Venezuela political situation/humanitarian Crisis - Page 3

On January 30 2019 13:37 JimmiC wrote:
Also please dont make up that it is anyone but Maduro stopping fair and free elections, that olive branch was publicly offered and rejected.

Also, I find your opinion that keeping the military officials him and chavez selected and groomed corrupt and stealing billions from the people (probably more then the profit a private company would take) is somehow justifiable because otherwise the US would buy them off distasteful, completely not socialist and logically incongruent.

On January 30 2019 14:15 JimmiC wrote:


None of that video is related to you acting as though maduro didnt reject the call for elections.

And that tgis guys believes that maduro is the rightful president in spite of the unfair elections. Others believe different.

And you are still dodging my point that if maduro could win so easy why wouldnt he just do it and shut the world up?

Also please stop posting opinion videos of people who agree with your opinion. Would it change your mind if I posted an opinion video of someone who disagrees? And posting the same video again is also pointless.

On January 30 2019 23:22 JimmiC wrote:



We were talking about an election not a plebiscite on military intervention. You seem to think I'm pro Guiodro because of his affiliation with anyone. I'm not pro him for any reason other than he claims he will hold elections and restore the constitution and the courts. Then the people can make their choices,

You are so invested in making this all about the US because of your hatred for them is both counter productive and tiring.

On January 31 2019 00:29 JimmiC wrote:
The irony of your post is stunning. If you go back to the OP I posted lots of info against it. I even used many of your articles. Until you source some of your bold claims like US sanctions crippled the economy. With actual info about the sanctions (which I have provided you over and over and wouldn't cripple an economy). You can just stay away, you have your own blog where you can spread your theories and treat them as fact. I've been very patient and asked multiple times for specific sources about specific things. That an opposition party is for Maduro doesn't matter, if you have noticed most opposition parties just pick the opposite position. And it is more opinion base stuff, which has a place of course just stop treating opinions that agree with you as fact.

This Blog was not meant for it to be about you. And to have you hijack it to insult me. I'm trying to post both sides and I have made it clear that I believe it is best for Venezuela to hold elections. If you have problems with this statement or the one above. And problems providing sources to your opinions you hold as facts please just post else where. Thank you.

Now on too what is going on. In great news Maduro has offered to negotiate with the opposition. Who knows if this is in good faith or if the opposition will accept but it is the first positive thing I have read in some time.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/venezuela-s-maduro-offers-to-negotiate-with-opposition-1.4998318

Here is an opinion piece from the NPR that it wasn't external forces that caused it.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/30/689286896/opinion-foreign-forces-did-not-start-venezuelas-transition-venezuela-did

“They intend to put a puppet government in Venezuela, destroy the state and take colonial control of the country.”

But he added that he was still willing to talk with the opposition even if he “had to go naked.”

On January 31 2019 01:07 JimmiC wrote:
I can find them, I have found them and discussed them.

Great, I hope he is actually willing to discuss having actual elections, releasing the political prisoners, ending the mass corruption he managed.

On January 31 2019 01:33 JimmiC wrote:
Yes, I have been scroll up and check back on the Pm''s before. They were related to the purchasing of Debt and to the sale of arms.

"We will continue denouncing US lies, and I will continue to encourage national dialogue because I am up for a dialogue with all the political opposition, with the opposition media," he said. "I think dialogue should prevail. I believe in dialogue."

On January 31 2019 02:19 JimmiC wrote:
You seem to be missing my point about talking and meaningful talking. Everything that the world and Venezuelans have asked for is on the table and easy for Maduro to do. But he won't so what is it that he wants to discuss? He already said he will not hold elections, or release political prisoners. As I mentioned, North Korea will always talk. And yes I don't nail every piece of information every time about who says what.

And you keep ignoring the fact that they did have a still biased for Maduro but not as bad election (he hadn't locked up the leadership yet) and he lost 70% of the riding's.

This is going to be the last time I ask you politely to stop treating your assumptions like facts and treating this blog like it's yours. This is meant to be a discussion and information about what is happening in Venezuela not GH strokes his ego while being a dick to Jim because he won't agree with his conspiracy theory that it is all because of the US.

On January 31 2019 02:41 RvB wrote:

Not sure if it matters. There have already been talks with the Vatican involved. In the end Maduro used the talks to buy time and divide the opposition. I doubt anything will be different this time.

On January 31 2019 03:00 JimmiC wrote:
You seem to THINK the only alternative is military invasion. It is not that is your bias and assumptions talking while you ignore or create major facts to fit your narrative. He could call elections like the rest of the world has asked is an option. He could release the political prisoners, both the leadership of the opposition or all the protesters (sadly he can't unkill the opposition and protesters he has but it is what it is) as an act of good faith to lead to discussions.

Making it seem like having bad faith discussions or war are the only two options only fits your narrative and does not fit with reality.

This you last warning, move on or move off. Thanks.

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