Radio Personality suspended for "racist remark"

On April 10 2007 17:39 Hot_Bid wrote:
what? are people seriously saying that people who are offended by this are "taking his comments too seriously?" are you fucking joking? it's clearly and obviously racist and he should be fired. cal ripken was scheduled to be on imus' show but canceled his appearance, i would too.

amazing.

On April 10 2007 17:42 Sadist wrote:


you act like he called them niggers or something.

OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE RACIAL JOKES BUT THEY WERENT RACIST

he makes fun of EVERYBODY hes SUPPOSED To make jokes, he made a joke (It was weak as fuck anyway) big deal.

People need to lighten up, take a fucking joke.

On April 10 2007 17:36 ~AreS] wrote:
Too many uptight people in this world.

On April 10 2007 17:42 Sadist wrote:
OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE RACIAL JOKES BUT THEY WERENT RACIST

On April 10 2007 17:47 Hot_Bid wrote:

him calling them nappy headed hoes isn't a racist joke? what the fuck?

so if he called a group of asians slanty eyed rice pickers, or a group of hispanics greasy bean picking border jumpers, those aren't racist because he didn't say "gook" or "chink" or "spic"?

are you fucking kidding?

On April 10 2007 17:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
him calling them nappy headed hoes isn't a racist joke? what the fuck?

On April 10 2007 17:51 Haemonculus wrote:


"He's not racist! He just hates black people!"

Seriously calling black people "you people" doesn't make him any more racist than me punching you in the face would make me violent.

On April 10 2007 17:42 Sadist wrote:


you act like he called them niggers or something.

OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE RACIAL JOKES BUT THEY WERENT RACIST

he makes fun of EVERYBODY hes SUPPOSED To make jokes, he made a joke (It was weak as fuck anyway) big deal.

People need to lighten up, take a fucking joke.

On April 10 2007 17:55 ~AreS] wrote:
I could make a joke about how the government should DIAF, but that doesn't make me an anarchist.

On April 10 2007 17:55 ~AreS] wrote:
I could make a joke about how the government should DIAF, but that doesn't make me an anarchist.

On April 10 2007 17:58 fusionsdf wrote:


How exactly does that relate?

On April 10 2007 17:57 fusionsdf wrote:


Oh. So as long as we dont use the word nigger, we aren't being racist? How enlightened.

On April 10 2007 17:51 Sadist wrote:


racial jokes are not racist, they are simply racial jokes.

Denying someone service because they are black or calling someone a nigger is racist, not what imas did, please, the way you are acting is typical of the problem of big ass overreaction in todays culture (especially in america) . Watch any comedian and youll hear shit way worse than what Imas said.

On April 10 2007 18:00 Hot_Bid wrote:

well i strongly disagree with you and your outlook on this issue.

i agree that there is a general trend towards overreaction and overly-PC stuff, but this a very clear cut case and there's definitely no ambiguity there.

and saying racial jokes "aren't racist, they are just jokes!" is probably the most ignorant statement i've ever heard.

i knew i shouldn't have bothered with this thread and i won't post any further. whatever.

On April 10 2007 17:59 ~AreS] wrote:

I'm not about to argue with someone who fails to understand something so simple.

On April 10 2007 18:15 fusionsdf wrote:
Spoiler: They don't.

On April 10 2007 18:04 Sadist wrote:
ok being a racist needs to be defined here because people throw around the word way too loosely.

Stereotypes are not racist imo, its the prejudice you have for a person that is what racism is, racial jokes are based on stereotypes not on prejudices (in most cases)

On April 10 2007 18:21 Tadzio00 wrote:


Just grab a dictionary, the people you're arguing against are using it correctly. Look up racism, then discrimination, then stereotype and prejudice. You're making unnecessary and apparently idiosyncratic distinctions between these words and they're practically synonyms.

On April 10 2007 18:17 ~AreS] wrote:

I would reiterate, but I feel it would be lost on you. So, for your sake, I'll explain it with points.

