in the officers - they came from the same generation as the whiny soldiers, after all), and with a lack of fighting spirit.


All I'm saying is that if you believe in one of those religions there is something wrong with your brain : - ).
why so 진지해?
C)R
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada549 Posts
August 07 2003 07:47 GMT
#254
On August 07 2003 16:40 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
im thinking along the lines of mauturity levels. a 16 year old girl that is already sleeping around probably has some emotional issues. i dont think it is best to add to that problem.


agreed, that is why any real relationship should be avoided. You don't see many long term relationships starting at 16 anyway. Take advantage, have sex once or twice and move on.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3470 Posts
August 07 2003 08:03 GMT
#255
I havent read the whole thread, since the arguments repeat too often to be worth reading, but as long as you are just two persons physically attracted two each other why for gods sake would you ignore it?
From what i read in your posts you dont have a serious crush on that girl but just like her and her looks. It would be rather stupid to look for a serious relationship with that girl, but it would also be stupid not to do what you both want if you dont care that she will most probably do it with other guys too.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 08:04:41
August 07 2003 08:04 GMT
#256
On August 07 2003 16:44 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 14:29 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
On August 07 2003 05:01 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Obsolete I thought you were gunna stop posting after your little tournament?

Everyone of your ignorance filled posts are annoying :[

I do not judge people by their belief in Christianity + other religions.

But I do judge their intelligence off of those beliefs. You sir, are lacking.


jk;ladsfjdsakl;dfajdsakl;j



NICE! I love your horrible grammar whilst belittling my intelligence, ye harlequin!

Now, explain to me how old fashioned values are creating a depravity in my intellect? I, unlike some of you, have a brain in addition to a cock; and I figured out which is supposed to be for thinking.

P.S., as for an earlier comment regarding the downfall of the Roman Empire, military service was avoided by young men who sought to enjoy the pleasures of the high life. The army was downsized, not trained as well (leniency in the officers - they came from the same generation as the whiny soldiers, after all), and with a lack of fighting spirit.


All I'm saying is that if you believe in one of those religions there is something wrong with your brain : - ).


or hes just afraid of death to the point where it controls his life, aka something wrong with his brain :[

love you obso
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
GundamVX
Profile Joined June 2003
United States1025 Posts
August 07 2003 08:15 GMT
#257
On August 07 2003 16:44 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 14:29 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
On August 07 2003 05:01 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Obsolete I thought you were gunna stop posting after your little tournament?

Everyone of your ignorance filled posts are annoying :[

I do not judge people by their belief in Christianity + other religions.

But I do judge their intelligence off of those beliefs. You sir, are lacking.


jk;ladsfjdsakl;dfajdsakl;j



NICE! I love your horrible grammar whilst belittling my intelligence, ye harlequin!

Now, explain to me how old fashioned values are creating a depravity in my intellect? I, unlike some of you, have a brain in addition to a cock; and I figured out which is supposed to be for thinking.

P.S., as for an earlier comment regarding the downfall of the Roman Empire, military service was avoided by young men who sought to enjoy the pleasures of the high life. The army was downsized, not trained as well (leniency in the officers - they came from the same generation as the whiny soldiers, after all), and with a lack of fighting spirit.


All I'm saying is that if you believe in one of those religions there is something wrong with your brain : - ).


Insulting someone because they believe in a certain religion (or any religion) doesn't make you look any smarter

:-0
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 07 2003 08:17 GMT
#258
It's not an insult. It's a fact :O
why so 진지해?
iGgs
Profile Joined April 2003
Russian Federation772 Posts
August 07 2003 08:21 GMT
#259
what is the term applied when someone believes there is a god but has no religion
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 08:26:33
August 07 2003 08:25 GMT
#260
On August 07 2003 17:21 iGgs wrote:
what is the term applied when someone believes there is a god but has no religion


stupid

edit: thats not nice. ill amend it.

naive
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
August 07 2003 08:27 GMT
#261
On August 06 2003 16:50 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
All guys are sluts, why can't girls be?


Basically, it's a "cheap sperm, expensive eggs" reason. Guys can be as slutty as they want but they'll never get pregenant and have to care for a kid for 15 (and in Rekrul's case 25 years).
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
August 07 2003 08:41 GMT
#262
On August 07 2003 17:27 sword_siege wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 16:50 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
All guys are sluts, why can't girls be?


