Venezuela political situation/humanitarian Crisis - Page 10

Nebuchad

Switzerland12377 Posts

February 06 2019 02:48 GMT

#181

On February 06 2019 11:27 JimmiC wrote:
@nebuchad it is likely my bias that are making react perhaps to harsh. Who is the guy? And why should I believe him?

I'm always skeptical of someone who acts like he's got it all figured out and the rest of people are snowed, especially at this guys age. But perhaps I'm judging a book by the cover. Do you know his education level and is his knowledge based on some specific research or traveling to these places or something?

You shouldn't believe him. I don't know what's happening in Venezuela. I can't conceive of why you think you do, and I don't know why that belief makes you react in the way it does but it's just getting weird. Like I started to answer your first answer with the first few problems in it and then I was like what's the point even?

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

February 06 2019 03:17 GMT

#182

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RvB

Netherlands6261 Posts

February 06 2019 06:11 GMT

#183

On February 06 2019 05:59 JimmiC wrote:
Yes, but they should blame it on corruption. It is almost always an internal failure caused by the people at the top abusing their power. And those close to them doing the same. The authoritarian nature of almost all "socialist" governments causes this.

Then why do other very corrupt countries not collapse like this? What's the difference between Venezuela and these countries according to you?

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

February 06 2019 13:49 GMT

#184

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JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

February 06 2019 14:24 GMT

#185

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Jerubaal

United States7684 Posts

February 06 2019 17:11 GMT

#186

It doesn't seem that mysterious to me. It seems like oil was a poison pill to them, and they failed to diversify or build up their domestic economy. Some other factors, like corruption, may have entered into it, but that's probably the main one.

RvB

Netherlands6261 Posts

February 06 2019 18:03 GMT

#187

On February 07 2019 02:11 Jerubaal wrote:
It doesn't seem that mysterious to me. It seems like oil was a poison pill to them, and they failed to diversify or build up their domestic economy. Some other factors, like corruption, may have entered into it, but that's probably the main one.

That doesn't cause a collapse this large though. Venezuela has been suffering from dutch disease for more than a century. They never collapsed this badly. Neither did any other oil producing country. Even Iraq didn't collapse like this while it's incredibly oil dependent, as corrupt as Venezuela and went through a war against IS. For me it's pretty clear it's socialist economic policy which exacerbated the crisis to such an extent. But I was also curious what he thought.

Godwrath

Spain10134 Posts

February 06 2019 18:37 GMT

#188

On February 07 2019 03:03 RvB wrote:

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That doesn't cause a collapse this large though. Venezuela has been suffering from dutch disease for more than a century. They never collapsed this badly. Neither did any other oil producing country. Even Iraq didn't collapse like this while it's incredibly oil dependent, as corrupt as Venezuela and went through a war against IS. For me it's pretty clear it's socialist economic policy which exacerbated the crisis to such an extent. But I was also curious what he thought.

Let's play this sily oversimplification game, only countries with mass corruption and oil that are not aligned to the US get into this sort of humanitarian crisis. So it's pretty clear, US interference is why this happens.

By the way, there was an interview last sunday to Maduro from a spanish interviewer, and it was pretty good. It's in spanish, but i doubt it's subbed, i will try to see if i am wrong and post it

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

February 06 2019 18:45 GMT

#189

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Seeker

Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts

February 07 2019 02:06 GMT

#190

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