Let's assume that I already made my anti-government joke, and he already made his "racist" joke.

1. He said what he did in jest.
I said what I said in jest.

2. What he said sounded racist.
What I said sounds like anarchy.

3. IT'S A FUCKING JOKE!
""

Now if you really want to argue that racist jokes are harmless, I suggest you just stop and reexamine it. The answer should pop up eventually.

On April 10 2007 18:41 Tadzio00 wrote:


Why you guys (Ares and Sadist) are expending such effort to defend a man that has readily admitted guilt and accepted punishment is beyond me.

Ares, there's nothing wrong with calling a black person black... straw men and all that jazz.

And Sadist, playing games with semantics to trick people into agreeing with you is a really low rhetorical duplicity. If you think it's necessary to invent new meanings for all the words you use, knock yourself out, but don't expect people to understand what you're saying.

On April 10 2007 23:41 BlackJack wrote:
It's a phenomenal feat that these women acheived and that will be completely overlooked because of Don's comment. Instead of being celebrated for being national finalists, their school and school newspaper is probably flooded by whispers of this controversy. He completely ruined these girls' success with his racist, insensitive remarks. Yet a lot of you guys don't see anything wrong with that. Super.

Lol @ Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Both of them have a lot more skeletons in their closet than Imus.

On April 10 2007 17:42 Sadist wrote:


you act like he called them niggers or something.

OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE RACIAL JOKES BUT THEY WERENT RACIST

he makes fun of EVERYBODY hes SUPPOSED To make jokes, he made a joke (It was weak as fuck anyway) big deal.

People need to lighten up, take a fucking joke.

On April 10 2007 18:00 Hot_Bid wrote:

well i strongly disagree with you and your outlook on this issue.

i agree that there is a general trend towards overreaction and overly-PC stuff, but this a very clear cut case and there's definitely no ambiguity there.

and saying racial jokes "aren't racist, they are just jokes!" is probably the most ignorant statement i've ever heard.

i knew i shouldn't have bothered with this thread and i won't post any further. whatever.

On April 11 2007 01:36 BroOd wrote:
Two major news organizations censor a well known public figure over a shaky premise, and everyone's still talking about the semantics of a racist joke. Talk about putting the cart before the horse. Well done!

On April 11 2007 01:35 WhatisProtoss wrote:

This truly is clearcut. He has already admitted that he has made a racial statement. He already accepts his punishment.

However, he doesn't accept the fact that people are calling him a racist. Making a racist joke doesn't make you a racist. Not bathing one day and apologizing for not doing so doesn't make you a dirty person. Maybe momentarily, but it's not part of your personality. Anybody can make those comments, racist or not.

Blacks and Asians are the most racist people I've ever seen. Yet, somehow, it's something that isn't focused on. Black people call each other "nigger" all the time. Maybe it's because of the massive amount of discrimination that Blacks and Asians have received in the United States in the past, it is more "acceptable" that they would make racial slurs, rather than white people.

I have heard "hoes" and "bitches" in movies all the time. I don't see such an outrage such as this.

Stop bashing Sadist for trying to defend this guy. It's only because he doesn't really deserve all this attention. He isn't a racist.

Bottom Line: NOBODY REALLY CARES. It happened once. He apologized. We've been listening to him for the past 30 years.

On April 11 2007 00:04 TheosEx wrote:

I know two ex-Rutgers women's basketball players. One is an assistant manager at Circuit City and another is a Secretary. Phenomenal feat how? To play basketball, then go nowhere... like where most of these girls will probably go.

On April 10 2007 23:41 BlackJack wrote:
It's a phenomenal feat that these women acheived and that will be completely overlooked because of Don's comment. Instead of being celebrated for being national finalists, their school and school newspaper is probably flooded by whispers of this controversy. He completely ruined these girls' success with his racist, insensitive remarks. Yet a lot of you guys don't see anything wrong with that. Super.