Basically, it's a "cheap sperm, expensive eggs" reason. Guys can be as slutty as they want but they'll never get pregenant and have to care for a kid for 15 (and in Rekrul's case 25 years).


you are soooooooo lucky I'm not an admin here...
I love mankind, its people I hate
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 07 2003 08:43 GMT
#263
On August 07 2003 17:21 iGgs wrote:
what is the term applied when someone believes there is a god but has no religion


The closest to that is Agnostic. That is where you acknowledge there could or couldn't be a god, but you have no way of knowing because all humans are incapable of understanding or knowing about higher powers.
why so 진지해?
iGgs
Profile Joined April 2003
Russian Federation772 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 09:15:39
August 07 2003 09:01 GMT
#264
oh ok

i fall under that catagory.
expostfacto
Profile Joined December 2002
United States365 Posts
August 07 2003 09:44 GMT
#265
deism and theism are both closer to believing in god but not organized religion
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TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
August 07 2003 10:29 GMT
#266
i suppose the issues is not the ethics of sex, but rather or not he should get into a relationship. he already kinda likes this chick, so the idea that he can get more involved, but not get more involved, is kind of rediculous. in the end her "loose" ways will hurt him, therefor i think he should stay away.
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 10:37:32
August 07 2003 10:36 GMT
#267
Just because she likes sex she's incapable of maintaing a long relationship and doesn't deserve to be loved? Well then 95% of all man fall into that category too.
I love mankind, its people I hate
Daniel
Profile Joined April 2003
United States20 Posts
August 07 2003 10:41 GMT
#268

is it ok to like a slut?


You have already announced by your own thread topic that you admit it would be immoral, as the word 'slut' in the first place has that negative connotation attached to it. You apparently aren't interested in discussing morality, but rather looking for thumbs up from the penis gallery. So then, "is it ok" doesn't really mean anything other than a subjective preference claim, so, to answer the question, who cares.
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
August 07 2003 11:27 GMT
#269
Rek what religion are you? Agnostic?
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Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 07 2003 12:19 GMT
#270
agnostics are atheists too afraid to admit they don't believe in God and want to keep the option of believing in God open in case there is in fact a hell

expo's right, people who believe in God but don't have religion are just deists

why the hell is this thread still here and why the hell am I still talking? the kid's probably already fucked the girl 10 times over...
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 07 2003 12:21 GMT
#271
On August 07 2003 17:27 sword_siege wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2003 16:50 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
All guys are sluts, why can't girls be?


Basically, it's a "cheap sperm, expensive eggs" reason. Guys can be as slutty as they want but they'll never get pregenant and have to care for a kid for 15 (and in Rekrul's case 25 years).


Excessive retard policy plz?
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
August 07 2003 12:22 GMT
#272
On August 07 2003 21:21 Vicious)Soul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2003 17:27 sword_siege wrote:
On August 06 2003 16:50 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
All guys are sluts, why can't girls be?


Basically, it's a "cheap sperm, expensive eggs" reason. Guys can be as slutty as they want but they'll never get pregenant and have to care for a kid for 15 (and in Rekrul's case 25 years).


Excessive retard policy plz?


I love mankind, its people I hate
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 07 2003 12:25 GMT
#273
Kobayshi, you've been doin a pretty good job keeping the morons at bay at this post...good job
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
August 07 2003 12:30 GMT
#274
On August 07 2003 19:36 Kobayashi wrote:
Just because she likes sex she's incapable of maintaing a long relationship and doesn't deserve to be loved? Well then 95% of all man fall into that category too.


i said nothing of this sort.. im giving advice directly about perli, and am being age specific. and yes many men are "sluts", but ask any decent woman what they think of those men...
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
Element)LoGiC
Profile Joined July 2003
Canada1143 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 17:19:41
August 07 2003 12:48 GMT
#275
ObseleteLogic, think with your brain, not with your religion. Good morals. I thought the same way, even when i first didn't believe in god. But think of it this way, if she's willing to have sex and is not intoxicated, she is therefore allowing herself to become and object.
But then again, even if you want her for different reasons, she's still an object. Sex is among thousands of other things that you could say "objectify" a person. If you find a nice girl, and you like this kindness, then isn't she an object in the same way?
She could have said "no" and nothing would happen, or she could take these boys to her room and let them feel her up( oh wait, that's what she did). Stop being a pussy. You want to deny a person of their natural human wants? Go ahead, with yourself. Your going to be an interesting person when you grow up.

As for perli, only you truly know this girl. Only you can make a decision. You can take all the advice you want, but your only gonna hear what you wanna hear. So your decision is already made. Have sex with the girl, get some experience, and live your life they way you want to.
GGoroDaimon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States22 Posts
August 07 2003 12:53 GMT
#276
give her what she wants. but don't make her *own* you (controlling you like a puppet).

i don't think obsolete can think about all that he said in this forum if he was in perli's shoes that night (drunk+willing women)

:D
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
August 07 2003 13:38 GMT
#277
I AM GOD AND HERE'S MY PICTURE
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 07 2003 16:49 GMT
#278
On August 07 2003 19:41 Daniel wrote:
Show nested quote +

is it ok to like a slut?


You have already announced by your own thread topic that you admit it would be immoral, as the word 'slut' in the first place has that negative connotation attached to it. You apparently aren't interested in discussing morality, but rather looking for thumbs up from the penis gallery. So then, "is it ok" doesn't really mean anything other than a subjective preference claim, so, to answer the question, who cares.

