• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:13
CET 21:13
KST 05:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview11Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)38
StarCraft 2
General
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 KSL Week 85 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? BW General Discussion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Let's Get Creative–Video Gam…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1942 users

EffOrt returns to Brood War - Page 5

Forum Index > Closed
226 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 Next All
Please stop discussing BW vs. SC2. Discussions after page 10 will be actioned.
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
January 04 2015 15:10 GMT
#81
Great News, lots a viewers!
Welcome back eff0rt
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
January 04 2015 15:20 GMT
#82
amazing
Administrator
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 04 2015 15:31 GMT
#83
Jaedong and Flash next.
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
January 04 2015 15:46 GMT
#84
While Effort wasn't a Jaedong level player (no one was I guess, at least Z players), I'm happy more pros are coming back home :D, Flash and Jaedong should dump that dreadful game and come back as well. BW revival incoming.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
January 04 2015 15:47 GMT
#85
On January 05 2015 00:20 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
amazing


true. speechless. ...nothing to add. just wow.
Broodwar for life!
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
January 04 2015 15:50 GMT
#86
<3 EffOrt!!!!!
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
January 04 2015 15:50 GMT
#87
Wasn't he up for military service? I thought that was why he retired from sc2 in the first place.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
January 04 2015 16:24 GMT
#88
Wow that's awesome!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
CanadianSC
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada53 Posts
January 04 2015 16:34 GMT
#89
sc2 so bad that BW will rise again
Zerg is a hard race. -DRG
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 16:56:04
January 04 2015 16:40 GMT
#90
yeah that sure is a slap in the face of blizzard, actually one of the many slaps, and when the homeland of esports slaps you in the face like that it means you made big shit.
il say it like that, starcraft 2 is so shitty that it cant even compete with a "dead" game. Someone may wonder why? il tell u, because its Fakecraft.

I cant stop asking why Blizzard bitches had to kill the precious BW scene when it was obvious they will replace it with inferrior version of the game and much inferrior scene. They mustve been very dumb to think korea is that stupid not to see the difference.

User was warned for this post
Luv ya BroodWar!
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
January 04 2015 16:43 GMT
#91
everything is proceeding as I have forseen
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
broodwar2.0
Profile Joined October 2013
Niue229 Posts
January 04 2015 17:28 GMT
#92
heartwarming to have effort streaming broodwar 1 osl winner that comes back the the game he loves!

he signed for SSL11 great stuff but i thought i did read somewhere he is close to renrolling to the militairy?
do you feel unfulfilled , unhappy and unsuccessful in real-life? here is your chance become a TL-Forum admin. so you can be a online keyboard-warrior, pretending to be a hotshot
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
January 04 2015 17:35 GMT
#93
All the afreeca streamers are "close" to going to the military. Except the ones who already went of course (eg piano was ace, um did mind do his service?)

But a lot keep delaying or even have their date pushed back. Iirc Mini or someone stated that their date was pushed back (and not by his own action of delaying)

Though of course, I have no idea of how the system works in south korea
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 18:00:54
January 04 2015 17:55 GMT
#94
On January 04 2015 18:13 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
Perfect expample, that Blizzard did terrible job with StarCraft 2! :E but, glad this guy is still around !

A handful of guys who couldn't made a successful transition now proves that new game is terrible?

Can't we get along? Most of us prefer one or the other, but does it follow that the one we don't prefer over the other is terrible?
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
January 04 2015 17:56 GMT
#95
Husky's tribute:

You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
January 04 2015 17:58 GMT
#96
Vods

http://www.twitch.tv/snipealot4/b/607006312
PharaphobiaSC2
Profile Joined November 2014
Czech Republic85 Posts
January 04 2015 18:10 GMT
#97
On January 05 2015 02:55 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 18:13 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
Perfect expample, that Blizzard did terrible job with StarCraft 2! :E but, glad this guy is still around !

A handful of guys who couldn't made a successful transition now proves that new game is terrible?

Can't we get along? Most of us prefer one or the other, but does it follow that the one we don't prefer over the other is terrible?