Lol @ Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Both of them have a lot more skeletons in their closet than Imus.

On April 10 2007 17:47 Hot_Bid wrote:

him calling them nappy headed hoes isn't a racist joke? what the fuck?

so if he called a group of asians slanty eyed rice pickers, or a group of hispanics greasy bean picking border jumpers, those aren't racist because he didn't say "gook" or "chink" or "spic"?

are you fucking kidding?

On April 10 2007 18:28 fusionsdf wrote:


They dont relate, because anarchy concerns state form, while racism concerns oppression.
It is okay for a public figure to joke and make an anarchist comment. It is not okay for a public figure to joke and say he is going to kill the president. It is also not okay for a public figure to joke and make a racist statement.

anarchist jokes != racist jokes

On April 11 2007 06:43 draeger wrote:
I think it's time to socially condemn every non-white person who refers to a white person in anything but a civil undertone. If the minorities can ruin people's careers, we (the white people) should be able to as well.

On April 11 2007 01:36 BroOd wrote:
Two major news organizations censor a well known public figure over a shaky premise, and everyone's still talking about the semantics of a racist joke. Talk about putting the cart before the horse. Well done!

On April 11 2007 08:36 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Look, this topic is making me angry. I said I didn't care before but I do now.

The fact of the matter is that Don Imus meant it as a racial insult. Whether or not you personally believe it to be, whether or not Chappelle has said anything before, the fact of the matter is, Don Imus made a racist remark and intended it to be racist. Whether or not he was joking, he didn't have the credibility that Chappelle does when he made his joke that he really was "just joking", and he knew it.

On April 11 2007 08:37 Sadist wrote:


he makes jokes like this all the time what the fuck are you talking about that he doesnt have the credibility?

On April 11 2007 08:44 GrandInquisitor wrote:


Yeah, but he's not funny.

On April 11 2007 08:49 Sadist wrote:


WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH CREDIBLITY

IM NOT SAYING HES FUNNY BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY IMUS SUCKS AND ISNT FUNNY BUT THIS IDEA OF RACISM IS FUCKING PLAYED OUT AND RETARDED

On April 11 2007 08:49 Sadist wrote:


WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH CREDIBLITY

IM NOT SAYING HES FUNNY BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY IMUS SUCKS AND ISNT FUNNY BUT THIS IDEA OF RACISM IS FUCKING PLAYED OUT AND RETARDED

On April 11 2007 09:40 Orlandu wrote:
Jokes like those only seem racist if you perceive them to be racist (because of the undeniable fact that there was no direct statement of race or color. I don't care who you are, how smart you are, or how offended you are you simply cannot deny that). If people forgot that there was such a thing as differing races, there wouldn't be any problem to begin with...

On April 11 2007 08:56 Rekrul wrote:


Very true, but when dealing with the lower intelligence races you must understand that they can't comprehend how fucking dumb they are being so you just gotta go with the flow and respect what they don't want to hear. Or else they might steal your shit.

Ever notice asian people never care about racial jokes targetted at them?

On April 11 2007 06:48 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
"blah blah blah I read the dictionary better than you!"

On April 11 2007 10:00 Tadzio00 wrote:


American Heritage Dictionary (additional emphasis mine)
rac·ism (rā'sĭz'əm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

I don't think I'm out of line saying these three words (racism, discrimination, prejudice) are practically synonyms when two of them are used to directly define the third. You caught me on stereotype, though. Its only similar in meaning to prejudice ("2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable"). Your nit-picking skill must be armed with a razor's edge.

Not that this has much to do with Imus' remark... it was just a way to tackle Sadist's claim that "racism isn't racism, its racial!" Which, on the face of it, is so silly I dunno why I'm dedicating so many keystrokes to the defense of my position (that racism is racism). So, I'm going to try and make this the last post I make in this thread on the meaning of words.

On April 11 2007 10:02 TheosEx wrote:
Good job Hot_bid, you picked the definition all the way at the bottom of the page!