Agreed. Dont think with your dick, please.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 07 2003 19:43 GMT
#279
On August 07 2003 21:48 Element)LoGiC wrote:
ObseleteLogic, think with your brain, not with your religion. Good morals. I thought the same way, even when i first didn't believe in god. But think of it this way, if she's willing to have sex and is not intoxicated, she is therefore allowing herself to become and object.
But then again, even if you want her for different reasons, she's still an object. Sex is among thousands of other things that you could say "objectify" a person. If you find a nice girl, and you like this kindness, then isn't she an object in the same way?
She could have said "no" and nothing would happen, or she could take these boys to her room and let them feel her up( oh wait, that's what she did). Stop being a pussy. You want to deny a person of their natural human wants? Go ahead, with yourself. Your going to be an interesting person when you grow up.


Just because someone is willing or desires to do something doesn't make it right. It will be hard to continue this discussion without delving into theology, but I will do my best (thats a topic you really can't argue with someone who doesn't have a real interest in it).

What you are suggesting is that we, as humans, should give in to our baser instincts with a mild moral guideline (namely, that of consent). RE: Objectification. Kindness - sure, you can abuse it, but if you like a girl for her kindness, thats admiration, rather than objectification (please don't start arguing semantics; look up the words if you need clarification on the difference between the two). An object is something we use to benefit ourselves in some manner. Love is giving our will over to service for another (not in slave-like manner; doing what is in their best interest).


Rekrul: I guess all those brilliant people who spent their lives researching religion had things wrong with their brains, too. Obviously you're smarter than Aquinas, Augustine, Ambrose, C.S. Lewis, G. K. Chesterton, and so many, many others. It's a shame they're all dead; I'd love to see you in a debate with any of them.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 07 2003 20:11 GMT
#280
Brilliance and ignorance often go hand in hand :-).

Not in your case though, you're just a moron who tries to sound smart! : - )
why so 진지해?
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
August 07 2003 20:18 GMT
#281
Obsolete you don't objectify a woman in order to have pleasure, you have pleasure with her, or if you prefer, you objectify her and she objectifies you. As long as it's consensual and you and the girl are both aware of the consequences of your actions I really don't understand why you shouldn't do it. You play bw,why? because it's fun,pure and simple, you are not objectifying the other player in a 1v1,you are not using him,why try to make sex look like such a complicated thing,it isn't! you can of course bring std's into discussion but then again...everything in your life involves risk you can never be completly safe as you can't deny yourself everything in order to maintain this safety.

"What you are suggesting is that we, as humans, should give in to our baser instincts" give in? the question you have to ask yourself is why not, why should you fight it?
I love mankind, its people I hate
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 07 2003 21:01 GMT
#282
Just a thought guys...

There's a difference between being a man and being a male.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 07 2003 21:03 GMT
#283
Only if you're homosexual.
why so 진지해?
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 07 2003 21:04 GMT
#284
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 07 2003 21:12 GMT
#285
On August 08 2003 06:03 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Only if you're homosexual.

rofl
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 07 2003 21:12 GMT
#286
On August 08 2003 05:11 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
Brilliance and ignorance often go hand in hand :-).

Not in your case though, you're just a moron who tries to sound smart! : - )

it's better than saying "FUCK HER MAN! FUCKER HER!!!!!" and sounding like an idot don't you think?
ProudToBeANoob
Profile Joined July 2003
Thailand54 Posts
August 07 2003 21:36 GMT
#287
it will turn into a religious debate, what i felt coming from the first page...And like with every religious debate, proselytism will occur...

agnosticism is not 'to believe in God but without being involved in any religion" but "to think that any metaphysics is pointless"...Totally different !
It sounds like...a huge, gargantuan, swollen, bloated mushroom!
StoneR
Profile Joined April 2003
Spain1252 Posts
August 07 2003 21:38 GMT
#288
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StoneR
Profile Joined April 2003
Spain1252 Posts
August 07 2003 21:40 GMT
#289
lol rekrul i truly agree.

homosexuals sux. go fuck boyz life is about havin fun
StoneR
Profile Joined April 2003
Spain1252 Posts
August 07 2003 21:41 GMT
#290
kobayashi is right^^
doCrepuS
Profile Joined August 2003
Cook Islands28 Posts
August 07 2003 21:45 GMT
#291
I have no idea why people say it's wrong to fuck. The fucking is consentual, and both parties involved will gain pleasure from it. Therefore, it is better to fuck. I don't even know why people are debating this in the first place, but if you believe otherwise you are simply wrong.
Which is worse, WCG maps or the Caro-Kann defense? A great conundrum
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 07 2003 21:49 GMT
#292
On August 08 2003 06:45 doCrepuS wrote:
but if you believe otherwise you are simply wrong.

Here is the mentality that makes debating on these forums totally pointless.
doCrepuS
Profile Joined August 2003
Cook Islands28 Posts
August 07 2003 21:58 GMT
#293
On August 06 2003 18:47 Lockdown- wrote:
Obsolete Logic i admire your morals and values


i completly agree


HOW THE FUCK IS IT MORAL TO DENY YOURSELF AND SOMEONE ELSE PLEASURE? Here, I'll make analogy for your small and simple brain:
A guy goes out and buys dinner for his family. When he returns home, instead of spreading the food on the table so everybody can have a happy and tasty dining experience, he throws it in the garbage can. Is that moral? No, and neither is not fucking somebody who you want to fuck and wants to be fucked.

