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Dendra
Profile Joined July 2006
Croatia801 Posts
January 11 2007 06:18 GMT
#61
once u change friendship for money you have a hard time,all your clanmates are simply not acting the same way in your presence anymore, they act like they don't care but they do,after a while you become sad u've chosen money over friends,thinking how stupid u were and then you realise you can keep the old friends and try to achieve some higher goals like becoming a progamer-by that time your old friends really do forgive you and really aren't hurt anymore to that point that it changes the way they talk to you.
Believing isnt seeing.Seeing is believing,but may not be reality.
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
January 11 2007 06:28 GMT
#62
On January 11 2007 14:18 CoralReefer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2007 13:21 Ch0b0Man wrote:
Twisted, mYm spends millions a year on their teams and you were afraid that they would not fulfil the ones they promised ToT then? I mean come on they have existed since 2001 and they have superstars in all games man, they would never stay all these year with them there unless they actually got paid.


millions of what? yen?


;D
If anyone orders any merlot Im leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking merlot.
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
January 11 2007 06:34 GMT
#63
On January 11 2007 15:28 PuertoRican wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2007 14:18 CoralReefer wrote:
On January 11 2007 13:21 Ch0b0Man wrote:
Twisted, mYm spends millions a year on their teams and you were afraid that they would not fulfil the ones they promised ToT then? I mean come on they have existed since 2001 and they have superstars in all games man, they would never stay all these year with them there unless they actually got paid.


millions of what? yen?


;D


re ;D lol.
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
January 11 2007 06:53 GMT
#64
On January 11 2007 15:10 TT1 wrote:
i like mym but i hope the clan dies


Haha, it would not its a old and very stable clan, only the BW team might be not forever
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 11 2007 06:59 GMT
#65
dunno their war3 squad has had pretty short turnaround times since 2004, as far as I remember.
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 11 2007 07:03 GMT
#66
I think this is a good change, especially for Testie.

Mondragon and Testie are good friends, and I'm positive Testie must have discussed this at length with him and switched clans only with his support.

We all know Testie is intent on going to Korea, and this move will hopefully help him achieve that goal, so good luck to him.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-11 09:45:18
January 11 2007 07:07 GMT
#67
On January 11 2007 15:18 Dendra wrote:
once u change friendship for money you have a hard time,all your clanmates are simply not acting the same way in your presence anymore, they act like they don't care but they do,after a while you become sad u've chosen money over friends,thinking how stupid u were and then you realise you can keep the old friends and try to achieve some higher goals like becoming a progamer-by that time your old friends really do forgive you and really aren't hurt anymore to that point that it changes the way they talk to you.

it is lame to give up friends for money but if you want to make what you do into something slightly more than a hobby sometimes you have to learn to accept some unfortuneate aspects of professionalism. anyone who changes their tone talking to their old friend because they joined a different starcraft clan for the money is probably overdoing it a little and it wouldn't be entirely the fault of the one who chose to change clans. for some it is better to have more of a day job and keep their social values and all, and at least sometimes it really is selling out otherwise, but not always.
edit: trying to say i support testie and sen because it's not selling out in this case, and giving up one's friends is unecessary because they don't have to be dicks and see you differently, and might not.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
January 11 2007 07:15 GMT
#68
Hey, congratulations to testie on going somewhere! Hope it'll turn out good for you
ModeratorFather of bunnies
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 11 2007 07:21 GMT
#69
to go to korea do you have to go through mYm first or sometihng ? lol
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
January 11 2007 07:25 GMT
#70
gl to you guys
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 11 2007 07:43 GMT
#71
how is leaving the clan giving up friends? you dont need to be in a team with someone to be friends with them.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
January 11 2007 08:09 GMT
#72
This is what I see in this for ToT). Not only did ToT) lose 2 good 1v1ers, they lost their #1 2v2 team for the last 2 years, Mondragon and Testie. So instead of the usual instant 3-0 from sen/testie/mondragontestie that usually happens, itll be closer cws now!
HitEmUp
Shiva_Chandra
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Denmark341 Posts
January 11 2007 08:24 GMT
#73
whatever makes them happy, I guess testie will have lots of oppertunies to impress his way to korea by continuously losing to people like kaaz and beeswax!
Avi @^_^@
AstraBoy
Profile Joined August 2006
Peru363 Posts
January 11 2007 08:30 GMT
#74
lmao xd
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8896 Posts
January 11 2007 08:44 GMT
#75
On January 11 2007 15:34 Skew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2007 15:28 PuertoRican wrote:
On January 11 2007 14:18 CoralReefer wrote:
On January 11 2007 13:21 Ch0b0Man wrote:
Twisted, mYm spends millions a year on their teams and you were afraid that they would not fulfil the ones they promised ToT then? I mean come on they have existed since 2001 and they have superstars in all games man, they would never stay all these year with them there unless they actually got paid.


millions of what? yen?


;D


re ;D lol.


triple ;D
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
January 11 2007 08:48 GMT
#76
On January 11 2007 17:09 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
This is what I see in this for ToT). Not only did ToT) lose 2 good 1v1ers, they lost their #1 2v2 team for the last 2 years, Mondragon and Testie. So instead of the usual instant 3-0 from sen/testie/mondragontestie that usually happens, itll be closer cws now!


dunno if lazer plays anymore but mondi 2v2ed fine with him before and they were just about as good as testie and him if not better (maybe testie and mondi were better only because their relative skill increased during the time they played together)
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Shiva_Chandra
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Denmark341 Posts
January 11 2007 09:02 GMT
#77
ToT has LJT, and in bwcl you can use the same 2v2 player twice - LJT is probably one of the best 2v2 players in the world currently.
Avi @^_^@
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
January 11 2007 09:06 GMT
#78
I haven't heard Lazer's name mentioned in at least a year. I really doubt he has been active recently. ;;

And in any case, all of Testie, Sen and Mondragon are good 2v2 players, so a lot of 2v2 potential was lost. :o
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 11 2007 09:23 GMT
#79
xiaozi/ljt had been their 2nd 2v2 recently i think
mondi is a good enough 2v2 player he can pick another partner on the team and be just fine im sure.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Dendra
Profile Joined July 2006
Croatia801 Posts
January 11 2007 09:57 GMT
#80
On January 11 2007 16:43 IdrA wrote:
how is leaving the clan giving up friends? you dont need to be in a team with someone to be friends with them.

when u'r in team with someone for a long time,especially ppl u know in real life they tend to say it's ok,they support u,they understand it,but you can feel in the way they talk u'r no longer "part of the team",it's not the same,you don't share their troubles any more,u don't play cws with them any more,etc. while they might say it's ok it will probably take some time for them to really feel that way,not just say it.
Believing isnt seeing.Seeing is believing,but may not be reality.
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