On April 11 2007 09:52 Orlandu wrote:
Nappy headed hos can be used in a lot of ways. It's your fault if you think it's directly referring to black people.

On April 11 2007 06:48 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:



How many times has a black, or hispanic, or any non-white comedian made a joke about white people? Dave Chappelle did it all the fucking time (and it was hilarious). Chris Rock makes fun of white people all the time, should I get all up in arms because he said something negative about white people, and made a joke about a stereotype?

And I couldn't really let that whole "look up those words, they're practically synonyms" thing slide.

Stereotype: 1. A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image. 2. A too-simple and therefore distorted image of a group.

Predjudice: a. An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts. b. A preconceived preference or idea. 3. Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.

Racism: 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Discrimination: treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit

They are actually pretty far from being "synonyms." Especially the word stereotype, and discrimination and racism. Prejudice is based on a stereotype. Racism isn't a stereotype, it's clearly not defined as such. Prejudice and racism are close, but prejudice can mean several things, and in the instance of it being hatred racism is a form of prejudice, but they aren't always the same thing. Anyhow, my point is, to the guy telling Sadist to pull out a dictionary, maybe you should pull the dictionary out before you tell other people to. Then again, maybe my comprehension of the English language is at an all time low, and I'm having difficulty understanding what those definitions are saying. (I'm not, they're clearly different, and used in much different ways, it's all about the context in which they are used, just as it is with any word.)

On April 11 2007 09:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
uh isn't "nappy" a term historically used to refer to black people's hair in a derogatory way?

"nappy headed" does not hold any racially exclusive attributes? are you kidding?

On April 11 2007 10:08 Sadist wrote:


nappy can be derogatory or not I guess, It depends on how its used. I dont think nappy is a racial slur...

who knows though?

On April 11 2007 10:07 TheosEx wrote:
What Rekrul said has some truth to it. Anyone can take offense for \\\"racial\\\" remarks but it\\\'s mostly black people who do it, due to all the dumbasses like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson crying wolf everytime something happens. I\\\'m sick and tired of black people blaming other people for \\\"stratifying\\\" and \\\"bring them down.\\\"

Like they\\\'re the only group of people in this whole world that has ever been used as slaves and degraded. I understand that US customs basically make it more likely to happen, but seriously... get over it.

On April 11 2007 10:11 MYM.Testie wrote:
What do you mean Asians don't care?
After Rosie O'Donnel said "Ching chong ching chong" there was a huge retaliation from Asians and gay youtube video after gay youtube video over a joke that clearly wasn't racist.

People are people.

I simply don't understand why people use a word like beaner, gook, etc... when there are simply better words that don't make the person saying it sound like a fucking idiot. People who use those words come off as morons to the general public, even if they are brilliant. They're not funny, they're not really that offensive (though with the right intent or tone etc... they can be), but they are just stupid and not worth saying.

Why appeal to the lowest brow of humour possible anyway? It can be funny when someone who is good at doing it, like Richard Pryor. Joe Schmoe who thinks he's hot shit doing it just comes off as a jackass.

On April 11 2007 10:23 0z wrote:
Sorry for intruding in the middle of a discussion, but could someone please explain what nappy headed hoes means exactly. The best I could come up with is

nappy headed hoes = hoes that have nappy heads.

Now here comes wiktionary to tell me that nappy is either shorthand for napkin or curly, assuming the second option we get

hoes that have curly heads (assuming curly hair).

The last question is about hoe, which according to wiktionary again is some agricultural tool?
I think I am missing something.

On April 11 2007 10:26 Hot_Bid wrote:

im sorry but this double meaning is just ironic and funny and i had to comment on it because

hoe means slut / promiscuous woman

but they way you're interpreting it (innocently and wrongly) is that hes calling them nappy agricultural tools, which is even more offensive because black people were agricultural tools on plantations during slavery

On April 11 2007 10:29 MYM.Testie wrote:
Extra Extra! Old Jackass rambles on the Radio, gets far more attention than the story warrants!