On August 06 2003 15:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Stupid, stupid, and uh... stupid. I know I'm in the extreme minority on this forum, being a conservative, but for god's sake... can't you people keep it in your pants? Think with your head, not with your cock. Not with BigBalls cock, either. By "take advantage of it", he really means, "take advantage of her." If you're going to have cheap, meaningless sex, find a prostitute. That way you're only inflicting idiocy on yourself.


Stop trying to act like you're superior to all of us. You have not given any reason at all why not fucking is "moral" and "smart". If the fucking is consentual, it has nothing to do with "taking advantage of somebody". Your name sums up your conservative philosophy well - it is based on religion, and is thus obsolete and ultimately flawed.
Which is worse, WCG maps or the Caro-Kann defense? A great conundrum
MyztiC`Terran
Profile Joined August 2003
United States374 Posts
August 07 2003 21:58 GMT
#294


Its alright I guess. If you catch her then kick her ass
doCrepuS
Profile Joined August 2003
Cook Islands28 Posts
August 07 2003 21:59 GMT
#295
On August 08 2003 06:49 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2003 06:45 doCrepuS wrote:
but if you believe otherwise you are simply wrong.

Here is the mentality that makes debating on these forums totally pointless.


well I gave my reasons before I stated that. And I do think that obsolete is wrong. So?
Which is worse, WCG maps or the Caro-Kann defense? A great conundrum
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 22:06:47
August 07 2003 22:05 GMT
#296
You didn't understand me clearly deCrepuS.

Although I do agree with Obsolete, that wasn't the point of that post. I was simply pointing out that when somebody says "but if you believe otherwise you are simply wrong." it usually implies a sense of ignorance. And with that type of attitude, you'll get nowhere by debating with them.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 07 2003 22:12 GMT
#297
On August 08 2003 06:36 ProudToBeANoob wrote:
it will turn into a religious debate, what i felt coming from the first page...And like with every religious debate, proselytism will occur...

<b>agnosticism is not 'to believe in God but without being involved in any religion"</b> but "to think that any metaphysics is pointless"...Totally different !


No one ever said that. Thanks for clearing up the lack of a misconception.
why so 진지해?
doCrepuS
Profile Joined August 2003
Cook Islands28 Posts
August 07 2003 22:36 GMT
#298
On August 08 2003 07:05 Klogon wrote:
You didn't understand me clearly deCrepuS.

Although I do agree with Obsolete, that wasn't the point of that post. I was simply pointing out that when somebody says "but if you believe otherwise you are simply wrong." it usually implies a sense of ignorance. And with that type of attitude, you'll get nowhere by debating with them.


what's so ignorant about saying obsolete is wrong? I know what he's saying, and I think its fucking stupid. I presented my reasons already, and I fail to see how my attitude will be detrimental to arguing my point. jesus kjs
Which is worse, WCG maps or the Caro-Kann defense? A great conundrum
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 07 2003 22:42 GMT
#299
doCrepus

If you're going to bother to argue a point at least do it in a way that doesn't make you look like a bigotted retard. I saw your point and it's the same one that's being made by half the idiots out here, if you had just said it calmly instead of being an asshole about it, we might have listened to you.
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
GundamVX
Profile Joined June 2003
United States1025 Posts
August 07 2003 23:05 GMT
#300
On August 08 2003 06:40 Stonerx wrote:
lol rekrul i truly agree.

homosexuals sux. go fuck boyz life is about havin fun


And the closet homosexual makes a COMING OUT STATEMENT!!

We have a WINNER :D :D :D :D
collegeBored
Profile Joined November 2002
United States1524 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-07 23:49:58
August 07 2003 23:47 GMT
#301
On August 06 2003 15:03 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Stupid, stupid, and uh... stupid. I know I'm in the extreme minority on this forum, being a conservative, but for god's sake... can't you people keep it in your pants? Think with your head, not with your cock. Not with BigBalls cock, either. By "take advantage of it", he really means, "take advantage of her." If you're going to have cheap, meaningless sex, find a prostitute. That way you're only inflicting idiocy on yourself.


cant agree more, but thats just me,

To the original post: if u dont really like her and its purely physical go for it, enjoy yourself. if its more of emotional invovlement dont, ull regret it later
The stupid neither forgive nor forget, the naive forgive and forget, the wise forgive but never forget.
ProudToBeANoob
Profile Joined July 2003
Thailand54 Posts
August 08 2003 02:58 GMT
#302
[ /QUOTE]Rekrul wrote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On August 07 2003 17:21 iGgs wrote:
what is the term applied when someone believes there is a god but has no religion
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



The closest to that is Agnostic.
[ /QUOTE]

it's not even close, that was just my point, but finally, who cares, it's freepost-time anyway...

