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On April 11 2007 09:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
uh isn't "nappy" a term historically used to refer to black people's hair in a derogatory way?
"nappy headed" does not hold any racially exclusive attributes? are you kidding?
nappy can be derogatory or not I guess, It depends on how its used. I dont think nappy is a racial slur...
who knows though?
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Braavos36402 Posts
i don't see how sharpton and jackson and your opinions on the black communitys' "oversensitivity" about slavery in general has to do with imus' comments. the rutgers players clearly aren't being oversensitive are they? they should just laugh along? even imus agrees he crossed the line and he's meeting with them in person to fully apologize.
you're saying, if you made these comments, you'd go to the rutgers womens basketball team and be like "im sick of you black people crying wolf. slavery--get over it!"? if not, i don't see how your flaming sharpton or jackson has anything to do with it.
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What do you mean Asians don't care?
After Rosie O'Donnel said "Ching chong ching chong" there was a huge retaliation from Asians and gay youtube video after gay youtube video over a joke that clearly wasn't racist.
People are people.
I simply don't understand why people use a word like beaner, gook, etc... when there are simply better words that don't make the person saying it sound like a fucking idiot. People who use those words come off as morons to the general public, even if they are brilliant. They're not funny, they're not really that offensive (though with the right intent or tone etc... they can be), but they are just stupid and not worth saying.
Why appeal to the lowest brow of humour possible anyway? It can be funny when someone who is good at doing it, like Richard Pryor. Joe Schmoe who thinks he's hot shit doing it just comes off as a jackass.
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Braavos36402 Posts
On April 11 2007 10:08 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2007 09:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
uh isn't "nappy" a term historically used to refer to black people's hair in a derogatory way?
"nappy headed" does not hold any racially exclusive attributes? are you kidding? nappy can be derogatory or not I guess, It depends on how its used. I dont think nappy is a racial slur... who knows though?
ok imus used it to describe a group of black womens' basketball players. there's no "depends" here.
edit: and testie don't get me started on that ching chong joke, that was 100% racist.
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On April 11 2007 10:07 TheosEx wrote:
What Rekrul said has some truth to it. Anyone can take offense for \\\"racial\\\" remarks but it\\\'s mostly black people who do it, due to all the dumbasses like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson crying wolf everytime something happens. I\\\'m sick and tired of black people blaming other people for \\\"stratifying\\\" and \\\"bring them down.\\\"
Like they\\\'re the only group of people in this whole world that has ever been used as slaves and degraded. I understand that US customs basically make it more likely to happen, but seriously... get over it.
You make it really hard to defend Imus in this thread. Holy shit.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On April 11 2007 10:11 MYM.Testie wrote:
What do you mean Asians don't care?
After Rosie O'Donnel said "Ching chong ching chong" there was a huge retaliation from Asians and gay youtube video after gay youtube video over a joke that clearly wasn't racist.
People are people.
I simply don't understand why people use a word like beaner, gook, etc... when there are simply better words that don't make the person saying it sound like a fucking idiot. People who use those words come off as morons to the general public, even if they are brilliant. They're not funny, they're not really that offensive (though with the right intent or tone etc... they can be), but they are just stupid and not worth saying.
Why appeal to the lowest brow of humour possible anyway? It can be funny when someone who is good at doing it, like Richard Pryor. Joe Schmoe who thinks he's hot shit doing it just comes off as a jackass.
lmao i was waiting for this
<3
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Sadist, you're points are all over the place. I can understand how Tadzio and Hot_bid think, but even though I agree with you for the most part, you need a more solid argument.
Anyways, I'm not denying that it was a racial remark. The original point was should he get fired or not? Why should he when there are many more people saying worse things? Atleast he had the balls to apologize for it. And even if he didn't, people can simply change the radio station and stop listening, or just get over it.
For example, who here doesn't like the TV show Friends? There was one comment on the episodes where I think Phoebe was arguing with Chandler about something. Chandler then said something about "made by some Filippino kids for 12 cents an hour" or something along those lines. A part of me also wanted to take that as insulting, but I got over it. It is a comedy show afterall, and given in context, it was funny.
If other people have to just "get over it" why can't everyone else?
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okay theos, lets say you were on a basketball team that was majority filipino, and there was a video of you guys playing basketball, and some radio show host says "hey, look at those sweatshop 12c per hour slanty eyed workers"
do you see the difference between that and a generalized "friends" joke that might be in poor taste but is clearly much easier to "get over"?