On April 11 2007 10:35 Rekrul wrote:


Extra Extra! 3-time-convicted map hacker rambles on b.net and forums non stop about how he's the best player ever and gets more attention than warranted!

On April 11 2007 10:13 TheosEx wrote:
Sadist, you're points are all over the place. I can understand how Tadzio and Hot_bid think, but even though I agree with you for the most part, you need a more solid argument.

On April 11 2007 10:35 Rekrul wrote:


Extra Extra! 3-time-convicted map hacker rambles on b.net and forums non stop about how he's the best player ever and gets more attention than warranted!

On April 11 2007 10:41 Sadist wrote:
Now if I said all black guys had huge dicks most people probably would think that was straight homo (except mora, whats up mora) or maybe laugh it off or maybe agree.

But if I said all black women have attitudes and nappy short hair, thats suddenly racism (which I can see why it would be labeled as racism especially if I said it seriously, but its in the same category as the above statement)

On April 11 2007 10:07 TheosEx wrote:
What Rekrul said has some truth to it. Anyone can take offense for "racial" remarks but it's mostly black people who do it, due to all the dumbasses like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson crying wolf everytime something happens. I'm sick and tired of black people blaming other people for "stratifying" and "bring them down."

Like they're the only group of people in this whole world that has ever been used as slaves and degraded. I understand that US customs basically make it more likely to happen, but seriously... get over it.

On April 11 2007 10:56 MYM.Testie wrote:


JLIG.

On April 11 2007 11:28 Rekrul wrote:


Maybe you should say that to the black people who are all riled over this.

Slavery was over a hundred years ago.

JLIG Al.

On April 11 2007 11:00 Tadzio00 wrote:
Just laughing internally, god!

?

On April 11 2007 11:07 yubee wrote:
"That's right. Not all stereotypes are negative. But even a positive one like 'All Asians are good at math' is harmful to society."

On April 11 2007 10:06 Tadzio00 wrote:


Well, considering that he was talking about a group of black basketball players, I don't think it's a huge leap in logic to think Imus was directly referring to black people... since he was.

On April 11 2007 11:28 Rekrul wrote:


Maybe you should say that to the black people who are all riled over this.

Slavery was over a hundred years ago.

JLIG Al.

On April 11 2007 09:57 Hot_Bid wrote:
Dictionary.com:

Online Etymology Dictionary - Cite This Source
nappy (adj.)
"downy," 1499, from nap (n.). Meaning "fuzzy, kinky," used in colloquial or derogatory ref. to the hair of black people, is from 1950.

that's not "racially exclusive" enough for you?

Slavery was over a hundred years ago, but white people are still living the high life on the backs of slaves, and black people are still enduring the effects of being bred for generations to fear reading, to fear education, to be totally subordinate and isolated and to think of themselves as animals. If you think that black people today are in overwhelmingly worse circumstances than white people are just because they are stupid or lazy or something, you have no idea what you're talking about and should go back to school. Aside from the lasting social, educational and economic effects of slavery, complicit racism is still being perpetrated en masse in every corner of the united states. It's still many times harder to get a job with the name Yolanda than it is with the name Beth, and black people are still expected to act certain ways and do certain things, and still have to deal with things white people never even have to think about. If you don't understand this, you obviously either have no substantial relationships with black people or your black friends are scared to talk to you about this. If you think that slavery ending over 100 years ago means that racism is irrelevant, you are incredibly ignorant.

On April 11 2007 12:08 bine wrote:
If you think that calling them nappy-headed wasn't a reference to their ethnicity you're just unfamiliar with the word's common usage, the context in which he said it, and the racial makeup of the basketball team.

There is racism in this world, but a lot of it is created by the hyper-senesitive defense mechanisms people use, which interestingly enough are SUPPOSED to lower racism but instead simply make it worse.