otherwise, what a nice oxymoron that "brillance and ignorance often goes hand in hand" :D you may have wanted to mention 'culture' instead of 'brillance', what i take for 'intelligence' there...
but finally, who cares, it's freepost-time anyway...2 the come-back !
It sounds like...a huge, gargantuan, swollen, bloated mushroom!
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 08 2003 04:13 GMT
#303
On August 08 2003 07:36 doCrepuS wrote:
what's so ignorant about saying obsolete is wrong? I know what he's saying, and I think its fucking stupid. I presented my reasons already, and I fail to see how my attitude will be detrimental to arguing my point. jesus kjs

sigh

nevermind
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
August 08 2003 05:39 GMT
#304
guys ,forget girls

Play BW
Wizzra
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands514 Posts
August 08 2003 05:56 GMT
#305
Ignorant ppl like Rekrul and doCrepus should stay out of any discussion t_T


I disagree with obsolete's vision btw..
The responsibility of tolerance lies in those who have the wider vision.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 08 2003 06:18 GMT
#306
On August 08 2003 05:18 Kobayashi wrote:
Obsolete you don't objectify a woman in order to have pleasure, you have pleasure with her, or if you prefer, you objectify her and she objectifies you. As long as it's consensual and you and the girl are both aware of the consequences of your actions I really don't understand why you shouldn't do it. You play bw,why? because it's fun,pure and simple, you are not objectifying the other player in a 1v1,you are not using him,why try to make sex look like such a complicated thing,it isn't! you can of course bring std's into discussion but then again...everything in your life involves risk you can never be completly safe as you can't deny yourself everything in order to maintain this safety.

"What you are suggesting is that we, as humans, should give in to our baser instincts" give in? the question you have to ask yourself is why not, why should you fight it?



You just equated sex, the most intimate physical action any two people can perform, to BW. Somehow, I mark quite a distinction between physical intimacy and a computer game. This is just an example of how desensitized the world has become.

Honestly, your post sickens me. Why not resist baser instincts? Well if I didn't, I'd be bashing your head in with a 9-iron right about now. Go to the Zoo, look at the monkeys and the baboons. The ability to overcome our instincts is what keeps us above them.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
MrEd
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia357 Posts
August 08 2003 07:19 GMT
#307
But why restrict yourself for the sake of risking yourself? To prove you are better than monkeys? Surely at times I agree that one must restrict the inner animalistic instincts that we humans have due to moral/social/ethical or other reasons. But if nothings holding either of the parties back then, go for it.

Pretty much if she bending over...give it to her. But dont force her to bend over.
My cats breath smells like cat food
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 08 2003 07:22 GMT
#308
Mr Ed, do you think Euthanasia is proper?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 08 2003 07:32 GMT
#309
On August 08 2003 16:19 MrEd wrote:
But why restrict yourself for the sake of risking yourself? To prove you are better than monkeys? Surely at times I agree that one must restrict the inner animalistic instincts that we humans have due to moral/social/ethical or other reasons. But if nothings holding either of the parties back then, go for it.

Pretty much if she bending over...give it to her. But dont force her to bend over.


since you bring in so much irrelevant outside shit obso i might as well do the same.

freud basically said the more civilized we get, the more unhappy we become. People have basic urges which civilization forces us to repress. The further we get towards being totally civilized (perfect morals) the more unhappy we will be.

By holding back the things we want to do, we build up guilt. People feel guilty for things they think. Example: I have sex with your sister. You are angry, want to kill me. You then realize murder is wrong, and feel guilty for thinking such an awful thing. This guilt creates unhappiness. If there were no laws preventing murder, you would shoot me twice in the head and think nothing of it.

As ive said, the driving force behind things in life is happiness. By restricting ourselves we make ourselves more unhappy, thus detracting from what we are trying to achieve. By upholding strong morals, all one is doing is living in fear of a god who he believes will strike down upon him for living without inhibition.

all this really boils down to is a religion argument, and then into subdivisions of how strict the religion is etc. And since everyone should be agnostic (because there is no proof of the existence or non existence of god), then the argument could go on ad infinitum.

So lets just call it quits.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 08 2003 07:43 GMT
#310
First of all, Freud was a bit borderline. Many reports of him having severe sexual perversion, though I don't know too much so, I wont say too much.

Unhappiness from self-reservation only comes so long as you're still focusing on the thing you've restricted yourself from. Good can come from everything, if we let it. To use your example, I could hold on to the thought of, "Oh man, I really want to kill that sonofabitch, but murder is wrong... grr!" Or, the sensible thing, "Well I can't kill him, that'd be wrong, so maybe he'll turn his life around. And maybe it'll wake up my sister."

Furthermore, you really showed your ignorance of a religious point of view, which I won't get into for my aforementioned reasons. As for God's existence, there isn't what you call "proof", though there is an awful lot of logic. If you're interested I have a link to these arguments, but I won't bring them into the forum.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 08 2003 07:49 GMT
#311
being agnostic is the admittal that you can neither prove nor disprove the existence of god. this is the only completely true religion. everything else is a belief.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 08 2003 07:55 GMT
#312
Agnostic all the way baby.
why so 진지해?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28642 Posts
August 08 2003 07:58 GMT
#313
I consider myself atheist simply because if there is a god, I want to die so I can join satan's minions in hell.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 08 2003 08:01 GMT
#314
LZozLZOLZZOlollolOLLolOL
why so 진지해?
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 08 2003 08:03 GMT
#315
rofl
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
StoneR
Profile Joined April 2003
Spain1252 Posts
August 08 2003 08:13 GMT
#316
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GundamVX
Profile Joined June 2003
United States1025 Posts
August 08 2003 09:31 GMT
#317
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Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
August 08 2003 09:42 GMT
#318
Obsolete, I'm going to agree with rekrul here,you're just another idiot I won't argue with you anymore.

