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This started yesterday with Nathanias attacking professional players and constantly balance whining on his stream. It's gotten so bad he's honestly Avilo 2.0 at this point.
http://twitter.com/LamboSC2/status/1221850643884843008?s=19
And then we get this from Nathanias this morning:
http://twitter.com/nathanias/status/1222182614749958144?s=19
Nathanias should honestly lose his spot as a commentator and analyst for SC2. The occasional whine is fine but he goes as far as to personally attacking professional players and shitting on the game. We don't need him when we have so many other casters available. He's basically acting like Avilo.
He needs to get his mental health checked. It's no joke.
Edit: I mean the last line as that the way he talks and rants about it and then engaging on Twitter suggests there's an underlying issue. I don't mean it in a derogatory way. I apologize for the misunderstanding. I know quite a few people who have some mental health issues and it's no joke. The anxiety and sudden emotional changes they go through is serious.
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Yeah I'm not a fan of this guy, and he's pretty toxic. Don't get how he actually casts anything with some of the rants I've seen from him when I've turned his stream on personally. I wouldn't say he's as bad as Avilo though, not even close... I think that guy is mentally ill.
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He probably does have some issues managing his anger, but I don't think this warrants a thread nor "losing a spot as a commentator and analyst for SC2".
I don't think him being a "public" figure means he can't give his personal opinion on a player and / or state of the game.
Maybe word it different, sure, but come on, don't get offended by everything.
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Nathanias apologized but not in a very convincing way, in my opinion; he's not close to Avilo level, in any of case.
He should be free to share his opinions about players choosing more appropriate words and less insulting concepts.
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This kind of cancel culture response to someone giving a salty opinion on his stream is just ridiculous. First off, to say Lambo is a mediocre pro Zerg is not that insulting. Look at his results, look at his prize winnings, he's not a top tier player, and it shouldn't be taken as an insult. Heck, he is like #93 on esportsearnings for SC2, with people like Vortix and Liquid Bunny ahead of him, both who have been retired for some time.
To call for someones job when he agrees with a twitch chatter saying Lambo is a patch Zerg makes no sense. SC2 has always been filled with blunt personalities who are never scared to call a region (NA) or it's players complete garbage. Oh and by the way he apologized, albeit not to your liking, is it really worth your time to call for his future opportunities when he's been nothing but professional on the stage when he was being paid for his time?
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Canada8990 Posts
Oh come on at some point, I get that he shouldn't have said it, but can we not just shit on the guy forever. At some point both him and Lambo are adults, they can solve this by themselves. (altought having mediators wouls be nice, but I guess we'll have to wait until there's a union) I mean honestly if we did that everytime someone called Rogue a shitty patchzerg we would have stone half the caster in the scene. In any case throwing buckets at Nate seems pretty disproportionate
Also, avilo is basicly a sexual predator lets no go there.
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I genuinely laugh out loud. I mean come on this is SC2 community. Balance whining is expected and it is the good, bad and ugly of this community. The pro bashing is certainly unwanted from Nate though. That's his opinion and he is just a personality in the community. I wouldn't care what he said and neither should you. You don't like him. Don't watch his stream. I don't.
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On January 29 2020 04:09 geokilla wrote:
Nathanias should honestly lose his spot as a commentator and analyst for SC2.
meh, Nathanias is ok. ease up guys.
the sentence in the quoted snippet doesn't need the word "honestly" in it. this word adds nothing. when people throw "honestly" into their speech i often wonder if i'm being lied to ... or if ... on some level ... the speaker/author is struggling with being 100% authentic.
On January 29 2020 04:09 geokilla wrote:
he's honestly Avilo 2.0 at this point.
another random insertion of the word "honestly" that adds nothing.
there is only 1 Avilo. Nathanias does not resemble Avilo.
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Since he's talking about a pro player who he could end up casting one day, this seems unwise on Nathanias' part. Talking about competitors who you (at some point) may have a professional obligation to treat fairly seems like a poor choice.
Idk the deal with Lambo/Nathanias, so maybe Nathanias' dig warranted to some extent, but I doubt it.
