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JimmiC
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February 02 2019 00:02 GMT
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United States23230 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 00:28:12
February 02 2019 00:21 GMT
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On February 02 2019 09:02 JimmiC wrote:
If you want to worry about what you can't control and that lets you feel like you have some control have at it. It will make you miserable but whatever. Sure you can go "told you so" but all those times you are wrong you worried for nothing. And all this bitching and complaining about what MIGHT happen isn't going to stop it anyhow.

The bottom line in this world that is actually happening right now, is a country and its people desperately wants and needs to get out from a horrible dictator who is starving them to death, shooting, arresting and torturing them for protesting and has stolen the nations wealth, both himself and through state sponsored corruption.

We know this, it is indisputable fact. So things COULD get worse, but they ARE horrible. So since we have a realistic chance for change I am hoping it happens. And then I hope the Venezuelan vote for good government and not a Right wing asshat. But sadly because Maduro marketed himself as a socialist and people believed him (including you) there is going to be strong momentum to swing the opposite direction.

That my is reality. And sadly that is not what you are peddling. So please stop typing what MIGHT happen I am aware it could, and anyone who has read here and hasn't been turned off by your condescending way and arrogance of thinking you know all the answers and are a special guy who has all the answers attitude knows it as well. So just stop already if anyone other then me hasn't given up on this thread, we get it Bad right wingers MIGHT take over and the US would likely support them.


This makes me think you didn't study the Vietnam war much either if you don't recognize the value of public opposition to US facilitated foreign regime change.

I feel like I demonstrated my points and my hope is that people be extremely skeptical of blindly supporting/hoping US facilitated regime change backed by threats of force ranging from sponsoring fascists in Brazil/US trained Colombian death squads to the full force of the US military to support an unknown guy claiming he's going to bring fair elections after meeting with the US and coordinating this action.

Luis Vicente Leon, head of the Caracas-based polling firm Datanalisis, said that Guaido was so unknown that he hadn't even measured Guaido's approval ratings, like he does numerous other politicians. But he plans to start doing so this week.

Critics say Guaido lacks a political vision, pointing to his rambling debut speech as the legislature’s president, which was full of rhetorical barbs aimed at the “usurper” Maduro but short on specifics on how to get out of the malaise.


and/or be extremely skeptical of the value of a narrative told by someone who does.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
JimmiC
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February 02 2019 00:31 GMT
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February 02 2019 15:50 GMT
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Why don't you bump or open a thread in the general forum? You seem very interested in the subject.
JimmiC
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Jerubaal
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February 03 2019 20:24 GMT
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@GH I don't know if you answered this already, but what do you think Venezuela could have done to prevent their economic collapse?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
JimmiC
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February 04 2019 15:29 GMT
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Jerubaal
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February 05 2019 19:27 GMT
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I think it's important to remember events like this because socialists have a real habit (ok, they do it every time) of blaming every failure of socialism on #NotRealSocialism and U.S intervention.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
JimmiC
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February 05 2019 20:59 GMT
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Nebuchad
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Switzerland12177 Posts
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February 05 2019 21:29 GMT
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I just thought I'd put some BadMouse in there because why not.

The old one that was good:

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The new one that I haven't watched yet:

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Here's another video by some other dude that I haven't watched either:

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Nebuchad
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Last Edited: 2019-02-06 01:12:12
February 06 2019 00:08 GMT
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This guy doesn't think anything about what happened in the last 2 years cause that video was from 2017. Media focus was already there, and it was there to cover manifestations against Maduro, not a humanitarian crisis. Making the argument that the media focuses differently on different things is not whataboutism.

edit: my mistake no idea why I started engaging you^^
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