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Update
Both TaKe and NarutO have responded to this topic. Citing NarutO's response here as it hopefully resolves the situation.
On November 05 2022 02:47 TaKeTV wrote:
Hello.
This is NarutO. Besides what TaKe already mentioned I just want to sum it up real quick. I am sorry that there was miscommunication and an unfortunate solution. After speaking with everyone again we'll change to the more fitting (and suggested) system:
qualifiers first (paid accomodation/travel)
invite by EPT ranking after
I do hope the people that get invited later on have the support/teams/money to actually travel to HSC. Just adding this thought for the people to understand there was no ill will: Having the invited players not supported meant that qualified players with smaller teams might have the chance to travel instead of declining due to money-issues. I understand this wasn't the best solution.
I hope this is all solved with this.
Edit: After todays show I'll go ahead and will have to revoke the invites made; obviously unpleasant but I hope people will understand.
Link to TaKe's reply.
Please remember to stay civil when discussing things!
TheOneAboveU
Original Post
According to reliable sources, the invited players (according to the EPT rankings) for Home Story Cup XXII will not have extra support on addtional travel support and/or hotel.
On the other hand, the qualified players from qualifiers will have supports from the organizer, as the invite only means players are qualified via EPT rankings and "there is no true invite". Players can choose to decline the invite and play in qualifiers and their invite will go to the next player according to EPT rankings.
Informations can also be referred here(scboy forum)
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I don't know what the organizers are thinking. If it's because of budget constraint why not play the qualifiers first and then go ahead and invite the rest based on EPT points. Now this leads to a dilemma for the players. Players run the risk of not making it out of the qualifiers. And that risk is clearly not one they should take.
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Why is information about HSC on scboy forum? Doesn't make sense
@TakeTV / Naruto
Clarification please
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On November 04 2022 23:47 Harris1st wrote:
Why is information about HSC on scboy forum? Doesn't make sense
@TakeTV / Naruto
Clarification please
Hello, people who provided the source wanted me to have a post on SCboy forum at first but I do not have enough time to post it myself at first so I invited my friends to post it on the forum, after further discussion, he/she(the provider of the source) decided to post on both TL forum and SCboy forum to spread the message further. However I do not know how to use TL forum as it is the first time I am posting here so I quoted SCboy forum's link.
![[image loading]](https://s2.loli.net/2022/11/04/MGTedJ89WQnZYEl.png)
![[image loading]](https://s2.loli.net/2022/11/04/SMfARDxlXGbq2Pv.png)
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Also its the admission for reposting from the source provider ![[image loading]](https://s2.loli.net/2022/11/04/wOqMRietP8oyKLc.jpg)
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SC2 drama, finally
For real tho, it's so weird there is a difference depending of how you qualified
Was it also the case in the past?
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This makes sense to me. Give players the option to qualify based on EPT but encourage them to play through the qualifiers instead. I'll always favor anything that pushes players towards qualifiers rather than just straight up inviting them. Kind of weird to see HSC doing this though since it's historically just been an invite only tournament.
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I guess it just seems weird because being high in the EPT ranking and getting invited to things is supposed to be a reward, right? But in this case it feels more like a punishment with the additional cost involved. Not saying it's wrong to provide travel support to qualifier winners. The situation just shows that the available resources are rather scarce, I suppose.
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"why not play the qualifiers first and then go ahead and invite the rest based on EPT point"
that's basically what is happening. every player should simply play the qualifiers, then it plays out like that.
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Players leaking info before tournaments can announce things themselves / sort it out without public drama is fun.
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Hello everyone,
thanks for opening up this topic and i am happy to jump into this topic on a "highlevel" before NarutO is giving more Konext to the whole situation.
First of all:
We joined EPT with the HomeStoryCup to unite the SC2 Ecosystem more, cause the scene is becoming smaller and in our talks with ESL we decided that adding HSC would bring value to EPT and more chances to earn points for the players.
Beside that it would also bring more traction to HomeStoryCup itself, which we thought would be a great idea.
We had great talks with Shopify back in the days, as we said, if we would join EPT and bring everyone through qualifier, it would be amazing go make Shopify the enabling partner to finance the travel / hotels etcpp. cause for 32 players this would be a BIG cost and make tons of players happy and give them the opporunity to come over.