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I was hoping this random drama would just stay on reddit, oh well
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Nobody needs to lose their job tbf, but I don't get why everyone is focused on the fact he called someone patchzerg, the part he should apologize about is calling a pro player a lazy pothead that doesn't take his job seriously imo.
That part was bad. But I hope they discussed privately and that's why he's joking this morning.
If they did not discuss it privately in a more mature way, I think he needs to work on his apologizing skills.
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On January 29 2020 04:39 Nakajin wrote:
Also, avilo is basicly a sexual predator lets no go there.
i don't pay much if any attention to sc2 drama (or gaming drama in general) but this caught my eye.
is there a story behind this or is it just a random insult? cause that's a pretty serious accusation.
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Nathanias didn't attack anyone. All of us have moments when we get mad and make comments that are not meant to offend.
He has already said that he is sorry for what he said and that he shouldn't have done it. Isn't that enough?
Besides he basically just agreed with a comment in twitch chat...can't he express his opinion?
You haters should keep your mouth shut and worry about your own life.
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Just lol really.
Hes a personality! Hes one of the chosen ones who people listen to to tell them what they should also think about the game!
Why do you even care?
Ill remember the awkward apex cast a few months ago . .christ, lets get back to natahnias and some other dude (give 8 secs to say nothing) back to the desk. lol.
edit
just to add to the guy who said saying 'honestly' whilst writing IS exactly my gripe with modern day communication.
Throw in the worlds. 'literally', 'whhhaaaat', 'technically'
and
'yeah, but no', 'but seriously'
for me, you disqualify yourself from adult conversation.
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On January 29 2020 04:09 geokilla wrote:This started yesterday with Nathanias attacking professional players and constantly balance whining on his stream. It's gotten so bad he's honestly Avilo 2.0 at this point. http://twitter.com/LamboSC2/status/1221850643884843008?s=19And then we get this from Nathanias this morning: http://twitter.com/nathanias/status/1222182614749958144?s=19Nathanias should honestly lose his spot as a commentator and analyst for SC2. The occasional whine is fine but he goes as far as to personally attacking professional players and shitting on the game. We don't need him when we have so many other casters available. He's basically acting like Avilo. He needs to get his mental health checked. It's no joke.
I'd rather hear it from the commentators and on-screen personalities than the pros. The proper response is to laugh or wonder who the fuck cares about his thoughts.
And he's spent the entire rest of the time groveling, apparently. I guess mission accomplished.
And he gave the obvious disclaimer for mad sc2 fans that take everything too literally.
Seriously grow up, geokilla. You obviously excuse yourself for things you criticize in others, since you can type
"he's honestly Avilo 2.0 at this point."
"He needs to get his mental health checked. It's no joke."
The only posters I genuinely credit for wanting a kinder, gentler SC2 trash talking scene are those who can personally avoid it in their own speech. You can dish it out, so learn to receive it a little better too. I wager dozens to hundreds of people here can remember IdrA and sometimes Naniwa and can have a good laugh at what qualifies for outrageous balance whines nowadays. It's also boring as hell when you can't allow the color commentators exaggerating for humor, even while detecting they have some opinion on balance behind it all.
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United States33613 Posts
They should just cast a match together and hash it out on-air 
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gosh this is stupid, lets just fire everyone for saying something when they're salty and raging so we can no one in the scene just like we want
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This is not much different than Lambo saying all Koreans are bad at ZvZ. Or the multitude of EU players who say the NA scene is bad. Maybe slightly worse since he actually named some players while the previous statements are vague but it's not that much different.
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Canada8990 Posts
On January 29 2020 05:07 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2020 04:39 Nakajin wrote:
Also, avilo is basicly a sexual predator lets no go there.
i don't pay much if any attention to sc2 drama (or gaming drama in general) but this caught my eye. is there a story behind this or is it just a random insult? cause that's a pretty serious accusation.
Maybe a bit of a reach, but he got charged (and I think convicted) on harrasment charge, he kept messaging and tracking down the home some girl he once knew.
And I feel like I remember him showing up at her place?
Can't say I kept to much with it myself, so maybe I should stop there, maybe I'm wrong.
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