I love mankind, its people I hate
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-08 11:09:04
August 08 2003 11:03 GMT
#319
GUYS STFU

this post became absolutely worthless about 14 pages ago, and now it's just an oppurtunity for everyone to show their own stupidity

I changed my mind, this post was worthless from the moment it was started
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
August 08 2003 11:17 GMT
#320
you're right, close this thread its getting gay (or already is)
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
August 08 2003 12:27 GMT
#321
people have problems staying on topic.. talking about the ethics of sexuality in religion and philosphy. the real issue is wheather or not it is wise to get into a relationship with someone who has a colorful past. i dont think the question really had anything to do with him sleeping with the girl or not.. im sure shes not the only easy booty out there. at 16, i dont think that he or she, would have the maturity to deal with such issues( no offense perli). getting into such a relation ship is destined for disaster. besides, perli already called the girl a slut, and im sure he doesnt even know the extent of it, so i doubt there will ever be any respect there in the first place.
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
Imperium
Profile Joined December 2002
United States614 Posts
August 08 2003 12:30 GMT
#322
On August 08 2003 16:32 BigBalls wrote:
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On August 08 2003 16:19 MrEd wrote:
But why restrict yourself for the sake of risking yourself? To prove you are better than monkeys? Surely at times I agree that one must restrict the inner animalistic instincts that we humans have due to moral/social/ethical or other reasons. But if nothings holding either of the parties back then, go for it.

Pretty much if she bending over...give it to her. But dont force her to bend over.


since you bring in so much irrelevant outside shit obso i might as well do the same.

freud basically said the more civilized we get, the more unhappy we become. People have basic urges which civilization forces us to repress. The further we get towards being totally civilized (perfect morals) the more unhappy we will be.

By holding back the things we want to do, we build up guilt. People feel guilty for things they think. Example: I have sex with your sister. You are angry, want to kill me. You then realize murder is wrong, and feel guilty for thinking such an awful thing. This guilt creates unhappiness. If there were no laws preventing murder, you would shoot me twice in the head and think nothing of it.

As ive said, the driving force behind things in life is happiness. By restricting ourselves we make ourselves more unhappy, thus detracting from what we are trying to achieve. By upholding strong morals, all one is doing is living in fear of a god who he believes will strike down upon him for living without inhibition.

all this really boils down to is a religion argument, and then into subdivisions of how strict the religion is etc. And since everyone should be agnostic (because there is no proof of the existence or non existence of god), then the argument could go on ad infinitum.

So lets just call it quits.


didn't he also say that dreaming of flying is equivalent to having sex with your mother?

maybe I'm thinking of someone else
such an oob!! go back to diablo
CHN_Danger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States66 Posts
August 08 2003 12:30 GMT
#323
You fucked up yo. If it wuz me and I was drunk. I woulda left that morning knowing i fucked both those bitches
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-08 12:49:22
August 08 2003 12:49 GMT
#324
omg, just close topic, this is getting stupid...
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 08 2003 13:16 GMT
#325
On August 08 2003 16:32 BigBalls wrote:
freud basically said the more civilized we get, the more unhappy we become.

happiness is a choice
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 08 2003 14:59 GMT
#326
On August 08 2003 21:30 CHN_Danger wrote:
You fucked up yo. If it wuz me and I was drunk. I woulda left that morning knowing i fucked both those bitches


The ignorant should not speak... not that that statement is directed at anyone or anything...
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 08 2003 15:02 GMT
#327
btw, vharon's right, this thread is retarded and should be closed. I'm only here cuz I'm bored and trying to amuse myself by flaming the excessively stupid people
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 08 2003 15:09 GMT
#328
This thread was fine before it became, "You're an idiot! Yeah. Idiot! Moron! You're different than me, idiot!"

):

sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
bASesinAtOR
Profile Joined November 2002
Bhutan1295 Posts
August 08 2003 15:14 GMT
#329
just letting everyone know that this thread has went on for FAR too long
sike
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10540 Posts
August 08 2003 15:16 GMT
#330
and u just made it a lil bit more.
Im back, in pog form!
iGgs
Profile Joined April 2003
Russian Federation772 Posts
August 08 2003 15:46 GMT
#331
weezer is own
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 08 2003 15:52 GMT
#332
I like Pie.

Get away from my pie
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 08 2003 15:52 GMT
#333
listening to a weezer song is wasting 5 mins of your life
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 08 2003 15:53 GMT
#334
On August 08 2003 16:32 BigBalls wrote:
freud basically said the more civilized we get, the more unhappy we become.