On April 11 2007 12:10 [angst]chraej wrote:
i wouldnt consider nappy to be a racial term, esp not in this day and age.

so slave owneres refered to their slaves as nappy b/c of their hair, why should that make the word taboo?



man, dont be stupid. That is totally ridiculous, black people are expected to act like everyone else who has come to the United States, get off your high horse.


no one alive today is at fault for what happened to the slaves so no one should have to put up with this crap they dish out, i feel sorry for those who lived through slavery, not those who blindy insist they are still enslaved, moping around waiting for reperation, GET A JOB.

On April 11 2007 12:19 [angst]chraej wrote:
i agree, what is the point in carrying on the racial use of the word?

it was a word before the time of slavery and was unfortunately used in an offensive way,

just because i now know that doesnt mean im giong to avoid the word, that is idiocy.

On April 11 2007 12:17 Orlandu wrote:
That's interesting.

I guess from now on when my black friends are describing certain white girls as having nappy hair, and that they're hos, I should just call them idiots for being so blind as to see that they aren't black.

Believe me, I recognize that your impulse to continue living off of other people's suffering and maintain relative wealth by getting jobs over more qualified black people is really virtuous, but something about it just doesn't feel right. I guess I'm naive, and don't understand how gritty your life is. On blindness: you betray your foolishness and lack of education when you say things like you are.

On April 11 2007 12:23 Orlandu wrote:
And that proves your point how?

On April 11 2007 12:25 {88}iNcontroL wrote:


My point is it isnt the victims fucking fault they are being generalized by racial remarks. You saying "they should just learn to not perceive it that way" is so circular and so completely not the important issue it is slightly angering. How about, you preach the people who use this rhetoric work on understanding the offensive nature of said words and even become more sensitive to their peers? Why is it the victim or the subjugated that have to take the initiative? Why is it those that are in the minority that should fucking convert their comfort and dignity to FIT OUR racial insecurity?

On April 11 2007 12:26 Orlandu wrote:
Of course you don't see anything wrong with your logic.

People rarely can see an error in their own reasoning. No matter what I say, you'll think I'm an idiot, and I'll still think you're an idiot. I'm not trying to convince you otherwise.

I'm simply pointing out something you seem to be completely forgetting and misinterpreting.

On April 11 2007 12:29 {88}iNcontroL wrote:


I never said I see "nothing wrong with my logic" perhaps you are confused by my sarcastic remark in regard to YOUR logic. Reread, try again and respond.

On April 11 2007 12:25 [angst]chraej wrote:
shoot bine! your so right, i was so blinded by the fact that all blacks in the USA have been TOTALLY and irriversably short handed by slavery and they will all need the help of the white man to get back on their feet.



and what about that retarded system known as "affirmative action"

and WTF, no one is living as a slave to support anyone in the United States

WHERE are black people suffering as a result of my "living off" the benefits i've reaped from them?

On April 11 2007 12:28 Orlandu wrote:


Who is insecure here?

You're completely misunderstanding my entire point. I'm not saying they should just not perceive it that way. That's a completely different issue. I'm saying perception is the ROOT of this problem. And, if it ever hopes to get solved, that issue of perception needs to be addressed rather than ignored as many seem to want to do.

I watch what I say, because I know how it offends people. But that doesn't mean I limit myself to that one perception.

On April 11 2007 12:30 Orlandu wrote:


I know what you meant. And I also know why you wrote what you did. Hence, my reply. If you don't understand it, that doesn't mean I'm the one misreading anything.

On April 11 2007 12:30 bine wrote:


books books books books books

On April 11 2007 12:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote:


No i didnt misunderstand at all. "Perception" as the "root" of the problem is exactly what i am talking about. You are specifically speaking on the "perception" of the ones receiving the racial remarks. Not the "perception" of those giving the racial remarks. THAT is the crux of my point sir. I am beginning to see shreads of a lack of comprehension on your behalf, please try and actually refute my points rather than generalize it and massacre the points while shoving your own agenda. I clearly am speaking on your specification of "perception" I speak directly to that and state it is NOT the main issue. You ignore this and get confused..

