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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12318 Posts
February 06 2019 02:48 GMT
#181
On February 06 2019 11:27 JimmiC wrote:
@nebuchad it is likely my bias that are making react perhaps to harsh. Who is the guy? And why should I believe him?

I'm always skeptical of someone who acts like he's got it all figured out and the rest of people are snowed, especially at this guys age. But perhaps I'm judging a book by the cover. Do you know his education level and is his knowledge based on some specific research or traveling to these places or something?


You shouldn't believe him. I don't know what's happening in Venezuela. I can't conceive of why you think you do, and I don't know why that belief makes you react in the way it does but it's just getting weird. Like I started to answer your first answer with the first few problems in it and then I was like what's the point even?
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 06 2019 03:17 GMT
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6248 Posts
February 06 2019 06:11 GMT
#183
On February 06 2019 05:59 JimmiC wrote:
Yes, but they should blame it on corruption. It is almost always an internal failure caused by the people at the top abusing their power. And those close to them doing the same. The authoritarian nature of almost all "socialist" governments causes this.

Then why do other very corrupt countries not collapse like this? What's the difference between Venezuela and these countries according to you?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 06 2019 13:49 GMT
#184
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JimmiC
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Canada22817 Posts
February 06 2019 14:24 GMT
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 06 2019 17:11 GMT
#186
It doesn't seem that mysterious to me. It seems like oil was a poison pill to them, and they failed to diversify or build up their domestic economy. Some other factors, like corruption, may have entered into it, but that's probably the main one.

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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6248 Posts
February 06 2019 18:03 GMT
#187
On February 07 2019 02:11 Jerubaal wrote:
It doesn't seem that mysterious to me. It seems like oil was a poison pill to them, and they failed to diversify or build up their domestic economy. Some other factors, like corruption, may have entered into it, but that's probably the main one.


That doesn't cause a collapse this large though. Venezuela has been suffering from dutch disease for more than a century. They never collapsed this badly. Neither did any other oil producing country. Even Iraq didn't collapse like this while it's incredibly oil dependent, as corrupt as Venezuela and went through a war against IS. For me it's pretty clear it's socialist economic policy which exacerbated the crisis to such an extent. But I was also curious what he thought.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-06 18:44:26
February 06 2019 18:37 GMT
#188
On February 07 2019 03:03 RvB wrote:
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On February 07 2019 02:11 Jerubaal wrote:
It doesn't seem that mysterious to me. It seems like oil was a poison pill to them, and they failed to diversify or build up their domestic economy. Some other factors, like corruption, may have entered into it, but that's probably the main one.


That doesn't cause a collapse this large though. Venezuela has been suffering from dutch disease for more than a century. They never collapsed this badly. Neither did any other oil producing country. Even Iraq didn't collapse like this while it's incredibly oil dependent, as corrupt as Venezuela and went through a war against IS. For me it's pretty clear it's socialist economic policy which exacerbated the crisis to such an extent. But I was also curious what he thought.

Let's play this sily oversimplification game, only countries with mass corruption and oil that are not aligned to the US get into this sort of humanitarian crisis. So it's pretty clear, US interference is why this happens.

By the way, there was an interview last sunday to Maduro from a spanish interviewer, and it was pretty good. It's in spanish, but i doubt it's subbed, i will try to see if i am wrong and post it
JimmiC
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Canada22817 Posts
February 06 2019 18:45 GMT
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Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
February 07 2019 02:06 GMT
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The TL moderation team has made a decision that we will no longer allow politically related blogs. All threads related to politics will be allowed in General only. We ask you all for your understanding in this matter. Thank you.
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