Freud wanted his mother
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 08 2003 15:54 GMT
#335
Can't blame him, Freud's mom was a looker :O
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 08 2003 16:50 GMT
#336
On August 09 2003 00:09 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
This thread was fine before it became, "You're an idiot! Yeah. Idiot! Moron! You're different than me, idiot!"

):


Yeah, obsolete is right. The discusiion was fine before people starting flaming obsolete.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-08 17:44:17
August 08 2003 17:06 GMT
#337
Better make my last reply before this gets closed =/.

BigBalls: I totally disagree with your post about what Freud said (and consequently Freud himself). First of all, if you did something that strongly angered me, my thought process would not go along the lines of: I want to kill you --> Murder is wrong --> I shouldn't want to kill him, it's wrong --> Unhappiness. Let's assume that I wanted to kill you for something. My thought process would be along the lines of: --> Murder is wrong, maybe I shouldn't kill him --> Murder wouldn't solve anything, [insert mental debate here about what would be the best choice of action] --> I should do [such-and-such] instead. I wouldn't feel guilt at all, and I wouldn't feel unhappiness at not being able to kill you, either. In addition, I don't live in fear of God at all, but uphold strong morals anyway. I do this because I enjoy it: I enjoy making people (myself and others*) happy, and I figure that if I'm doing the right thing, then by definition it's going to result in the best possible outcome and therefore the most happiness on the whole (very much like the utilitarian definition of what is right, although I don't approach moral decisions from the same direction as a utilitarian would). Moreover, if I did kill you, although it would satisfy my instincts, in the end I'd most likely just regret it (unless you were about to shoot me and I had a gun pointing at you already, in which case I wouldn't have a choice). I would derive almost no pleasure from satisfying many such detrimental instincts, because at the same time I'd be hurting someone else, which I would feel bad for. I feel happy and sometimes proud that I don't satisfy unwanted, harmful insticts.

Now, I don't know how your or anybody's thought processes flow -- I can't know -- but I'm sure that many people who behave morally do so for more or less the same reason that I do: they feel good about doing what's right (or to be more correct, what I or what they believe is right). If someone were behaving in a moral fashion solely because they're living in fear of God, then I don't think that would be right. Probably better than going around doing whatever they want, of course, but they should be acting morally because they enjoy it, not because it's their "job" or their "duty". I could go off on even further tangents from this, but I won't, to avoid going even further off-topic.

Okay, I'm gonna post this now and then respond to ObsoleteLogic's viewpoint (finally), in case the topic gets locked before I finish writing it...

* Edit: Just thought I'd elaborate on this a bit, because it's not entirely true. I do not try to make everyone happy all the time or anything ridiculous like that. In general, the more dissatisfied I am with a person, the less pleasure I feel seeing them happy, and the people I outright hate I pretty much don't care about. I still wouldn't kill them for doing something that pissed me off (well, I might if I wasn't thinking rationally, which is pretty common when I'm really pissed off, so...), but mainly out of self-protection and the knowledge that I generally shouldn't kill. So yeah, just wanted to clarify my statement, because I don't want to give the impression that I'm someone who takes "turn the other [face] cheek" to the extreme .
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
August 08 2003 17:15 GMT
#338
On August 09 2003 00:09 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
This thread was fine before it became, "You're an idiot! Yeah. Idiot! Moron! You're different than me, idiot!"

):



I didn't call you an idiot because you have a diferent opinion, I called you an idiot because you are not capable of defending your views or debate other people's perspectives
I love mankind, its people I hate
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
August 08 2003 17:28 GMT
#339
Zing !!~!~
Staind
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada59 Posts
August 08 2003 18:20 GMT
#340
I have to agree with Obselete here. Although going out at our age is mainly just for sex I think there's more to it then that. Also, I read some place that it can have psychological damage in the future on your ability to deal in relationships - when they get more intimate. I'll try to find the link.
I love you all!
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
August 08 2003 18:36 GMT
#341
Alright, I'm still not 100% sure where ObsoleteLogic is coming from or what he's trying to say, but I'll try to respond to what I view to be the most likely possibility.

In short, as far as I can tell, ObsoleteLogic's argument appears to be: we should only have sex with the person whom we truly love (physical love, fraternal love, and the love of choice) primarily because we must develop our self-restraint in order to prevent the discipline of society from eroding away, which would ultimately result in humanity destroying itself. Hmm... it is difficult to argue against this concept, as it does seem very solid at the moment. However, I choose to stand by my current beliefs in this area, rather than refraining from sex primarily as a method of self-discipline. I make this choice because I do not feel that I need to refrain from sex or any other highly pleasurable activities solely to strengthen my self-restraint. Therefore, ObsoleteLogic's rationale would not work for me. It would probably work for certain other people, and I'm curious to know why he abides by this philosophy himself -- i.e. is it necessary somehow for him to discipline himself in this manner, is he doing it to be safe (as in "you can never have too much discipline"), or is he doing it strictly on principle, which I would disagree with because I believe that the goal of principle is to lead to right action, not that the goal of right action is to adhere to principle (which would only make sense if you were either God-fearing or had no concept of practicality at all). I disagree with disciplining oneself for its own sake in this sitaution because I believe that there comes a point where pleasure should not be traded for excess discipline. I suppose it's up to everyone do decide when they have sufficient discipline (in the sense that only they themselves can know when they've reached this point), though, so I can't say with certainty that ObsoleteLogic is wrong in his philosophy. As for whether or not it's right for other people to follow it: I can't say that for sure, either, though neither can he. Then there's always the possibility that I've missed his point, or at least the focus of his argument, which would suck, because I spent quite a bit of time thinking about all of this =/.

