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Tadzio
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On April 11 2007 10:13 TheosEx wrote: Sadist, you're points are all over the place. I can understand how Tadzio and Hot_bid think, but even though I agree with you for the most part, you need a more solid argument. I dont need a solid arguement, because im not debating (I dont debate anyway let alone about an issue like this where theres no convincing people of either side) Nitpick all you want at what I said but it comes from personal experience from people of all walks of life. Stereotypes are not racist in most circumstances. It depends on who says them and how serious they are said, I take them as a grain of salt and they can be occasionally be funny. Now if I said all black guys had huge dicks most people probably would think that was straight homo (except mora, whats up mora) or maybe laugh it off or maybe agree. But if I said all black women have attitudes and nappy short hair, thats suddenly racism (which I can see why it would be labeled as racism especially if I said it seriously, but its in the same category as the above statement) Of course I ramble though, I have a hard time organizing my thoughts, I work on it, my mind is always going so Maybe thats why Im disorganized? Who knows. People need to lighten up though, I know it has to do with their upbringing and such, but really, racial jokes and real racism (such as not wanting your asian daughter to date someone outside their race; just one example  ) need to be addressed as such, because therea re huge differences. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On April 11 2007 10:35 Rekrul wrote: Extra Extra! 3-time-convicted map hacker rambles on b.net and forums non stop about how he's the best player ever and gets more attention than warranted! JLIG. | ||
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TheosEx
United States894 Posts
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Tadzio
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
On April 11 2007 10:41 Sadist wrote: "That's right. Not all stereotypes are negative. But even a positive one like 'All Asians are good at math' is harmful to society." Now if I said all black guys had huge dicks most people probably would think that was straight homo (except mora, whats up mora) or maybe laugh it off or maybe agree. But if I said all black women have attitudes and nappy short hair, thats suddenly racism (which I can see why it would be labeled as racism especially if I said it seriously, but its in the same category as the above statement) | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On April 11 2007 10:07 TheosEx wrote: What Rekrul said has some truth to it. Anyone can take offense for "racial" remarks but it's mostly black people who do it, due to all the dumbasses like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson crying wolf everytime something happens. I'm sick and tired of black people blaming other people for "stratifying" and "bring them down." Like they're the only group of people in this whole world that has ever been used as slaves and degraded. I understand that US customs basically make it more likely to happen, but seriously... get over it. lollll What pisses me off so much is the arrogant cynicalism in this topic. People like to say things like - "Person X SHOULDN'T take it so seriously, they should just roll with the punches! Not that I'm black or anything, but I'm sure I totally understand what it's like to be them!" Honestly, now. If they're offended, they're offended, and that's the end of the story. You think they shouldn't care, but you shouldn't presume to know more about what they should and shouldn't be offended by, considering they are also rational adult human beings. It's not your place, and it's incredibly arrogant to pretend to know how they "should" be thinking. | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Maybe you should say that to the black people who are all riled over this. Slavery was over a hundred years ago. JLIG Al. | ||
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SChasu
United States1505 Posts
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bine
United States2352 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On April 11 2007 11:28 Rekrul wrote: Maybe you should say that to the black people who are all riled over this. Slavery was over a hundred years ago. JLIG Al. ...? You're weird. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On April 11 2007 11:00 Tadzio00 wrote: Just laughing internally, god! ? blasphemer. | ||
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[angst]chraej
1445 Posts
those who hear a statement and derive racism from it when the statement was not intended to be racist are themselves the racists | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On April 11 2007 11:07 yubee wrote: "That's right. Not all stereotypes are negative. But even a positive one like 'All Asians are good at math' is harmful to society." ok so the real question here. is are STEREOTYPES that involve a persons race or ethnicity RACIST? IMO the stereotypes arent racist, they are just stereotypes. Racial jokes are based on racial stereotypes and not racism itself and that is where im coming from saying that theres a difference between a racial joke and racism | ||
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[angst]chraej
1445 Posts
anything can be taken as bigotry but i think of stereotypes as references rather than gospel | ||
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
On April 11 2007 10:06 Tadzio00 wrote: Well, considering that he was talking about a group of black basketball players, I don't think it's a huge leap in logic to think Imus was directly referring to black people... since he was. Like I said, I really have nothing to say about Imus. Maybe he was meaning to be racist, maybe not. That's not my concern. I was just addressing the idea of perception in general and how people use it to interpret things in a certain way. | ||
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bine
United States2352 Posts