On April 11 2007 12:38 Orlandu wrote:


If you're going to assume things and make points about me, at least get them right. Because as it is, YOU are the one ignoring things and getting confused and are attempting to discredit me rather than support your own points.

I'll make this clear: I'm speaking in very general terms about perception. Very general. Not specific. Not just towards those receiving those remarks, not just towards those making remarks. Everyone. That is MY main issue, maybe not yours. But it is mine, and that is where all of my statements come from. I'm sorry if you're trying to addressing something else. I'm not going to address another issue at this time, no matter what you say or do.

I'm going to stop spamming this thread and resign to letting you think I'm an idiot, and I'll do the same. I can live with that.

On April 11 2007 13:13 [angst]chraej wrote:
are you saying that Free Speech, a value which the USA claims to hold so dear, is LIMITED to certain sects??

On April 11 2007 11:45 MYM.Testie wrote:


...? You're weird.

On April 11 2007 11:08 GrandInquisitor wrote:


lollll

What pisses me off so much is the arrogant cynicalism in this topic. People like to say things like - "Person X SHOULDN'T take it so seriously, they should just roll with the punches! Not that I'm black or anything, but I'm sure I totally understand what it's like to be them!"

Honestly, now. If they're offended, they're offended, and that's the end of the story. You think they shouldn't care, but you shouldn't presume to know more about what they should and shouldn't be offended by, considering they are also rational adult human beings. It's not your place, and it's incredibly arrogant to pretend to know how they "should" be thinking.

On April 11 2007 12:55 GrandInquisitor wrote:
This topic is so incredibly depressing, and especially those people who insist on telling others what they should or should not be offended by.

Racism is a endemic stratifying societal problem in the United States, and the sooner we wake up to the fact that it hasn't been miraculously cured the better off we all are.

On April 11 2007 13:49 TheosEx wrote:


Wow. You're quite the smart one guy. I guess you haven't really read any of my previous post. Anyways, I guess I'll go back to my arrogant ways now.

On April 11 2007 14:37 Rekrul wrote:
If you hate all black girls but like black guys but you like white girls and white guys are you a racist or a sexist or both?

Or do you just hate loud skreeky voices?

On April 11 2007 15:16 QuietIdiot wrote:
Yeah fuck those Korean Americans. Bunch of faggot ass tools.


...

On April 11 2007 15:29 Rekrul wrote:


I know a Korean who hates the living hell out of every single Korean American that lives in Korea.

Is he a racist?

LOL

On April 11 2007 15:47 QuietIdiot wrote:

I know an ex-progamer who tries to hide his failure as an easy going gambler and increasingly getting fatter and lazier. Is he a self-hating racist short-tempered American fitting that common stereotype?

-_-;

On April 11 2007 12:02 bine wrote:


Slavery was over a hundred years ago, but white people are still living the high life on the backs of slaves, and black people are still enduring the effects of being bred for generations to fear reading, to fear education, to be totally subordinate and isolated and to think of themselves as animals. If you think that black people today are in overwhelmingly worse circumstances than white people are just because they are stupid or lazy or something, you have no idea what you're talking about and should go back to school. Aside from the lasting social, educational and economic effects of slavery, complicit racism is still being perpetrated en masse in every corner of the united states. It's still many times harder to get a job with the name Yolanda than it is with the name Beth, and black people are still expected to act certain ways and do certain things, and still have to deal with things white people never even have to think about. If you don't understand this, you obviously either have no substantial relationships with black people or your black friends are scared to talk to you about this. If you think that slavery ending over 100 years ago means that racism is irrelevant, you are incredibly ignorant.

On April 11 2007 22:04 bErAtEd- wrote:
Odd that this happens to still be lingering around as I myself would like to make a couple comments on racism.