Well, that's my response to ObsoleteLogic's stance. Hopefully I was right in my assumption of what his primary argument was, otherwise there's not much point to any of what I wrote =/. I doubt that most people will be able to follow all that, but hopefully those who actually care to read it will also be those who can understand it .

It doesn't come as any surprise to me that I essentially keep ending in "to each his own", because I believe that since I can't read minds, it's seldom possible to tell someone "this is what you should do" with absolute certainty, nor to force anything on anyone. People think in different ways, so different things work for different people. That's my approach to most (rational) differences of opinion .
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
August 08 2003 18:41 GMT
#342
You were pretty close, though there are a few matters on which I might be able to elucidate on. However, I don't wish for A: this thread to continue on, or B: to be further flamed for my views. If you have AIM, leave it on here?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
August 08 2003 18:44 GMT
#343
On August 09 2003 03:20 Staind wrote:
I have to agree with Obselete here. Although going out at our age is mainly just for sex I think there's more to it then that. Also, I read some place that it can have psychological damage in the future on your ability to deal in relationships - when they get more intimate. I'll try to find the link.


I'd be interested in reading about that, if you can find the link.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
August 08 2003 18:47 GMT
#344
"ItsBill307"

I seldom use it, but I'll go on now.
Element)LoGiC
Profile Joined July 2003
Canada1143 Posts
August 08 2003 20:02 GMT
#345
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TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
August 08 2003 20:06 GMT
#346
im fairly familiar with 2).(minus the std part)
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Terran
Profile Joined December 2002
United States101 Posts
August 08 2003 20:57 GMT
#347
being a slut isn't bad ... it just means she's fine and every guy want to take a shot at her ... yes, pun intended ...
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Vicious)Soul
Profile Joined May 2003
United States857 Posts
August 08 2003 23:30 GMT
#348
AHHHHHHHHH SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
it is a playful smile, like a cheerleader who likes male attention even tho shes actually a prude can-kniving bitch... - stimey
Vharon
Profile Joined July 2003
United States84 Posts
August 09 2003 04:14 GMT
#349
On August 09 2003 08:30 Vicious)Soul wrote:
AHHHHHHHHH SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

rofl
Aus.predator
Profile Joined May 2003
Australia26 Posts
August 09 2003 05:17 GMT
#350
who cares ... shes sucking ur dick and fuckin ur brains out .. go nuts?
Save a whale , harpoon a fat chick
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
August 09 2003 13:46 GMT
#351
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
August 09 2003 17:48 GMT
#352
Hehe, sounds like you had another fun night together . Also sounds like you're starting to become attracted to her emotionally as well, which can be pretty dangerous =/. There is a chance that you and her could develop a relationship like that for a while, where you both go out and do things together, but the chances that she'll stay with you for more than a bit are not good at all -- virtually nill. I don't know about you, but if I really liked a girl (sounds like you're slowly becoming like that with Kate) and we went out for a while but then she left me for some other guy, then I'd be really hurt at that point, so chances are you'll be hurt pretty bad once that happens, too.

Of course, I also know that telling you to keep that in mind isn't going to work very well either, because if you guys really do start doing stuff together, then you'll probably be so happy that you'll become super-optimistic and start thinking that maybe you guys do have a chance for something lasting after all .

Is it worth it? I dunno. If you don't think you'll take it too hard, then I guess you could go for it. It'd probably be a good learning experience, too (as in, learning what it's like to be in a relationship with someone, etc.). It doesn't sound like you view sex as anything particularly special to share with another person, but if you do then you'll probably not want to go through with it, since you'll feel bad later on that you can no longer share it with someone in the future and truly say that that person was special and unique to you. Otherwise, if you're just out for the pleasure of it, then don't worry to much about this.

Okay, I gotta cut this short, so I'll leave it at that. Good luck.

PS: <3 u 2
Staind
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada59 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-09 20:54:56
August 09 2003 20:54 GMT
#353
Oh I disagree. Even now the whole relationship is generally based around sex. You want to go to the movies with her because... make out then go back to her house and have sex (this is the feeling I got). But anyways, enjoy your "slut" and have fun.

I also find it odd that you know / think she's a slut but still want to date her. :\
I love you all!
Disintegrate
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
June 11 2009 02:02 GMT
#354
a slut is a woman with the morals of a man
TheSchwA
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States248 Posts
June 11 2009 02:03 GMT
#355
Awesome bump!
ArtLu
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 11 2009 02:04 GMT
#356
Yo watch this you dirty piece of poo!
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