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Rosie O'donnel is a dumbass anyways.
And InControl, I'm not trying to defend Imus. I'm defending the idea. I personally don't care who Imus is even though he seems like a nice person. It's just a side point that he apologized and is trying to make ammends for it. All I'm saying is, if they want to talk about whats fair and unfair, they need to show him (and everyone else) the same kind of respect.
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Honestly Hot_Bid, I got insulted for about 1 second.
I know that this runs along the lines of red herring logical fallacy, but I understand you're in NYC Hot_Bid, so this topic is going to be red hot. I'm from NYC also, but that's exactly it. I love NYC, but if there's one thing that I don't like about NYC is all the racial bandwagons there. It's all about people trying to milk shit as much as they can.
Like how Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the likes think that the only way to resolve this problem is to fire Imus and hire more black people to work for NBC.
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Sorry for intruding in the middle of a discussion, but could someone please explain what nappy headed hoes means exactly. The best I could come up with is
nappy headed hoes = hoes that have nappy heads.
Now here comes wiktionary to tell me that nappy is either shorthand for napkin or curly, assuming the second option we get
hoes that have curly heads (assuming curly hair).
The last question is about hoe, which according to wiktionary again is some agricultural tool?
I think I am missing something.
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Braavos36402 Posts
so what i don't understand is if you agree that imus' statement (which was addressing a very real group of people, it wasnt just a general statement up for interpretation) was racist, what is the point of bringing up all this other stuff you disagree with like the way sharpton or jackson conduct themselves, or the racial polarization in new york city... sharpton/jackson is not the focus.
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"ho" is a derogatory term for "woman." Similar to "wench" "skank" "slut" "whore" "bitch" etc. "Ho" is most closely related to meaning with "whore", and I think it's a slang term for "whore."
darn... already I'm talking about the meaning of words again. Well, at least I'm being helpful with it.
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Speaking of racism...
To think whites and blacks thought all asians looked the same.
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Braavos36402 Posts
On April 11 2007 10:23 0z wrote:
Sorry for intruding in the middle of a discussion, but could someone please explain what nappy headed hoes means exactly. The best I could come up with is
nappy headed hoes = hoes that have nappy heads.
Now here comes wiktionary to tell me that nappy is either shorthand for napkin or curly, assuming the second option we get
hoes that have curly heads (assuming curly hair).
The last question is about hoe, which according to wiktionary again is some agricultural tool?
I think I am missing something.
im sorry but this double meaning is just ironic and funny and i had to comment on it because
hoe means slut / promiscuous woman
but they way you're interpreting it (innocently and wrongly) is that hes calling them nappy agricultural tools, which is even more offensive because black people were agricultural tools on plantations during slavery
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Extra Extra! Old Jackass rambles on the Radio, gets far more attention than the story warrants!
And rofl at hot_bid. Agricultural reference. Art.
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On April 11 2007 10:26 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2007 10:23 0z wrote:
Sorry for intruding in the middle of a discussion, but could someone please explain what nappy headed hoes means exactly. The best I could come up with is
nappy headed hoes = hoes that have nappy heads.
Now here comes wiktionary to tell me that nappy is either shorthand for napkin or curly, assuming the second option we get
hoes that have curly heads (assuming curly hair).
The last question is about hoe, which according to wiktionary again is some agricultural tool?
I think I am missing something. im sorry but this double meaning is just ironic and funny and i had to comment on it because hoe means slut / promiscuous woman but they way you're interpreting it (innocently and wrongly) is that hes calling them nappy agricultural tools, which is even more offensive because black people were agricultural tools on plantations during slavery
oh, i see now 
thanks for the clarification
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On April 11 2007 10:29 MYM.Testie wrote:
Extra Extra! Old Jackass rambles on the Radio, gets far more attention than the story warrants!
Extra Extra! 3-time-convicted map hacker rambles on b.net and forums non stop about how he's the best player ever and gets more attention than warranted!
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On April 11 2007 10:35 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2007 10:29 MYM.Testie wrote:
Extra Extra! Old Jackass rambles on the Radio, gets far more attention than the story warrants!
Extra Extra! 3-time-convicted map hacker rambles on b.net and forums non stop about how he's the best player ever and gets more attention than warranted!
i concur
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That guy should be fired for the lameness of his jokes if nothing else...
But seriously, it makes me laugh the people who are trying to say this is the same as Dave Chapelle calling other black people 'niggers'... Come on, can't you think of one important difference between this guy and Dave Chapelle?
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