It's not like that it's becayse SC2 could be completly different game, but when Blizzard completly ignores community (f.e making weird clueless balance patches, making new maps 2 days before new mappool should be released, constantly lying to all the communies on reddit/twiiter etc.) it's what piss most ppl off . Next is that StarCraft development offices are empty for sure since there are still annoying bugs which could be easly fixed. I just dont get it.. they had ton of feedback from BW game made in 1998 and their provided amateurish engine full of bugs which "cannot be fixed because of engine itself". Well than shut down SC2 and make BW remake compatible for Windows 7/8 etc and everyone should be happy

At the end Im just jealous that some peeps have so much effort to make content for sc2 and alot of them are broke or done know because ppl just loosing interest..
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 18:27:35
January 04 2015 18:27 GMT
#98
Guys, please let's refocus on the purpose of the thread. No need for BW vs SCII arguments here. Personally, glad to see Effort back. While we have a strong lineup of Zerg players atm, I think Effort would add greatly to that lineup. He also seems to play pretty well and is still pretty fast for someone who hasn't played much BW.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
broodwar2.0
Profile Joined October 2013
Niue229 Posts
January 04 2015 18:28 GMT
#99
On January 05 2015 02:55 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 18:13 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
Perfect expample, that Blizzard did terrible job with StarCraft 2! :E but, glad this guy is still around !

A handful of guys who couldn't made a successful transition now proves that new game is terrible?

Can't we get along? Most of us prefer one or the other, but does it follow that the one we don't prefer over the other is terrible?


cant tell if trolling or rly stupid T_T

to answer youre question : no we cant get along
why ?: obvious reasons

why well... first off its not really a thing of preference since there is none to choice from blizzard killed broodwar pro scene as you might know thus the ex-bw pros were forced playing a game with a low skill ceiling game compared to the old one in witch their skill level didn shine true so for obvious reasons its not much fun its something almost all retired ex-bw pro's have stated when they retire the game simply doesnt offer interesting challenging gameplay that one would enjoy playing /practicing
10H aday (even blizzard acknowledged they need to increase more challenging gameplay on highest levels of play)

so ofcourse hardcore fans who followed their heros from day 1 like Fantasy/Jeadong/Flash see them perform so poorly because the skill ceiling is to low for them. Fans are really angry when you see these incredibly talanted players of the modern bw area (last 5 years) suddenly become jobless its wasted talent, this is one of the reasons why bw is rising again and SSL and KSL are so populair brood war was incredibly populair e-sport nr1 and it was not its time to be killed-off

User was temp banned for this post.
do you feel unfulfilled , unhappy and unsuccessful in real-life? here is your chance become a TL-Forum admin. so you can be a online keyboard-warrior, pretending to be a hotshot
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 19:16:46
January 04 2015 19:09 GMT
#100
On January 05 2015 02:58 9heart wrote:
Vods

http://www.twitch.tv/snipealot4/b/607006312

tytyty! I wish I knew Korean to understand EffOrt's comments of some of his best games in past.

BW is forever, SC2 is whatever.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
12:00
Day 3
ShoWTimE vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
TaKeTV4924
ComeBackTV 2376
IndyStarCraft 681
TaKeSeN 573
3DClanTV 126
CosmosSc2 118
Rex97
EnkiAlexander 70
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 681
CosmosSc2 118
Rex 97
ProTech18
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2324
Mini 416
Shuttle 408
EffOrt 320
firebathero 103
ggaemo 98
NaDa 8
Stormgate
BeoMulf94
Dota 2
Gorgc8908
Counter-Strike
fl0m4159
pashabiceps1219
byalli436
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King79
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor650
Liquid`Hasu496
Trikslyr70
MindelVK15
Other Games
FrodaN5515
Grubby2657
Liquid`RaSZi2471
B2W.Neo767
Mlord600
crisheroes386
ToD164
QueenE114
ArmadaUGS14
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1647
gamesdonequick789
BasetradeTV11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 68
• Reevou 9
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 22
• HerbMon 19
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV568
League of Legends
• Jankos3364
• imaqtpie2639
• TFBlade793
Other Games
• Shiphtur245
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 48m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Wardi Open
1d 15h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-31
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.