On April 11 2007 11:28 Rekrul wrote: Maybe you should say that to the black people who are all riled over this. Slavery was over a hundred years ago. JLIG Al. Slavery was over a hundred years ago, but white people are still living the high life on the backs of slaves, and black people are still enduring the effects of being bred for generations to fear reading, to fear education, to be totally subordinate and isolated and to think of themselves as animals. If you think that black people today are in overwhelmingly worse circumstances than white people are just because they are stupid or lazy or something, you have no idea what you're talking about and should go back to school. Aside from the lasting social, educational and economic effects of slavery, complicit racism is still being perpetrated en masse in every corner of the united states. It's still many times harder to get a job with the name Yolanda than it is with the name Beth, and black people are still expected to act certain ways and do certain things, and still have to deal with things white people never even have to think about. If you don't understand this, you obviously either have no substantial relationships with black people or your black friends are scared to talk to you about this. If you think that slavery ending over 100 years ago means that racism is irrelevant, you are incredibly ignorant. | ||
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
On April 11 2007 09:57 Hot_Bid wrote: Dictionary.com: Online Etymology Dictionary - Cite This Source nappy (adj.) "downy," 1499, from nap (n.). Meaning "fuzzy, kinky," used in colloquial or derogatory ref. to the hair of black people, is from 1950. that's not "racially exclusive" enough for you? 10 results for: nappy [ Nearby Entries ] nappier nappies nappiest nappiness napping Napping machine NAPPO NAPPOSR NAPPS nappy NAPR NAPRA naprapath naprapathies naprapathy NAPRD NAPRECA naprosyn naproxen naproxen sodium naproxens View results from: Dictionary | Thesaurus | Encyclopedia | All Reference | the Web Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source nap·py1 /ˈnæpi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nap-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun Chiefly Scot. liquor, esp. ale. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 1425–75; late ME noppi. See nap2, -y1] Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source nap·py2 /ˈnæpi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nap-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun, plural -pies. a small shallow dish, usually round and often of glass, with a flat bottom and sloping sides, for serving food. Also, nappie. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 1870–75, Americanism; nap (ME; OE hnæp bowl) + -y2] Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source nap·py3 /ˈnæpi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nap-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective, -pi·er, -pi·est. 1. covered with nap; downy. 2. (of hair) kinky. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 1490–1500; nap2 + -y1] —Related forms nap·pi·ness, noun Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source nap·py4 /ˈnæpi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nap-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun, plural -pies. Chiefly British. a diaper. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 1925–30; nap(kin) + -y2] Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006. American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source nap·py 1 (nāp'ē) Pronunciation Key adj. nap·pi·er, nap·pi·est Having a nap; fuzzy. Kinky; frizzy. (Download Now or Buy the Book) The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source nap·py 2 (nāp'ē) Pronunciation Key n. pl. nap·pies A round, shallow cooking or serving dish with a flat bottom and sloping sides. [Probably from dialectal nap, bowl, from Middle English, from Old English hnæp.] (Download Now or Buy the Book) The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source nap·py 3 (nāp'ē) Pronunciation Key n. pl. nap·pies Chiefly British A diaper. [Alteration of napkin.] (Download Now or Buy the Book) The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Online Etymology Dictionary - Cite This Source nappy (adj.) "downy," 1499, from nap (n.). Meaning "fuzzy, kinky," used in colloquial or derogatory ref. to the hair of black people, is from 1950. Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper WordNet - Cite This Source nappy adjective 1. (of hair) in small tight curls [syn: crisp] noun 1. garment consisting of a folded cloth drawn up between the legs and fastened at the waist; worn by infants to catch excrement [syn: diaper] WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University. Kernerman English Multilingual Dictionary (Beta Version) - Cite This Source nappy [ˈnӕpi] noun — plural ˈnappies (American ˈdiaper) a piece of cloth or paper put between a baby's legs to soak up urine etc Arabic: فوطَة الطِّفْل، قِماط Chinese (Simplified): 尿布 Chinese (Traditional): 尿布 Czech: plenka Danish: ble Dutch: luier Estonian: mähe Finnish: vaippa French: couche German: die Windel Greek: πάνα Hungarian: pelenka Icelandic: bleyja Indonesian: popok Italian: pannolino Japanese: おむつ Latvian: autiņi Lithuanian: palutė Norwegian: bleie Polish: pieluszka Portuguese (Brazil): fralda Portuguese (Portugal): fralda Russian: пелёнка; подгузник Slovak: plienka Slovenian: plenica Spanish: pañal Swedish: blöja Turkish: çocuk bezi Kernerman English Multilingual Dictionary (Beta Version), © 2000-2006 K Dictionaries Ltd. What? You proved exactly what I said. It can be used in a lot of different ways, and YOU applied that particular connotation to it. Stop picking out specific things and see everything as a whole. | ||
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Eniram
Sudan3166 Posts
P.S. Whats with the team crying a river about the statement? Like they've never been insulted before. | ||
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bine
United States2352 Posts
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