First off, bine it is good to see you are thinking for yourself and not following the thoughts of most equality advocates. I cannot tell you how many times I heard those same words in my sociology class. I didn't buy it then and I surely do not buy it now from you.

I truly believe that most of this is complete bullshit. First off we aren't the ones who started slavery, we are simply the ones who capitalized on it. So please stop your ranting. Do you see Asian people complaining relentlessly because they worked for white people too? I myself haven't heard of it. In fact Asian races are usually considered to be the most intelligent and hard working. How were they able to overcome this but not black people.

Quite frankly if people of color are tired of being stereotyped, then I beg of them to stop acting like the stereotype. I do not wish for anyone to come out of my post being like this stupid American is truly a racist. I assure you that I am not racist, as I hate everyone equally (just a joke...) Regardless though I ask you to ponder this.

At my university there is banquet for the people of color who are graduating. People of color get in free, but everyone else must pay $13.50 to attend. The monetary cost here is not an issue but simply the fact that we are being treated unequally. If whites were to hold a white only banquet and charge people of color even $2.00 to enter I can assure you that there would be many protests. I do not see how people can preach for diversity and acceptance and then turn around and do the same thing they fight against.

On April 11 2007 16:09 Rekrul wrote:
I'd never ban you for sure.

btw - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

this page is great!

White N*gger?

Spaghetti N*gger? LOOOOOOOOL WTF

Kike or kyke
(U.S.) a Jew. From kikel, Yiddish for "circle". Immigrant Jews signed legal documents with an "O" (similar to an "X").[84]

On April 11 2007 22:04 bErAtEd- wrote:
Odd that this happens to still be lingering around as I myself would like to make a couple comments on racism.

First off, bine it is good to see you are thinking for yourself and not following the thoughts of most equality advocates. I cannot tell you how many times I heard those same words in my sociology class. I didn't buy it then and I surely do not buy it now from you.

I truly believe that most of this is complete bullshit. First off we aren't the ones who started slavery, we are simply the ones who capitalized on it. So please stop your ranting. Do you see Asian people complaining relentlessly because they worked for white people too? I myself haven't heard of it. In fact Asian races are usually considered to be the most intelligent and hard working. How were they able to overcome this but not black people.

Quite frankly if people of color are tired of being stereotyped, then I beg of them to stop acting like the stereotype. I do not wish for anyone to come out of my post being like this stupid American is truly a racist. I assure you that I am not racist, as I hate everyone equally (just a joke...) Regardless though I ask you to ponder this.

On April 11 2007 16:56 bine wrote:
Please don't say the N word.

On April 11 2007 22:04 bErAtEd- wrote:
Odd that this happens to still be lingering around as I myself would like to make a couple comments on racism.

First off, bine it is good to see you are thinking for yourself and not following the thoughts of most equality advocates. I cannot tell you how many times I heard those same words in my sociology class. I didn't buy it then and I surely do not buy it now from you.

I truly believe that most of this is complete bullshit. First off we aren't the ones who started slavery, we are simply the ones who capitalized on it. So please stop your ranting. Do you see Asian people complaining relentlessly because they worked for white people too? I myself haven't heard of it. In fact Asian races are usually considered to be the most intelligent and hard working. How were they able to overcome this but not black people.

Quite frankly if people of color are tired of being stereotyped, then I beg of them to stop acting like the stereotype. I do not wish for anyone to come out of my post being like this stupid American is truly a racist. I assure you that I am not racist, as I hate everyone equally (just a joke...) Regardless though I ask you to ponder this.

At my university there is banquet for the people of color who are graduating. People of color get in free, but everyone else must pay $13.50 to attend. The monetary cost here is not an issue but simply the fact that we are being treated unequally. If whites were to hold a white only banquet and charge people of color even $2.00 to enter I can assure you that there would be many protests. I do not see how people can preach for diversity and acceptance and then turn around and do the same thing they fight against.