Last HomeStoryCup we made really big losses cause of the extended cost of the travel / accomodation (cause of the WAY higher cost of travel and hotels) Back in the days when we agreed on the deal, we had a good calculation for everything, but as you know flights, hotel, food and everything else became way more costy....sadly!
For this season we discussed this with ESL to find a solution to still run this event with EPT points and asked for solutions and if thier is a way to not pay all 32 players all costs....and thier was a way, which is that the invited player don´t have to get paid by us (Cause this is the only way the ruleset allows it) - All qualified people need to get paid by the organizer which is us.
What we wanted to push and came along wrong probably is:
Please play the qualifier, everyone is allowed to play it and make it and get the trip paid!
If you DON´t make it, you can get invited by us, but then have to pay the trip by yourself, cause we basically don´t have the budget to make it work, but found it as the only possible "fair" way to make it work.
Which means, everyone gets the same chance to get a paid trip to the HSC and if you don´t make it, you can still get invited.
I want to highlight, that we are not the biggest fan of this solution, but the other solution from our understanding would be moving out of EPT fully, which we also thought about alot.
So far EPT came with a lot of compromises for us and even downsides, that at our last HSC GSL was moved "last minute" aswell and we lost tons of great korean players and had even more cost of cancelation etcpp.
I hope this clears up the situation for everyone and it is not a punishment for the invited players.
I think cause this is absoltuely new for us aswell and time was running aswell, our communication could have been better to clarify what we wanna achieve and whats the idea behind it.
If you have any more questions, feel free to reach out to me, much love <3
PS:
What i dislike a lot is that the people / players / management that feels wrong about it, is not trying to solve it with us directly and we have to solve it through a forum / socialmedia or whatsoever.
We have nothing to hide and the ultimate goal for TaKeTV and our HomeStoryCup was always to support the scene and have a great experience for everyone who loves Starcraft II and it has been a high effort and cost almost ever since to run this event, but we / i started my company with doing awesome SC2 Content and this community helped me to be at this point nowadays, so that we always want to give back.
So feel free to reach out to us 
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On November 04 2022 23:26 ciwomuli wrote:
I don't know what the organizers are thinking. If it's because of budget constraint why not play the qualifiers first and then go ahead and invite the rest based on EPT points. Now this leads to a dilemma for the players. Players run the risk of not making it out of the qualifiers. And that risk is clearly not one they should take.
This would have been a great solution without actually changing anything about financial issues.
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Hello.
This is NarutO. Besides what TaKe already mentioned I just want to sum it up real quick. I am sorry that there was miscommunication and an unfortunate solution. After speaking with everyone again we'll change to the more fitting (and suggested) system:
qualifiers first (paid accomodation/travel)
invite by EPT ranking after
I do hope the people that get invited later on have the support/teams/money to actually travel to HSC. Just adding this thought for the people to understand there was no ill will: Having the invited players not supported meant that qualified players with smaller teams might have the chance to travel instead of declining due to money-issues. I understand this wasn't the best solution.
I hope this is all solved with this.
Edit: After todays show I'll go ahead and will have to revoke the invites made; obviously unpleasant but I hope people will understand.
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The current players are preparing IEM Katowice.
In this competition, where the winner's EPT Point is 500, there should be no situation where players' results will be turned upside down by any means other than their skill.
We believe the Organization will be able to design this and proceed in a way that all participants can understand. I want the worries of many players to end.
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As a viewer, who likes the korean scene, it doesn't sound like a very good solution for me.
Homestory-Cup NOW is a tournament, which gives Global Ept Points, so there should be a balanced level of participating players from all the regions.
What will happen here, is that we have 6 qualified korean players, which get a paid trip. The other 6 invited koreans might not come, because price money will be low compared to the trip costs from korea.
So we might end up with a 32 players tournament with only 6 koreans. Compared to the strenght of the area thats discriminating, since it should be a GLOBAL event (as the points say).
Since it seems, that there is not enough money to pay all the players, I see two options here:
- Make the tournament smaller (16 players instead of 32)
- Back out from the circuit and give no EPT Points - then you can invite whomever you want!
Edit: Sry for the double post!
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